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What Is Happening To Our Scientists????

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    WakeUp wrote: »
    know something I agree with you if the people in custody are "hitmen" amateurs doesnt even come close to describing them. But what if it was their job to finish them off burn the bodies disgusting as it sounds and get rid of the evidence? what if somebody else interrogated them and then left the scene? People were alerted by a reported explosion in the house, did they try blow the place up or whatever and make a mess of it? Personally I feel there is nothing random about this case. Imo its a well thought out ,cold, brutal targeted murder I think there is much more to this story everything points imo to a targeted killing in some shape or form.
    And what leads you to believe they were targeted by a conspiracy?
    Who would want them dead and why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    King Mob wrote: »
    I still remain unconvinced.
    It's not exactly impossible that scientists die.

    Only 4 of the cases you reference above were actual murders.
    And of those 4 none where in the same field of study. In fact the only thing thats connecting them is the fact they're scientists (actually Robert J Lull was a doctor.)
    Also why would the NWO or what ever kill these scientists?

    There's as much a conspiracy to kill archeologists as there is scientists.

    scientist die all the time its true but if you ask me theres something going on with these people what it is I dont know but something is a miss. Alot of them are involved in some capacity researching infectious disease be it human or animal did each of them find something they shouldnt have that if all put together would paint some overall bigger picture?

    You asked me why the NWO or somebody would kill all these scientists? I can give you a possible explanation but I havent finished researching it properly its deep and I will not be able to break it down or prove it in anyway at least not yet and thats if its true you can never know. Ever hear the claims about target sepcific biological weapons in particualr SARS? Bio weapons targeted at a certain race of people? its alleged they, they meaning the ususal suspects US, Israel, China , Russia etc can make target specific bio weapons specific to a certain race of people. Indonesia blamed the US for the bird flu outbrek saying it was made in their lab. Indonesia is the hardest hit country in the world ( reported 109 deaths) apparently the lab is located here...
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    http://www.nmrc.navy.mil/namru_2.htm

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/indonesian-fears-over-us-navy-laboratory/2008/04/25/1208743252040.html

    http://groups.google.com/group/misc.activism.progressive/browse_thread/thread/f7bb22fda21a1add

    what if these scientist had stumbled upon some sort of link like these new type of viruses that keep appearing are only infecting a certain type of people or the keep originating in Gwendong province , southern China (SARS,HN51,1957 asian flu, 1968 hong kong flu all originated from Gwendong ...I really dont know mob and thats the truth but I think something is going on what it is I dont know...


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    What has not been reported in the media properly, if at all, is that between 1996 & 2008 over 80 of the worlds leading scientists in the fields of biological weapons, virology, biotechnology and microbiology among others have all been murdered, met untimely deaths or disappeared.

    The wording of this suggests that the media should be reporting more on this point.

    I don't mean to imply that there is nothing to report on, but rather question of whether or not there are grounds to believe they should.

    For example...what is the expected number of "untimely" deaths? How do we determine that? Without such a figure, can we really say whether 80 over 12 years (or just over 6.5 a year) is remarkable at all?

    What is the field-size we're talking about? Can we clearly define which scientific areas are allowed to contribute? Would the untimely death of any "ledaing scientist" warrant inclusion, in effect suggesting the field-size of all "leading scientists" (however we define that)?

    I don't believe these questions have been answered, which is why I'd be wary of any suggestion that there is reason to pay attention to these figures, or that there is something remiss in the fact that they haven't been paid sufficient attention by the likes of the media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    WakeUp wrote: »
    scientist die all the time its true but if you ask me theres something going on with these people what it is I dont know but something is a miss. Alot of them are involved in some capacity researching infectious disease be it human or animal
    From your list Robert J Lull was a doctor of nuclear medicine and Geetha Angara worked in water treatment. So that's not true. And again if you look hard enough you can get a similar list for any specialisation. There might be a conspiracy to kill people involved in earthworm research.

    WakeUp wrote: »
    did each of them find something they shouldnt have that if all put together would paint some overall bigger picture?
    Maybe they're all part of the Justice League and were assisinated by the legion of doom.

    WakeUp wrote: »
    You asked me why the NWO or somebody would kill all these scientists? I can give you a possible explanation but I havent finished researching it properly its deep and I will not be able to break it down or prove it in anyway at least not yet and thats if its true you can never know.
    So in fact it's just baseless speculation? And my Justice league theory is just as valid?

    WakeUp wrote: »
    Ever hear the claims about target sepcific biological weapons in particualr SARS? Bio weapons targeted at a certain race of people? its alleged they, they meaning the ususal suspects US, Israel, China , Russia etc can make target specific bio weapons specific to a certain race of people. Indonesia blamed the US for the bird flu outbrek saying it was made in their lab. Indonesia is the hardest hit country in the world ( reported 109 deaths) apparently the lab is located here...
    And which scientists where working on any of that?

    WakeUp wrote: »
    what if these scientist had stumbled upon some sort of link like these new type of viruses that keep appearing are only infecting a certain type of people or the keep originating in Gwendong province , southern China (SARS,HN51,1957 asian flu, 1968 hong kong flu all originated from Gwendong
    And what if they crossed the legion of doom for the last time?
    Didn't see any Chinese scientists on that list.
    In fact the only link anyone there had to any of those diseases was those two students who were in 2nd year in one of the universities studying bird flu.
    Not exactly compelling evidence.

    WakeUp wrote: »
    ...I really dont know mob and thats the truth but I think something is going on what it is I dont know...
    So there is no evidence of a conspiracy. Nothing connecting the supposed victims.
    No evidence of a motive.
    No actual suspect or suspect organisations.
    No apparent difference in the rate of murders or suspicious deaths than any other group of people.

    Why do you think something is going on exactly?
    Just because you read it on the internet?
    Psychic?
    In on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    bonkey wrote: »
    The wording of this suggests that the media should be reporting more on this point.

    I don't mean to imply that there is nothing to report on, but rather question of whether or not there are grounds to believe they should.

    For example...what is the expected number of "untimely" deaths? How do we determine that? Without such a figure, can we really say whether 80 over 12 years (or just over 6.5 a year) is remarkable at all?

    What is the field-size we're talking about? Can we clearly define which scientific areas are allowed to contribute? Would the untimely death of any "ledaing scientist" warrant inclusion, in effect suggesting the field-size of all "leading scientists" (however we define that)?

    I don't believe these questions have been answered, which is why I'd be wary of any suggestion that there is reason to pay attention to these figures, or that there is something remiss in the fact that they haven't been paid sufficient attention by the likes of the media.

    there all fair comments, it is a good idea to break the scientists down more into exactly what they were involved in, the numerical possibilites and how it might be related i have something about that somewhere Im gona dig it out, for your average person like myself who woundlt be up to speed on biology, molecular biology and virolgy understanding the scientific language involved in their exact research isnt very easy and even harder to explain, each of them needs to be looked into further on an individual basis which Im doing at the moment I agree this needs to be done.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    how are we going on this?

    I might me meeting a mate of mine from the Courier Mail tonight so I'll ask him what he knows about that plane crash in FNQ tats mentioned there, I remember there was a bit of controersy about it at the time.

    I'll se if they've heard anything else about the rest of thestories too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Aye Matey!


    Keep us posted MC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭themetallifan


    WakeUp wrote: »
    vague reports unless you have a degree in microbiology its hard understand

    That's me!!:) Well....nearly. Should make for an interesting career from the sounds of it I guess!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭Aye Matey!


    That's me!!:) Well....nearly. Should make for an interesting career from the sounds of it I guess!

    Are you refering to your own ambigiuty with microbiology or that you're about to embark upon / conclude a career with the said field of science?

    If its the latter can you tell me what the shelf-life of unfrozen but refrigerated poultry is? The benzene ring is also of interest to me. Combined both inquiries raise the question of which come first: the chicken or the e? ;)

    Perhaps thats an insider joke lest your microbiological vocation has not intersected with the mind-altering grand vocation of biochemistry. Either way can you shine any light on the OP?


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