For those that know how much they can bicep curl....

shamblertine

how much weight can you lift for this exercise, when doing it with 1 arm with a dumbell? Also state your height and weight to keep things in prospective. I genuinely want to know what sort of weights people lift for this relative to their weight, so please serious responses only, or this thread will be locked like the last one and bans will be handed out by the mods.

Me: 10 Kgs, Height 5'11, Weight 11.5 stone

AARRRGH

How many reps?

shamblertine

AARRRGH wrote: »

How many reps?

just state the weight and how many reps you do in a set, or your one rep max

Pugsley

Why bicep curl? The bicep is a tiny muscle, and the bicep curl is a poor guage of strength, especially considering the difference between a rep with good form and one thats swung like a pendulum. If your looking to guage strength deadlift or squat would be far better.

pepsicokeacola

35 kg and im only 17. 8 reps

Mr. Incognito

Strange request.

I'd curl 12.5 kg, 5'8 about 10 stone, three sets of ten reps.

podge57

me curling 70kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdpL7cNWMmk

dioltas

Edit: Reread op. That wasn't really a serious post... so I used to curl with the EZ bar with 12.5 on each side for 3 sets of 8.
Gave up curls though, started doing pullups instead for the aul biceps.

AARRRGH

podge57 wrote: »

me curling 70kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdpL7cNWMmk

In fairness, you're swinging the weight and appear to be using quite a lot of muscles other than your bicep.

Still impressive though!

the drifter

podge57 wrote: »

me curling 70kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdpL7cNWMmk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOPbMziQVEM your not bad on the drums either!!!:D

and to make the post legal...i can curl 20-25kg bells for 4 sets of 8 reps but have very little interest in doing so!

if you wanna curl hammer curl it man!!!

g'em

podge57 wrote: »

me curling 70kg

You know you're onto a winner when you wear a belt to curl...

the drifter

g'em wrote: »

You know you're onto a winner when you wear a belt to curl...

is it a curl though... there a bit of a snatch about that curl.....i think???

podge57

i hope everyone knows that wasnt really me

i forgot how hard it is to portray sarcasm online :P

AARRRGH

podge57 wrote: »

i hope everyone knows that wasnt really me

i forgot how hard it is to portray sarcasm online :P

Haha ok. :pac:

the drifter

podge57 wrote: »

i hope everyone knows that wasnt really me

i forgot how hard it is to portray sarcasm online :P

im sorry podge....but im forever going to know you as that lad with the curls!!!:P

g'em

the drifter wrote: »

is it a curl though... there a bit of a snatch about that curl.....i think???

Well spotted - there's definitely a touch of a narrow stance power snatch in there. Functional.

the drifter

g'em wrote: »

Well spotted - there's definitely a touch of a narrow stance power snatch in there. Functional.

so were classing thats as a one handed narrow stance power snatch---assisted because of the belt and holding onto the machine?

Vegeta

podge57 wrote: »

i hope everyone knows that wasnt really me

i forgot how hard it is to portray sarcasm online :P

I gotcha dude don't worry

Anyone else think the gym in the video looks like a JCB factory

sunnyjim

I was thinking legoland myself!

deadhead13

Slightly off topic, but I remember reading once that only a small percentage of the population can bench press their own weight. So if can do that your doing well.

_Nuno_

podge57 wrote: »

me curling 70kg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdpL7cNWMmk

EDIT:just saw quoted post was a joke

Hanley

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the drifter wrote: »

so were classing thats as a one handed narrow stance power snatch---assisted because of the belt and holding onto the machine?

More of a 1-hand powerclean surely???

Curl PR with a bar = 62.5kg x7
Hammer Curls (going across my body) = 20kg 'dumbbells x25 I think.

Degsy

Watch this if you wanna be like me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49g-BluVG7I&feature=related

WHIP IT!

Degsy wrote: »

Watch this if you wanna be like me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49g-BluVG7I&feature=related

Degsy Man, how on earth did you come by that?? The weird sh*t people put on youtube, I ask ya...

shamblertine

Pugsley wrote: »

Why bicep curl? The bicep is a tiny muscle, and the bicep curl is a poor guage of strength, especially considering the difference between a rep with good form and one thats swung like a pendulum. If your looking to guage strength deadlift or squat would be far better.

Yeah but I know what sort of weights I should be lifting in the core exercises, but just had no idea how good or bad I was at this exercise in comparison to others, so just wanted to see. Also the bicep curl uses other muscles too like the tricep, the forearm, and shoulder. My legs are massive from doing deadlifts and squats, but my arms are so weedy so I'm going to put more focus on arm exercises for the next month or two.

Hanley

shamblertine wrote: »

Yeah but I know what sort of weights I should be lifting in the core exercises, but just had no idea how good or bad I was at this exercise in comparison to others, so just wanted to see. Also the bicep curl uses other muscles too like the tricep, the forearm, and shoulder. My legs are massive from doing deadlifts and squats, but my arms are so weedy so I'm going to put more focus on arm exercises for the next month or two.

Massive legs.... triceps being used in curls...

This thread's finally living up to its promise.

podge57

shamblertine wrote: »

Yeah but I know what sort of weights I should be lifting in the core exercises, but just had no idea how good or bad I was at this exercise in comparison to others, so just wanted to see. Also the bicep curl uses other muscles too like the tricep, the forearm, and shoulder. My legs are massive from doing deadlifts and squats, but my arms are so weedy so I'm going to put more focus on arm exercises for the next month or two.

it shouldnt if youre doing them right
edit: actually, even if youre doing them wrong, i still cant think of how you would manage to use your triceps...

and i wouldnt call it a core exercise either, just because you see everyone doing them in the gym doesnt mean theyre important

shamblertine

podge57 wrote: »

it shouldnt if youre doing them right
edit: actually, even if youre doing them wrong, i still cant think of how you would manage to use your triceps...

and i wouldnt call it a core exercise either, just because you see everyone doing them in the gym doesnt mean theyre important

I wasn't calling bicep curls a core exercise, I meant deadlifts/squats/bench press/shoulder press are core exercises.

When you are bringing the dumbell down to the starting position you are using your tricep, ok your not hitting it as hard as the bicep, but it is still being used.

Hanley

shamblertine wrote: »

I wasn't calling bicep curls a core exercise, I meant deadlifts/squats/bench press/shoulder press are core exercises.

When you are bringing the dumbell down to the starting position you are using your tricep, ok your not hitting it as hard as the bicep, but it is still being used.

When I lifted my arm up to scratch my head in the process of trying to understand your logic, I didn't call it a shoulder exercise.

Tell us, how does the act of curling improve the size or strength of your tricep?

shamblertine

Hanley wrote: »

Tell us, how does the act of curling improve the size or strength of your tricep?

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

podge57

shamblertine wrote: »

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

thats more due to gravity than anything - there is no resistance, its going to come down regardless - all you are doing is straightening your arm

corribdude

shamblertine wrote: »

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

There are 3 ways to work your muslce - concentric, eccentric and isometric. When you are lowering the weight of a bicep curl you are working the eccentric (negatives). Its still your bicep doing the work as it is the bicep that is resisting gravity pulling the weight towards the ground. Your tricep has no work to do.

Hanley

shamblertine wrote: »

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

If you think you're training your tricep when you're doing curls you seriously need to reevaluate what you think you know.

Of course your tricep is "working" to an extent, insofar as scratching your balls requires more than just your fingers, but it's not the sort of overload that will provide ANY adaptation.

Zamboni

shamblertine wrote: »

Yeah but I know what sort of weights I should be lifting in the core exercises, but just had no idea how good or bad I was at this exercise in comparison to others, so just wanted to see. Also the bicep curl uses other muscles too like the tricep, the forearm, and shoulder. My legs are massive from doing deadlifts and squats, but my arms are so weedy so I'm going to put more focus on arm exercises for the next month or two.

The shoulder? In a bicep curl?

dioltas

shamblertine wrote: »

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

Sorry man, but your wrong. Even if you did loads of negitive curls, starting at the top and slowly lowering the weight it's your biceps that would feel it (not that there's any point in doing this. Your muscles can only contract. It's your biceps that slow the weight on the way down.

corribdude wrote:

There are 3 ways to work your muslce - concentric, eccentric and isometric. When you are lowering the weight of a bicep curl you are working the eccentric (negatives). Its still your bicep doing the work as it is the bicep that is resisting gravity pulling the weight towards the ground. Your tricep has no work to do.

+1

shamblertine

i think we'll just have to agree to disagree

madmik

the bicep curl is the strength test of the idiot


90% of people who know nothing about exercise spend their timme doing either bicep curls,bench presses or the pec dec machine

all have their pllace in a program but theres much better exercises to maximise your gym time

anyway im 80kg and i can curl 20kg

podge57

shamblertine wrote: »

i think we'll just have to agree to disagree

or maybe you should realise you are wrong...

Hanley

shamblertine wrote: »

I've already said, when you bring your arm back down to the starting position you are hitting the tricep as well as the bicep. Do you honestly think that you are using 1 muscle only in that exercise?

Still waiting to hear how training your biceps provides adaptive stress for your triceps....

shamblertine wrote: »

i think we'll just have to agree to disagree

Nah, don't think so.

dioltas

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBCurl.html

shamblertine wrote: »

i think we'll just have to agree to disagree

Suppose we will.

I can't wait to hit the bench later, it really targets my back and biceps :rolleyes:

Hanley

dioltas wrote: »

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBCurl.html



Suppose we will.

I can't wait to hit the bench later, it really targets my back and biceps :rolleyes:

You'd be surprised how much back involvement there is in the bench when you want there to be....

shamblertine

Hanley wrote: »

Still waiting to hear how training your biceps provides adaptive stress for your triceps....



Nah, don't think so.

Ok then we'll just have to agree to disagree to agree to disagree. Anyway I'll ask Marcus Ruhl about this when I get my picture taken with him and I'll record his answer on my phone and post it up here.

corribdude

shamblertine wrote: »

Ok then we'll just have to agree to disagree to agree to disagree. Anyway I'll ask Marcus Ruhl about this when I get my picture taken with him and I'll record his answer on my phone and post it up here.

Are you trolling or what? Post a link to one single page on the net that says bicep curls work your triceps. you wont find one.

shamblertine

corribdude wrote: »

Are you trolling or what? Post a link to one single page on the net that says bicep curls work your triceps. you wont find one.

No, no trolling, please don't get me banned for having a different opinion to other people on here. I don't have time to look online for a website to prove my point.

floggg

Troll....

Hanley

shamblertine wrote: »

Ok then we'll just have to agree to disagree to agree to disagree. Anyway I'll ask Marcus Ruhl about this when I get my picture taken with him and I'll record his answer on my phone and post it up here.

Jesus christ... they're all coming out tonight.

What has Marcus Ruhl got to do with it?? I assume the fact you're getting your picture taken with him lends you some credibility?? How young do you have to be to make an argument like that??

"Hey guys, I'm making a sweeping and blatantly incorrect statement, and you've gotta believe me cos I got bought enough supplements to get my photo taken with a huge bodybuilder"

Pop quiz hotshot, when have you EVER experienced DOMS in your triceps from curling?? Anyone else feel free to jump in if you have.

Why do all tricep exercises EXTEND your arm in some way, while all bicep exercises FLEX it???

They're synergistic muscles. Theywork together, but they do different things. God. How you can still attempt to argue this point in beyond me.

Actually, you're not even arguing it. You're just sticking your fingers in your ears* and going "I'm right. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"




*Does anyone know if that's a bicep or tricep exercise?? :rolleyes:a

An Citeog

Hanley wrote: »

Jesus christ... they're all coming out tonight.

What has Marcus Ruhl got to do with it?? I assume the fact you're getting your picture taken with him lends you some credibility?? How young do you have to be to make an argument like that??

"Hey guys, I'm making a sweeping and blatantly incorrect statement, and you've gotta believe me cos I got bought enough supplements to get my photo taken with a huge bodybuilder"

Pop quiz hotshot, when have you EVER experienced DOMS in your triceps from curling?? Anyone else feel free to jump in if you have.

Why do all tricep exercises EXTEND your arm in some way, while all bicep exercises FLEX it???

They're synergistic muscles. Theywork together, but they do different things. God. How you can still attempt to argue this point in beyond me.

Actually, you're not even arguing it. You're just sticking your fingers in your ears* and going "I'm right. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"




*Does anyone know if that's a bicep or tricep exercise?? :rolleyes:a

Both!:p

Hanley

An Citeog wrote: »

Both!:p

And the world implodes....

Pugsley

Hanley wrote: »

*Does anyone know if that's a bicep or tricep exercise?? :rolleyes:a

Depends on technique, shoulders more so though, bit of forearm work too keeping the finger straight if your really jamming it in too.

floggg wrote:

Troll....

Burn the witch!

quirkster

use logic for the love of god.

how can triceps feasibly be worked from bicep curls?theres no stress placed on them.yes, your tris straighten the arm and your biceps contract it but when you lower the weight, your not using your triceps to do it, your using your biceps to control its descent. NOT THE TRICEP.
thats factual anatomy

shamblertine

Hanley wrote: »

Jesus christ... they're all coming out tonight.

What has Marcus Ruhl got to do with it?? I assume the fact you're getting your picture taken with him lends you some credibility?? How young do you have to be to make an argument like that??

"Hey guys, I'm making a sweeping and blatantly incorrect statement, and you've gotta believe me cos I got bought enough supplements to get my photo taken with a huge bodybuilder"

Pop quiz hotshot, when have you EVER experienced DOMS in your triceps from curling?? Anyone else feel free to jump in if you have.

Why do all tricep exercises EXTEND your arm in some way, while all bicep exercises FLEX it???

They're synergistic muscles. Theywork together, but they do different things. God. How you can still attempt to argue this point in beyond me.

Actually, you're not even arguing it. You're just sticking your fingers in your ears* and going "I'm right. LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"




*Does anyone know if that's a bicep or tricep exercise?? :rolleyes:a

I only experience DOMs when I do squats and deadlifts so that argument is null and void for me. Look I'm not saying I'm 100% correct about this, I could well be wrong, all I know is that when I do the exercise, I can visibly see my tricep expanding and contracting, and I feel resistance and a burn in my tricep when I do it. OK it may not be a huge resistance compared to the burn in my bicep, but its still there none the less.