Obama has declared his absolute requirement to dissolve kill off the the red Indians

derry

Obama has declared his absolute requirement to dissolve kill off the last of the red indians
The link is from the Republic of Lakatoh the independent republic the lakatoh red indians have set up in the USA.
As the red indians keep dragging up the genoside of the Indians some 14 million of them and the continued genocide of the red indians it is USA policy to finish of all the red Indians so that they can shut thier mouths

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/?p=1245

One of my favorite sites hopefully they will surrvive the Obama bliztz dissolve effect he states he will implement on the last of the red Indians to survive the final solution




Derry

Nodin

Yer man Russell Means is a bit of a header, tbh....

derry

derry wrote: »

Obama has declared his absolute requirement to dissolve kill off the last of the red indians
The link is from the Republic of Lakatoh the independent republic the lakatoh red indians have set up in the USA.
As the red indians keep dragging up the genoside of the Indians some 14 million of them and the continued genocide of the red indians it is USA policy to finish of all the red Indians so that they can shut thier mouths

http://www.republicoflakotah.com/?p=1245

One of my favorite sites hopefully they will surrvive the Obama bliztz dissolve effect he states he will implement on the last of the red Indians to survive the final solution




Derry

So Obama wants to kill off a racial minority.Sure.:rolleyes:

derry

Nodin wrote: »

Yer man Russell Means is a bit of a header, tbh....

Well I soppose if your one of the last of the Mohikans or Lakatoh people of 14 million to survive the genoside and you look the TV and see the President declare he gonna finish the job off properly so that there are no more red indians left then he kinda has a reason to be a bit of header

Seeing as us irish surived the British cull from 10 milllion down to 4 million with 2,000,000 starved to death we should immeadiatly send our ambassador to Republic of Lakatoh to make a new emmbassy there and shut down our USA Embassy so as not to be supporting the Obama regime

the featured vidio on the side oral wisdom is brill

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fb1_1233635476



Derry

Black Swan

Historically, the treatment by the American government of the Native American peoples was a sad tale indeed. And there was some evidence suggesting that during the western expansion days hundreds of years past there may have been some truth to the claims of genocide through the use of diseased blankets, or attempts at forced assimilation (when Native children were taken from their parents and placed in boarding schools). Forced relocations onto greatly reduced land area reservations did occur, and many of such reservations exist today. There was also a history of White settler encroachment on reservations that were guaranteed by treaty, but voided when gold was discovered (e.g., Black Hills of South Dakota).

But to claim that Native American genocide is being practiced today by the government within the United States of America bares a burden of proof which the claimants in the article cited cannot establish beyond a reasonable doubt.

derry

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Historically, the treatment by the American government of the Native American peoples was a sad tale indeed. And there was some evidence suggesting that during the western expansion days hundreds of years past there may have been some truth to the claims of genocide through the use of diseased blankets, or attempts at forced assimilation (when Native children were taken from their parents and placed in boarding schools). Forced relocations onto greatly reduced land area reservations did occur, and many of such reservations exist today. There was also a history of White settler encroachment on reservations that were guaranteed by treaty, but voided when gold was discovered (e.g., Black Hills of South Dakota).

But to claim that Native American genocide is being practiced today by the government within the United States of America bares a burden of proof which the claimants in the article cited cannot establish beyond a reasonable doubt.

Yeah I know you got be dead to prove a genoside is taking place.Bit of pity that once your dead then you cant tell anybody about it.Catch 22.

So I take the differnt slant and I learnt this one from living in Germany in 1990 era and what the germans now say.

They came to take away the gipsys i said nothing ,They came to take away the socialists and I said nothing ,They came to take away the jews and I said nothing.One day they came to take me away and there was nobody left to speak for me.

Germany has now tught me its better to shoot from the hip and kick up a fuss too soon than wait for the genoside to be completed

So with brush in hand there is a few ways that one can try to help out

One every voter in ROI can make a voting issue.If enough voters in ROI tell the present regime here in the ROI to close down the embassy in the USA and set up a embassy in the Republic of Lakatoh they are obliged to do the peoples wishes.

if the regime choses to ignore the demands of the people and the in the next election enough voters have made the issue of suffient importance then the next elected government could be elected on a mandate to do the peoples wishes and close down the USA embassy and open a Lakatoh embassy.(Assuming the Obama regime would allow that a embassy can be sited in Republic of Lakatoh)

So as the start to this I sent my first email to the department of forgien affairs that this new issue now exists and that the requiremnt to move the USA emabassy now exists.
If they come out and publically declare that having now been made aware of this issue and will rapidly change the embassy to the Republic of Lakatoh then that single email will have succeded.
However if that isnt enough to convince them then I shall have to drum extra voters in ROI to send similar Emails and letters.
We must consider the plight of the republic of Lakatoh to be similar to the polish jews in Warsaw who were not dead yet as they hadnt reached Auchwich as they fought against the Hitler regime .

But seeing as your in So cal you might not be a ROI voter as you cant vote unless your in ROI so your not mayby in position to help the republic of Lakatoh


Derry

GuanYin

Ohhh this is so not US politics.

moved.

mysterious

GuanYin wrote: »

Ohhh this is so not US politics.

moved.

US politician, i.e aka president Obama discussing something in politics, is not politics.

Riiiight.
But onto the topic. I've said this before with G.W.Bush too. Just because the previous president said boo, and the existing president says boo on any topic.

Why do we all jump to it? If Obama says something else do we jump again? Red indians? I mean I will refuse to read what he was rambling on about in the above.. I just need prop this question up, as to why everyone feels it so important to respond or react to everything small or trivial- major thing he says.

Gordon

I made the mistake of referring to Red Indians while speaking in a group that contained a 'Red Indian' while in America. Little did I know that they really don't like that description, the current PC term is 'Native American'. I was a tad embarrassed to say the least.

missingtime

Feathers not dots

bonkey

mysterious wrote: »

US politician, i.e aka president Obama discussing something in politics, is not politics.

Someone else, claiming to read an interpretation into one line of a speech from Obama, which they took completely out of the context in which it is made is not politics, no.

pwd

For anyone who's just reading the short posts, and not wanting to trawl through the article lookin for the "genocide" suggestion :rolleyes::

Obama said "The lines of tribes will be dissolved," in his inauguration speech.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

meglome

You know I've seen many things in here with patchy to non-existent evidence but this is utter ****e.

Nick_oliveri

Gordon wrote: »

I made the mistake of referring to Red Indians while speaking in a group that contained a 'Red Indian' while in America. Little did I know that they really don't like that description, the current PC term is 'Native American'. I was a tad embarrassed to say the least.

I'd refer to such good people as "there first Americans" or "true Americans".

DubTony

derry wrote: »

One every voter in ROI can make a voting issue.If enough voters in ROI tell the present regime here in the ROI to close down the embassy in the USA and set up a embassy in the Republic of Lakatoh they are obliged to do the peoples wishes.

if the regime choses to ignore the demands of the people and the in the next election enough voters have made the issue of suffient importance then the next elected government could be elected on a mandate to do the peoples wishes and close down the USA embassy and open a Lakatoh embassy.(Assuming the Obama regime would allow that a embassy can be sited in Republic of Lakatoh)

Great idea Derry. we'll all lobby our politicians right now to pull our embassy from the country that has ploughed in billions in FDI into this country. We'll concentrate all our efforts on recognising this other "country" and we'll ignore failing banks, inept politicians, growing dole queues, negative equity, financial crises, etc. etc. Yup, I can see the people filling the streets of Ireland in support of the native Americans.

Get Real.

Sofa_King Good

DubTony wrote: »

Great idea Derry.

I agree, but not sarcastically.

DubTony wrote: »

we'll all lobby our politicians right now to pull our embassy from the country that has ploughed in billions in FDI into this country.

We'll concentrate all our efforts on recognising this other "country" and we'll ignore failing banks, inept politicians, growing dole queues, negative equity, financial crises, etc. etc. Yup, I can see the people filling the streets of Ireland in support of the native Americans.

Get Real.

I personally think that anyone who would put personal wealth over moral responisbilities to what is right needs to get real and all those economic problems have feck all to do with native americans anyway.

If you are serious here is a website which may be of inspiration to you, The Somerville Divestment Project - http://www.divestmentproject.org/

They are an NGO who got this question put on the ballot at the Presidential elections in two districts in Massachusetts

"Shall the state representative from this district be instructed to vote in
favor of a non-binding resolution calling on the federal government to support the right of
all people, including non-Jewish Palestinian citizens of Israel, to live free from laws that
give more rights to people of one religion than another?"

This is contrary to the US position of unflinching political and economical aid to Israel but what it comes down to is universal human rights, much like the question of the native-americans.

These were the results:

Somerville, MA: 62% of Voters for YES
YES 9100 NO: 5542 Cambridge, MA: 73 % of Voters for YES
YES 9637 NO: 3650


Despite the mayor, all local elected officials and the local media being against it.

Glassheart

GuanYin wrote: »

Ohhh this is so not US politics.

moved.

Come on!
This isn't a garbage can...

DubTony

SKG, nobody mentioned anything about personal wealth. Stop putting words in my mouth.

We've enough problems of our own in this country to expect anyone to give a rat's ass about some native American taking Obama's quote waaaaaaaaaay out of context and setting up his own country.

Derry is suggesting that you and I and the population of Ireland actually make this an issue with out politicians. Let's put it this way, when Charlie O' Connor knocks on my door looking for my number 1 he's gonna get a bollicking alright, but it'll have nothing to do with the guys on the reservation. I have a feeling that most people here will feel the same way.

Jumpy

I have my reservations about this thread.

GuanYin

derry wrote: »

So I take the differnt slant and I learnt this one from living in Germany in 1990 era and what the germans now say.

I have to disagree with you totally here. I don't think we should embrace pre-cold war German socialism as a means of climbing out of our current global recession. Nor do I believe the Irish government would benefit from such an act.

Sofa_King Good

DubTony wrote: »

SKG, nobody mentioned anything about personal wealth. Stop putting words in my mouth.

We've enough problems of our own in this country to expect anyone to give a rat's ass about some native American taking Obama's quote waaaaaaaaaay out of context and setting up his own country.

Derry is suggesting that you and I and the population of Ireland actually make this an issue with out politicians. Let's put it this way, when Charlie O' Connor knocks on my door looking for my number 1 he's gonna get a bollicking alright, but it'll have nothing to do with the guys on the reservation. I have a feeling that most people here will feel the same way.

Fair enough and I'm sorry for misinterpreting you it just that it bugs me that any time someone thinks individually and attempts to transform their ideological passions into action it is all too often prematurely dismissed which is part of the reason I feel we are were we are today.

Someone, somewhere, :Dsaid something like this "those who do not get involved in politics allow themselves to be governed by their inferiors"".

latenia

derry wrote: »

So I take the differnt slant and I learnt this one from living in Germany in 1990 era and what the germans now say.

They came to take away the gipsys i said nothing ,They came to take away the socialists and I said nothing ,They came to take away the jews and I said nothing.One day they came to take me away and there was nobody left to speak for me.

Fair enough, but can you show me any quote from Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot or Mao in which they publicly announced their intention to commit genocide, as you have said Obama did? Why would he?

Sofa_King Good

latenia wrote: »

Fair enough, but can you show me any quote from Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot or Mao in which they publicly announced their intention to commit genocide, as you have said Obama did? Why would he?

hitler

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3681399/Armenian-Genocide-hitler-quote

Pol Pot

“The only good bourgeois is a dead bourgeois.”

etc and

Stalin/Mao
http://lmgtfy.com/

Hitler called his genocide eugenics, Stalin agricultural development and Mao the cultural revolution, Israel's is Zionism

Obama's potentially can be called called change

latenia

That Hitler quote is reported 2nd hand and wasn't part of a public speech. The Pol Pot one is more of a socialist soundbite that could be heard at any left-wing gathering for the last 100 years. My actual point, and the point you can make about many of these 'hidden signs' such as symbols and hand signals jumped on by conspiracy theorists, is that if you are going to attempt something like this, or any conspiracy, why would you come out and say it? The very essence of a conspiracy is secrecy.

Sofa_King Good

latenia wrote: »

That Hitler quote is reported 2nd hand and wasn't part of a public speech.

It is on record - http://www.armenian-genocide.org/hitler.html

It... " referred to the same speech in Obersalzberg"

From the transcript of the Nuremberg Tribunal
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-14/tgmwc-14-132-01.shtml

indough

lets not be silly people, its fairly obvious when he said "The lines of tribes will be dissolved" he was referring to doing away with racial divides

or did he say something other than that which specifically referred to eradicating native americans

Sofa_King Good

indough wrote: »

lets not be silly people, its fairly obvious when he said "The lines of tribes will be dissolved" he was referring to doing away with racial divides

or did he say something other than that which specifically referred to eradicating native americans

personally I think he was talking about internationalism/global socialism but he is not his own script writer anyways.

another personal opinion which doesn't really mean anything is that I think that Obama is a moral man but is part of a the flawed system of US democracy. Wealthy donors are an absolute necessity, they have the power to make campaigns, candidates and when there candidates are elected they expect payback - see the bailouts.

The biggest concern with Obama for me would be if he is taken out, either national or international extremists or from inside and blamed on a couple of white nationalist dupes from the southern states then the US would really kick-off.

And the hysterical media would have a responsibility in their creation of the myth of Obama the messiah. Some kind JFK and Martin Luther King incarnate.

indough

i doubt he will be taken out at all, surely anyone with the intelligence to achieve such a thing would know that keeping him in power would be better for their cause

as for bank bailouts, i think they are a necessity really, its just a matter of the conditions you attach to them

Sofa_King Good

indough wrote: »

i doubt he will be taken out at all, surely anyone with the intelligence to achieve such a thing would know that keeping him in power would be better for their cause

as for bank bailouts, i think they are a necessity really, its just a matter of the conditions you attach to them

I'd disagree. depending on what you believe he would be more useful dead than alive, much like JFK and M.L. King and RFK to a lesser extent.

The middle-classes have generally been the driving force behind any social revolution and it would be them (white middle classes) who would suffer the backlash.

As for the bailouts, to me it is another case of robbing from the poor and giving to the rich.

K-9

indough wrote: »

lets not be silly people, its fairly obvious when he said "The lines of tribes will be dissolved" he was referring to doing away with racial divides

YEP, seems some have interpreted doing away differently though.

bonkey

K-9 wrote: »

YEP, seems some have interpreted doing away differently though.

Well yes. I'm sure some did.

Then again, we've just seen on this thread the suggestion that the word "change" could be a euphemism for genocide...

That we can find someone who can interpret a word a certain way does not lend that interpretation credibility.