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Squats, Squats, Squats

  • 12-01-2009 11:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭


    Ive noticed there are quite a few people interested in powerlifting around here, and I keep a log anyway, so it would be good to post it and get some feedback

    Firstly, Im 19, 6'3", and around 94kg - long term goal is 120kg, so quite a bit to go yet

    Ive been lifting seriously and intelligently for about 16 months, and ive been on a powerlifting programme for about 8 weeks, and Ive settled well into my westside programme
    Ive made great lower body gains, upper not where i would like to be yet

    I have signed up for the IDFPA single lifts comp next month, not sure if i will bench yet, we'll see how it goes

    My progress over the last 8 weeks has been
    Squat: 147.5kg to 160kg (the 160kg was a parallel box squat, havent done full squats yet)
    Deadlift: 190kg to 205kg (although 205 was easy, im confident of 215kg, Im really pleased with this progress since Ive only done deads once in the 8 weeks, sldls and good mornings have really pushed it up)
    Bench: 95kg to 100kg (i have big problems with my bench, ive never liked doing it, have some form issues)


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    Pretty happy with this workout, bar speed was good on DE box squats, they were about 2" below parallel, so i went 5kg less than i usually do on DE day

    DE box squats
    20kg x 7
    60kg x 5
    80kg x 4
    80kg x 4
    100kg x 3
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2
    120kg x 2

    Deficit SLDL
    80kg x 8
    100kg x 7
    100kg x 7
    110kg x 6
    125kg x 4

    Reverse Hyper (one-legged)
    60kg x 7
    55kg x 8
    55kg x 8

    Leg Raises
    +5kg x 12
    +5kg x 12

    Decline Crunches
    +25kg x 10
    +25kg x 10

    BB Lunges
    35kg x 52


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Everyone's on a powerlifting buzz these days.... awesome!

    You may as well do the bench anyway. Sure get your first total in and work towards beating it over the next while. There's nothing to focus your training like knowing that a bad lift will mess up a good total.

    (as an aside, at my first comp I did 165/112.5/190 for 467.5 at 90kg), so you're ahead of that!

    Get full squatting as soon as possible. You've only 5/6 weeks left. It's a totally different ball game. And make sure you've someone with an experienced competition eye watching your depth, or get it on video.

    Also, don't go too mad with max deadlifts between now and the comp. I certainly wouldn't do any more than 2 days over 90%. Maybe one day up to 95% of your current max and one day to an opener (around 90%).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    That's a lot of weight to be using for DE box squats... I was doing them with like 100-120kg when I was doing 190kg off the same box height!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    Hanley wrote: »
    Everyone's on a powerlifting buzz these days.... awesome!

    You may as well do the bench anyway. Sure get your first total in and work towards beating it over the next while. There's nothing to focus your training like knowing that a bad lift will mess up a good total.

    (as an aside, at my first comp I did 165/112.5/190 for 467.5 at 90kg), so you're ahead of that!

    Get full squatting as soon as possible. You've only 5/6 weeks left. It's a totally different ball game. And make sure you've someone with an experienced competition eye watching your depth, or get it on video.

    Also, don't go too mad with max deadlifts between now and the comp. I certainly wouldn't do any more than 2 days over 90%. Maybe one day up to 95% of your current max and one day to an opener (around 90%).

    thanks for the comments

    I have a few vids of my box squats, theyre all a good height, from this week on tho i will be doing full squats - ill take vids and try and post them here

    As for the deads, next week will be my last ME deadlift day, and I will try and decide on my opener ( probably 192.5kg). I havent done much deadlift work at all, the assistance lifts are really making it shoot up

    On DE box squats, I might lower it to 115/110kg next week, bar speed was good at the top of the lift, but a little slow off the box, and I was pretty tired by the last set

    My bench sucks tho, but ive a feeling if I nail my form/setup and get more consistant with my bench training, i would see quite an improvement

    I am doing more of RE method for upper since my bench is so poor, on wednesday I will probably do 4x6 paused reps with 70kg, but ill still try and get the DE explosiveness off my chest

    Thanks again for the input, great to hear from someone experienced and who knows what theyre doing


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    The DE squats are supposed to be fast off the bottom.... anyone can snap light weights at the top, but being truly explosive out of the bottom's a different story.

    Think of it this way, the DE squat's are there so you can use speed to blast thru your sticking point. Say now, if you only get really fast just after your sticking point, what's the point in doing em?

    Any other Q's about the IDFPA or anything else, fire away.

    Where'd you hear about em outta interest?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    Hanley wrote: »
    The DE squats are supposed to be fast off the bottom.... anyone can snap light weights at the top, but being truly explosive out of the bottom's a different story.

    Think of it this way, the DE squat's are there so you can use speed to blast thru your sticking point. Say now, if you only get really fast just after your sticking point, what's the point in doing em?

    Any other Q's about the IDFPA or anything else, fire away.

    Where'd you hear about em outta interest?

    yeah, i see what youre saying - i will definately drop a bit off next week and focus on exploding the whole way up

    I dont think I have any questions right now- ive read most of the rules and forum topics on the site, so i have a decent idea of how the events are run etc

    Do you know if there are any members in Dundalk? There is only one person i currently know who knows anything about powerlifting, everyone else i meet thinks its either olympic lifting or bodybuilding :eek: . But one of my reasons for competing is to get to know a few more people interested in the sport

    As far as I can remember, i just searched "irish powerlifting" or something on youtube and seen some videos (which im guessing were you) and just started to look into it from there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    Very nice Deadlift Podge. I'll be lifting at the single lifts too. Must sign up for them this week actually. It's my first comp as well so I'm gonna do all 3 just to get the experience and see how taxing it is to do 9 heavy lifts.

    Does your gym have a reverse hyper? If it does I hate you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    kevpants wrote: »
    Very nice Deadlift Podge. I'll be lifting at the single lifts too. Must sign up for them this week actually. It's my first comp as well so I'm gonna do all 3 just to get the experience and see how taxing it is to do 9 heavy lifts.

    Does your gym have a reverse hyper? If it does I hate you.

    Thanks for checking out my journal, ill be sure to have a look at yours

    My deadlift has always been way ahead of everything else, i have really long arms, but on the other hand its my downfall on bench

    Glad to here i wont be the only first timer there - im sure ill see you there. Ill probably do all 3 too, i cant avoid benching forever :D

    I wish we had an actual reverse hyper, i have to settle for a machine-type version - i would describe it as a stiff-legged hamstring curl, lol

    so you dont need to hate me :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - I sort of went for a DE/RE hybrid today, with pause benching and trying to explode off the bottom. It actually helped me realise that my sticking point is at the very bottom, once i get it 2" off my chest, im fine, so ill focus a bit more on shoulders and inclines
    - Mini rant about my gym - the flat bench is only 12" off the ground, which makes it impossible to arch and get leg drive at the same time. I have asked them to get a proper rack, but we'll wait and see.
    - 46kgs x 5 was a PR on DB rows, but it was tough holding that DB straight
    - Idk why, but on seated press, 55kg was easy, i tried 60kg and i couldnt get, dropped to 57.5kg, and it was pretty easy too
    - ME squats tomorrow, although I am just going for a 2rm

    Pause Bench
    20kg x 8
    50kg x 8
    60kg x 7
    65kg x 6
    65kg x 6
    65kg x 6
    65kg x 6

    Seated OH Press
    50kg x 8
    55kg x 6
    57.5kg x 5

    JM Press
    55kg x 8
    65kg x 7
    70kg x 6
    72.5kg x 4

    DB Rows
    38kg x 10
    42kg x 8
    46kg x 5
    34kg x 20

    Incline DB
    26kg's x 10
    26kg's x 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good workout, worked up to 152.5kg x 2 on squats, and looking back at my journal, on dec 26, i struggled with 152.5 x 1, so im pleased with the progress.
    - Also hit 2 prs on good mornings
    - the 135kg squat was supposed to be for 2 reps, but my shorts split at the bottom of the first rep, with the loudest tearing noise imaginable, so now everyone in my gym knows i wear bright red boxers :D
    - My squat form and setup has improved a lot recently, for a gew weeks i wrote out a checklist i would run through to make sure i got the setup right, now its coming naturally

    Squat
    20kg x 7
    60kg x 6
    90kg x 4
    90kg x 3
    100kg x 2
    135kg x 1
    145kg x 1
    152.5kg x 2

    Good Morning
    55kg x 8
    65kg x 7
    70kg x 6
    75kg x 5
    82.5kg x 4

    Hyperextension
    +15kg x 12
    +15kg x 12

    Walking DB lunge
    34kg db's x 12
    34kg db's x 12
    34kg db's x 10

    Cable crunch
    25
    18
    (weight not accurate)

    Vertical Plank
    50kg x 60secs
    55kg x 60secs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good workout, first time doing incline bb for a while, 85kg was relatively easy, just couldnt get the 90kg, should get it next week

    Incline BB
    20kg x 7
    40kg x 6
    60kg x 4
    60kg x 4
    67.5kg x 3
    72.5kg x 3
    80kg x 2
    85kg x 1
    90kg x 0

    DB Extension
    34kg x 8
    38kg x 7
    42kg x 5
    42kg x 5

    DB Rows
    38kg x 10
    42kg x 8
    46kg x 5
    34kg x 20

    DB Shrugs
    38kg's x 15
    42kg's x 10
    46kg's x 6

    Stretching / prehab


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Ive exams this week, so schedule is a bit different - will get all workouts done, but most will be at the end of the week
    - As suggested, i lowered the weight on box squats, really powered through the concentric phase, i would say i was about 25-35% quicker than before
    - Pr on front squats, although i had a lot more in me - im going for 100kg x 4 next week

    DE Box squats
    20kg x 6
    60kg x 4
    80kg x 3
    80kg x 3
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2

    Pullthrough
    8
    7
    5
    5

    Front Squat
    72.5kg x 7
    82.5kg x 6
    92.5kg x 4

    Reverse Hyper Machine (per leg)
    60kg x 7
    55kg x 7
    55kg x 7

    Ab pulldown
    25
    15

    Captains Chair
    14kg x 10
    14kg x 10

    Stretching / grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Pretty happy today - finally got my arch set up right, took quite a bit off my ROM, and my elbows dont have to go anywhere near as deep, which makes a big difference.
    - Also i weighed some of the plates at my gym today , to make sure i wouldnt get nailed to the floor on my squat opener due my gym weights being off, but happily enough all the 20kg plates were between 20.7 and 21kg, so my maxes should be a bit higher than i thought
    - No real prs today, just a good solid workout. Felt a little twinge in my back on DB presses, so i stopped, nothing wrong with it now

    Pause Bench
    20kg x 10
    40kg x 8
    60kg x 7
    60kg x 7
    67.5kg x 6
    67.5kg x 6
    67.5kg x 6
    67.5kg x 6

    DB Shoulder press
    28kg's x 8
    30kg's x 4(stopped at 4 reps)

    CGBP
    60kg x 8
    67.5kg x 6
    72.5kg x 4
    60kg x 8

    Lat Pulldown
    80kg x 10
    80kg x 10
    87.5kg x 8

    Preacher Curl Machine
    40kg x 15
    35kg x 15

    stretching etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Bah, failed on 215kg dead, got it up to just below my knees, it sort of stalled, i knew to get it up would require a lot of hitching, which would be pointless. Given the inaccurate plates, it was likely 220+. Was my last DL before the comp, i think i will set 190 as my opener, maybe 195, 190 went up fairly easy today. 190-215 was probably too big of a jump
    - Rest of the workout was good, PR on GM's , and decline crunches with the plate behind my head were awesome

    Deads
    60kg x 6
    100kg x 4
    140kg x 3
    160kg x 2
    180kg x 1
    190kg x 1
    215kg x 0

    Good Morning
    60kg x 8
    72.5kg x 6
    80kg x 6
    87.5kg x 5

    Decline Crunches(behind head)
    +5kg x 12
    +10kg x 10

    Captains Chair
    +14kg x 10
    +14kg x 10

    BB Lunges
    55kg x 20
    45kg x 62

    DB holds
    50kg's x 30 secs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    190-215 was def too big of a jump lad... how how much of a deload are you taking before the comp? with a 7 day deload.if its your first comp open 185 just to make sure you get that first lift in... confidence builder like!!! seriously good deadlift though!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    190-215 was def too big of a jump lad... how how much of a deload are you taking before the comp? with a 7 day deload.if its your first comp open 185 just to make sure you get that first lift in... confidence builder like!!! seriously good deadlift though!!

    thanks,
    yeah, i really should have done 200 or something, i dont really know what i was thinking, i had it planned out and everything, all the studying must be messing with my head :D

    im going to take it handy for a week before, some really light stuff just to keep myself ticking over, i will probably start at 190, i dont want to be making too big of jumps between attempts (like today, lol)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good session today, a good few pr's, up to 90kg on incline, flat benching next week, hopefully i will be well over 100kg, surely my incline cant be 90% of my flat bench
    - Exams nearly over - ill have 2 weeks to do nothing but train, eat and ps3 :D

    Incline
    20kg x 8
    40kg x 6
    60kg x 4
    60kg x 4
    70kg x 3
    80kg x 2
    85kg x 1
    90kg x 1

    DB Front raises
    16kg's x 10
    18kg's x 8
    20kg's x 7

    Dips
    15
    15

    One-arm DB Rows
    38kg x 10
    42kg x 8
    46kg x 6
    34kg x 20

    JM Press
    55kg x 8
    65kg x 7
    75kg x 4
    70kg x 7

    Machine Preacher
    40kg x 15
    35kg x 15

    - Stretching / joints etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Really good workout tonight, exams over, so i can really focus on lifting again.
    - Went about 2.5in below parallel on boxes, just to make sure depth will not be an issue. Will also get a vid of fridays squats
    - Didnt go as heavy on SLDLs today, because i feel the lower my reps, the more back i use, so i finished on 100kgx10, which was an awesome set
    - PR of 100kgx3 on front squats, i was going for 4 reps, but still relatively pleased with it

    DE Box Squat
    20kg x 6
    60kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    80kg x 3
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2
    105kg x 2

    Deficit SLDL
    95kg x 9
    107.5kg x 7
    115kg x 5
    100kg x 10

    Front Squats
    75kg x 8
    85kg x 6
    100kg x 3

    Decline crunches
    +10kg x 10
    +10kg x 10

    DB Side bends
    30kg's x 10
    30kg's x 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - First time doing DE bench in a while, was really good, speed was about 2.5x quicker than on a ME attempt
    - Easy PR on pushpress, I did them out of a rack today and also pushed my head through, which made a big difference. Could have got 72.5kg x 4

    DE Bench
    20kg x 8
    50kg x 6
    50kg x 6
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 3

    Push Press
    55kg x 7
    62.5kg x 5
    67.5kg x 4

    DB Extension
    34kg x 10
    38kg x 8
    42kg x 5
    42kg x 5

    Lat Pulldown
    72.5kg x 12
    80kg x 10
    87.5kg x 7
    72.5kg x 12

    DB Floor Press
    30kg's x 15
    30kg's x 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Bad session yesterday, was going for a 165 squat, but i was struggling, even with 100 x 3, and the spotter just took 155 at the top. I took some caffeine before, which i havent used in a long time, didnt have a good effect - was very light-headded, my walkouts were unsteady, setup was awful. Ill just have to put this behind me, i know i have a lot more in me, im still confident of 155 for a double next week.
    - After squats, caffeine seemed to wear off, and the rest of the workout went back to normal - pr on Good Mornings and lunges

    Squats
    20kg x 8
    50kg x 5
    80kg x 4
    100kg x 3
    120kg x 2
    140kg x 2
    145kg x 1
    155kg x 0

    Good Morning
    65kg x 8
    75kg x 7
    82.5kg x 6
    90kg x 5

    Hyper Extension
    25
    25

    Cable Crunch
    30
    15
    15

    BB Lunge
    60kg x 14
    45kg x 65


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good stuff today - used a different gym, which had a much firmer and higher bench, which allowed me to set up and arch much better, and it made a big difference. I hurt my RC a little on one of the lift-offs, so i think i have more in me. Got 100 paused easily, just missed the second rep, and then got 105, which was semi-paused
    - DB's in this gym only go to 40kg, so I went for higher reps on the rows.
    - Going to go a bit easier on DE days this week, and try and conserve myself for ME.

    Bench
    20kg x 8
    40kg x 6
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 3
    80kg x 3
    90kg x 2
    100kg x 1
    105kg x 1

    CGBP
    65kg x 8
    70kg x 7
    75kg x 5
    70kg x 7

    DB Rows
    40kg x 10
    40kg x 10
    40kg x 10
    35kg x 15

    DB Fronts raise
    14kg's x 7
    18kg's x 8
    22kg's x 6

    - High rep pushdowns, flyes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good stuff today, went heavier on DE squats, but speed was better than ever
    - Didnt want to hit hamstrings too hard, so I did low-rep GMs, which dont leave me with as much ham soreness as sldls

    DE Box Squats
    20kg x 7
    60kg x 6
    80kg x 4
    80kg x 4
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2
    110kg x 2

    Good Morning
    70kg x 7
    80kg x 5
    85kg x 5
    92.5kg x 5

    Front Squat
    80kg x 8
    90kg x 5

    Leg Press
    195kg x 20

    Captains Chair
    +14kg x 12
    +14kg x 12
    +14kg x 12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Nothing crazy today, just wanted to make sure i didnt get any soreness/doms/injuries, so i can hit 100x2 on saturday
    - felt a bit dodgy in my stomach after 2nd set of push press, so i didnt do any more of those

    Bench
    (paused)
    60kg x 8
    60kg x 8
    65kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    (DE)
    65kg x 3
    65kg x 3
    65kg x 3

    DB Rows
    38kg x 12
    42kg x 9
    46kg x 6
    34kg x 20

    Push Press
    60kg x 8
    65kg x 6

    Tri Pushdown
    12
    8
    10
    20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Happy enough with today - got 152.5x2 - i got this a few weeks ago, havent progressed much on squats since then, i really need the deload. Im confident to use this as my opener, should be handy enough - todays lift was probably more like 158 if it was with accurate weights.
    - Decided after the comp, i will go with 9 weeks of sheiko up to the next IDFPA comp. I made good progress on westside, but i want to try as many training styles as possible, so sheiko will fit well in this timeframe.

    Squats
    20kg x 8
    50kg x 6
    80kg x 4
    100kg x 3
    115kg x 2
    130kg x 2
    145kg x 1
    152.5kg x 2

    Deficit SLDL
    80kg x 9
    100kg x 7
    120kg x 6
    130kg x 4

    DB Lunges
    30kg's x 12
    30kg's x 12

    Ab pulldown
    30
    20
    20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good workout, had to bench in my regular gym, couldnt get any arch or leg drive, still got 102.5x1, had my wraps on a bit too tight, so i just racked it then.
    - This was my last full workout, taking it easy this week, very, very light workout monday and wednesday

    Bench
    20kg x 25
    50kg x 7
    70kg x 4
    75kg x 3
    82.5kg x 3
    90kg x 2
    95kg x 2
    102.5kg x 1

    DB Extension
    34kg x 12
    38kg x 9
    42kg x 6
    42kg x 6

    Lat Pulldown
    72.5kg x 12
    80kg x 9
    87.5kg x 6

    DB Front Raise
    18kg's x 12
    20kg's x 10
    22kg's x 8

    - Flyes, curls, pushdowns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    taking it easy this week, have just been doing dynamic stretching, today i also did some squat with the bar, just for my setup, some hex db holds and a low intensity jog on the treadmill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    so i competed at the single lifts competition yesterday, lifts didnt go exactly to plan, but i learned a lot just from being there, and its given me a new perspective on training and other stuff

    i just scraped into the 90kg t3 class, my home scales must be off, because they had me at 94-95kg all week.

    now i know what everyone means when they say gym and competition lifts are completely different, you have a lot less control of when you lift, and then of course there is the pressure

    i opened on 150 in the squat, a lift i have made many times in training, got it pretty easy, but stumbled before the rack command = no lift
    went up to 157.5, which i shouldnt have done, and then the pressure was really on, and i just missed it twice

    i opened on 95kg on bench, got it, but it was harder than expected, and missed out on 100kg twice - for some reason my right arm was shooting up a lot quicker than the left. From now on, i will train with the press command in the build up to a competition, i have been pausing, but it is not the same.
    For all lifts, but particularly bench, i found that i had a lot less composure than in the gym, and my setup suffered as a result

    even after the poor start, i was still looking forward to and confident about deads, and in the end they made the whole day worthwhile. 197.5 and 212.5 were easy, and missed 222.5 at the lockout - finished with a 5kg pr, nearly 15kg

    i really took a lot from the competition, and it has made me more determined than ever. I also need to concentrate on my diet, at my height, i really need to be 110kg+, but that will come with time too

    the next competition is in about 9 weeks i think, still undecided on it. From tomorrow, i will start the intermediate 5x5 programme, and although there will be no pr's for the first 4 weeks, by week 7, which would be when i would stop prior to the comp, i am scheduled for 145 x 5 squat, 92 x 5 bench, and 205 x 5 deadlift, which would be significant increases
    ( i have set my maxes a little low, because when it was calculating a 5rm from my maxes, they were to high, because i rarely go over 3 reps on the lifts, so the first few weeks will help me adapt )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Congratulations again dude!

    Are you thinking about the Nationals or are ya gonna hang on a bit for your next comp??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    Congratulations again dude!

    Are you thinking about the Nationals or are ya gonna hang on a bit for your next comp??

    Thanks very much!

    I really havent decided what to do yet, the main priorities are to get my squat and bench up to par and gain some more weight, but it isnt as if competing again will hold me back, even if i wont be able to make any major improvements by then, it will still serve as another learning experience


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    podge57 wrote: »
    !

    I really havent decided what to do yet, the main priorities are to get my squat and bench up to par and gain some more weight, but it isnt as if competing again will hold me back, even if i wont be able to make any major improvements by then, it will still serve as another learning experience

    That's it man. Just use April to try and achieve what you didn't on Saturday but knew you were capable of. That's what I'm gonna do, a proper bench and any kind of pull :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Felt sooo good to be back in the gym today, nothing special workout wise - the first 4 weeks are more of a prep. phase
    - Since im starting off with lighter weights, im using it as an opportunity to switch to low bar squats, and i managed to do all 5 sets low bar to day. It was uncomfortable at first, esp in my shoulder blades, but it gave me a much better leverage over the bar, and it actually felt a good 10-15kg lighter - i just need to make sure i stay upright. Once i get used to low-bar, i can see it making a difference.
    - On the spreadsheet, it calculated and 87.5kg 5rm from a 92.5kg 2rm, which is too high, and i only managed 4 reps @ 80kg today, so i will drop it by another few kgs to ensure i dont stall

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    65kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5
    115kg x 5
    130kg x 5


    Bench
    20kg x 10
    40kg x 5
    50kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    80kg x 4


    BB Rows
    42.5kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    65kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    85kg x 5


    Decline Crunch (plate behind head)
    +5kg x 15
    +5kg x 15
    +5kg x 15
    BW x 20


    DB Shrugs
    38kg's x 15
    38kg's x 15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    kevpants wrote: »
    That's it man. Just use April to try and achieve what you didn't on Saturday but knew you were capable of. That's what I'm gonna do, a proper bench and any kind of pull :pac:

    yeah, i feel i have some unfinished business with that squat rack :pac:

    there is no real reason to stop me, so i probably will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Im starting to like using low bar, even though i only worked up to 97.5 x 5 today, it is a lot more comfortable out of the hole.
    - Im probably going to ditch the db rows, or do them on one of the days when i do bb rows, doing rows 3x/week is too much for me, and form was pretty sloppy today.
    - Weight felt just about right for deads and inclines, doing 5 rep sets of deads fairly works up a sweat. I know I was deadlifting on saturday, and wednesday is probably too soon, but it wont be a regular thing, they will be once a week from now on, i just want to stick to the programme as rigidly as possible, and the workload wasnt too much today anyway.

    Squats

    20kg x 8
    65kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5


    Incline Bench
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5
    70kg x 5


    Deadlift
    60kg x 8
    110kg x 5
    130kg x 5
    155kg x 5
    177.5kg x 5


    Leg Raise
    +5kg x 20
    +5kg x 20
    +5kg x 20


    DB Row
    38kg x 12
    42kg x 9
    46kg x 6


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Dude youre getting very strong, keep up the good work. Your deadlift is savage!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    podge57 wrote: »
    - Im starting to like using low bar, even though i only worked up to 97.5 x 5 today, it is a lot more comfortable out of the hole.
    - Im probably going to ditch the db rows, or do them on one of the days when i do bb rows, doing rows 3x/week is too much for me, and form was pretty sloppy today.
    - Weight felt just about right for deads and inclines, doing 5 rep sets of deads fairly works up a sweat. I know I was deadlifting on saturday, and wednesday is probably too soon, but it wont be a regular thing, they will be once a week from now on, i just want to stick to the programme as rigidly as possible, and the workload wasnt too much today anyway.

    Squats

    20kg x 8
    65kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5


    Incline Bench
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5
    70kg x 5


    Deadlift
    60kg x 8
    110kg x 5
    130kg x 5
    155kg x 5
    177.5kg x 5


    Leg Raise
    +5kg x 20
    +5kg x 20
    +5kg x 20


    DB Row
    38kg x 12
    42kg x 9
    46kg x 6

    Jiminy Christmas!

    Any tips for building a huge deadlift man?! I find it the most satisfying lift by far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    i was wondering what out of the hole means and in the hole means? i hear em alot and i feel so confused


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    FunkZ wrote: »
    Dude youre getting very strong, keep up the good work. Your deadlift is savage!
    celestial wrote: »
    Jiminy Christmas!

    Any tips for building a huge deadlift man?! I find it the most satisfying lift by far.

    thanks lads,
    ive always been pretty good at deadlifting, having long arms helps, although there isnt much you can do about that, my deadlift seems to increase whatever I do.

    up to last week, I had only deadlifted twice in about 10/11 weeks, and I put 20kg on my deadlift during that time, good mornings helped a lot, and i realised I was slow of the floor, so i did deficit sldls, and now my speed off the floor is great.

    Form-wise, I still follow mark rippetoe's setup, by cutting my feet in half with the bar, bending at the hips, grip the bar, then invert the knees - this has helped me get a little more leg drive, as i usually start very high
    i was wondering what out of the hole means and in the hole means? i hear em alot and i feel so confused

    basically, it is the lowest point of the squat, where you make the transition from descent to ascent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Really enjoyed todays workout, squats were great, worked up to 132.5 x 3, which wasnt hard, but not too easy either. I think low bar is making a pretty big difference. I have also got better at filling my stomach with air before the squat, i used to do it with a bit too much going into my chest, but having watched some of the big squatters at the comp, im inhaling more through my mouth than nose now
    - First time doing weighted dips in a long time, i should be able to increase them by a good amount next week.
    - Overall, im really happy with the first of the 5x5, its not as boring as i had feared, and im looking forward to starting to increase the weight

    Squats
    20kg x 10
    65kg x 5
    80kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5
    115kg x 5
    132.5kg x 3
    97.5kg x 8


    Bench
    40kg x 5
    47.5kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    80kg x 3
    57.5kg x 8


    BB Row
    45kg x 5
    52.5kg x 5
    65kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    87.5kg x 3
    65kg x 8


    Dips
    +10kg x 8
    +16kg x 8
    +20kg x 7


    DB Extension
    38kg x 8
    38kg x 8


    Rope Hammer Curls
    12
    12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Great workout, squats and bench went v. well. In my gym, the only squat rack is in front of a mirror, but i focused on not watching myself today, helped me stay upright and get a feel for parallel. Have also changed my bench technique a bit, im pushing back a bit more, instead of straight up and down (ie metal militia style instead of westside)
    - Im glad that i reset my bench last week, had no prob. with the 80kg today. The great thing about this programme is doing mondays heavy sets for 3 reps on the previous friday, it had a big psychological effect.

    Squats
    20kg x 10
    67.5kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    100kg x 5
    115kg x 5
    132.5kg x 5


    Bench
    40kg x 5
    50kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    80kg x 5


    BB Row
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    77.5kg x 5
    87.5kg x 5


    Kneeling ab pulldown
    20
    12
    15


    Hang Clean
    50kg x 5
    57.5kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good, quick session today. My traps were still in bits from hang cleans, so squatting was a bit awkward.
    - Deadlifts were really quick off the floor, but lockouts were slow. I suppose this could be because of my traps too, but ill monitor the situation and address it if neccessary. Also it was my first time deadlifting in the gym away from the mirrors, its a lot different
    - The incline bench in my gym is fixed at a really bad position, from next week, i will use OHP, i stopped at 4 reps on the last set of inclines today, it didnt feel right at all.

    Squats
    20kg x 9
    67.5kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    100kg x 5
    100kg x 5


    Incline
    45kg x 5
    52.5kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5
    72.5kg x 4


    Deadlift
    60kg x 8
    112.5kg x 5
    135kg x 5
    160kg x 5
    182.5kg x 5


    Situps
    +5kg x 15
    +5kg x 15
    +5kg x 12


    Leg Press
    200kg x 15
    200kg x 15


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Brilliant workout today, even though squats werent performed at a max, my setup and form was spot on, squatting 3x/week has really helped me perfect it. 137.5 x 3 felt really easy
    - Had to wait a while to get a free bench, and had done some db extensions, and form was a bit sloppy when benching, but weights felt pretty easy.
    - Weight is up to about about 203lbs, which i think is about 91.7 kg

    Squats
    20kg x 10
    67.5kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    100kg x 5
    115kg x 5
    137.5kg x 3
    100kg x 8


    BB Row
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    77.5kg x 5
    90kg x 3
    65kg x 8


    BB Curl
    30kg x 20
    30kg x 20


    DB Extension
    34kg x 8
    38kg x 8
    38kg x 8


    Bench
    40kg x 5
    50kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    82.5kg x 3
    60kg x 8


    Dips
    +16kg x 8
    +20kg x 8
    +24kg x 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good workout, squats were pretty easy, just need to push my knees out more.
    - Benching felt really good, followed hanley's tips with my arch and setup, shortened my ROM, and i felt really powerful off my chest
    - Need to decide soon if i will do the IDFPA nationals, I really want to, but there are a few other factors affecting my decision that i have to sort out

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    67.5kg x 5
    102.5kg x 5
    120kg x 5
    137.5kg x 5


    Bench
    40kg x 5
    52.5kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5
    72.5kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5


    BB Row
    45kg x 5
    57.5kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    77.5kg x 5
    90kg x 5


    Decline Crunches (Plate Behind Head)
    +5kg x 15
    +7.5kg x 10
    +5kg x 15


    DB Row
    42kg x 10
    46kg x 7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Another good session today, trainings been going really well lately. Deads were no problem, easier than last week, so it must have just been my traps holding me back last week
    - Instead of switching to OH press, i propped the incline with some plates to put it at a muc better angle.
    - Tried rolling db extensions for the first time, theyre a good exercise, but i will do sets of 10+ from now on

    Squats
    20kg x 10
    67.5kg x 5
    85kg x 5
    102.5kg x 5
    102.5kg x 5


    Incline
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    65kg x 5
    72.5kg x 5


    Deadlift
    80kg x 8
    115kg x 5
    140kg x 5
    162.5kg x 5
    185kg x 5


    Ab Pulldown
    25
    20
    15


    Rolling DB Extension
    14kg's x 8
    14kg's x 8
    12kg's x 12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Not the best workout today, was up really early, didnt eat enough beforehand, although those arent legit excuses.
    - Too much forward lean on the 140x3 squats, didnt look up and drive my head back enough, and my benching was a bit ugly too. The weights were fine, form was not. As long as I tidy it up by monday, i should be ok

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    67.5kg x 5
    102.5kg x 5
    120kg x 5
    140kg x 3
    102.5kg x 8


    BB Row
    45kg x 5
    57.5kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    77.5kg x 5
    92.5kg x 3
    67.5kg x 8


    Bench
    40kg x 5
    52.5kg x 5
    62.5kg x 5
    72.5kg x 5
    87.5kg x 3
    62.5kg x 8


    Dips
    +16kg x 8
    +20kg x 8
    +24kg x 5


    DB Floor Press
    30kg's x 12
    26kg's x 8 :mad:


    Machine Preacher
    20
    20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Excellent session today, form was way better than friday, hit the numbers pretty easy. Got a really good arch going on bench, improved my stroke a lot.
    - Even though it only been 3 weeks since the comp, i think ive made good progress since then, even if i was off that day

    Comp:
    Squat: 150kg - Missed on command, but should have got it
    Bench 95kg - Was a bad day, have done 102.5 in the gym
    Deadlift 212.5kg - Should have got 222.5

    Latest (not maxes)
    Squat: 140kg x 5
    Bench: 87.5kg x 5
    Deadlift: 187.5kg x 5

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    70kg x 5
    87.5kg x 5
    105kg x 5
    122.5kg x 5
    140kg x 5


    Leg Raise
    +4kg x 15
    +6kg x 12
    +6kg x 12


    BB Row
    47.5kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    95kg x 5


    Lat Pulldown
    80kg x 10
    80kg x 10


    Bench
    42.5kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    87.5kg x 5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    how are you finding the bench at the end of a squat session...its something i never thought of doing. i was squatting and benching on the same day twice a week as part of a russian cycle i was doing...i played around with it and found bench then squat then the assistance work...never though of leaving the bench till the end though...the beauty of logs!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    how are you finding the bench at the end of a squat session...its something i never thought of doing. i was squatting and benching on the same day twice a week as part of a russian cycle i was doing...i played around with it and found bench then squat then the assistance work...never though of leaving the bench till the end though...the beauty of logs!!!

    its not intentional, theres only one bench in my gym and theres always someone using it, so i usually have to get my other stuff done first

    It has never bothered me though, in fact i think i bench better when i do it at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Didnt hit my numbers today, im not overly concerned though. I went to football training for the first time in ages last night, and i had not recovered. I need the 48hrs rest, so i dont think i will be doing it again.
    - Ran out of chalk before my last 2 sets of deads, 190 x 5 was always going to be a task - got the 5th up to my knees but couldnt hold it

    Squats
    20kg x 10
    70kg x 5
    87.5kg x 5
    105kg x 5
    105kgx5


    Incline
    45kg x 5
    57.5kg x 5
    65kg x 5
    75kg x 3


    Deads
    60kg x 8
    120kg x 5
    142.5kg x 5
    167.5kg x 5
    190kg x 4


    Captains Chair
    +14kg x 12
    +16kg x 10
    +14kg x 12


    Rolling DB extensions
    12kg's x 12
    12kg's x 12
    12kg's x 12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Decent workout, only got 3 hours sleep last night, but i ate plenty and managed to muster up the energy.
    - Form was good, weights were tough enough, but they are going to be tough from now on

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    70kg x 5
    87.5kg x 5
    105kg x 5
    122.5kg x 5
    142.5kg x 3
    105kg x 8


    Bench
    42.5kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    75kg x 5
    90kg x 3
    67.5kg x 8


    BB Row
    47.5kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    97.5kg x 3
    70kg x 8


    Dips
    +20kg x 8
    +20kg x 8


    Tri Pushdown
    12
    12


    Machine Preacher
    20
    20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    - Good session, some prs. Squats werent hard, bar was a little too low on my back, so some slight gm'ing
    - Bench was good, first 3 reps very strong & quick, lockout was slow on the other 2, but got them in the end. Will do 90x5 again next week, i was only scheduled to hit next week , but because i dont have 1kg plates, im a little ahead

    Squat
    20kg x 10
    72.5kg x 5
    90kg x 5
    107.5kg x 5
    125kg x 5
    142.5kg x 5


    Bench
    20kg x 10
    45kg x 5
    55kg x 5
    67.5kg x 5
    77.5kg x 5
    90kg x 5


    Row
    47.5kg x 5
    60kg x 5
    70kg x 5
    82.5kg x 5
    97.5kg x 5


    Dips
    +22kg x 8
    +22kg x 8


    Decline Crunch (behind head)
    +5kg x 12 x 3


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