Christian Bale's rage

The Mad Hatter

eamon234 wrote: »

Very professional - and what's with the fake American accent doesn't he remember where he's actually from? I know he likes to stay in character but he even puts on that accent in interviews. One of the most over-rated actors alive today IMO.

Not reading through seven pages of this, but I think it's customary for an actor to stay within whatever accent they're using for days at a time. I saw an interview with Stephen Fry, saying he'd met Hugh Laurie on the set of House, and Laurie apparently spoke right through this meeting with his old friend in his American accent. It's easier than switching over and back, I suppose.

Loomis

Wagon wrote: »

The latest crap already in production is the reamake of the Karake Kid:
-A classic movie from your childhood you watched at christmas will now become a modern day disaster about Will Smith's ten year old son standing up to the bullies in his school. No seriosuly, that's what it's about.

And that absolute abomonation, that's officially going ahead now, from MTV to remake The Rocky Horrow Show:
-Inevitable pop crap rubbish with rap and poncy men being unfunny.

Ugh God I know. I cringed when I heard this. It's ridiculous. It's not a remake; it's making a movie and deciding to use the name of another successful movie to promote your own.
That Starsky and Hutch film a while ago is a good example; that was a generic cop comedy and they just happened to call them Starsky and Hutch, called it a 'movie of a Tv series' and used it to get attention.
Pathetic.

davyjose

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Not reading through seven pages of this, but I think it's customary for an actor to stay within whatever accent they're using for days at a time. I saw an interview with Stephen Fry, saying he'd met Hugh Laurie on the set of House, and Laurie apparently spoke right through this meeting with his old friend in his American accent. It's easier than switching over and back, I suppose.

That's ridiculous. I mean, Laurie actually probably though Fry didn't think he was a complete d!ckhead. But he did. And he was right.

If one of my mates went to hollywood, and started speaking to me in character, he'd get told quickly what a sap he was being.

brosps

bale has been a respected and professional actor for how long?? 20 years nearly?? All it takes is this one hint of humanity and he's tainted as a whinging diva child by the bitter masses on the internet for the rest of his career.

That said this is fupping hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz6-7c_7Hk&eurl=http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/12/75656018&feature=player_embedded

Valmont

So he's an asshole. Doesn't take away from the fact that he's one of the finest actors out there today. He puts out consistently good movies. I even liked equilibrium.

Redpunto

MAybe the guy deserved it:D

thelordofcheese

davyjose wrote: »

That's ridiculous. I mean, Laurie actually probably though Fry didn't think he was a complete d!ckhead. But he did. And he was right.

If one of my mates went to hollywood, and started speaking to me in character, he'd get told quickly what a sap he was being.

Acting - you don't get it.

4zn76tysfajdxp

My favorite bit was when he went:

Why the **** are you walkin' right through UH DUH DUH DEH DUH! like this in the background?

Becuase I can imagine Bale miming the lumbering walk of a poorly-coordinated idiot in an attempt to highlight for the rest of the cast and crew how little he thinks of this DP by out stretchting his arms and circling the spot with heavy footsteps. The idea makes me chuckle.

Biggins

Came across an interesting point of view.
I will just post it and leave it at that:

Christian Bale's rant is more embarrassing for McG
A recording of the Dark Knight star railing at someone for walking into his line of sight on set speaks volumes about who's really in charge of Terminator Salvation


When it emerged last year that McG had been hired to take on Terminator, you could hear the cries of incredulity all the way from here to Comic Con. The fanboys were not at all impressed at the idea of an iconic franchise falling into the hands of a director who presumably thought: "job well done" after wrapping Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle.

If the name doesn't mean anything to you, take it from me that the former music video director born Joseph McGinty Nichol (McG is a childhood nickname used to differentiate him from his uncle and grandfather, who are also named Joe) is pretty much public enemy No 1 on film sites like Aint It Cool News, which these days can make or break a new movie.

Slowly, however, McG (yes, it almost hurts to say it out loud) has been turning things around in advance of the film's June opening, partly by talking incessantly about how true he's going to be to James Cameron's original vision, and partly by throwing large sums of money at anyone who had anything remotely to do with The Dark Knight in the hope of bringing them on board.

In London in November, the film-maker explained how he persuaded Christian Bale to take the role of John Connor, leader of the resistance in the battle against humanity's machine overlords. "I met Christian and he told me to **** right off. He didn't want to do it," the director said. "I said: 'Look, it's not going to be about explosions. It's going to be about characters.' He said: 'If you can get it to a place where you could watch the whole thing on a stage for two hours with no special effects or anything then I'll consider it.' We worked on it and worked on it and presented it to Christian and he agreed to work on the movie."

Unfortunately for McG, it now looks like Bale's initial reaction may have been somewhat indicative of his general level of respect for the director, judging from this expletive-ridden tape of the actor blasting cinematographer Shane Hurlbut for walking through his line of sight on the set of Salvation last year.

The audio recording, apparently released to Warner Bros's insurers for consideration in the event of a Bale walkout, is, for me, right up there with the infamous David O Russell tirade at Lily Tomlin on the set of I Heart Huckabees. Both are so extreme that you assume at first that the protagonists are somehow sending themselves up. Then slowly, excruciatingly, it becomes clear that this is the type of behaviour considered normal on movie sets.

What it says about Bale as a human being is for others to decide. What it says about Terminator Salvation is that here is a movie whose star is so in charge of events that it is he, not McG, who decides when to reshoot a scene, rather than taking time out to cool off. Might we also not surmise, then, that Bale has been calling the shots in other areas?

At first glance, this might appear to be a good thing. After all, Bale is more respected for artistic decisions he has made in the past than his director. But ultimately one suspects that the film would be rather better off in the hands of a man who was actually in charge and commanded the respect of his actors.

This is an incredibly embarrassing incident for Bale, particularly as it comes from the same time period in which the actor was arrested for allegedly assaulting his mother and sister while in London for July's Dark Knight premiere (the charges were later dropped). But I would argue it is even more galling for McG, who is shown to be completely incapable of standing up to his star on-set. Would Bale have behaved in such a way with Christopher Nolan standing just a few feet away, or Werner Herzog, his director on Rescue Dawn? It seems unlikely.

No, Bale's behaviour suggests that he sees McG pretty much the same way that we do, not as the sort of visionary film-maker capable of giving Terminator a successful, Batman-style makeover, but rather, that guy who made Charlie's Angels II.

How does hearing this tape affect your views of Terminator Salvation? Could Bale's rant have been a mere blip in an otherwise smooth shoot? Or do you agree that it suggests a dangerous imbalance of power on set?

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/feb/04/christian-bale-terminator-tape

4zn76tysfajdxp

Biggins wrote: »

Came across an interesting point of view.
I will just post it and leave it at that:

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/feb/04/christian-bale-terminator-tape

I thought the same thing actually, McG does come across as quite spineless in that incident.

321654

TheParrot wrote: »

I am amazed by the stupidity of you lot.


This "rant" is a PROMOTIONAL EXERCISE. It gets the little people like yourselves talking about the new film. When it comes out in a few months, all you little people will say, "yes, I remember that. Yer man had a great go a someone, must go and see it".

Is there nothing you lot will not believe???

I was looking forward to the movie. Now i couldnt be bothered beause i'll be watching every scene, thinking - is this the one where Bale lost the head.

So the publicity stunt may have back fired.

Biggins

As a fan of the Terminator films, I'd be more worried that this film will be the last one (due to what I think is a genuine rant) and the final, final two will not get made. Leaving the storyline open!

BlitzKrieg

Blake Tangy Six-pack wrote: »

I thought the same thing actually, McG does come across as quite spineless in that incident.

It is a situation where its hard to be anything else, get the celebrity star to take chill pill or give the head of the crew a clatter across the ear.

The article was an interesting read, though I'd say the image it paints is slightly off, the bigger worry would be that if you are having a problem with the DP then you are pretty borderline having a problem with the production as a whole, especially if its a DP that the director brought in because he's comfortable working with him (which is what happened in this case) and any problems Bale has with him are ones the mcg would have already known well in advance and has let slide in his work enviroment which might even be how he likes to work. To throw a fit like he did I think Bale had a number of other aspects of production he found unprofessional. Which could mean the film we are getting is a lazy by the numbers job by a director who's very well known for it.

The Mad Hatter

davyjose wrote: »

That's ridiculous. I mean, Laurie actually probably though Fry didn't think he was a complete d!ckhead. But he did. And he was right.

Fry was very understanding, actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k-T8S0lEwQ

If one of my mates went to hollywood, and started speaking to me in character, he'd get told quickly what a sap he was being.

It's a bit different for actors, though. I'd imagine it's very mentally taxing (not to mention confusing) switching accents several times a day, so they should just stick with whichever is most important.

Edit: Also, I'd say if they're 'faking' the accent, then they're not very good actors.

Interesting take on the whole thing on Ain't it Cool News: Link

4zn76tysfajdxp

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

It is a situation where its hard to be anything else, get the celebrity star to take chill pill or give the head of the crew a clatter across the ear.

True. McG still came across as cowardly in my book though. I don't know what he should have done, but he could've done something.

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Which could mean the film we are getting is a lazy by the numbers job by a director who's very well known for it.

Was anyone expecting anything else though, really? This is McG we're talking about, a man who revels in hackery.




I'm totally biased though, I used to really hate McG. I even had an anti-McG webpage on geocities when I was 15-16 complaining about his crimes against cinema. What a loser I was.

sneakerfreak

Goddamnit I thought the thread title said 'Christian Bale's Rape' ffs lol

Kirnsy

tbf the guy's a looper. success has gone to his head and he seems to have anger issues.

Jesus Juice

Blake Tangy Six-pack wrote: »

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I'm totally biased though, I used to really hate McG. I even had an anti-McG webpage on geocities when I was 15-16 complaining about his crimes against cinema. What a loser I was.

a webpage?thats soo 1990's..:rolleyes:
Now a days you would make a Bebo band page against McG....

moleyC

Probably a bit over the top in my book, but maybe this would have never escalated if McG had kept an eye on the DP who had obviously been getting on Bale's wick.

Remove the fact that he is a highly paid actor which some of you mention in a way that should make it worse and try to mirror the situation to a more common work place environment. Say for example I had been working on an important presentation and someone acidently deleted it from my computer, I would flip the lid TBH, probably not in such a big way but couple with the fact that it seemed to have been a big scene and he may be a method actor who spends great deal of time preparing, plus probably being somewhat still in character his reaction is not as outrageous as some of you feel it is.

However I do feel that McG should have chimed in before Bale or at least after Bale's first sentence.

Also the rant did seem to go on for quite a bit but you just don't know, the young DP could of been putting on a big Vicky Polard petulant face on.

BlitzKrieg

I had been working on an important presentation and someone acidently deleted it from my computer

Not a good comparison, in that example somone went and broke something, there is clear fault. In the situation with Bale, the DP was doing his job, and as how he put it so tastefully, its a matter of if he was being a professional or not about doing it. And even then we dont know if it was a necessary tinker, if he had the directors approval etc.


A better comparison would be you have a big meeting coming up and you need to get a certain file for it, but a co worker as currently going through the filling cabinet thats it in and is taking his sweet time.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Jesus Juice wrote: »

a webpage?thats soo 1990's..:rolleyes:
Now a days you would make a Bebo band page against McG....

I didn't do it recently, it was 5-6 years ago. Some time before Bebo and the likes were invented.

moleyC

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Not a good comparison, in that example somone went and broke something, there is clear fault. In the situation with Bale, the DP was doing his job, and as how he put it so tastefully, its a matter of if he was being a professional or not about doing it. And even then we dont know if it was a necessary tinker, if he had the directors approval etc.


A better comparison would be you have a big meeting coming up and you need to get a certain file for it, but a co worker as currently going through the filling cabinet thats it in and is taking his sweet time.

I know, not really a good example, but just try to imagine someone messing up something you had worked hard on

Standard Toaster

The anagram of 'Alec Guinness' is 'genuine class'.

The anagram of 'Christian Bale' is 'labia chin rest'.

Coincidence?

4zn76tysfajdxp

The_Edge wrote: »

The anagram of 'Alec Guinness' is 'genuine class'.

The anagram of 'Christian Bale' is 'labia chin rest'.

Coincidence?

No. That's not even the opposite of a coincidence. It's nothing.

Biggins

Is Christian Bale a good actor? Probably...
Has he got anger management issues sometimes? Probably...
Did he overreact? Possibly...
Did the DP deserve it? Yes! BUT from THEE head man. Bale had clear right to take his complaint there.
Should McG have tighter control over his staff and should be THEE one barking at the DP - DEFINITELY

Bale should (in a perfect world) have counted to ten and took his complaint to McG.
Quick temper, loud rude voice and the rest is history...

That don't excuse the DP who according to work record was/is a possible twat anyway - apparently!

davyjose

Biggins wrote: »

Did the DP deserve it? Yes!

No he didn't. If your boss spoke to you like that you'd have him in front of HR, and rightly so.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

He went ott... way ott.

I can understand getting annoyed at something like this, as I tend to lose my temper also, but that was unreal. Egotystical smuck.

Biggins

davyjose wrote: »

No he didn't. If your boss spoke to you like that you'd have him in front of HR, and rightly so.

I'll clarify my words.

He did deserve a good telling off but he should have gotten it from the head man, not bale direct in the extreme fashion it was.

Overheal

Stephen Colbert just spent 15 minutes ripping the piss out of the Bale incident. I'll throw up the link when it gets uploaded. Also, steve martin is a banjo god...

fizzynicenice

davyjose wrote: »

No he didn't. [deserve it] If your boss spoke to you like that you'd have him in front of HR, and rightly so.

Your boss isn't Batman though.
And No matter how much anyone wants to believe that it dosen't, that makes a huge difference.
Someone like Bale would have no trouble in burning a DP with much of the industry.
On another note, my opinion of Bale remains un-tarnished. I only ever loved him as an actor, if his personality is a put off for anyone then they are looking at the wrong things, and would be better suited to some "radio-friendly" celebrities. Try Stephen Fry, He's absolutly delightful.