Israel/gaza/etc ... does anyone really care?

danindublin

For years every time I go to RTE.ie or BBC news as well as all tv news headlines, always the first story is related to something in the near Middle East and the Israel issue. Now I know the news teams are stuck to write about anything that isn't recession or celebrity based but . . . does anyone really care? It always annoys me that I have to scroll past these stories as if they are just in the way! I honestly would believe that they've been showing the same news footage over and over again on tv for years as it always looks the exact same!

Now am I just a heartless so-and-so or are there others like me other there? Have I missed something here?

I should point out that I'm not a heartless b*****d and I know there's a humanitarian story here but . . .

biko

I care

tba

What stories are you interested in instead?

Ostrom

You dont have to feel bad for something beyond your control

ThunderCat

Is this for real??
You should watch the news on that E Channel. Sounds like it would be more your cup of tea.

AnonoBoy

Like Mark Hamill - I care.

funloving

efla wrote: »

You dont have to feel bad for something beyond your control

I can't believe you wrote this for real..
I care...and I feel for those losing their loved ones every day,for those children not having food,a shelter or any parents or relatives left..

Some things are beyond our control and so what?
Do you feel bad only for what happens within your backgarden?

mike65

Do people care or even know about whats happening in Congo or Zimbabwe? Far greater humanitarian disasters (esp DR Congo) and yet largely off the media map.

Dragan

I think you need to find your own source of information for the things you care about. With regard to the current issues in Gaza, a contact of mine on Flickr is an active photographic journalist who lives and works in the area.

From him i see first hand images and reports on what is happening, not filtered by the news or biased by agenda.

It's scary stuff and yes, i do care.

togster

I care.

Steve.Pseudonym

Of course you don't have to care, you can have whatever opinion you want on the subject, including no opinion or just plain annoyance.

Personally I'm interested.

ionix5891

i care, you'll be surprised how things on other other side of this planet might affect you someday

i would rather watch bbc news than the trash we get on sky or rte news

speaking of trashy news, i was flicking thru channels and stopped on CNN and was disgusted to see israeli propaganda representative trying justify slaughter, very sick, is that what nazis sounded when they were slaughtering the jews, russians and the gays in concentration camps? sick

partyguinness

I care but its very frustrating that nobody has the balls to take a stand against Isreal. Gaza is the worlds most densely populated area and is basically a huge refugee camp which Isreal contraols access to and bombs on a regular enough basis (usually around election time).

funloving

ionix5891 wrote: »

i care, you'll be surprised how things on other other side of this planet might affect you someday

i would rather watch bbc news than the trash we get on sky or rte news

speaking of trashy news, i was flicking thru channels and stopped on CNN and was disgusted to see israeli propaganda representative trying justify slaughter, very sick, is that what nazis sounded when they were slaughtering the jews, russians and the gays in concentration camps? sick

Everything happening in the World affects us in a way or another...

funloving

partyguinness wrote: »

I care but its very frustrating that nobody has the balls to take a stand against Isreal. Gaza is the worlds most densely populated area and is basically a huge refugee camp which Isreal contraols access to and bombs on a regular enough basis (usually around election time).

Israel is "protected" by the USA..this conflict between Isreal and Palestine is much more complicated than it seems and the roots of this conflict are deep.

Dr. Dodger

danindublin wrote: »

For years every time I go to RTE.ie or BBC news as well as all tv news headlines, always the first story is related to something in the near Middle East and the Israel issue. Now I know the news teams are stuck to write about anything that isn't recession or celebrity based but . . . does anyone really care? It always annoys me that I have to scroll past these stories as if they are just in the way! I honestly would believe that they've been showing the same news footage over and over again on tv for years as it always looks the exact same!

Now am I just a heartless so-and-so or are there others like me other there? Have I missed something here?

I should point out that I'm not a heartless b*****d and I know there's a humanitarian story here but . . .

No you're not a heartless b*stard, you're just a f*cking arsehole!

CiaranC

Go watch X Factor instead you twat

Steve.Pseudonym

ionix5891 wrote: »

speaking of trashy news, i was flicking thru channels and stopped on CNN and was disgusted to see israeli propaganda representative trying justify slaughter, very sick, is that what nazis sounded when they were slaughtering the jews, russians and the gays in concentration camps? sick

Hysterical nonsense.

Quazzie

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

No you're not a heartless b*stard, you're just a f*cking arsehole!

why should ya care about some people on the far side of the world that'll never affect you?

KTRIC

To be honest I couldn't care less. I'm sick of these disputes, they've been at war in that region for thousands of years and its not going to stop any time soon.

funloving

KTRIC wrote: »

To be honest I couldn't care less. I'm sick of these disputes, they've been at war in that region for thousands of years and its not going to stop any time soon.

no comment

ps:I a shocked by all this ignorance

ionix5891

KTRIC wrote: »

To be honest I couldn't care less. I'm sick of these disputes, they've been at war in that region for thousands of years and its not going to stop any time soon.

so was europe for even longer and bloodier

we turned out ok lately

maybe we need a Marshall style Plan for the middle east?

Dr. Dodger

I think this thread should be closed and deleted. This is something available all over the world including Israel & Palestine not to mention Ireland where I'm sure some people have family and friend connections with the area. The lack of compassion and the ignorance being shown is shocking.

It's an absolute disgrace, please delete this rubbish.

Ciaran500

funloving wrote: »

ps:I a shocked by all this ignorance

So you look into all the horrible acts going on around the world?

Highsider

I care

Steve.Pseudonym

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

I think this thread should be closed and deleted. This is something available all over the world including Israel & Palestine not to mention Ireland where I'm sure some people have family and friend connections with the area. The lack of compassion and the ignorance being shown is shocking.

It's an absolute disgrace, please delete this rubbish.

What are you, the compassion police? Last time I checked people were allowed to think what they want.

funloving

Ciaran500 wrote: »

So you look into all the horrible acts going on around the world?

I try to keep myself informed about what's going on in the World as much as I can..

Dr. Dodger

Steve.Pseudonym wrote: »

What are you, the compassion police? Last time I checked people were allowed to think what they want.

..and I think this should be closed.

Quazzie

funloving wrote: »

no comment

ps:I a shocked by all this ignorance

So you left a comment to say that. Well done!

funloving

Steve.Pseudonym wrote: »

What are you, the compassion police? Last time I checked people were allowed to think what they want.

so you're thinking..I thought you were brainless from what you're writing!

funloving

Q2002 wrote: »

So you left a comment to say that. Well done!

I can write whatever I want....and so can you of course..

Steve.Pseudonym

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

..and I think this should be closed.

Thereby saying people aren't allowed to have a view other than your one. Disagreeing with someone is different from deleting the thread, it's a perfectly valid opinion, I'm sure plenty of people don't care.

meditraitor

I care

funloving wrote: »

Israel is "protected" by the USA..this conflict between Isreal and Palestine is much more complicated than it seems and the roots of this conflict are deep.

Its not complicated at all

Isreal was created illegally and since then Isreal has been carrying out a campaign of ethnic cleansing,

The abused has become the abuser, and nothing but a good straightner will make them cop on.....

Simple as that

SEPT 23 1989

the state of Israel has the right to defend itself from Islamic terrorists i think
everyone in the West would agree with this

Ostrom

funloving wrote: »

I can't believe you wrote this for real..
I care...and I feel for those losing their loved ones every day,for those children not having food,a shelter or any parents or relatives left..

Some things are beyond our control and so what?
Do you feel bad only for what happens within your backgarden?

I wasnt talking specifically about Israel/Gaza. Of course I care, hold off on the heated comments if you dont have anything more than a line of text to judge

My comment referred to the general trend toward emotive headlines and dramatization in media websites, which his post directly addressed.

The content, presentation and theme of stories is beyond his control, and my point was he shouldnt feel bad about viewer fatigue given how mainstream media manages to make a spectacle of everything, thereby removing impact and any sense of urgency/place/significance in serious issues such as Israel/Gaza

funloving

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the state of Israel has the right to defend itself from Islamic terrorists i think
everyone in the West would agree with this

maybe you should get more informed...Israel isn't DEFENDING itself..

KamiKazi

Couldn't really care less, there's been war in that region all my life and it won't be stopping anytime soon.

Dragan

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

I think this thread should be closed and deleted. This is something available all over the world including Israel & Palestine not to mention Ireland where I'm sure some people have family and friend connections with the area. The lack of compassion and the ignorance being shown is shocking.

It's an absolute disgrace, please delete this rubbish.

Hang on a second, someone has a different opinion than you do so you call for thread closure? And that is after you personally abuse someone within the thread?

Reach skyward, you wilting violet.

SEPT 23 1989

funloving wrote: »

maybe you should get more informed...Israel isn't DEFENDING itself..

so who is firing rockets at them?

Dr. Dodger

I just THINK that this thread is letting down boards in general. I'm not saying you're all not entitled to your opinion, I'm just saying maybe this is not the place to be condemning the deaths of women & children in their hundreds iin Gaza...

I hope the rest of the world isn't as heartless if something terrible happens on this side of Europe.

funloving

efla wrote: »

I wasnt talking specifically about Israel/Gaza. Of course I care, hold off on the heated comments if you dont have anything more than a line of text to judge

My comment referred to the general trend toward emotive headlines and dramatization in media websites, which his post directly addressed.

The content, presentation and theme of stories is beyond his control, and my point was he shouldnt feel bad about viewer fatigue given how mainstream media manages to make a spectacle of everything, thereby removing impact and any sense of urgency/place/significance in serious issues such as Israel/Gaza

I "judged" a line of a text because that's the only thing you wrote...as simple as that!

I said the conflict there is more complicated than what it seems because there are political and economical reasons explaining why the USA stands for Israel too

ps:everybody is allowed to think whatever they want

Canis Lupus

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

I'm just saying maybe this is not the place to be condemning the deaths of women & children in their hundreds iin Gaza...

So we should support it then :P

Personally the news is something I pop on as I iron a shirt and wolf down brekkie.

People killing other people is nothing new.

Ostrom

funloving wrote: »

I "judged" a line of a text because that's the only thing you wrote...as simple as that!

I said the conflict there is more complicated than what it seems because there are political and economical reasons explaining why the USA stands for Israel too

ps:everybody is allowed to think whatever they want

And rightly so

Your average news article cant possibly grasp the complexity of the conflict, but that is not the point - the original question spoke directly to presentation

funloving

this thread is making me think about how some people are anaesthetized to the death now

Everyday millions of people die of war,starvation etc and it's nothing shocking to us anymore...we are so used to hearing these figures...yeah,because these are only figures in our minds...

How sad!!!

Dragan

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

I just THINK that this thread is letting down boards in general. I'm not saying you're all not entitled to your opinion, I'm just saying maybe this is not the place to be condemning the deaths of women & children in their hundreds iin Gaza...

I hope the rest of the world isn't as heartless if something terrible happens on this side of Europe.

Why? Boards is a place where people can post their opinions. Boards.ie has no official line on anything, it's a place to share your thoughts, that is it.

So, this thread is letting down boards because people can actually post their real opinion?

The Mighty Ken

How many of the people that 'care' have actually done anything to show support for the Palestinian people? Whether it be doing relief work in the region or even marching in solidarity in Dublin. I'm guessing a very, very, very small percentage.

Most of you people don't care. You just get emotive on message boards and then you go about your normal, daily life and only really 'care' again when the subject arises and you get to be armchair warriors for a few more mins.

funloving

efla wrote: »

And rightly so

Your average news article cant possibly grasp the complexity of the conflict, but that is not the point - the original question spoke directly to presentation

a single sentence can't "possibly grasp the complexity of the conflict"...what a intuition!

Dudess

The Mighty Ken wrote: »

How many of the people that 'care' have actually done anything to show support for the Palestinian people? Whether it be doing relief work in the region or even marching in solidarity in Dublin. I'm guessing a very, very, very small percentage.

Most of you people don't care. You just get emotive on message boards and then you go about your normal, daily life and only really 'care' again when the subject arises and you get to be armchair warriors for a few more mins.

+1

I DO get bothered by it, in fact it pisses me off greatly. Israel apologists really piss me off - yes, Hamas are terrorist fanatics and ordinary Israeli people are living in fear... but how can anyone justify Israel's repression of the Palestinians?

Same time though, if any of us REALLY cared, we'd be out there helping the Palestinians - like Caoimhe Butterly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caoimhe_Butterly or the late Rachel Corrie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie.

funloving

The Mighty Ken wrote: »

How many of the people that 'care' have actually done anything to show support for the Palestinian people? Whether it be doing relief work in the region or even marching in solidarity in Dublin. I'm guessing a very, very, very small percentage.

Most of you people don't care. You just get emotive on message boards and then you go about your normal, daily life and only really 'care' again when the subject arises and you get to be armchair warriors for a few more mins.

I did marching in solidarity but not in Dublin but in Italy...and I can't stand those "armchair warriors" as you called them too
I have nothing against any peoples..I condemn the decisions made by the governs..

racism is always a crime

Steve.Pseudonym

funloving wrote: »

this thread is making me think about how some people are anaesthetized to the death now

Everyday millions of people die of war,starvation etc and it's nothing shocking to us anymore...we are so used to hearing these figures...yeah,because these are only figures in our minds...

How sad!!!

No, some people just don't care about people far away who have nothing to do with them or their lives. I don't think that's unreasonable or immoral.

Quazzie

Anyone care enough to actually work with the Un in these places....



Thought not!!