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Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency?

  • 28-01-2009 11:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭


    Simple Question plain and clear. Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency? not so much to say on the same ground as let say the CIA or the KGB, but an intelliegence agency so that Ireland knows whats going on around the world and isn't kept in the dark


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Branch

    That's the Garda unit that deals with national security. Biggins handles any "other" operations that need doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Simple Question plain and clear. Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency? not so much to say on the same ground as let say the CIA or the KGB, but an intelliegence agency so that Ireland knows whats going on around the world and isn't kept in the dark

    Would you want our government knowing what's going on in the world? We recalled every last bit of pork because of a tiny, tiny chance of someone getting sick... Imagine how we'd react to something actually dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I'm not sure if they DOSE or DOSENT

    If you're their leader trying to leak their existence to the masses you're not making a good first impression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Simple Question plain and clear. Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency? not so much to say on the same ground as let say the CIA or the KGB, but an intelliegence agency so that Ireland knows whats going on around the world and isn't kept in the dark

    RTE... they be hardcore....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Would you want our government knowing what's going on in the world? We recalled every last bit of pork because of a tiny, tiny chance of someone getting sick... Imagine how we'd react to something actually dangerous.

    You mean like Terrorism? aren't the known terrorists who have links to Al Queda living in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Yes, Special Branch and Military Intelligence(Oxymoron). (AFAIK our MI is called G2, but don't quote me on that!!!)


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    And probably not.
    Yes, Special Branch and Military Intelligence(Oxymoron). (AFAIK our MI is called G2, but don't quote me on that!!!)

    Oh .. sh1t, sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    yer man run_to_da_hills is in charge of it, isn't he?

    The_citizen is his enforcer :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency?

    It'd be down on you like a tonne of bricks if there was:rolleyes:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Its not so much as an agency but as an office that keeps the Irish military advised as to on going situations or ones that might arise.
    We are talking here of G2 - see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G2_(Republic_of_Ireland)

    The office keeps minsters and the head current twat apprised of various situations, etc.
    He once in a while imposes scenarios to mull over, to them and they come back with answers he usually don't want to hear and goes off and does his own feckin thing.
    There is some other things they do but that is beyond the normal scope that can be publicised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    There are not any secret agencies in Ireland. So don't ask questions about this again.

    Or else...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    F.U.B.I.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    I think the last budget estimate was around 1million for this department. So thats 1 Aston with hidden machine guns, a mobile phone (sponsored by Nokia), a small office in Glasnevin and a hotline to Cowen (the most unbelievable part of this thread) in case of national emergency.....if only Cowen had a few of those phones on his desk for national emergencies, like the one we're in now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Would you want our government knowing what's going on in the world? We recalled every last bit of pork because of a tiny, tiny chance of someone getting sick... Imagine how we'd react to something actually dangerous.

    They'd just recall all the terrorists.

    *Boom*


    Problem sorted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Dont the G2 lads carry Uzis as standard ?
    Ive also heard that the G2 have had run ins and power struggles with top brass in the Special Branch on occasion.
    AFAIK they are heavily dependent on MI5/6 intelligence to find out what exactly is going on in the world of spooks and subversion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    G2 look after the Int. side of things and they're very capable at their jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    RATM wrote: »
    Dont the G2 lads carry Uzis as standard ?

    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Poccington wrote: »
    No.

    If not Uzis then what?


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭phenomenon


    Ireland is wide open to attack by terrorists. Garda special branch is a joke - bunch of culchie knobs from Carlow fiddling around with a PC, trying to figure out how to set up their dial-up internet connection.

    I reckon I could assasinate the Taoiseach tomorrow if I wanted. And theres nothing our "intelligence agencies" can do about it. Even if I express my intentions openly on an internet forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    phenomenon wrote: »
    Ireland is wide open to attack by terrorists. Garda special branch is a joke - bunch of culchie knobs from Carlow fiddling around with a PC, trying to figure out how to set up their dial-up internet connection.

    I reckon I could assasinate the Taoiseach tomorrow if I wanted. And theres nothing our "intelligence agencies" can do about it. Even if I express my intentions openly on an internet forum.

    Then why havent you?

    The special branch and so on so forth are probably good at what they do. Years of monitoring terrorists have probably left them pretty professional.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Then why havent you?

    He hasn't quite finished building the grassy knoll yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭phenomenon


    Then why havent you?

    Please read my post. I said I could if I wanted to. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he'll be attending the Dáil. A sniper shot to the dome would take him out. Or even wait at the gates for him with a hatchet. I reckon I could also post the exact time I was going to assasinate him and the pig brigade still couldn't stop me.

    No worries though, I won't be wacking Biffo anytime soon. I'd only be doing that príck Enda Kenny a favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    If everyone already knows about our secret service surely it's already failed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    phenomenon wrote: »
    Please read my post. I said I could if I wanted to. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he'll be attending the Dáil. A sniper shot to the dome would take him out. Or even wait at the gates for him with a hatchet. I reckon I could also post the exact time I was going to assasinate him and the pig brigade still couldn't stop me.

    No worries though, I won't be wacking Biffo anytime soon. I'd only be doing that príck Enda Kenny a favour.

    Where from? ^^

    I doubt it'd be too hard in this country, but I doubt you'd get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    Biggins wrote: »

    That's because we're not really a threat to anybody and so have never been attacked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency?

    Yes. Isn't it called the I.I.I.I.I?

    The Irish Intelligence Institute of the Island of Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    jiltloop wrote: »
    If everyone already knows about our secret service surely it's already failed?

    Secret service is not the same as Clandestine Service.

    I will say no more about this.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭esskay


    Biggins wrote: »

    It would not bother me if it was only the U.S. that they help monitor.....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭IRISH RAIL


    G2 is a military intelligence not a secret service
    the closest in Ireland is the c3 crime and security division which operates from the Phoenix park
    one of the only departments to give money back from there budget and are quite sucsessful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    First rule of G2 is you do not talk about G2
    Second rule of G2 is you do not talk about G2
    and the third rule of G2 is..... and so on :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 dtwhaler


    Does Ireland have an intellegence agency ........................?

    Does Ireland have any feckin intelligence !?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Simple Question plain and clear. Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency? not so much to say on the same ground as let say the CIA or the KGB, but an intelliegence agency so that Ireland knows whats going on around the world and isn't kept in the dark

    yes... boards.ie/Afterhours*

    * - not the actual link... see we are Smrt... so smrt


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R



    nah, thats a P0xey-moron :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    You mean like Terrorism? aren't the known terrorists who have links to Al Queda living in Ireland?

    We talk about Irish intelligence relying on MI5/MI6, that's worrying. These are the same people who were monitoring 3 of the 4 suicide bombers responsible for the attacks in London on July 7 2005! They didn't think they were a serious threat so reduced surveillance :rolleyes:
    The French Intelligence services used to refer to Britain as 'Britainistan' because of the amount of Muslim terrorists living in Britain and launching attacks in France. At that time the British government were so concerned with the IRA that they figured it wasn't their job to go after terrorists that weren't any threat to them. Karma!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Poccington wrote: »
    G2 look after the Int. side of things and they're very capable at their jobs.

    A man in the know? Cheers Séamus Ceangal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭madmik


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Simple Question plain and clear. Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency? not so much to say on the same ground as let say the CIA or the KGB, but an intelliegence agency so that Ireland knows whats going on around the world and isn't kept in the dark

    Irelands Government doesnt have any intelligence whatsoever

    not the agency kind or any other kind.

    They get their inteligence from watching bbc news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭colly10


    RATM wrote: »
    If not Uzis then what?


    :pac:

    Hurleys


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭madmik


    colly10 wrote: »
    Hurleys

    +ford mondeos+newspapers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Anyone remember a post office robbery on the Lower Rathmines Road back in the late '90s? Supposed to have been set up by Garda intelligence so they could interview some guy queueing up for his dole. Bet the CIA don't do that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Nolanger wrote: »
    ...Bet the CIA don't do that.
    No? Its just that they do it better and don't get possibly linked to such actions.

    The CIA don't bring down Post Offices - they bring down countries!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Biggins wrote: »
    No? Its just that they do it better and don't get possibly linked to such actions.

    The CIA don't bring down Post Offices - they bring down countries!

    Nicely Put.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Nicely Put.
    i once worked for a large american company in manchester in security,as all the managers were american [this was about the same time the terrorists hit new york] my top bosses were from the FBI, they would turn up twice a year to check on me,this to me was great fun as soon as i spotted them i would say --daffodils are yellow this year- and they allways pretended to be pissed off -the daft thing is the pair of them dressed in black suits and ties-just like on films


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Dose Ireland have an intelligence agency?
    No, but we have plenty of Unintelligence Agencies...boom boom!

    Not surprising considering we don't have an Air Force capable of rapid interception...but there ya go, shure who'd be bothered bombing little old us when the money is better spent on storage facilities for unused voting machines and making sure our leader is paid more than Barack Omaba.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    Maybe we should ask O'Bama to be our Taoiseach....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Maybe we should ask O'Bama to be our Taoiseach....

    That's a great idea. In one swift move of upper management, we get to triple the I.Q. of our leader.

    I'm up for it. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    The guy wrote: »
    That's because we're not really a threat to anybody and so have never been attacked.
    Going to get flamed for this...

    Ireland is a huge threat, in a certain way. One reason we were occupied by Britain in the past: To prevent us being used as a base by another country to attack Britain. One main reason we never had to worry about invasions since becoming independent: We are "an unsinkable aircraft carrier" right off the coast of Britain and Western Europe - Both would defend us to counter the threat to themselves.

    Our geographical location still makes us an ideal location for a military base. The mere possibility of being used as one led to us being occupied before. Now we are letting ourselves be used as a military base. This is not a good idea.

    Hey! Just to make *absolutely* certain we get attacked, lets take a few hundred suspected terrorists that the USA have been abusing for the last few years! They'll like us because - well hey we're irish - and barack obama is such a cool dude that all of a sudden everyone's going to love each other and forget that whole blind hatred thing they've had going on.

    The Irish policy of neutrality made a whole lot of sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    The guy wrote: »
    That's because we're not really a threat to anybody and so have never been attacked.
    if you want to believe that dont read this----www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982170/posts


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