N9 Castledermot to Kilcullen -when will it open?

bottletops

Just reading this and thought youd be interested. Didn't think it'd finish this year...

156 km of new roads will be completed in 2009. The projects are; N4 Leixlip to M50 Junction; N6 Athlone to Ballinasloe; N7 Nenagh to Limerick; N8 Fermoy to Mitchelstown; N9 Waterford to Knocktopher; N9 Kilcullen to Carlow, N51 Navan Inner Relief Road and the N25 Waterford City By Pass

http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15949,en.html

jonny oxford

bottletops wrote: »

Just reading this and thought youd be interested. Didn't think it'd finish this year...

156 km of new roads will be completed in 2009. The projects are; N4 Leixlip to M50 Junction; N6 Athlone to Ballinasloe; N7 Nenagh to Limerick; N8 Fermoy to Mitchelstown; N9 Waterford to Knocktopher; N9 Kilcullen to Carlow, N51 Navan Inner Relief Road and the N25 Waterford City By Pass

http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15949,en.html

I would of thought it will be a long time yet before its open. From the looks of it there still seems to be a lot of work still to do but who knows.

The sooner the better!

leincar

Great news if it happens. I just fear they put it into the wrong paragraph.

HugoIrl

Thats deadly, they were planning to push these upgrades so good to hear they'll be done this year.

patrickc

bottletops wrote: »

Just reading this and thought youd be interested. Didn't think it'd finish this year...

156 km of new roads will be completed in 2009. The projects are; N4 Leixlip to M50 Junction; N6 Athlone to Ballinasloe; N7 Nenagh to Limerick; N8 Fermoy to Mitchelstown; N9 Waterford to Knocktopher; N9 Kilcullen to Carlow, N51 Navan Inner Relief Road and the N25 Waterford City By Pass

http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15949,en.html

jonny oxford wrote: »

I would of thought it will be a long time yet before its open. From the looks of it there still seems to be a lot of work still to do but who knows.

The sooner the better!

i had a good look at it today on the way home, theres the first layer of tar on alot of it... with any luck they'll get there this year

jake59

the head engineer on site on this part of the n9 lives around the corner from me here in Tullow and he reckons the deadline is Jan 2010 and they are ahead of that at the moment....from the horse's mouth as one might say....

Bards

jake59 wrote: »

the head engineer on site on this part of the n9 lives around the corner from me here in Tullow and he reckons the deadline is Jan 2010 and they are ahead of that at the moment....from the horse's mouth as one might say....

Can you ask him for some Pics / newsletters?

can you find out what the progress is on Carlow to Knocktopher. Will there be a stage opening?

penny37

hey - does anyone know if any part of the road will be tolled? i drive it everyday and the last thing i need is a toll!!:eek:

jake59

i'll have a chat with him the next time i see him walking the dogs

Bards

penny37 wrote: »

hey - does anyone know if any part of the road will be tolled? i drive it everyday and the last thing i need is a toll!!:eek:

M9 Waterford - Dublin Motorway will not be tolled, due to money comming from the exchequer and E.U

penny37

woo hoo! at last .... some proof my tax dollars are being out to good use!:D all we need now is a decent road from carlow to tullow!

patrickc

penny37 wrote: »

woo hoo! at last .... some proof my tax dollars are being out to good use!:D all we need now is a decent road from carlow to tullow!

nah we should be cut off from there altogether;)

ShayK1

penny37 wrote: »

woo hoo! at last .... some proof my tax dollars are being out to good use!:D all we need now is a decent road from carlow to tullow!

Whats wrong with the Hacketstown Rd?

Queen-Mise

ShayK1 wrote: »

Whats wrong with the Hacketstown Rd?

it is better than the other one, but thats not saying a lot, the other one is so bad. they are some bloody bad turns on the Hacketstown as well.

wheres me jumpa

Great news, the already open section is such a time saver, this addition will really make the journey to Dublin a breeze.

ShayK1

queen-mise wrote: »

it is better than the other one, but thats not saying a lot, the other one is so bad. they are some bloody bad turns on the Hacketstown as well.

There's a series of 4 bends before Killerig and 1 after Killerig, that's it.

penny37

depends on what part of carlow ya heading from to tullow- am going from wexford side myself so not heading into carlow.... but i hate the carlow/ tullow road. :mad:.. and its sure a pity that there isnt a decent link to motorway like athy will have... poor tullow ... always forgotten about by council!

ShayK1

penny37 wrote: »

depends on what part of carlow ya heading from to tullow- am going from wexford side myself so not heading into carlow.... but i hate the carlow/ tullow road. :mad:.. and its sure a pity that there isnt a decent link to motorway like athy will have... poor tullow ... always forgotten about by council!

Well, if you hate it then instead of turning onto the Tullow Rd at Walls forge, just go straight (coming from the wexford direction) and you'll come out on the Hacketstown road. As for the council forgetting about Tullow, are you aware than there are council offices in Tullow?

patrickc

can we discuss the m9/n9 on this thread and if ye want to discuss other roads open a new thread, or use the random waffle one please

ilovegermany

Hi,

Not sure if this is the right thread but I thought the Kilcullen to Carlow Bypass section of Motorway was due to open in late 2010, but according to the latest information from the NRA its due to open by the end of 2009!

Anybody have any information on this?

jiggajt

According to the nra website it still says Q4 2010:

http://www.nra.ie/RoadSchemeActivity/KildareCountyCouncil/N9N10KilcullentoCarlow/SchemeName,15481,en.html

Where did you hear that it was 2009?

leincar

http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15949,en.html. Its also in a different thread started by bottletops.

jiggajt

Interesting!

ilovegermany

Sorry, should have included a link to that NRA press release.

I took a drive from Castledermot out the back roads heading for Athy and then headed back towards the current N9 around Moone a few weeks ago. They seem to have done a massive amount of work already - several overbridges open to traffic and a huge amount of tarmacadam type surface already in place - I reckon that with any bit of decent weather it will be open by the Autumn considering that the grade seperated junctions at the Carlow Bypass tie in and the Kilcullen end are largely in place!

Here's hoping!!!!!!!!1

bottletops

ilovegermany wrote: »

The Kilcullen end are largely in place!

Not strictly true. There is a lot of work to be done on the Kc junction. The existing motorway end will link to the new road (obviously!). The existing slip roads need to be realigned and the existing road from Carlow will be joined with the current Kc to Athy road.

I think once they really started constructing this we're going to be allowing extra time on our commutes to get through the roadworks!!

On another point the bridge by the Priory looks to be almost complete (no more big hump on the road!), and that's the biggest structure between Kc and Castledermot.... from what I've read

Rabidlamb

I wonder if they'll fast track the new Ballitore junction thereby bypassing Castledermot first.

That will be the biggest time saving in the whole project.

steelbar

wheres me jumpa wrote: »

Great news, the already open section is such a time saver, this addition will really make the journey to Dublin a breeze.

Was thinkinh about that wheb driving home there a while ago

Its roughly 30km from the start of the Carlow bypass (between Carlow and Castledermot) to the end of the motorway at Killcullen
This usually takes around 25 to 35 mins depending on traffic.
When the new road opens you should be able to do at 120kmph (legally!!)

This should take around 15 mins

Which will be great! As we will miss castledermot and that stupid 80km section between Crookstown and Kilgowan (imo the worst part of the road and you always loose phone reception there aswell!)

Heard in the shop the other day that they hope to have it open by the end of the summer, here's hoping..

Mind you if I was the company building it, I dont think I would be in any rush to finish early, and will the govt be able to pay the bonuses if they do??

patrickc

steelbar wrote: »

Was thinkinh about that wheb driving home there a while ago

Its roughly 30km from the start of the Carlow bypass (between Carlow and Castledermot) to the end of the motorway at Killcullen
This usually takes around 25 to 35 mins depending on traffic.
When the new road opens you should be able to do at 120kmph (legally!!)

This should take around 15 mins

Which will be great! As we will miss castledermot and that stupid 80km section between Crookstown and Kilgowan (imo the worst part of the road and you always loose phone reception there aswell!)

Heard in the shop the other day that they hope to have it open by the end of the summer, here's hoping..

Mind you if I was the company building it, I dont think I would be in any rush to finish early, and will the govt be able to pay the bonuses if they do??

coming home allow 40/50 mins sometimes from end of m9 to carlow

i heard just before xmas it will open

never lose phone recepton there myself am with meteor/eircom mobile

if people drive properly on it and use the overtaking lane only when overtaking, happy days.. as if though

jiggajt

steelbar wrote: »

Heard in the shop the other day that they hope to have it open by the end of the summer, here's hoping..

Please stop getting my hopes up. I reckon near christmas is more realistic. These things always finish early but then when its time to hand the road over to the council it takes them months to organise the opening. The Carlow bypass was officially finished for 3 months before the council opened it.

Heard on the news today there was two people killed outside castledermott last night. Probably wouldnt have happened if the road was open by now. I guess it shows you how important these projects are.

fricatus

steelbar wrote: »

As we will miss castledermot and that stupid 80km section between Crookstown and Kilgowan (imo the worst part of the road and you always loose phone reception there aswell!)

Hehe, I presume you only go as far as Carlow from Dublin, right? Fair enough, as this is the Carlow forum, but if you had to do Dublin to Waterford on any sort of a regular basis, you'd be wishing for roads of that, eh, standard by the time you got past Paulstwon :rolleyes:

(I mean, whatever about phone reception dropping out, sure the blummin radio even starts to drop out between Thomastown and Mullinavegas!)

shenanigans1982

patrickc wrote: »

never lose phone recepton there myself am with meteor/eircom mobile

I always used to lose phone reception between the end of the motorway and castledermot although I put it down to meteor.

Heard about the crash on the news earlier and also heard the road may be closed this evening and over the weekend....anyone know anymore on this?

Sully

The road has re-opened. It only closes for forensics to examine the scene and clean the place up and is usually done for a few hours to a day at most.

Unless the road is in very poor shape and requires to be closed, its unlikely to be closed over the weekend.

RIP to the two people who have died.

patrickc

Sully wrote: »

The road has re-opened. It only closes for forensics to examine the scene and clean the place up and is usually done for a few hours to a day at most.

Unless the road is in very poor shape and requires to be closed, its unlikely to be closed over the weekend.

RIP to the two people who have died.

yeh RIP to them

they did say they may have to close it over the weekend to further their investigations

Queen-Mise

are they planning to open the new road in one go or in two halves does anyone know.

testicle

The whole shebang I understand.

aynon

straight. to my knowledge, the whole hog, shouldnt be much problem between now and then

kwalshe

Was working at the site office at Mullaunmast(for Kilcullen to powerstown section) and the lads there said the castledermot bypass will be finished at the start of the summer and rest by oct/nov... What do people reckon for journey times between Tinryland and Red cow.. any guesses?

toe_knee

About 40 minutes I would say on a clear road (as if you will get that) without speeding

ShayK1

kwalshe wrote: »

Was working at the site office at Mullaunmast(for Kilcullen to powerstown section) and the lads there said the castledermot bypass will be finished at the start of the summer and rest by oct/nov... What do people reckon for journey times between Tinryland and Red cow.. any guesses?

I was going to say 40 minutes too. When I was commuting it took me 45 minutes from town.

kwalshe

ShayK1 wrote: »

I was going to say 40 minutes too. When I was commuting it took me 45 minutes from town.

Even after the road is done from Carlow all the way up?

toe_knee

Roughly will be about 79Km from Tinryland to Red Cow so it would be 39 minutes within the speed limit. The distance will be around the same but with the motorway nearly all the way to the far side of Naas the traffice shouldnt be as much of a problem

ShayK1

kwalshe wrote: »

Even after the road is done from Carlow all the way up?

yeah, it'll be around 70km. Take an average speed of 100kmph ... would that not give you a 40 minute journey?

road_high

kwalshe wrote: »

Was working at the site office at Mullaunmast(for Kilcullen to powerstown section) and the lads there said the castledermot bypass will be finished at the start of the summer and rest by oct/nov... What do people reckon for journey times between Tinryland and Red cow.. any guesses?

They are going to open it all as one though in oct/nov presumably..

bottletops

OMG why oh why would they choose to open the bridge at the priory at 5:15 in the evening :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

30 minutes stuck in a traffic jam on way home yesterday while they closed the road and stopped the traffic re-align it. Surely they could have done that in the middle of the day or early in the morning. Idiots!!!!!

aynon

so now you dont have to duck and dodge at the priory? god finally that road has been ready for weeks!

bottletops

aynon wrote: »

so now you dont have to duck and dodge and scrape the bottom of the car on the ground at the priory? god finally that road has been ready for weeks!

aynon

bottletops wrote: »

god you must be doing a fair clip to scrap the bottom of your car, i saw the difference in gradient. or do you have a super low rider?

patrickc

lads please keep this on topic, about the road opening ... thanks

tomtraubert

Official completion date is October 2010. Not a chance it'll be open by the end of this summer. There is a difference between the road being completed and a road being opened to traffic. The motorway section (kilcullen-start of carlow bypass) is far off being completed and earliest they could hope for is xmas i reckon looking at progress as I drive by it.

Will they open the motorway section before finishing the link road to Athy from the junction at, as someone called it Ballitore (its actually Mullamast)? but that's irrelevant because as regards early completion bonuses - thing of the past. The department of finance penned a new contract (see their website) and this does away with it and this job is being carried out under that form of contract. The contractor may ask for a bonus to be paid to finish it early but the NRA/DoF would probably not approve it in the current recession.

So having said all that its gonna open in 2010 unless something else happens in the meantine.

tomtraubert

aynon wrote: »

so now you dont have to duck and dodge at the priory? god finally that road has been ready for weeks!

Actually it wasn't...

jiggajt

tomtraubert wrote: »

Official completion date is October 2010.

Although i would agree with your overall caution wrt the opening and not getting ahead of ourselves the official finishing date was altered from Q4 2010 to Q4 2009 in a press release from the NRA dated Jan 2009. Here is the link:

http://www.nra.ie/News/PressReleases/htmltext,15949,en.html

Note where it says:

"156 km of new roads will be completed in 2009. The projects are; N4 Leixlip to M50 Junction; N6 Athlone to Ballinasloe; N7 Nenagh to Limerick; N8 Fermoy to Mitchelstown; N9 Waterford to Knocktopher; N9 Kilcullen to Carlow, N51 Navan Inner Relief Road and the N25 Waterford City By Pass "

If the NRA has budgeted for its completion this year then the paying of the bonuses wont be an issue. Technically the paying of the bonuses wont be an issue anyway as the contract was signed agreeing the bonus structure in 2007 and so the government will have to pay all bonuses regardless of whether they can afford them or not.