Dan & Becs - out now on DVD

amdublin

And people would spend their hard earned money on this, why???

I'm flabergasted.

It's bad enough that RTE show this rubbish. But thinking people will buy a DVD of it. They have some cheek! :eek:

abouttobebanned

Well you were just watching it weren't you? I mean that's how you know it's out now on dvd...

Utopia Parkway

amdublin wrote: »

And people would spend their hard earned money on this, why???

To use as a fashionable coaster?

To use to show aspiring actors how not to act?

Karoma

Try imagine, just for one teeny tiny second, (just entertain the thought) that not every single person thinks like and likes what you like and dislikes what you like. Image then that they like it, and they want to buy it. Imagine.

xOxSinéadxOx

Karoma wrote: »

Try imagine, just for one teeny tiny second, (just entertain the thought) that not every single person thinks like and likes what you like and dislikes what you like. Image then that they like it, and they want to buy it. Imagine.

true! I like dan and becs

Sandwich

Gotta disagree with you. ONly saw it on TV though, didnt fork out my own hard-earned.

Dan and Becs wasnt bad at all. Ross O'Carrol Kelly without the lampooning. Made it a pretty decent picture of an element of celtic tiger Ireland in the Dalkey-Sandymount-Rathmines triangle. For two kids and a handheld camera, made with a budget of the leftovers from someone elses bag of peanuts, quite a worthy effort.

ronnie3585

Didn't think it was that bad, it had some funny moments. Loved the names of Bec's friends and their accents.

Plus, Becs is exceedingly hot:)

TheBlock

I thought it quite funny in places. The Howya version being filmed may be worth watching also..

vivadeadponies

It was okay for RTE

once I seen Marion and Geoff though my opinion of it dropped hugely

xOxSinéadxOx

I bet the OP was watching. As I said I do like it but I don't really understand why anybody would buy the dvd?

phenomenon

Its a woeful show and anyone who watches it has a terrible taste in comedy.
That said it could perhaps translate into a radio podcast type show. The producers don't take advantage of the visual element at all, its just a guy and girl telling anecdotes into the camera.

It would be ideal to listen to in bed while falling asleep.... :pac:

monkeyfudge

I thought it was quite good.

Along with Paths of Glory it's about the only decent comedy RTÉ has come out with in recent memory.

Holsten

Stupid show, stupid actors.

Your ones voice... jesus I don't think I've ever heard something so annoying.

Leaderbored

Not a huge fan, but I cant agree with the "Stupid show / stupid actors" comment.

I found it watchable, and having seen the 2 leads interviewed, I thought the difference between their on-screen persona's and their actual personalities was quite striking. They did (on-screen) put me in mind of the swarms of Rugby oafs and Stepford Trophy girlfriends that I was unfortunate enough to have to regularly deal with in the Stillorgan / Foxrock area recently.

To annoy me that much, they'd have to be quite good actors.

godtabh

Karoma wrote: »

Try imagine, just for one teeny tiny second, (just entertain the thought) that not every single person thinks like and likes what you like and dislikes what you like. Image then that they like it, and they want to buy it. Imagine.

People find that hard when the world rotates around them

K4t

I used to blast Dan and Becs. Then I took the time to sit down and watch an episode and it was actually very good. I don't think I'd buy the DVD but hopefully there is more to come from those two in the future.

Utopia Parkway

Leaderbored wrote: »

Not a huge fan, but I cant agree with the "Stupid show / stupid actors" comment.

I found it watchable, and having seen the 2 leads interviewed, I thought the difference between their on-screen persona's and their actual personalities was quite striking. They did (on-screen) put me in mind of the swarms of Rugby oafs and Stepford Trophy girlfriends that I was unfortunate enough to have to regularly deal with in the Stillorgan / Foxrock area recently.

To annoy me that much, they'd have to be quite good actors.

I saw the girl that played Becs in that thing RTE did about sending young actors to Hollywood and she sounded exactly like Becs albeit a slightly toned down version. I don't think it was that much of a stretch for her to play that part. Still found her acting terribly wooden though.

Syferus

Sandwich wrote: »

Gotta disagree with you. ONly saw it on TV though, didnt fork out my own hard-earned.

Dan and Becs wasnt bad at all. Ross O'Carrol Kelly without the lampooning. Made it a pretty decent picture of an element of celtic tiger Ireland in the Dalkey-Sandymount-Rathmines triangle. For two kids and a handheld camera, made with a budget of the leftovers from someone elses bag of peanuts, quite a worthy effort.

Absolutely agree.
Only saw it for the first time today and you can easily tell for what it is it's pretty impressive.
There's such an in-grained hatred of Irish produced shows on Boards.ie that whent the odd show that is obviously not bad comes along people can't remove the blinkers.

It's Irish and it has Irish cultural touchstones, more than any foreign comedies, and comparing it to those same big budget US comedies and dramadies is nothing short of idiotic - especially when the conversation centres on how low-fi the show is.

2fivers

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I saw the girl that played Becs in that thing RTE did about sending young actors to Hollywood and she sounded exactly like Becs albeit a slightly toned down version. I don't think it was that much of a stretch for her to play that part.

In fairness, theres a bit more to acting than "sounding like" your intended character.

Frank Carson sounds a bit like Ian Paisley, but is unfortunately unlikely to play him on-screen any time soon.

(And to be fair, if this had been an in-house rte comedy production with Rte writers, they wouldn't have had a qualm about putting two ac-tors from Galway or wherever in the parts, pretending to be from the money belt, and as a consequence, they wouldn't have been as familiar with the day-to-day source material as the two leads were, and it would have been the usual embarrassing rte comedy. )

It's not the funniest nor most original thing I've ever seen, but at least it steals from creditable sources, and it's far from poisonous.

Het-Field

I found his discussion about his "life changing" 7 days in Peru particularly amusing.

Its exactly the same reaction as Southside J1ers have on their return from New York or San Diego.

Then you discover that the lesson learn was "the importance of not being poor" !

moe_sizlak

im a culchie myself and i really enjoyed dan and becs anytime i watched it , found it to be a clever and warm comedy

Climate Expert

Karoma wrote: »

Try imagine, just for one teeny tiny second, (just entertain the thought) that not every single person thinks like and likes what you like and dislikes what you like. Image then that they like it, and they want to buy it. Imagine.

Well why can't I get Baywatch Nights on DVD then? Thats right, because it is complete **** and there is no demand for it.

Syferus

Climate Expert wrote: »

Well why can't I get Baywatch Nights on DVD then? Thats right, because it is complete **** and there is no demand for it.

Great work on the non sequitur.
The comparison is plaintively wrong in the sense that the series is already on DVD and as this thread has shown alot of people do like the show.

Sorrrrrry.

Yakuza

Holsten wrote: »

Stupid show, stupid actors.

Your ones voice... jesus I don't think I've ever heard something so annoying.

I think some people are missing the point, they're *drumroll* ...acting...look it up...here, I've done it for you.

It's a comedy, a parody, she's supposed to be annoying, which means she's doing her job perfectly well! She is a fine actress (in all senses of the word!).

I think it's a great show, done on a shoestring budget.

Climate Expert

Syferus wrote: »

Great work on the non sequitur.
The comparison is plaintively wrong in the sense that the series is already on DVD and as this thread has shown alot of people do like the show.

Sorrrrrry.

No, its just RTE misreading demand. And any body who uses the term non sequitur is a bit of a cock.

Syferus

Climate Expert wrote: »

No, its just RTE misreading demand. And any body who uses the term non sequitur is a bit of a cock.

So I should just say 'you transitioned from one topic to another without basis'? Or will that make the 'peeps' feel inferior too?

And it costs next to nothing for RTE to release DVDs of it's home-grown productions, so a cost arguement is futile - even if you don't like the show, the DVDs will recoup some of the money used in making the show.

mikemac

post retracted, I was unaware I was breaching the charter.

I will add I watch historical documentaries on that site that are not available to buy in Ireland so it has its uses

Climate Expert

mikemac wrote: »

If you don't want to buy the DVD it's all up on youtube anyway
Seeing as the episodes were so short, it's an ideal sort of show to have on youtube.

So if you likeit but don't want to spend anything above your internet connection fee, you now know where to go.

Suggesting sites for copyrighted material is a banning offence.

Yakuza

Climate Expert wrote: »

No, its just RTE misreading demand. And any body who uses the term non sequitur is a bit of a cock.

Climate Expert wrote: »

Suggesting sites for copyrighted material is a banning offence.

What about thinly-disguised insults?

Sully

I found it funny but not something id invest on buying on DVD. Just something to flick onto for a quick laugh.

Holsten

Yakuza wrote: »

I think some people are missing the point, they're *drumroll* ...acting...look it up...here, I've done it for you.

It's a comedy, a parody, she's supposed to be annoying, which means she's doing her job perfectly well! She is a fine actress (in all senses of the word!).

I think it's a great show, done on a shoestring budget.

Bad acting.

And she sounds like that when she is not "acting".

It's just an annoying accent.

phenomenon

Syferus wrote: »

Absolutely agree.
Only saw it for the first time today and you can easily tell for what it is it's pretty impressive.
There's such an in-grained hatred of Irish produced shows on Boards.ie that whent the odd show that is obviously not bad comes along people can't remove the blinkers.

From reading some of your posts in this forum you'd swear you were an RTE employee. Out of interest what other shows do you consider "good comedy"? Dans & Becs is right up there with the Roaring Twenties for the illustrious sack o' shíte award. Remove your rose tinted glasses and consider for a second that maybe the majority of boards' users are right in their judgement of the show. Or maybe we've just been spoiled with actual funny shows by the BBC and Channel 4.

Also I don't accept your excuse of a "shoestring budget" for the show being utter cack. Podge & Rodge: scare at Bedtime was always worth a few laughs back in the day and it was shamelessy low-budget. Its also proof that decent comedy can blossom from the cesspool that is RTE studios. I won't hesitate to give a good show props, but RTE have their heads up their arses at the moment. They need to stop hiring pompous communications degree graduates who try to tell us whats funny and bring some real creative talent. Walk into any pub in the city on a friday night and you'll encounter dozens of witty characters who could better scripts than Dan & Becs.

Syferus

phenomenon wrote: »

From reading some of your posts in this forum you'd swear you were an RTE employee. Out of interest what other shows do you consider "good comedy"? Dans & Becs is right up there with the Roaring Twenties for the illustrious sack o' shíte award. Remove your rose tinted glasses and consider for a second that maybe the majority of boards' users are right in their judgement of the show. Or maybe we've just been spoiled with actual funny shows by the BBC and Channel 4.

Also I don't accept your excuse of a "shoestring budget" for the show being utter cack. Podge & Rodge: scare at Bedtime was always worth a few laughs back in the day and it was shamelessy low-budget. Its also proof that decent comedy can blossom from the cesspool that is RTE studios. I won't hesitate to give a good show props, but RTE have their heads up their arses at the moment. They need to stop hiring pompous communications degree graduates who try to tell us whats funny and bring some real creative talent. Walk into any pub in the city on a friday night and you'll encounter dozens of witty characters who could better scripts than Dan & Becs.

The fact that I'm not by default anti-RTE is so foreign is exemplified by that comment - I've said many times that I'm more neautral about RTE than the vast majority of people here. I've not once said ''RTE's so great!!!!!'' and even attacked them (just to feel included, obviously) on the 'Doom & Gloom' thread. Besides defending this show as not being terrible I thought Barry Murphy's dub-over special was very etertaining, but I even pointed out alot of flaws in that too.

I think Dan & Becs was a very worthy effort, and that's my opinion and your opinion is different - there's clearly no consensus as to which is 'fact'. Just because some people don't like a show does not mean that the people who do should be relegated from having the chance to buy it on DVD, if they so wish. And again, all that does is re-coup some of the money that went into making the 'cack'.

My all-time favourite comedy shows would be Father Ted, Curb Your Enthsiasm, South Park, King of the Hill, Futurama and Faulty Towers. Oh, and I'm also not afraid to admit to still liking Family Guy, just not as rabidly as every drunken 16 year old seems to.

On Britsh comedy - I think it's almost as hit-and-miss as stuff made here. Apart from comedy panel shows, British comedy has a terrible track record too. The US wins hands down, but that too has a good bit to do with the size difference and fact that since far more shows are made, far more hits will appear.

zuroph

also, its been on dvd for the last year.

it was a great show, very well thought out, very witty, and the best comedy since paths to freedom.

I always hate people lambasting this show, they never seem to give the time to give out that podge and rodge costs the taxpayer about 1million squillion times as much.

johnnyskeleton

It is the type of things that will be interesting to watch in years to come. Sort of like watching glenroe now.

So much of what RTE has produced in the last few years has been style dramas about young rich successful people that were more aspiration pieces than realistic drama. As such, in a few years time they will appear comically patronising and self-obsessed.

Syferus

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

It is the type of things that will be interesting to watch in years to come. Sort of like watching glenroe now.

So much of what RTE has produced in the last few years has been style dramas about young rich successful people that were more aspiration pieces than realistic drama. As such, in a few years time they will appear comically patronising and self-obsessed.

Not correct - the show itself was already lampooning that lifestyle.

monkeyfudge

That's the thing... it seems a lot of people don't get the joke at all.

They probably think Ali G is a real person as well.

zuroph

exactly! Dan and becs is quite like alan partridge in its comedy IMO

vivadeadponies

zuroph wrote: »

exactly! Dan and becs is quite like alan partridge in its comedy IMO

or rather Marion & Geoff, by Coogan's good friend Rob Brydon, which it copied:p

Utopia Parkway

zuroph wrote: »

exactly! Dan and becs is quite like alan partridge in its comedy IMO

Well I think we can safely say no to that.:D

Samurai

Anyone see the episode where becs mentions dan posting a "9 page thread on boards.ie"? Suprised no one has mentioned it!


I quite like the show

phasers

I think Dan was pretty funny, but I cannot get past Becs' voice. Nails on a chalkboard.

mehfesto2

Syferus wrote: »

On Britsh comedy - I think it's almost as hit-and-miss as stuff made here. Apart from comedy panel shows, British comedy has a terrible track record too. The US wins hands down, but that too has a good bit to do with the size difference and fact that since far more shows are made, far more hits will appear.

Whoa, Nelly.

The last 15 years of British Comedy has given us:
The Office, Father Ted, Ab Fab, Extras, Alan Partridge, Bottom, Peepshow, Goodness Gracious Me, Men Behaving Badly, Still Game, Ali G, Borat... etc, etc, etc.

Yeah there's some British ****e, but it's usually the midafternoon BBC 'family friendly' stuff. And you have to remember we only get the crop of the American exports, really. And even stil we get stuff like 'My Family, King of Queens and "the US' Biggest Comedy (Paramount Comedy) Two and a Half Men.:pac:

Syferus

mehfesto2 wrote: »

Whoa, Nelly.

The last 15 years of British Comedy has given us:
The Office, Father Ted, Ab Fab, Extras, Alan Partridge, Bottom, Peepshow, Goodness Gracious Me, Men Behaving Badly, Still Game, Ali G, Borat... etc, etc, etc.

Yeah there's some British ****e, but it's usually the midafternoon BBC 'family friendly' stuff. And you have to remember we only get the crop of the American exports, really. And even stil we get stuff like 'My Family, King of Queens and "the US' Biggest Comedy (Paramount Comedy) Two and a Half Men.:pac:

And that is because of the huge difference in money British stations have compared to RTE (the BBC gets about ten times as many people paying its TV license, for example). They make far more, so the raw numbers of good shows is enevitably higher.

To add to that, the fact stations like BBC are able to afford to pilot more shows compared to here, where it still tends to be all or nothing with producing a show, skews the formula more so. Also, of the ones you named, two follow the same style, except transplanting it into a different setting (Extras, The Office), Ali G and Borat where part of the same series, Coogan was genius and Father Ted was an Irish transplant.

And there's more crap coming from the US than anywhere else - with digital and cable TV we get just about it all in some form now - it's just that they dwarf even the UK, meaning the raw numbers of good shows is of magnitudes higher.

Freddie Cork

Syferus wrote: »

Father Ted was an Irish transplant.

What does that mean?

vivadeadponies

Freddie Cork wrote: »

What does that mean?

well it obviously means that it was made by two irish people who gained absolutely nothing from their previous work in England with Paul Whitehouse, Alexei Sayle, Armando Iannucci, Chris Morris, Steve Coogan, Peter Baynham and the rest.

mehfesto2

Syferus wrote: »

And that is because of the huge difference in money British stations have compared to RTE (the BBC gets about ten times as many people paying its TV license, for example). They make far more, so the raw numbers of good shows is enevitably higher.

To add to that, the fact stations like BBC are able to afford to pilot more shows compared to here, where it still tends to be all or nothing with producing a show, skews the formula more so. Also, of the ones you named, two follow the same style, except transplanting it into a different setting (Extras, The Office), Ali G and Borat whee part of the same series, Coogan was genius and Father Ted was an Irish transplant.

And there's more crap coming from the US than anywhere else - with digital and cable TV we get just about it all in some form now - it's just that they dwarf even the UK, meaning the raw numbers of good shows is of magnitudes higher.

And?

My point was merely that British Comedy is not as bad as Irish comedy; not by a long way. I didn't mention anything about finances available etc. Nor did I mention that anything about the 'style' of the programmes. :rolleyes:

Syferus

mehfesto2 wrote: »

And?

My point was merely that British Comedy is not as bad as Irish comedy; not by a long way. I didn't mention anything about finances available etc. Nor did I mention that anything about the 'style' of the programmes. :rolleyes:

And I'm saying 'Irish comedy', as in all it's facets, punches far above its weight today. Ten or twenty years ago it was a completely different argument, but the quaility of the talent per capita is more than on par with Britain. As in Britain, most of the time that talent is mis-used.

Climate Expert

Syferus wrote: »

And I'm saying 'Irish comedy', as in all it's facets, punches far above its weight today. Ten or twenty years ago it was a completely different argument, but the quaility of the talent per capita is more than on par with Britain. As in Britain, most of the time that talent is mis-used.

I would say its about the same which is still far more than the US.

zuroph

Syferus wrote: »

And I'm saying 'Irish comedy', as in all it's facets, punches far above its weight today. Ten or twenty years ago it was a completely different argument, but the quaility of the talent per capita is more than on par with Britain. As in Britain, most of the time that talent is mis-used.

what Irish comedy do you speak of? what current Irish comedy is punching far above its weight?

Syferus

The most prominent ones plying their trade mainly outside the country are obviously Dylan Moran who is among the better stand-ups going arond at the moment, but who also starred and co-wrote Black Books and is more than capable of doing something special and Dara O'Brian, who despite desperately shilling himself to every topical show and compendium going, is still a comedian of the finest standard, Irish or otherwise.

The other obvious one is Graham Linehan and Arthur Matthews, who are most famous for writing, and effectively producing, Father Ted have also had more than a bit of sucess with other shows like The IT Crowd.

And again, you have to take into account the sheer scale of our country - just north of 4 million - compared to even the UK (50 million) let alone the US with a gene pool of 300 million to fish some good comedians and writers from.