How the ILLUMINATI made Baraxk Obama President

zakah1

A year ago I made this video:

Obama is a Zionist Illuminati
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM7L4SDGdqU
(also watch part 2)

10 months before Obama was elected I explained that the Illuminati have chosen him to become the next President.

Now here is a new video that Ive made that explains HOW THE ILLUMINATI MADE OBAMA PRESIDENT. It is a long video, 9 parts, in which I explain how they used subliminal messages on the media as well as reverse psychology and other tactics to get people to support Obama (they didnt simply want people to vote for him, they wanted him to be popular because if he fails to be they would have to change their plans completely).

Anyways here is the video:

Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIQu7go0JU
Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBC-8FCmhQ
Part 3: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV00bB8JpX4
Part 4: www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8I3qDu187c
Part 5: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4oTJGZ7Ic
Part 6: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKj9nVtuzeE
Part 7: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZESbgrieTvg
Part 8: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnj5jIbTm5o
Part 9: www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1vndoEtcFo

sickpuppy32

classic !:D

I bet all that backed up by hard verifiable evidence, sound unbiased reasoning, and good logic.
I also bet that this isn't the first time you've used that post to spam a place.

CiaranC

Thanks for the heads up

zakah1

King Mob wrote: »

I bet all that backed up by hard verifiable evidence, sound unbiased reasoning, and good logic.
I also bet that this isn't the first time you've used that post to spam a place.

you sound bitter. The video explains how the media manipulated people into becoming blind fanatical supporters of Obama

Nick_oliveri

Ahh now, it seems that anything backed by the media must be a conspiracy. I quite liked McCains concession speech and a few of his "crowd control" speeches also. He seemed like a nice man and all but he had the idiot for a VP and there was a split in the usual Republican supporters (which was heard at the concession speech).

Faux was behind the Republicans to the bitter end, with the whole Osama/Obama and general attacks on the man. It was great watching that channel on the night.

But Obama hasn't changed anything or came through on his promises yet, his hands might be tied on a lot of issues or he just could be full of empty promises. I must admit, I was a bit emotional when I seen him and the family up on stage when they won. Its historic for obvious reasons but wait it out and see.

Thats if he gets a chance and some redneck nutjob doesn't...

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

you sound bitter. The video explains how the media manipulated people into becoming blind fanatical supporters of Obama

Right yea. The reason you lack any logic, reason and evidence is because I'm bitter.
And I'm obviously a blind Obama fanatic because I'm skeptical of your claim that he's an Illuminati.

therewillbe

may I say That I like the idea of a NAZI STYLE STATE,at least you know your place in society .... to the theme of the x files

zakah1

King Mob wrote: »

Right yea. The reason you lack any logic, reason and evidence is because I'm bitter.
And I'm obviously a blind Obama fanatic because I'm skeptical of your claim that he's an Illuminati.

You didnt even watch the video and you're "skeptical"???

You want evidence for what, that he is a Zionist?
1) He said he supports Israel
2) He spoke in support of Zionism
3) His chief advisor is a Zionist Jew
4) He is financed by Zionist Jews such as David Axelrod
5) The Zionist controled media supports him
6) He condemned Palestinian resistance to Israeli attacks as "terrorism"
7) He wants more troops in Afghanistan
8) He wants to bomb Pakistan
9) He said killing Muslim civilians is ok
10) He has an ex-Israeli soldier in his admin

Is that enough or do you want me to go on?

The videos that I made however dont look as much into the evidence (because the evidence is already out there and it is OBVIOUS with anyone with eyes to see). So the videos go deeper and actually explain HOW the manipulation works and why.

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

You didnt even watch the video and you're "skeptical"???

You want evidence for what, that he is a Zionist?
1) He said he supports Israel
2) He spoke in support of Zionism
3) His chief advisor is a Zionist Jew
4) He is financed by Zionist Jews such as David Axelrod
5) The Zionist controled media supports him
6) He condemned Palestinian resistance to Israeli attacks as "terrorism"
7) He wants more troops in Afghanistan
8) He wants to bomb Pakistan
9) He said killing Muslim civilians is ok
10) He has an ex-Israeli soldier in his admin

Is that enough or do you want me to go on?

The videos that I made however dont look as much into the evidence (because the evidence is already out there and it is OBVIOUS with anyone with eyes to see). So the videos go deeper and actually explain HOW the manipulation works and why.

Ah so we're taking quote out of context now too? Yay!

I never said he wasn't a zionist I said he's not an Illuminati.

Also I have yet to see anything to suggest the media is "Zionist controlled."

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

I never said he wasn't a zionist I said he's not an Illuminati.

Do you think he is a Zionist?

I haven't a breeze the effort and time it takes to make a video, but if i did I would be extremely insulted if someone felt free to criticise it and qusetion it without even viewing it. Why don't you watch it first?

Diogenes

zakah1 wrote: »

1) He said he supports Israel

evidence?

2) He spoke in support of Zionism

Evidence?

3) His chief advisor is a Zionist Jew

Evidence

4) He is financed by Zionist Jews such as David Axelrod

Evidence that David Axelrod is a Zionist?

5) The Zionist controled media supports him

yeah cause Fox news were just his biggest cheerleaders!

6) He condemned Palestinian resistance to Israeli attacks as "terrorism"

What would you describe rocket attacks against Israeli civilians other than terrorism?

7) He wants more troops in Afghanistan

No he wants to refocus resources in Afghanistan. Would you rather he give it up to a regime that behead women for adultery in soccer stadiums?

8) He wants to bomb Pakistan

No he's said he'll pursue Taliban and Al Qaeda into Pakistan.

9) He said killing Muslim civilians is ok

Really? Where?

10) He has an ex-Israeli soldier in his admin

Who and at what level?

The videos that I made however dont look as much into the evidence (because the evidence is already out there and it is OBVIOUS with anyone with eyes to see). So the videos go deeper and actually explain HOW the manipulation works and why.

bat guano.

zakah1

If youre asking for evidence then its obvious you know absolutely nothing about Obama

Dont worry though I'll show you.

1) He said he supports Israel
2) He spoke in support of Zionism
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etWLwrvT2vo

3) His chief advisor is a Zionist Jew

Do some reading on Dennis Ross, Obamas Jewish
middle east policy advisor.

Diogenes wrote: »

Evidence that David Axelrod is a Zionist?

He is Jewish and supports Israel/Zionism.

Diogenes wrote: »

yeah cause Fox news were just his biggest cheerleaders!

Explained that on the video

Diogenes wrote: »

What would you describe rocket attacks against Israeli civilians other than terrorism?

What would you call the bombing of Palestine?
The Zionists invaded Palestine and are killing its people, not the other way around. The Palestinians are resisting the occupation.

Diogenes wrote: »

No he wants to refocus resources in Afghanistan. Would you rather he give it up to a regime that behead women for adultery in soccer stadiums?

Would you prefer the Pro-American warlords who kill people just to steal their money and rape young women?

Diogenes wrote: »

No he's said he'll pursue Taliban and Al Qaeda into Pakistan.

Yes but by BOMBING PAKISTAN. He even said he is willing to kill innocent Pakistani civilians in order to get to bin Laden:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_MeRDQx0Ys
Its on 4:50

Diogenes wrote: »

Really? Where?

Same place as above

Diogenes wrote: »

Who and at what level?

Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Do you think he is a Zionist?

I haven't a breeze the effort and time it takes to make a video, but if i did I would be extremely insulted if someone felt free to criticise it and qusetion it without even viewing it. Why don't you watch it first?

Because given this guy's reasoning it honestly does not seem worth an hour of my time.

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

If youre asking for evidence then its obvious you know absolutely nothing about Obama

Dont worry though I'll show you.

1) He said he supports Israel
2) He spoke in support of Zionism
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etWLwrvT2vo

3) His chief advisor is a Zionist Jew

Do some reading on Dennis Ross, Obamas Jewish
middle east policy advisor.




He is Jewish and supports Israel/Zionism.





Explained that on the video




What would you call the bombing of Palestine?
The Zionists invaded Palestine and are killing its people, not the other way around. The Palestinians are resisting the occupation.



Would you prefer the Pro-American warlords who kill people just to steal their money and rape young women?





Yes but by BOMBING PAKISTAN. He even said he is willing to kill innocent Pakistani civilians in order to get to bin Laden:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_MeRDQx0Ys
Its on 4:50




Same place as above




Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff

So supporting Israel = Illuminati?
Winning logic there.

Sofa_King Good

zakah1 wrote: »

You didnt even watch the video and you're "skeptical"???

You want evidence for what, that he is a Zionist?
.

More Obama appointees.

From the Pakistani Daily Times; By Khalid Hasan

"WASHINGTON: Another of President-elect Barack Obama’s appointments has been greeted with disbelief by Pakistani-Americans and liberal members of the Indian community because Sonal Shah, the adviser picked up by Obama for his transition team, is known for her links to communal Hindu organisations.

Vishwa Hari Parishad (VHP) and its student wing Bajrang Dal are believed to have been involved in the massacre of over 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat and for the last three months have been carrying out a sustained campaign against Indian Christians in Orissa.

Sonal Shah has been the national coordinator for VHP-America and her father has been associated with the Overseas Friends of the BJP. Further, her organisation IndiCorps works with a VHP-sponsored initiative called the Ekal Vidyalayas – or single-teacher schools with a curriculum steeped in instilling hatred against non-Hindu religious minorities. Ekal Vidyalayas have played a key role in anti-minority violence in the states of Orissa and Madhya Pradesh. IndiCorps founders also have a close relationship with controversial Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

According to Vijay Prashad, Chairman of South Asian history and director of international studies at Trinity College, Hartford, Connecticut, Sonal Shah’s Houston-based parents were “not only in the ecumenical Gujarati Samaj, but also in the far more cruel organisations of the Hindu Right, such as the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the Overseas Friends of the BJP and the Ekal Vidyalaya.

Shah’s parents, Ramesh and Kokila, not only work as volunteers for these outfits, but they also held positions of authority in them. Their daughter was not far behind. She was an active member of the VHPA, the US branch of the most virulently fascistic outfit within India. The VHP’s head, Ashok Singhal, believes that his organisation should ‘inculcate a fear psychosis among (India’s) Muslim community.’ This was Shah’s boss.

Till 2001, Shah was the National Coordinator of the VHPA.” In 2004, the hard Right government in Gujarat honoured Shah with the Pride of Gujarat (Gujarat Garima) award.”


Dennis Ross; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED2aaB9l878

zakah1

King Mob wrote: »

So supporting Israel = Illuminati?
Winning logic there.

Well that proves he is a Zionist.

As for the Illuminati they were the ones who created Zionism. Obama belongs to the Illuminati royal bloodlines, he is related to Bush, Cheney and others in the family through his mothers side.

I have actually made another video explaining how the Illuminati links to Zionism, and to Obama:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SzitTrNjzzY
(watch all 3 parts or else you wont understand the video)

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

Obama belongs to the Illuminati royal bloodlines, he is related to Bush, Cheney and others in the family through his mothers side.

That is pure and utter bull****. You have anything in the slightest to back this up? (I'm talking actual verifiable evidence.)

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

That is pure and utter bull****. You have anything in the slightest to back this up? (I'm talking actual verifiable evidence.)

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

Yes that a list of his ancestors. What's your point?

zakah1

Obama himself admitted that he is related to Cheney, its not even a secret so I dont know why you are denying it.

Heres a vodeo of Cheneys wife talking about it: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0V_2kZzNA

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

Obama himself admitted that he is related to Cheney, its not even a secret so I dont know why you are denying it.

Heres a vodeo of Cheneys wife talking about it: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0V_2kZzNA

8th cousins. Not exactly close. But do you have any evidence for this "Illuminati royal bloodlines" nonsense?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Yes that a list of his ancestors. What's your point?

Bush family common ancestors - "6162 Samuel Hinckley, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 31 Oct. 1662
m. Hawkhurst, co. Kent, 17 May 1617 6163 Sarah Soole, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 18 Aug. 1656

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Bush family common ancestors - "6162 Samuel Hinckley, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 31 Oct. 1662
m. Hawkhurst, co. Kent, 17 May 1617 6163 Sarah Soole, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 18 Aug. 1656

Where you getting this from?

Also 1656 and 1662? If you go back that far I'm probably related to Bush and Obama.

And who exactly does this prove that he's part of Illuminati royalty?

zakah1

King Mob wrote: »

Where you getting this from?

Also 1656 and 1662? If you go back that far I'm probably related to Bush and Obama.

And who exactly does this prove that he's part of Illuminati royalty?

If you look into his ancestors (who are also the ancestors of Bush, Kerry, Cheney, and many other famous politicians and even actors) youll find that they were the kings of idol worshipping pagans.

Pharaohs, Kings, even Alexander the Great belonged to this bloodline. They believe only they have the right to rule over humanity.

zakah1

zakah1 wrote: »

If you look into his ancestors (who are also the ancestors of Bush, Kerry, Cheney, and many other famous politicians and even actors) youll find that they were the kings of idol worshipping pagans.

Pharaohs, Kings, even Alexander the Great belonged to this bloodline. They believe only they have the right to rule over humanity.

Evidence? Anything at all?
How do you know "They believe only they have the right to rule over humanity" exactly?

Mahatma coat

OK Mob, before I join this debat I will ASK YOU Have you watched the youtube documentaries that the OP posted, the thing that we are discussing in this thread, I havent yet so I wont get into a debate about them, but I am going to tonight when I get home.

Mahatma coat

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK Mob, before I join this debat I will ASK YOU Have you watched the youtube documentaries that the OP posted, the thing that we are discussing in this thread, I havent yet so I wont get into a debate about them, but I am going to tonight when I get home.

Nope. Given this guy's arguments here I don't think I want to invest the time or bandwidth.
But if he's done the research I'm sure he can post the evidence for this Illuminati royalty stuff, if it exists.


Edit: watched the first video posted. "Kabbalist witchcraft religion of the jews." Seriously?

Mahatma coat

OK then

raise the ponts that you hade contention with in the first part of the video.

We'll do this one vid at a time if that eats into your precious time less

Mahatma coat

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK then

raise the ponts that you hade contention with in the first part of the video.

We'll do this one vid at a time if that eats into your precious time less

What the complete misrepresentation of kabbalah and the jewish people?
And the evidence the Jewish Illuminati founded America: There's a star of David on the dollar.
Then there's a whole bunch of speculation on an unproven premise.
Then a nice little non sequiter at the end with some 9/11 silliness.

Do you actually realise what kind of nonsense you are defending MC?
We're talking David Icke levels of ridiculous.

Diogenes

Mahatma Coat wrote:

raise the ponts that you hade contention with in the first part of the video.

Here's one of his claims

zakah1 wrote: »

Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff

He claims Emanuel served in the Israeli Army.


Emanuel never served in the Israeli Army he was 12 when the six day war occured.

Shall we try another basic factual error, it's little surprising that our one remaining active mod is so quick to defend anti semitism.

Sofa_King Good

Diogenes wrote: »

Here's one of his claims



He claims Emanuel served in the Israeli Army.


Emanuel never served in the Israeli Army he was 12 when the six day war occured.

Shall we try another basic factual error, it's little surprising that our one remaining active mod is so quick to defend anti semitism.

Israel has had an army since the six day war you know. As far as I am aware he did offer to join the Israeli army, can't remember exactly if it ever came about. He is definitely the son of an Israeli resistance/terrorist Irgun.Also, may I ask where the anti semitism is?

Diogenes

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Israel has had an army since the six day war you know. As far as I am aware he did offer to join the Israeli army, can't remember exactly if it ever came about.

So you've no evidence then?

I mentioned the six day war because he was in Israeli at the time. There was a stream of volunteers from around the world volunteered to join the IDF at the time.

He is definitely the son of an Israeli resistance/terrorist Irgun.

A friend of mine regularly has his Idi Amin's nephew over to babysit her children, should she not do so, on the off chance he might murder them.

Also, may I ask where the anti semitism is?

This forum allows casual anti semitism. If someone is a Jew, many members of this forum, assume that they are therefore automatically a hardline Zionist hell bent on genocide.

Kernel

King Mob wrote: »

Evidence? Anything at all?
How do you know "They believe only they have the right to rule over humanity" exactly?

He gives you evidence, you want evidence of something else, until you find a point to which there is no evidence, and disregard all his other points. Similar ****e from Diogenes, picking and choosing points and evidence in order to appear to be correct in the end, jokers. :rolleyes:

Kernel

Kernel wrote: »

He gives you evidence, you want evidence of something else, until you find a point to which there is no evidence, and disregard all his other points. Similar ****e from Diogenes, picking and choosing points and evidence in order to appear to be correct in the end, jokers. :rolleyes:

And what evidence did he supply of "Illuminati royal bloodlines" did he provide exactly? You know that being a central point to his theory and all.

Kernel

King Mob wrote: »

And what evidence did he supply of "Illuminati royal bloodlines" did he provide exactly? You know that being a central point to his theory and all.

He's supplied evidence to most of your and Diogenes' questions, which you whittle down and disregard, focusing on the point which cannot be proven in your mind. Illuminati = secret organisation. Secret organisations by definition tend not to scatter evidence of their existence or intentions to the profane. Either way, I'm wasting my time and I know it.

Kernel

Kernel wrote: »

He's supplied evidence to most of your and Diogenes' questions, which you whittle down and disregard, focusing on the point which cannot be proven in your mind. Illuminati = secret organisation. Secret organisations by definition tend not to scatter evidence of their existence or intentions to the profane. Either way, I'm wasting my time and I know it.

Seems your definition of evidence is different to mine.
The only thing he has shown evidence for is that Cheney's wife said he and Obama are very distant cousins and that Obama has some Jews in his cabinet. Oh and showed that he likes to take quote very much out of context.

He has yet to show any evidence for a zionist controlled media, a zionist created USA or the Illuminati bloodlines nonsense.
And if he doesn't have evidence for this due to cover ups or whatever know exactly does he know about it?

Have you actually seen the videos btw? Do you realise the absolute nonsense you defending?

Gazza22

Top marks for imagination

Nick_oliveri

Im actually surprised hes being so quiet about the issue. Its fairly stupid that the next American president has no comment on such an event. Looks like it might smear peoples opinions. Change indeed.

Nick_oliveri

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

Im actually surprised hes being so quiet about the issue. Its fairly stupid that the next American president has no comment on such an event. Looks like it might smear peoples opinions. Change indeed.

Which issue? The one in Gaza?

Sofa_King Good

Diogenes wrote: »

So you've no evidence then?

Do now, "The prospective chief-of-staff himself volunteered to serve in Israel's army during the first Gulf War of 1991 - rust-proofing brakes in northern military bases, Israeli media reports. " - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7702408.stm

Diogenes wrote: »

I mentioned the six day war because he was in Israeli at the time. There was a stream of volunteers from around the world volunteered to join the IDF at the time.

Fair enough.

Diogenes wrote: »

A friend of mine regularly has his Idi Amin's nephew over to babysit her children, should she not do so, on the off chance he might murder them.

Man you've got some interesting friends. The apple never falls far from the tree, especially in politics. Proof that his father was a murdering zionist is not proof that Rahm is, but it is a very good indicator.

Diogenes wrote: »

This forum allows casual anti semitism. If someone is a Jew, many members of this forum, assume that they are therefore automatically a hardline Zionist hell bent on genocide.

I don't I have great respect for these non-zionist Jews.

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/1231029 ...
http://anilnetto.com/uncategorized/huge-anti-war-p ...

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Do now, "The prospective chief-of-staff himself volunteered to serve in Israel's army during the first Gulf War of 1991 - rust-proofing brakes in northern military bases, Israeli media reports. " - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7702408.stm

Didn't you claim that the BBC is controlled by the Zionists?
Why do you use it as a source?

Sofa_King Good

King Mob wrote: »

Didn't you claim that the BBC is controlled by the Zionists?
Why do you use it as a source?

I am pandering. Besides, I was looking for a BBC report on the Israeli's use of white phosporous, war crime. Doesn't seem to be there

Diogenes

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

Do now, "The prospective chief-of-staff himself volunteered to serve in Israel's army during the first Gulf War of 1991 - rust-proofing brakes in northern military bases, Israeli media reports. " - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7702408.stm

So there's a claim he apparently volunteered for military service in 1991, at er, the age of 41?


[wuote]
Man you've got some interesting friends. The apple never falls far from the tree, especially in politics.
[/quote]

Conjecture speculation and ignorance. This kid is a nice kind bright sweet kid, who's uncle tried to murder his father.

Proof that his father was a murdering zionist is not proof that Rahm is, but it is a very good indicator.

Thats a piece of contemptible logic. "Have you no humanity?" (sic) Is a son guilty for the sins of his father?

Your reasonings is both contemptible and unreasonable in any civilized society

I don't I have great respect for these non-zionist Jews.

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/1231029 ...
http://anilnetto.com/uncategorized/huge-anti-war-p ...

And yet you are willing to sanction or condone language on this forum which suggests that every jew is a zionist.

Sofa_King Good

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

I am pandering. Besides, I was looking for a BBC report on the Israeli's use of white phosporous, war crime. Doesn't seem to be there

Here's a scary mind blowing thought. Maybe they don't?

You seem perfectly willing to quote the BBC when they seem to support your theories but cry conspiracy any time they show evidence against them. Why is that?

Nick_oliveri

King Mob wrote: »

Which issue? The one in Gaza?

Oh.. I got my threads mixed! But yes, Gaza.

Nick_oliveri

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

I am pandering. Besides, I was looking for a BBC report on the Israeli's use of white phosporous, war crime. Doesn't seem to be there

No, its "legal" if they use it as a "smokescreen". Evil **** it is. There is a thread about it on the military forum and the last few pages of the politics thread mention it.

Nick_oliveri

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

Oh.. I got my threads mixed! But yes, Gaza.

We got to remember he ain't president just yet and has been on holiday according to the BBC. But hopefully he'll clarify his position soon.

Sofa_King Good

Diogenes wrote: »

So there's a claim he apparently volunteered for military service in 1991, at er, the age of 41? /quote]
YEah, 5'5 too, what difference does age make?


[wuote]
Man you've got some interesting friends. The apple never falls far from the tree, especially in politics.

Diogenes wrote: »

Conjecture speculation and ignorance. This kid is a nice kind bright sweet kid, who's uncle tried to murder his father.

Apologies for the misunderstanding. I have no doubt. I'd like to make clear I was making reference to Emanuel not the babysitter.

Diogenes wrote: »

Thats a piece of contemptible logic. "Have you no humanity?" (sic) Is a son guilty for the sins of his father?

Course not. However, I feel he is very likely to be influenced by his fathers extremist ideals. Emanuel has sins all of his own making.

Diogenes wrote: »

Your reasonings is both contemptible and unreasonable in any civilized society

Harsh.

Diogenes wrote: »

And yet you are willing to sanction or condone language on this forum which suggests that every jew is a zionist.

Absolutely not. Example, http://www.nkusa.org/. That is not to say some jews are zionist.

zakah1

King Mob wrote: »

What the complete misrepresentation of kabbalah and the jewish people?
And the evidence the Jewish Illuminati founded America: There's a star of David on the dollar.
Then there's a whole bunch of speculation on an unproven premise.

On that video I just showed clips of a longer video of Texe Marrs that provides a lot of evidence for Israel controlling the US.

Here is the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8328286859954313844&ei=QJNiSbbyDKj22wKH0ZWXBQ&q=mystery+babylon&hl=en

Diogenes wrote: »

Here's one of his claim.

He claims Emanuel served in the Israeli Army.


Emanuel never served in the Israeli Army he was 12 when the six day war occured.
.

This was stated by a number of people, but denied by Emanuel himself, however at the very least he worked in the Israeli Defence Force, which is no better than being in the Army, so either way he is loyal to Israel and is a Zionist.

King Mob wrote: »

Then a nice little non sequiter at the end with some 9/11 silliness. .

If you still believe the official 9/11 story, then I guess there is really no point arguing with you.

zakah1

Diogenes wrote: »

This forum allows casual anti semitism. If someone is a Jew, many members of this forum, assume that they are therefore automatically a hardline Zionist hell bent on genocide.

Iactually expose Anti-semitism. Arabs are Semites, Zionists are racist against Arabs, so Zionists are the real anti-semites. Not to mention the fact that many Zionists themselves are not semites at all...

Diogenes wrote: »

And yet you are willing to sanction or condone language on this forum which suggests that every jew is a zionist.

lol, when did I ever say or even imply that every Jew is a Zionist???

A Zionist is someone who believes Jews have the right to occupy Palestine/Israel simply for being Jews and the Arabs living there should just shup up or be killed.

There are many Jews who are against Zionism, but Obamas Jewish friends are themselves Zionists, as is Obama himself. Even Biden who is not Jewish actually admitted that he is still a Zionist despite being a gentile.

So although most Zionists are Jewish, not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists.

Also the term "Jew" is hard to define as it is used for a religion and a supposed "race" (actually many races, as there are black Jews, brown Jews and white Jews...)

King Mob wrote: »

We got to remember he ain't president just yet and has been on holiday according to the BBC. But hopefully he'll clarify his position soon.

He has praised Israel numerous times and calls Paletinian resistance "terrorism". He is very deceptive, trying to appear "different" when in fact if anything he is worse than Bush as he is very deceptive.