Windows 7

Gadgetman496

Deleted User wrote: »

The best thing about vista is the search function in my opinion though. At the top right of all the windows you open and on the start menu (though that's just my opinion obviously. I'm sure there's a lot more to operating systems than how they look, haha)

You can install Windows Search 4.0 on XP too.

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ynotdu

I installed windows 7 RC about two weeks ago on a laptop that was preinstalled with Vista,So far it is proving to be very realiable,much more than the Vista OS was,but it is early days.(I have the Vista re-installation dvd and the utilities and drivers dvd though)
Everything has been said on this thread,but somethings are worth repeating:

the Beta release is not the RC1 now available.
RC1 has only been available for a short time and will stop working properly at end of march 2010(the RC stands for Release Candidate 1,for those who might not know)
Microsofts targeted date for release of the product is oct 23 2009(in the US anyway)

It is only recommended that the RC be used on a 2nd spare computer.

Proably most important is a lot of the final version of w7 will work on touch screen monitors on computers not on the market yet so best to wait until ya need a new computer,rather than buy the OS alone.
As I said early days but so far I like windows 7.

Capt'n Midnight

ynotdu wrote:

Proably most important is a lot of the final version of w7 will work on touch screen monitors on computers not on the market yet so best to wait until ya need a new computer,rather than buy the OS alone.
As I said early days but so far I like windows 7.

Touch screen has been around for a very long time, tablet pc's, windows CE, the original IBM XT had light pen support before there were touch screens.

ynotdu

When news of Windows 7's XP Mode was revealed, there was much rejoicing among those who were concerned about legacy support. However, it appears that XP mode won't do everything many hoped it would, and will be unavailable to many Intel users. (Source: theinquirer.net)
Windows 7's XP Mode (also known as "XPM") is a virtualization feature that will allow some users of Windows 7 Premium to run Windows XP apps in a virtual machine. However, it appears that Microsoft may be rushing a technology that is receiving spotty support from chipmakers Intel and AMD. (Source: cio.com)
There is a very good chance that businesses buying a fleet of Windows 7 PCs will find out that the processors in those brand new machines do not support virtualization.
XPM Could Be "Vista Capable" Fiasco, Part II

PCs equipped with CPUs that do not support Intel VT (Intel Virtualization Technology) or AMD-V (AMD Virtualization) won't be able to run Windows XP Mode in Windows 7. Most AMD chips reportedly support AMD-V, but Intel chips are more complicated and do not include virtualization support across the board. (Source: cio.com)

IT managers wanting to run XP Mode in Windows 7 will have to make sure computers have the correct chip installed. An explanation of the XP Mode CPU problem and a list of Intel chips supporting virtualization can be found from ZDNet. Many of Intel's newer chips do not support virtualization.
There is a very good chance that Windows 7 XP Mode could end up being Microsoft's next "Vista Capable" fiasco. Users wishing to purchase versions of Windows 7 capable of running XP Mode will have to pay careful attention to the hardware in their PCs and may end up having to purchase new ones. (Source: itwire.com)

Dyr

The pc's im running support virtualization and they were bought maybe 2-3 years ago, long before windows 7 was on the horizon. It's should be a non issue unless your IT dept didnt pay attention to their model spec beyond processor speed :pac:


I've been playing with virtual XP on 7 its not bad..oddly enough it refuses to accept that Ive installed chrome on my XP virtual machine...hmmmm..

Just on the licensing again..Im gonna install 7 on home PC tonight. Dual boot it with my exisiting XP installation. I'm kinda hoping that come next june the 7 installation will only nix itself, it's not gonna disable the boot menu or boot sector after a while....:eek:

Intel's VT support is certainly patchy. The Q8200 doesn't support it but the older Q6600 does. There doesn't seem to be any real explanation for this, it's probably just marketing. My PC and laptop (E6420 and P8600 respectively) are VT enabled so it doesn't really affect me personally.

ethernet

Bambi wrote: »

The pc's im running support virtualization and they were bought maybe 2-3 years ago, long before windows 7 was on the horizon. It's should be a non issue unless your IT dept didnt pay attention to their model spec beyond processor speed :pac: ...

True, but how many IT departments would ever expect the clients to be running virtual machines any time soon when purchasing the hardware?

Paul Thurrot discussed this recently on the Windows Weekly podcast. It would appear that some of the more expensive processors won't support the technology.

Tea_Bag

Bambi wrote: »

Im gonna install 7 on home PC tonight. Dual boot it with my exisiting XP installation. I'm kinda hoping that come next june the 7 installation will only nix itself, it's not gonna disable the boot menu or boot sector after a while....:eek:

I'm planning on doing the same thing, but my HDD isnt partitioned. is there a program that'll do a partition with little fuss? i dont really want to format the whole HDD..

Dyr

posting from 7 on my home pc now..that install is fast..maybe 20 minutes

It flipped my partitions though. My XP c:\ is now the d\: and vice versa but it if I boot into XP the partitions are as they were...odd

Bambi

Bambi wrote: »

posting from 7 on my home pc now..that install is fast..maybe 20 minutes

It flipped my partitions though. My XP c:\ is now the d\: and vice versa but it if I boot into XP the partitions are as they were...odd

Yeah Vista and 7 always make their own system drive the C: drive regardless of where it is on the disk.

Dyr

Tea_Bag wrote: »

I'm planning on doing the same thing, but my HDD isnt partitioned. is there a program that'll do a partition with little fuss? i dont really want to format the whole HDD..

this article mentions a tool for partitioning..never used it though

http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista

AlmightyCushion

Tea_Bag wrote: »

I'm planning on doing the same thing, but my HDD isnt partitioned. is there a program that'll do a partition with little fuss? i dont really want to format the whole HDD..

I used paragon partition manager before. Does the job. Vista has a built in partition manager though.

Tea_Bag

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I used paragon partition manager before. Does the job. Vista has a built in partition manager though.

If i download the "try now" version paragon, does the partition suddenly dissappear after i dunno, say 30 days. or does it leave watermarks of any kind making me pay for the program?

AlmightyCushion

Tea_Bag wrote: »

If i download the "try now" version paragon, does the partition suddenly dissappear after i dunno, say 30 days. or does it leave watermarks of any kind making me pay for the program?

Don't really know. It can't delete the partition after thirty days. It might limit the size of a partition or limit some of the functions.

Tea_Bag

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Don't really know. It can't delete the partition after thirty days. It might limit the size of a partition or limit some of the functions.

perfect thanks for the advice/info

AlmightyCushion

Tea_Bag wrote: »

perfect thanks for the advice/info

Glad I can help.

ynotdu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/8063436.stm

mick.fr

Thinking of upgrading tonight...
Are Vista drivers compatible with Windows 7 and also anyone knows if Virtual PC 2007 works on 7?

Cheers in advance

mick.fr

mick.fr wrote: »

Thinking of upgrading tonight...
Are Vista drivers compatible with Windows 7 and also anyone knows if Virtual PC 2007 works on 7?

Cheers in advance

Vista drivers should work but my IDT HD Audio drivers don't so need to use the generic driver on my laptop.

Virtual PC 2007 doesn't work, it's hard blocked. It installs but won't start.

mick.fr

Karsini wrote: »

Vista drivers should work but my IDT HD Audio drivers don't so need to use the generic driver on my laptop.

Virtual PC 2007 doesn't work, it's hard blocked. It installs but won't start.

Oki cheers mate for the feedback

Amalgam

Karsini wrote: »

Virtual PC 2007 doesn't work, it's hard blocked. It installs but won't start.

I wonder why.. :rolleyes: Good ol' Microsoft..

AlmightyCushion

Amalgam wrote: »

I wonder why.. :rolleyes: Good ol' Microsoft..

Are you implying that Microsoft are deliberately blocking it? I can't see any reason why they would.

Amalgam

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Are you implying that Microsoft are deliberately blocking it? I can't see any reason why they would.

Nested XP virtualization is being touted as the second coming for Windows 7, obviously the low end products will not ship with it.. $$$

Ginger

Cant you just mount the the VHD anyways? by installing the virtualisation software (which unfortunately I found needs to be active through the bios)

JohnK

That assumes your CPU supports virtualisation in the first place which many (most?) dont. My Windows 7 laptop was perfectly capable of running virtual machines under XP but now Windows 7 seems to think its just not possible. Its a pain in the arse to be honest and is the reason I've not migrated my main machine to Win7.

A side issue of Windows 7 requiring hardware virtualisation is that Windows 95 VMs no longer boot. Virtual PC 2007 gave the option to disable virtualisation which was required for 95.

Nick_oliveri

Im loving this TBH. I had the beta installed until a couple of days ago. For some reason my computer wont boot from disc in IDE mode, had to set it to ACHI mode in the bios. But no matter. I have noticed that installing Win7 RC/Beta is a slow process.

There isnt really much difference that I can see between the old beta and the new RC. They have done well and I am happy to freeload of this OS until 2010! Also, im raging I didn't request a decent queuing system for file transfer... Much like a FTP window with a "send to queue" context menu in explorer.

Ginger

My install took 20 mins tops..

As for the virtualisation, that is an issue.. I am looking at the XPM beta at the moment to see what its like and cant run it due to needing the virtualisation switch turned on in the BIOS which is locked by our corporate security policy. That laptop is an Intel based machine, so I might try it on my AMD workstation to see

intars

i'm running windows 7 rc on my samsung nc20 and i must say everything is great so far.

5uspect

The install time can vary depending on your DVD drive drivers and if Win7 recognises them. It installed in 15-20 minutes or so on my crappy old Dell but took nearly an hour on my new build.