US FEMA "Martial Law" camps are on the way as new HR 645 Bill is proposed.

Run_to_da_hills

A new bill has been introduced by Alcee Hastings in the U.S. House of Representatives called the "National Emergency Centers Act" or HR 645. This bill if passed into law will direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers otherwise known as FEMA camp facilities on military installations.

This is an incredibly disturbing piece of legislation considering that the powers that be have already set in motion an agenda to setup a nationwide marital law apparatus through U.S. Northern Command and the Department of Homeland Security. Apparently, the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough

What riots we saw in Iceland may be minuscule to what could be in store in the US.

Text of the new HR 645 Bill.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

WhaLofShi

This guy Hastings seems to have a very interesting career behind him. Not exactly what you would believe to be your average NWO type.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_Hastings

although this line is strange considering he's a black Democrat.

wikipedia wrote:

He was one of the 31 who voted in the House not to count the electoral votes from Ohio in the 2004 presidential election.[5]

Mahatma coat

Lads, bandying about the term Concentration Camp will rise a few feathers beofer the thread even starts. see if you can come up with a better term.


no one here ever referred to Mosney as a Concentration camp, although thats what it was;)

Nick_oliveri

Am I missing something? These facilities are to be used for national emergencies. We all witnessed how they reacted to New Orleans, with what happened there.

nationwide marital law apparatus

Show us where it says that.

Run_to_da_hills

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Lads, bandying about the term Concentration Camp will rise a few feathers beofer the thread even starts. see if you can come up with a better term.


no one here ever referred to Mosney as a Concentration camp, although thats what it was;)

Fixed

bonkey

Anyone else notivce that the thread title suggests the law has been passed, while the OP makes it clear that this is not the case?

Run_to_da_hills

bonkey wrote: »

Anyone else notivce that the thread title suggests the law has been passed, while the OP makes it clear that this is not the case?

Fixed again.

Kernel

Reading about this on ats. I would imagine the bill will go through, as building the concen... err.. National Emergency Centres will create jobs and stimulate the economy. Wonder if Biden's statement about a crisis in February has anything to do with this? Probably not, since the timeline would be wrong once the bill was passed and the centres built.

Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. "And he's going to need help . . . to stand with him. Because it's not going to be apparent initially; it's not going to be apparent that we're right."Sen. Joe Biden, October 19, 2008.

thecommander

Kernel wrote: »

Wonder if Biden's statement about a crisis in February has anything to do with this? Probably not, since the timeline would be wrong once the bill was passed and the centres built.

It'll more than likely be the same as the Jan 22nd prediction

Run_to_da_hills

Mahatma coat

Just read that, nowt to do with FEMA really, more Homeland Security, now ask yerself, why do Homeland Secuity need to have at least 6 Military bases signed over to them?

$180Billion a year, thats 30Billion per base thats a lot of money to implement an emergency plan. which may never be activated.

lots of questions that shouldbe asked here lad rather than the tangent youseem to have started off on.

Run_to_da_hills

Internment Camps Readied For Mass Illegal Alien Influx.

The news that Texas officials are working on contingency plans to deal with a sudden influx of illegal aliens following a collapse of the Mexican government has sparked fears that FEMA detention camps, the expansion of which is the subject of current legislation in Congress, are being readied to detain thousands of illegals as well as American citizens.

http://www.infowars.com/internment-camps-readied-for-mass-illegal-alien-influx/

trentf

guys seriously you crossed over into the nether regions of paranoi. You think the general population is sheep you guys are even bigger sheeple believing in that crap. Yes the us military with number of 1 million members max spread out over 3 branches is going to enslave 300 million americans who are mostly all armed in fema death camps..as well as say 20 - 40 million mexicans.

Lol and whos going to do this the u.s military? Not happening if the us military even left afghanistan the place would fall apart they can't even afford to have their national gaurd out of afghanistan. the u.s population is one of the most heavily armed in the world and even attempting to 'take people at night' would result in massive loss of life for both law enforcement officals or stormtroopers as you guys see them. They wouldn't stand a chance even with superior firepower, they just would be so outnumbered.

Theres 3 guns for evey american alive and many have stored multiple arms away. And you just think members of the military are going to enslave their relatives and brothers more likely they will turn on the government and kill them. Just a bit of common sense.. eh You must think people are really really stupid.
With today's level of video camera's on phones and widespread communication methods what you think they are just going to round up say 10 -15 million people during the night without people knowing. Come on ffs thats downright laughable.
There are far more effective and sneaky ways to kill mass groups of people then outright confrontation, rounding up and starving a group of heavily armed civillians. You guys have been watching and reading too many survivalists blogs and videos on the net about the nwo admit it.

those so called fema death camps have also been disproven by various sources and video sources if you care to look them up. Ever wonder why you can never get the smoking gun your looking for or never seems to happen. Thats right because it doesn't exist. If the nwo wanted to kill us and rule over a smaller more docile group of humanezees they would have done it a long time ago when we had less forms of communication and less access to arms.

Alex jones and co have you fooled like they once had me with their crap until you start realising without a devout core of believers well see mr jones can't make money off his little dvd's or his advertisement money on his radio station.

Run_to_da_hills

trentf wrote: »

Alex jones and co have you fooled like they once had me with their crap until you start realizing without a devout core of believers well see Mr jones can't make money off his little dvd's or his advertisement money on his radio station.

Hitler had 6,000,000 Jews fooled. :rolleyes:

(He also didn't have the sophisticated digital surveillance, logistics & track n' trace smartcard technology at his disposal.)

K-9

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Hitler had 6,000,000 Jews fooled. :rolleyes:

(He also didn't have the sophisticated digital surveillance, logistics & track n' trace smartcard technology at his disposal.)

Godwinned on the first page.

/thread.

Mahatma coat

who said anythingabout roundinthemup, if the Lizzzzzzzards are smart they will convince the sheeple that its in their own best interest to be in one of these camps

Aye Matey!

Mahatma coat wrote: »

who said anythingabout roundinthemup, if the Lizzzzzzzards are smart they will convince the sheeple that its in their own best interest to be in one of these camps

mysterious

Peh lizards.........


If they can twist their own laws, then I can twist the laws the create.

They create a world for sheeple. But this line is now print. Lizards don't make rules for me. Black and white. My word against theres.

They need your reaction. If you don't react they lose your power. It's really that simple. They can propose all the laws they want.

I just won't sit and watch humanity turned into a bunch of baby monitored kids.

You wonder how I say it so simple.

WakeUp

quick google search should bring up plenty of videos of the alleged camps heres what I found.

FEMA Red&Blue list.
read this before you watch the video it might be relevent to it.
http://www.detailshere.com/redbluelists.htm


FEMA Camp Video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4

Map of FEMA camps in the US.
http://www.uaff.us/deathcamps.htm

Global Research
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7763
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

WakeUp

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

A new bill has been introduced by Alcee Hastings in the U.S. House of Representatives called the "National Emergency Centers Act" or HR 645. This bill if passed into law will direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers otherwise known as FEMA camp facilities on military installations.

This is an incredibly disturbing piece of legislation considering that the powers that be have already set in motion an agenda to setup a nationwide marital law apparatus through U.S. Northern Command and the Department of Homeland Security. Apparently, the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough

What riots we saw in Iceland may be minuscule to what could be in store in the US.

Text of the new HR 645 Bill.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

Spot on rundahills this is bad news indeed.

mysterious

This is nuts!!!

Why are people sitting back and allowing this to happen.


I seriously cant believe im reading this and reading my own lines at this stage. It just will not work.

shayser

"can you do mass graves, guv?"
http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/11/inside-source-reveals-fema-dhs-prepairing-for-mass-graves-and-martial-law-near-chicago/

WakeUp

mysterious wrote: »

This is nuts!!!

Why are people sitting back and allowing this to happen.


I seriously cant believe im reading this and reading my own lines at this stage. It just will not work.

these camps have been built largely away from the glare of the general public with little or no real publicity slowly but surely people will eventually see through the veil.

WakeUp

shayser wrote: »

"can you do mass graves, guv?"
http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/11/inside-source-reveals-fema-dhs-prepairing-for-mass-graves-and-martial-law-near-chicago/

talk about sleeping with the enemy they have all the information they could ever need if these meetings are true, lets hope there are some good people left in positions of power prepared to actually do something.

nyarlothothep

K-9 wrote: »

Godwinned on the first page.

/thread.

kernelled

espinolman

Is that a concentration camp underneath Denver International Airport !


Denver International Airport Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmy0PMgm-Q0

WakeUp

could Mexico be the trigger for a martial law declaration in the US?..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491964,00.html

480905

Bush Link to Kennedy Assassination Alex Jones 911 Conspiracy

very interesting

meglome

480905 wrote: »

Bush Link to Kennedy Assassination Alex Jones 911 Conspiracy

very interesting

Why?

WakeUp

FEMA National Level Exercise 2009 (NLE09) is due to take place July of this year it seems to be pretty big this time around involving many of the various agencies tasked with law enforcement. There will be international agencies involved aswell.
http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm



FEMA Designated regions US.
http://www.parrinspections.com/DisasterLoc.asp



http://www.firegrantsupport.com/prog/contact.aspx




http://gacc.nifc.gov/eacc/logistics/all_risk/all_risk.htm





http://www.ndpc.us/about_ndpc.html
http://www.twotigersonline.com/


Reported camps in the US.


Some FEMA related photos...

thecommander

Are you turning into Rub for the hills? Posting a list of images doesn't explain anything

espinolman

Wake Up it's great you posted those images' , thanks .

bonkey

What, exactly is great about them?

I ask because the first and second are the same information, which is also in the third, whilst the fifth onwards have apparently nothing to do with anything.

"Here is a photograph of a tower".
Here is another photograph, this time of two towers.
Here'a a picture of a tower behind barbed wire.

I mean...seriously...what exactly is great about this? Do you really think that anonymous pictures without anything but implied relevence actually add something to the discussion?

Nick_oliveri

I think there should be a rule against it tbh. Its adding nothing to the discussion and we are seeing more of it lately.

Someone posts anon picture
Others go WTF
People joke about it
Demand explanation
and repeat.

Btw several previous posts (including mine) have nothing to give to the discussion. Thread tangents FTL.

bonkey

There's a thread for discussion of the charter, Nick.

Run_to_da_hills

"Fema Coffins" large plastic caskets made by the millions have been discovered at various compounds throughout the United States. Numbers too large to conceal.!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wV3vc9kDEM

This Video was uploaded in July 2008, two months before the Economic crash of September and mentions the March 13Th Secret Meeting, economic crash and the forthcoming civil strife after the US economy collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPgpK0uHfk

Now you know where your recycled plastic ends up. :eek:

humanji

Still don't understand why they make them so big.

Run_to_da_hills

humanji wrote: »

Still don't understand why they make them so big.

Fema coffins would be no more than a short term dumpster for the storage of dead bodies. It would make sense to have standard size to assist with the logistics of storage and shipping. It is also possible to cram up to three bodies into one coffin.

meglome

So in a big disaster where should they put the bodies? I not seeing the problem again it seems.

espinolman

meglome wrote: »

So in a big disaster where should they put the bodies? I not seeing the problem again it seems.

I watched the first video run to da hills has posted and it says in the video that they are crematorium boxes .

WakeUp

bonkey wrote: »

What, exactly is great about them?

I ask because the first and second are the same information, which is also in the third, whilst the fifth onwards have apparently nothing to do with anything.

"Here is a photograph of a tower".
Here is another photograph, this time of two towers.
Here'a a picture of a tower behind barbed wire.

I mean...seriously...what exactly is great about this? Do you really think that anonymous pictures without anything but implied relevence actually add something to the discussion?

Ill reply to you Bonkey I know other people are asking questions but I think you covered everything. I accept I should of maybe included some information with the photos.

The first report is about the FEMA National exercise taking place in July of this year which looks fairly big involving most of the various agencies.

The coloured maps are the designated FEMA regions should a national emergency or martial law be declared, the links are to some of the forces involved in the exercise.

The map of the US with blue markers in certain areas are alleged FEMA camps.

The two watch towers are from the reported FEMA camp, Camp Grayling, Michigan.



This photo is of an alleged FEMA facility in Central Wyoming. Heres the rest of the reported camp.







The chopper and the Storm troopers on the armoured vehicle are from the FEMA response to hurricane Katrina , NO.



The picture of the train is one of the alleged people carriers belonging to FEMA.

This video is from youtube its only thirty seconds long its a reported photo from inside one of the trains showing padded seats on either side and what appear to be shackles on the floor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gthaNAkt5VY

Theres a chap called Texe Marrs hes a minister in the US. Story goes like this a couple of members of his congregation were out one day driving and they seen one of these trains which to them seemed odd so they stopped for a look.

They claim to have taken photos of inside the train which seem to look very similar to the video on youtube Marrs claims to have those original photos.

You dont need the watch the video is 82 mins if you want to see it just forward to 1:04:00 you can see the photos and an explanation to how he came by them.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=texe+marrs+concentration+camps&emb=0&aq=f#

These trains seem to look like the alleged FEMA trains on the outside albeit with a nice coat of white paint cant tell for certain whats on the inside though I hopes its certainly not shackles!!.

These are just some of things Ive came across reading up on FEMA the motivations behind the camps we cant know for sure but its better to be aware of them than not imo. If I post any more pics or whatever Ill make sure to include a description with them.

DubTony

Here's what gets me.
Let's imagine for a minute that martial law is declared across the USA. So, all the necessary executive orders are supposedly already in place including one that seemingly says that the government can can take control of all transportation (including private cars). Red and blue list people are the first to be "taken out". Then comes the logistical nightmare of simply getting everyone else into a camp.

Now let's just say that some way or another 70% of the American population has been wiped out and this martial law ensues. That leaves somewhere in the region of 70-100 million people to be rounded up. OK, so if we imagine that the logistical strategy has been considered and it's possible that the rounding up and interning of 70 million, pff, lets call it 20 million people, can be achieved, who's going to do the job? Will American soldiers turn their guns on the ordinary man and woman in the street? Will American soldiers shoot at children?

OK, let's consider that over time, the US military has recruited foreign people into it's ranks. And consider that these foreign soldiers have no qualms about shooting innocent Americans and rounding them up there is still the issue of the good old true blue yank army man. Would he actually allow the foreign guys to shoot the very people he has sworn to protect? It also brings up what was raised earlier in the thread. There are as may guns in the states as there are rats.

OK, so if somehow the government manages to pass a law banning all guns, and the ordinary citizens of the USA hand over there weapons, how many guns will the criminals and militia have? I believe that the founders enshrined the right in the constitution, for groups to organise themselves as militia. (If I'm wrong about that, I'm sure I'll be corrected.) These people will never give up their weapons.

So, based on all that ( and I could add a lot more) how on earth can the NWO people realistically expect to imprison even 5% of the American population? If 1% of Americans were left outside, that would be over 2 and a half million people. If only 20% of those decided that "this sh*t ain't gonna happen in my country", that would mean that there would be a resistance of half a million active, armed, patriotic AMURIKANS willing to fight to the death to "save" their country.

The whole thing seems outrageously implausible. But I have another, equally ridiculous theory. Sit down. This is horrific.

The NWO people have no intention of interning the people of America. The camps are there to protect those seen as valuable, or useful. Protect from what? The only thing that makes sense is this. The biggest genocide ever seen in the history of mankind. Somehow, the plan would have to be to erradicate most of the population of the USA in one fell swoop while ensuring that the useful people are kept safe.

Neither theory makes any sense.

Sofa_King Good

DubTony wrote: »

Here's what gets me.
.

There is over 62 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan with a fraction of the US military force and without the established chains of control in existence.

Resistance relatively quashed. what does that tell you?

espinolman

DubTony wrote: »

Then comes the logistical nightmare of simply getting everyone else into a camp.

Getting people into the camps is the easy part , just put the food there ,where the economy collapses and there is no food in the shops people will do anything to get food , they will beg to get into the fema camps .

Run_to_da_hills

espinolman wrote: »

Getting people into the camps is the easy part , just put the food there ,where the economy collapses and there is no food in the shops people will do anything to get food , they will beg to get into the fema camps .

Take a look at the following list of executive orders. The constitution of the United States will be overridden when a "fitting event" should arise and martial law is declared by the government and FEMA. The government can then seize your property including food and water!

The government can seize you!

EO 10900
Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.

EO 10995
Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EO 10997
Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

EO 10998
Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EO 11000
Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EO 11001
Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.

EO 11002
Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.

EO 11003
Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EO 11004
Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EO 11005
Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

EO 11051
Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EO 11310
Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EO 11049
Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EO 11921
Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

Source: http://freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm

humanji

Would I be insane to ask if there's a source of those orders that isn't a conspiracy website?

Run_to_da_hills

humanji wrote: »

Would I be insane to ask if there's a source of those orders that isn't a conspiracy website?

Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Functions, October 11, 2004

The All the EOs listed above fall under EO 12919

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Establishing_martial_law_in_the_United_States

Sofa_King Good

humanji wrote: »

Would I be insane to ask if there's a source of those orders that isn't a conspiracy website?

EO 10900 was revoked by EO 12220
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-orders-11.html

EO 122220
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12220.html

The rest can be referenced there too.

humanji

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Functions, October 11, 2004

The All the EOs listed above fall under EO 12919

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Establishing_martial_law_in_the_United_States

That site isn't much better. The links for the executive orders lead to a religious site. I was kind of hoping for something official.

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

EO 10900 was revoked by EO 12220
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-orders-11.html

EO 122220
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12220.html

The rest can be referenced there too.

This is exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, most orders aren't explained. I might blast off an email to them.

Run_to_da_hills

humanji wrote: »

That site isn't much better. The links for the executive orders lead to a religious site. I was kind of hoping for something official. This is exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, most orders aren't explained. I might blast off an email to them.

Click on the EO link of each number, it will take you to the official federal document.

humanji

That just brings you to the Mellenium-arc.net site