England v Italy (pre/during/post thread)

Orizio · 07-02-2009 4:39pm

Is it me or are England offside pretty much all of the time? How many times have they been caught for it now?

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:40pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Yeah i know its just a really awful decision and one that' ll haunt him i mean such a great and patriotic player should never be embarrassed like this.

It is crazy. If he isn't replaced at half time then I think Mallet has lost the plot.

juvenal · 07-02-2009 4:41pm

Trying to follow it on the big screen here in the stadium. Looks like Italy are conceding the scores rather than England creating.

Thoughts on Goode's try? Difficult to see here, although looked like it was a close call.

What did they say upstairs?

ironingbored · 07-02-2009 4:41pm

19-3. Italy would be well in this game even with a mediocre scrum half. Having said that could get him in as a replacement for Whittaker.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:43pm

Jaysus....to much bloody tripping going on these days. Haskell you idiot.

Now Italy, slot this over....go in 16 points behind, replace Bergamasco, come out in the 2nd half and try and get some honour back.

Chucky the tree · 07-02-2009 4:45pm

haha, I wonder if you'd ever get Ryle nugent or tony Ward calling an Irish player a half-wit. I doubt it.

Euro_Kraut · 07-02-2009 4:47pm

juvenal wrote: »

Looks like Italy are conceding the scores rather than England creating.

Spot on. England look like scoring most when Italy have the ball.

Thoughts on Goode's try? Difficult to see here, although looked like it was a close call.

What did they say upstairs?

Was pretty straight forward call. Only took a two looks by TMO to award it. That try aside he has been poor.

juvenal · 07-02-2009 4:47pm

Was there contact there by Haskell? There certainly looked like intent.

Come on Italy, make a game of it!

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:47pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

haha, I wonder if you'd ever get Ryle nugent or tony Ward calling an Irish player a half-wit. I doubt it.

lol.....as much as I don't really like Moore. He does come out with some beauts!

toomevara · 07-02-2009 4:48pm

God, poor, poor Bergamasco...please, please Mallet...give him the shepherds crook....A player of his quality doesn't deserve this...jesus, get Troncon to put a shirt on, he couldn't be any worse!!!

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:49pm

juvenal wrote: »

Was there contact there by Haskell? There certainly looked like intent.

Come on Italy, make a game of it!

Yeah, it was blatant.

Seriously, Italy have a lot of the ball and the forwards are on top really.
They should be a lot closer to England.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 4:49pm

Italy could win this if they get a proper 9.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:51pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Italy could win this if they get a proper 9.

The problem is it could be too late!
If they had started with a proper SH they would surely be very close if not winning the game.

Orizio · 07-02-2009 4:52pm

Only 16 behind, get a proper scrum half on, England will cough up penalties all day and are playing poorly, who knows what will happen?

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 4:52pm

Noopti wrote: »

The problem is it could be too late!
If they had started with a proper SH they would surely be very close if not winning the game.

Well a Italy of old would be 50 points down by now. Come Troncon get out of retirement and they ll be fine for a few more years.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 4:56pm

Orizio wrote: »

Only 16 behind, get a proper scrum half on, England will cough up penalties all day and are playing poorly, who knows what will happen?

True. Hopefully they can come out and start making use of their superior possession and territory.

I think all we can take from the game so far is that England are poor and Italy have been strangled by an extremely poor coaching decision.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:00pm

Proper SH on now! Come Italy YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

Nukem · 07-02-2009 5:02pm

Change in scrum half - fingers crossed

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:03pm

Stev_o wrote: »

Proper SH on now! Come Italy YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

Finally, some sense has come into it!

ITALIA! ITALIA!

Really hope Italy do it, just so John Inverdale can eat his words from before the match when interviewing Dallagio:
"I won't ask you what you think the result will be, but how comprehensive will it be?"

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:08pm

You'd swear this is Rome cause all i hear is Italy Italy Italy from the crowd.

thedini · 07-02-2009 5:10pm

come on England drive on now and stuff them.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:11pm

Stev_o wrote: »

You'd swear this is Rome cause all i hear is Italy Italy Italy from the crowd.

I know, the Italian fans are doing themselves justice for sure!

I'd love the see Borthwicks stats so far. He yards gained must be negative at this stage.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:12pm

Noopti wrote: »

I know, the Italian fans are doing themselves justice for sure!

I'd love the see Borthwicks stats so far. He yards gained must be negative at this stage.

How he's a international player i dunno. Really why the hell is MJ a manager and why didnt he at least clean the present coaches because England are the definition of lethargic

matt cork · 07-02-2009 5:13pm

england are an absolute disgrace

poor in the scrum
poor in the backs
poor decision making
poor at the breakdown

just so, so poor

toomevara · 07-02-2009 5:15pm

matt cork wrote: »

england are an absolute disgrace

poor in the scrum
poor in the backs
poor decision making
poor at the breakdown

just so, so poor

Yeah, on the strength of this I cant wait for Croker in a fortnight.. England are just dull, dull, dull.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:15pm

matt cork wrote: »

england are an absolute disgrace

poor in the scrum
poor in the backs
poor decision making
poor at the breakdown

just so, so poor

We are looking at the two poorest teams in the 6N I think. I put England at 5th, Italy at 6th in my prediction, and looking at this game I can't see myself changing that prediction.

thedini · 07-02-2009 5:17pm

get in there.

Orizio · 07-02-2009 5:17pm

Turnover off Bortolami, Ellis try, game over unfortunately.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:18pm

Ah Jaysus, good try. But Italy don't deserve this scoreline.

First of the English tries that can't be attributed to the scrumhalf debacle though.

Edit: Wales v England next. lol...that is going to be fun!!

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:18pm

"And we are hearing our Italian vistors for the first time"

What stupid commentating because all you have heard is the Italian crowd compared to the non existent England fans.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:24pm

I love the ref's being nice when SH take a quick one and knock it on and dont give it.

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:25pm

Stev_o wrote: »

"And we are hearing our Italian vistors for the first time"

What stupid commentating because all you have heard is the Italian crowd compared to the non existent England fans.

Yeah, I laughed when I heard that!!

Orizio · 07-02-2009 5:25pm

Can't stand the BBC commentators, depressing as hell regardless of how good or bad the game is.

ironingbored · 07-02-2009 5:26pm

England are atrocious.

Parisse is a shining example to his team and country. Absolutely brilliant

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:26pm

Orizio wrote: »

Can't stand the BBC commentators, depressing as hell regardless of how good or bad the game is.

Why i hate all national broadcasters. Only plus is Brian Moore and his ELV rants.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:29pm

England get another yellow and playing dire brilliant. Some things never change.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:32pm

Monster hit on Noon there

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:33pm

Brian Moore in praising ref shocker!

razorblunt · 07-02-2009 5:35pm

What I hate about Brian Moore is that it seems he's just sitting there waiting for things to rant about he lets alot of action go just to get to his next whinge!

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:36pm

razorblunt wrote: »

What I hate about Brian Moore is that it seems he's just sitting there waiting for things to rant about he lets alot of action go just to get to his next whinge!

What action?? Its just been 70 mintues of everyone hoping Italy would score.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:38pm

**** YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noopti · 07-02-2009 5:38pm

YES! Great try!

Chucky the tree · 07-02-2009 5:38pm

Kaine Robertson is some blouse.

Chucky the tree · 07-02-2009 5:39pm

Edge of your pants for the spread boys!

ironingbored · 07-02-2009 5:39pm

Anybody else think Italy may have won this if the replacement scrumhalf had been on since the start?

E vai Mirko!!!!!! Great try. Best running rugby we've seen today.

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:40pm

ironingbored wrote: »

Anybody else think Italy may have won this if the replacement scrumhalf had been on since the start?

E vai Mirko!!!!!! Great try. Best running rugby we've seen today.

Yup pretty much bit of a worry for us in Rome because that pack is just pure awesome.

toomevara · 07-02-2009 5:41pm

ironingbored wrote: »

Anybody else think Italy may have won this if the replacement scrumhalf had been on since the start?

E vai Mirko!!!!!! Great try. Best running rugby we've seen today.

No doubt, had Italy started the game with a recognised scrummie, they would have won this game. England are a pointless rabble...shocking performance, bloody awful game..roll on 5 o'clock

Stev_o · 07-02-2009 5:43pm

So close again

ironingbored · 07-02-2009 5:43pm

Some of the Italian hits have been superb.

I'm more worried about Italy now than England.

C'mon Ireland!

toomevara · 07-02-2009 5:44pm

Stev_o wrote: »

So close again

Mallet must be sickened...you've got to say thats down to his selection....

England v Italy (pre/during/post thread)

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