Random new drug -Salvia, and, it's legal!

Mr. Incognito · 10-01-2009 1:47pm #1

http://www.random-good-stuff.com/2008/01/24/smoking-salvia-divinorum/

I was wandering through FHM's drug use video's and there's a guy smoking Salvia, I'll admit I had never heard of it but sounds like the bees knees. Natural occuring compound and per mass is the most concentrated hallucinagenic around, oh and did I mention it's readily available and legal.

Collie D · 10-01-2009 1:53pm

Screw that. PM me for crack

JC 2K3 · 10-01-2009 1:55pm

New?

Welcome to at least 3 or 4 years ago.

And being here since March 2007, I'm surprised you haven't seen a thread on it yet. One pops up in AH about salvia or at least legal highs in general usually every month or so.

The_Minister · 10-01-2009 1:58pm

It's also meant to be awful.

eth0_ · 10-01-2009 1:59pm

LOL how old are you, 12?

Salvia is very rarely nice.

seanybiker · 10-01-2009 2:01pm

hmm interesting

m3llowship · 10-01-2009 2:02pm

Its hellish. Awful stuff! Really messes with your brain like!

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 10-01-2009 2:02pm

eth0_ wrote: »

LOL how old are you, 12?

Reading FHM, it goes without saying.

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 2:02pm

Salvia Divinorum can be a very intense halluconegenic when smoked in a bowl or water pipe with a high temperature flame (butane blowtorch type lighter needed).

You need to to smoke it all with just one burn and keep the smoke in your lungs for as long as possible.

The effects can last anywhere between 5 and 20 minutes,Hallucinations,loss of control and also physical hallucinations (being held down,pushed) can result.

Many people do it once and never again having experienced a bad trip,some people enjoy it and do it regularly.

The safest way to take Salvia Divinorum is to be in a happy/stable state of mind and have a good friend with you to watch you should anything go wrong.

Salvia Divinorum leaves in their unprocessed form can be chewed,if the juice is swallowed it will have no effect as stomach acid negates it.Keeping the juice in your mouth while you chew will lead a milder trip lasting a few hours.

The head shop in Rathmines only sells it to over 21s while most head shops supply it to anyone over 18.

Shulgin · 10-01-2009 2:05pm

Salvia is not pleasant :eek:

to put it mildly.

dlofnep · 10-01-2009 2:14pm

Is it DMT? Joe Rogan is always banging on about it.

Turd Ferguson · 10-01-2009 2:17pm

Salvia can be good if you do it properly (you need really intense heat) but generally its horrible

sadista · 10-01-2009 2:18pm

there was a giant octopus under my carpet which had changed into a cream coloured sea.I was afraid to get up off the couch for fear I would fall in!! Funny ****!!:D

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 2:20pm

dlofnep wrote: »

Is it DMT? Joe Rogan is always banging on about it.

No thats found in the plant Ayahuasca mainly and is closer to Psilocybin (Magic Mushrooms) than Salvia Divinorum.

dlofnep · 10-01-2009 2:21pm

Ah ok.

rubadub · 10-01-2009 2:33pm

I don't know why countries are bothering with the administration expense of making salvia illegal. Salvia is the opposite of a habit forming drug. It is not a party drug so really poses no threat to the alcohol industry, which is a big reason most alternative recreational drugs are nipped in the bud early.

Degsy · 10-01-2009 2:36pm

If its legal its not worth doing.

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 2:38pm

Degsy wrote: »

If its legal its not worth doing.

Not true.If all illicit drugs were legalised would that mean they werent worth doing?Just because they were legal?

Degsy · 10-01-2009 2:42pm

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Not true.If all illicit drugs were legalised would that mean they werent worth doing?Just because they were legal?

If.....

kerno · 10-01-2009 2:42pm

Where can you get it in Dublin?

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 2:52pm

Degsy wrote: »

If.....

You may have tried some legal highs and found them not to your liking mate,theres plenty more out there and btw when they ban presently legal highs does that make them more worthwhile (after they have been banned)?

kerno wrote: »

Where can you get it in Dublin?

Head Shops,I dont think I can name any I recommend on Boards though.

sadista · 10-01-2009 2:52pm

theres a headstore on capel street called nirvana just off the quays in city centre theyre sound and will give you some helpful advice:)

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 2:54pm

kerno wrote: »

Where can you get it in Dublin?

sadista wrote: »

theres a headstore on capel street called nirvana just off the quays in city centre theyre sound and will give you some helpful advice:)

Its allowed?

Ok lol thats easier,try Amsterdam in Rathmines bside Dominos Pizza Kerno,they open til 9pm.

JC 2K3 · 10-01-2009 2:57pm

sadista wrote: »

theres a headstore on capel street called nirvana just off the quays in city centre theyre sound and will give you some helpful advice:)

They might be sound, but I'd take anything anyone working in one of those shops with a pinch of salt. They're not qualified, and I've encountered some who were utterly clueless. Research anything you want to try online first.

Kold · 10-01-2009 2:58pm

Majority of people report an unpleasant experience. Still fancy it if I'm honest. But I'm not paying head shop prices and I can wait.

InkSlinger67 · 10-01-2009 2:59pm

Don't go near it OP, its crap!

Better off huffing the fumes from your local industrial estate

scop · 10-01-2009 3:03pm

In my more retarded younger days I used to smoke this coming down from shrooms (Yes I was that weird).

But salvia is a seriouso drug pretending not to be. Smoke 40x properly (and trust me 90% of people are too lazy to look up how to smoke it) and you'll be whizzing off to la-la-landz.

As to it being new...people were smoking this in the 50s in the US, and in Ireland for a decade or so. In Europe salvia was smoked to intensify trips since at least the 60s. Ireland is just always a little behind which can be a good thing.

ji · 10-01-2009 3:05pm

Its ****e and its around for years

amacachi · 10-01-2009 3:05pm

Lynx is the only way to get high.

yoyo · 10-01-2009 3:13pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS4tvvFNIns

:eek::eek::eek: Seems to be lethal stuff, how is that legal :eek::eek: :pac:

Nick

rubadub · 10-01-2009 3:13pm

Degsy wrote: »

If its legal its not worth doing.

A lot of people also use the logic if it is illegal it is worth doing. So making a drug illegal can have it gain attention and interest people to use it even more. The 2 most widely abused drugs are both legal, so I guess the millions abusing them think they are worth doing.

People have strange logic when it comes to drugs. Like "well if it is so good it would be illegal", like the governments aim is to stop them having a good time. Look what happened with GHB, they saw it as a threat to the alcohol industry so made up myths about it being a date rape drug as a reason to make it illegal. While alcohol is the biggest date rape drug out there!

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Its allowed?

Yes, shops can sell legal goods. In woodies you can get LSA which is similar compound to LSD.

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

Don't go near it OP, its crap!

Crap as in not nice, or that it doesn't work? If you didn't get it to work you were either sold something else, or did not smoke it correctly. Many do not "breakthrough" on their first day, if you think you might have broken through, you did not.... You will know all about it when you do and be in no doubt at all!

If you want to drool like an animal and be sucked into a spiralling vortex and communicate with mother nature type entities then go ahead, it can be very scary stuff.

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 10-01-2009 3:20pm

Inasmuch as I hate propagating these videos, I thought this was hilarious:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1819137

sneakerfreak · 10-01-2009 3:28pm

JC 2K3 wrote: »

They might be sound, but I'd take anything anyone working in one of those shops with a pinch of salt. They're not qualified, and I've encountered some who were utterly clueless. Research anything you want to try online first.

I agree,Ive been shocked at some of the advice given out in some head shops.

Kold wrote: »

Majority of people report an unpleasant experience. Still fancy it if I'm honest. But I'm not paying head shop prices and I can wait.

What?You think €15 is too much? Let me know if you find it cheaper online.

rubadub wrote: »

A lot of people also use the logic if it is illegal it is worth doing. So making a drug illegal can have it gain attention and interest people to use it even more. The 2 most widely abused drugs are both legal, so I guess the millions abusing them think they are worth doing.

People have strange logic when it comes to drugs. Like "well if it is so good it would be illegal", like the governments aim is to stop them having a good time. Look what happened with GHB, they saw it as a threat to the alcohol industry so made up myths about it being a date rape drug as a reason to make it illegal. While alcohol is the biggest date rape drug out there!

Yes, shops can sell legal goods. In woodies you can get LSA which is similar compound to LSD.

Crap as in not nice, or that it doesn't work? If you didn't get it to work you were either sold something else, or did not smoke it correctly. Many do not "breakthrough" on their first day, if you think you might have broken through, you did not.... You will know all about it when you do and be in no doubt at all!

If you want to drool like an animal and be sucked into a spiralling vortex and communicate with mother nature type entities then go ahead, it can be very scary stuff.

This man wins the internet.

rubadub · 10-01-2009 3:46pm

scop wrote: »

As to it being new...people were smoking this in the 50s in the US, and in Ireland for a decade or so. In Europe salvia was smoked to intensify trips since at least the 60s. Ireland is just always a little behind which can be a good thing.

Where did you hear this?

It was in use in south america, and was only "discovered" in 1962 by R. Gordon Wasson & Albert Hofmann (of LSD fame). At the time they did not realise its power, the natives only chewed it which gives a much lower effect. Also even if normally smoked, like in a cigarette it has very little effect too. The plant is difficult to get to give seeds. For this reason it was spread thought clones/cuttings. So in effect a lot of the stuff on sale now is the exact same genetic plant that Wasson & Hoffmann originally got.

They did not rate it highly, the 2 guys also have a book detailing hallucinogenic plants (the majority of which are legal). They only really bothered with ones they were certain had psychoactive substances, which were many. But in the back of the book they had 100's of other plants which were "likely" to contain psychoactive substances, but were as yet untested.

Natives will sometimes hide sacred plants from westerners, there is no doubt many plants & fungi which are yet "undiscovered". They might well have smoked it but Wasson & Hofmann were not aware of this, and only knew about the chewing technique.

Smoking salvia only became "discovered" in 1993 by Daniel Siebert

InkSlinger67 · 10-01-2009 3:50pm

rubadub wrote: »

Crap as in not nice, or that it doesn't work? If you didn't get it to work you were either sold something else, or did not smoke it correctly. Many do not "breakthrough" on their first day, if you think you might have broken through, you did not.... You will know all about it when you do and be in no doubt at all!

It worked for me alright but its nothing you can't get from spray painting your front room! I threw out the only bit I ever bought along with the crappy little pipe they advised me to get.

Waste of time!

rubadub · 10-01-2009 4:02pm

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

It worked for me alright but its nothing you can't get from spray painting your front room!

That doesn't sound like you broke through so, that's a whole different story. It is understandable that you might not have broken through if you smoked it using a "crappy pipe". I would never have been able to smoke it without a good water pipe.

spitfireIRL · 10-01-2009 4:10pm

not a nice trip at all at all....

InkSlinger67 · 10-01-2009 4:16pm

rubadub wrote: »

That doesn't sound like you broke through so, that's a whole different story. It is understandable that you might not have smoked it if you did use a "crappy pipe". I would never have been able to smoke it without a good water pipe.

Different strokes, I suppose!

I hear taking it in suppository form is good for a laugh!:)

zuroph · 10-01-2009 4:22pm

Driving on Salvia....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WruyjJwyf0M

Basq · 10-01-2009 4:26pm

I've made a new drug - Saliva.

I gob continously for 20 minutes in a glass.... you can either inhale it, drink it or inject it.

€65 a glass. PM me for details!

Kold · 10-01-2009 4:28pm

InkSlinger67 wrote: »

Different strokes, I suppose!

I hear taking it in suppository form is good for a laugh!:)

I hear telling people to stick things up their pooper is good for a laugh.

smellslikeshoes · 10-01-2009 4:31pm

Don't understand how anyone would not have heard of Salvia before.

Acid_Violet · 10-01-2009 4:33pm

It's not random, it's not new, and if the government continue with their current plans then it'll probably be banned by February along with a shítload of other legal highs.

truecrippler · 10-01-2009 6:42pm

yoyo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS4tvvFNIns

:eek::eek::eek: Seems to be lethal stuff, how is that legal :eek::eek: :pac:

Nick

LMFAO I cracked up watching that!!!

m83 · 10-01-2009 6:48pm

I have some Salvia in my cupboard. Tried it a few times but didn't work - this was the 15x stuff. Time to up the powers me thinks.

QOTSA90 · 04-05-2009 4:29pm

So is it still legal? Im interested in tryin it. Ill be headin into town tomorrow maybe.. Ill let ya'll know how I get on :P

Is it true that the more you do it the less you need to induce a trip?

My name is URL · 04-05-2009 4:45pm

It's horrible stuff. Nothing like weed

JC 2K3 · 04-05-2009 4:50pm

QOTSA90 wrote: »

So is it still legal? Im interested in tryin it. Ill be headin into town tomorrow maybe.. Ill let ya'll know how I get on :P

Is it true that the more you do it the less you need to induce a trip?

Yes.

Blazer · 04-05-2009 5:01pm

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Salvia Divinorum can be a very intense halluconegenic when smoked in a bowl or water pipe with a high temperature flame (butane blowtorch type lighter needed).

You need to to smoke it all with just one burn and keep the smoke in your lungs for as long as possible.

The effects can last anywhere between 5 and 20 minutes,Hallucinations,loss of control and also physical hallucinations (being held down,pushed) can result.

Many people do it once and never again having experienced a bad trip,some people enjoy it and do it regularly.

The safest way to take Salvia Divinorum is to be in a happy/stable state of mind and have a good friend with you to watch you should anything go wrong.

Salvia Divinorum leaves in their unprocessed form can be chewed,if the juice is swallowed it will have no effect as stomach acid negates it.Keeping the juice in your mouth while you chew will lead a milder trip lasting a few hours.

The head shop in Rathmines only sells it to over 21s while most head shops supply it to anyone over 18.

any gob****e that takes any drug deserves to OD..

O'Coonassa · 04-05-2009 5:14pm

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

any gob****e that takes any drug deserves to OD..

I have a drink of ethanol and deserve to die of alcohol poisoning? That seems a little harsh.

Dardania · 04-05-2009 5:16pm

I tried the 40x stuff a few times a few years ago with a mate of mine -

first time I took one drag of it... My impression was that it was avery metallic taste, gave me a bit of a high - walking felt more like like bouncing...the effect wore off after about 15 mins.

second time we went to town on it - a few drags of it over an hour (I'd guess) It was a bit like being stoned, but less mellow... it also gave me a ringing in my ears, vortexes of realities/galaxies rolling in and out of each other like a doughnut turning inside out... - it really amplified my mood also... I remember sitting down and being utterly confused as to why we were in the state we were, and like I said - it's quite the mood amplifier. Then my friend hit the nail on the head "it's the drugs!" really funny now that I think of it. He talked the anxiety out of me, and then I found it quite interesting - not introspective like being stoned but more of a show for my entertainment... I stuck some Pink Floyd on and fell asleep to that

<SNIP> meaning has been lost through too many edits </SNIP>

Random new drug -Salvia, and, it's legal!

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