HOW TO GET NAT 2 - ZyXEL ROUTER

Lochy6767

To get nat type 2 on ur ps3 follow this step by step guide

NOTE: This guide only applies to the ZyXEL P-660HW - T1 Router. However if this is not the router you have, browse around ur own and look to enable UPnp. This shud still do the job.

1. Type in http://192.168.1.1 into ur address bar on windows explorer/firefox. This will bring u to ur Routers Homepage.
2. Type in ur password which is usually 1234, if u have not changed it.
3. On the left hand side of the page u should see a listing. Click 'advanced'
4. A drop down menu will appear. Select UPnP (Universal Plug and Play).
5. Tick the box for each of the 3 choices.
6. Then hit 'apply'
7. Then go to your Ps3's XMB - Network Settings - Configure settings and enable UPnP if u have not already done so.
8. Then run a Internet Connection Test on ur ps3 and Nat type shud be Nat type 2. If it is not look at the UPnP above it and check if it says 'available'. If it says 'Not Available' ensure u have all 3 boxes ticked on the Routers Homepage.

If u have any problems or questions feel free to leave a comment and ill get back to u ASAP.

grumpytrousers

good man yourself. i did this last week myself after finding that little big planet wasn't letting me do sod all unless i was on NAT 2.

does a chap need to open ports as well. I did, but i'm not sure if i needed to!

i went and upgraded the security (you don't appear to touch on that side of things - not criticising you, btw) too, and that adds a few more layers of confusion.

If the connection test thingy is showing succesful NAT 2, does one need to do this 'DMZ' thing i've read of? And if so, does the Zyxel router allow this?

Lochy6767

I also opened ports but they didnt do anything so i dont think you need to. Updating security shudnt do anything.
Putting ur ps3 into a dmz is just giving it an ip address so when u are typing in ports u assign the ports to the ip address of ur playstation. U shudnt have to do this as the router assigns an ip address to ur ps3 for u. If u do need to know the ip address of ur ps3 go to ur ps3's XMB - settings - network settings - Status. Scroll down and it shud say ip address - 192.168.1.100 r sumthing like that. Mine is 192.168.1.34 but its different for every1.
Did u get ur ps3 to Nat Type 2??

grumpytrousers

i did.
i managed it on my own too, without your help, but i still think that it's great that there's a guide to the zyxel router here, and for that, you got the 'thanks' above. i'm not techie enough to write something like this myself, but i was more or less able to reconcile your steps with what i did myself, so i reckon you've done the punters a service!

I've got nat 2 setup but i think my problem is just that the little brg planet servers are cruddy!

Lochy6767

Just wonderin wud u b able to help me. I have Nat 2 and so does my friend but i cant connect to him and he cant connect to me on Cod5??
Any ideas??

grumpytrousers

i'm gonna spew out random stuff i'd consider. i've not got COD so i don't know any specifics. Is MAC address filtering an issue, perhaps? the only online multiplayer mayhem game i've got is GTA4 and it works fine for me having gone and opened the ports, allowed the mac address and done the NAT 2 thang. I trust you've toddled over to portforward.com for a bit of what they have to say as well, have you?

Lochy6767

yeah i been on port fowarding b4. I might try the specific ports for cod5 and see if that works. Thanks neways

guil

cod waw uses the same ports as cod4

NetLink

Lochy6767 wrote: »

Putting ur ps3 into a dmz is just giving it an ip address so when u are typing in ports u assign the ports to the ip address of ur playstation. U shudnt have to do this as the router assigns an ip address to ur ps3 for u.
Did u get ur ps3 to Nat Type 2??

Hi! Just wanted to correct the above... Putting your device into a DMZ (De-Militarised Zone) doesn't assign an IP address to the device. DHCP does this. DMZ turns off the firewall for that device and opens it up to the Internet making it visible and therefore allowing direct communication between the device and other peers and game servers etc. It's a good idea to put your PS3 into a DMZ because a) you don't have the security risks that you'd have with Windows, Mac & co. b) you don't need to set up port forwarding, and c) it allows for a better connection when playing online multiplayer games like GTA4 and Call of Duty.

Almost all routers act like a firewall. Port forwarding opens the firewall for specific ports and devices. DMZ simply opens up all ports for one specific device. Using either methods you need to configure DHCP to always assign the same internal IP address to the device(s) you're setting up so that DMZ and port forwarding stay applied to those devices only.

Hope that makes sense...

grumpytrousers

Netlink - it is possible to set up a DMZ on a zyxel router?

NetLink

grumpytrousers wrote: »

Netlink - it is possible to set up a DMZ on a zyxel router?

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's possible. Zyxel routers seem a bit complicated to figure out but they definitely have more configurable options than Eircom's Netopia routers. I don't have one myself but had to configure one once. Unfortunately I can't remember the details and I couldn't find any screenshots or emulators.

But have a look through your router settings and check for anything to do with Security, Firewall, DMZ, IP Passthrough, Port Forwarding, etc.

You can get the user guide here:
http://www.zyxel.co.uk/web/download.php?FileName=200409094755792004122110251120040811211941_20060224_3.40-P660H-HW-Tseries_UG_V3-40_2006-2-17.pdf&BuildFlag=head_quarter

This page also states your router has DMZ settings:
http://www.speedguide.net/broadband-view.php?hw=17

In case you don't get anywhere with your router (and I know how competent DigiWeb Broadband Support are!) - if you decide to get a new one, I would recommend a D-Link router. They are very good and reliable and most of them have emulators - i.e. virtual admin interfaces you can log in to from the D-Link website. Just make sure whatever router you get has an RJ11 WAN port to make it easier for you to connect the DSL cable to it.

If I find out any more information about Zyxel P660 in the meantime, I will post here.

NetLink

Just found this for Zyzel P660HWT1:

Log into router --> NAT --> SUA Only --> Edit Details --> add the IP of the DMZ (the IP of your PS3) to the #1 box.

Also to try:

Add 2 firewall rules-

WAN to LAN - allow "Any TCP"
WAN to LAN - allow "Any UDP"

Enable UPnP and "Allow UPnP to pass through firewall"

weemcd

anyone know how to do something similar with an o2 wireless II box?

my ps3 is iffy with it, where it was fine on a netgear router before.

NetLink

Sorry weemcd, never even heard of it 'til now...

grumpytrousers, let me know if you get it working on your Zyxel router. Also, could you tell me how to get into the "Advanced Setup". A friend was asking me about that. He said he couldn't find Advanced Setup and I remembered that it did seem difficult to get into the main menu or sitemap on that router. Do you need to do something on the login page?

grumpytrousers

hey - i tried the "Log into router --> NAT --> SUA Only --> Edit Details --> add the IP of the DMZ (the IP of your PS3) to the #1 box." option you suggested, but there didn't *seem* to be an option to 'Edit Details' after SUA Only.

Didn't try your plan B yet!

Downloaded the manual and there's no sign in the index of a DMZ; perhaps it's a bit of an informal term or something, but when it wasn't there, i began to wonder!

NetLink

Sorry, would love to be able to give you step-by-step instructions but cannot find any useful screenshots of the admin interface anywhere. Have spent hours looking over the past 2 days.

DMZ is a pretty common term and I found it mentioned in the Zyxel manual but not in reference to anything useful.

If you cannot set up a DMZ on your router though, you should be able to get the same effect using Port Forwarding. I think this is how to get there on the P660HW:

Network --> NAT

1. On General tab select SUA only and apply
2. Click on Port Forwarding tab
3. In the IP box enter your PS3s static IP address
4. In Start Port enter "1"
5. In End Port enter "49151"
6. Apply settings and restart router

This should basically open up all the possible ports and forward them to your PS3. Any ports not in use by the PS3 should be blocked by the PS3 itself.

By the way - I had the pleasure yesterday of configuring and testing the D-Link DKT-810 ADSL modem/router. It's very easy to set up and to configure DMZ and firewall settings and works great. It also has the Wireless 802.11N draft mode which is capable of transferring at 200Mbps compared to 54Mbps on the 802.11G mode that we're used to and 100Mbps on standard Ethernet. When I tested it on my laptop I got 130Mbps.

typhoon_2099

I've only just managed to get this to work.Upnp hasn't worked how it should for ages now and the reason was I'd switched off Anti-Probing (I think). I set the router to respond to pings form wan and lan and now everything works fine, an my media is being served to my PS3 on a plate!

EDIT: No it's not, just when I'm plugged via ethernet, over wlan there's nothing. What's going on there?

AntoSRFC

How do I find out the IP address of my PS3?

I know you look it up through the connection status list but it just says Automatic. And when i set up the connection useing the PPoE it fails to obtain. Sorry for the stupid question but this Nat stuff is driving me mad.

BTW i have a ZyXel presige 600 series.

Thanks

NetLink

AntoSRFC wrote: »

How do I find out the IP address of my PS3?

I know you look it up through the connection status list but it just says Automatic. And when i set up the connection useing the PPoE it fails to obtain. Sorry for the stupid question but this Nat stuff is driving me mad.

BTW i have a ZyXel presige 600 series.

Thanks

You should give your PS3 a static IP address. For that you will need the MAC address, which you can obtain from the Network Status List. Then go into your router settings and find DHCP/LAN settings, set up a static IP, enter name (PS3 or whatever, make sure not to use any spaces as this can mess with some routers), enter the MAC address and give it an IP - e.g. 192.168.1.120.

What you could also try doing - go into (PS3) Settings -> Network Settings -> Set up Connection and instead of selecting auto, you select custom and use the following settings:

IP Address: 192.168.1.120
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway/Server: 192.168.1.1
DNS 1: 192.168.1.1
DNS 2: [BLANK]

AntoSRFC

NetLink wrote: »

You should give your PS3 a static IP address. For that you will need the MAC address, which you can obtain from the Network Status List. Then go into your router settings and find DHCP/LAN settings, set up a static IP, enter name (PS3 or whatever, make sure not to use any spaces as this can mess with some routers), enter the MAC address and give it an IP - e.g. 192.168.1.120.

What you could also try doing - go into (PS3) Settings -> Network Settings -> Set up Connection and instead of selecting auto, you select custom and use the following settings:

IP Address: 192.168.1.120
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway/Server: 192.168.1.1
DNS 1: 192.168.1.1
DNS 2: [BLANK]

Thanks but i think i may have created a bigger problem. While restarting my router after the sua only thing were you ad the ip address in while i went to log back in the message
Protected Object

This object on the Prestige 660RU-T1 is protected

came up. now i can not log into its settings?
Does any one have any idea what i can do?

Thanks

Oh wait after a while of trying it logged in.

ShaneU

Is it possible to do this with a netopia router? I have the UPnP box ticked but it says not available on the ps3

ShaneU

I've spent an hour on this and still can't do it, I've created a static IP for the PS3 and forwarded all the ports to it but it's still NAT 3

AntoSRFC

ShaneU wrote: »

I've spent an hour on this and still can't do it, I've created a static IP for the PS3 and forwarded all the ports to it but it's still NAT 3

I know same, **** it who wants a PS3 im getting an xbox.












Kidding

qc3

in reply to lochy6767,If you change to nat type 1,you are able to invite friends to your party.follow the link and it should work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugGe7CCuNU&feature=related

Lochy6767

qc3 wrote: »

in reply to lochy6767,If you change to nat type 1,you are able to invite friends to your party.follow the link and it should work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugGe7CCuNU&feature=related

Sorry tried it all ready my pppoe is different coz im wit ****ty gaelic telecom:mad::mad:

JTWood23

hey man i just wanted to ask you a question regarding this nat type problem ive been having, i have the Zyxel router aswell i have known about the steps you provided to change the nat type to 2 for a while now and when i preformed those steps on the router it worked the only thing is the ps3 seems to reset back to nat type 3 all on its own i dont know what the problem is, one thing i can tell you is that if i reset the router and do the steps again and turn off my laptop it stays nat type 2 but as soon as i turn my laptop back on and do a connection test on the ps3 it goes back to nat type 3 any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

NetLink

JTWood23 wrote: »

hey man i just wanted to ask you a question regarding this nat type problem ive been having, i have the Zyxel router aswell i have known about the steps you provided to change the nat type to 2 for a while now and when i preformed those steps on the router it worked the only thing is the ps3 seems to reset back to nat type 3 all on its own i dont know what the problem is, one thing i can tell you is that if i reset the router and do the steps again and turn off my laptop it stays nat type 2 but as soon as i turn my laptop back on and do a connection test on the ps3 it goes back to nat type 3 any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Sounds like a conflict in IP delegation. Have you set up static DHCP? As in assign a dedicated internal IP address to your PS3s MAC address.

JTWood23

no i have not done that and i dont have a clue how to do it any help would be much appreciated

JTWood23

NetLink wrote: »

Sounds like a conflict in IP delegation. Have you set up static DHCP? As in assign a dedicated internal IP address to your PS3s MAC address.

no i havent done that and i have no clue how to do it

NetLink

What's your router's model number?

JTWood23

my router is a zyxel P-660HW-T1 v2

Lochy6767

JTWood23 wrote: »

hey man i just wanted to ask you a question regarding this nat type problem ive been having, i have the Zyxel router aswell i have known about the steps you provided to change the nat type to 2 for a while now and when i preformed those steps on the router it worked the only thing is the ps3 seems to reset back to nat type 3 all on its own i dont know what the problem is, one thing i can tell you is that if i reset the router and do the steps again and turn off my laptop it stays nat type 2 but as soon as i turn my laptop back on and do a connection test on the ps3 it goes back to nat type 3 any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

ye same S H I T keeps happinin to me.. sum days its nat 2 oders its nat 3 pain in d arse tbh

NetLink

Ok, try the following ...

Get your PS3s MAC address. You should be able to find this somewhere in Connection Settings. It's sometimes also called Hardware Address and looks like one of the two following:

00-16-01-7D-F9-80
00:16:01:7D:F9:80

Make a note of your MAC address, making sure you take it down correctly.

Next, download your router's user guide:
http://www.zyxel.co.uk/upload/doc/P660HW%20User%20Guide.pdf

Look in the index for "LAN Setup", open it, and skip down to "LAN Client List". This section will tell you how to assign a static IP to your PS3.

From the manual:

"This table allows you to assign IP addresses on the LAN to specific individual computers based on their MAC Addresses.

Every Ethernet device has a unique MAC (Media Access Control) address. The MAC address is assigned at the factory and consists of six pairs of hexadecimal characters, for example, 00:A0:C5:00:00:02. To change your ZyXEL Device’s static DHCP settings, click Network > LAN > Client List. The screen appears as shown."

Once you've done the above, you will probably have to repeat the steps to get NAT type 2 working, using the IP address you used in the previous steps.

Let me know how you get on.

JTWood23

thanks ill give that a try, ill get back to you to tell you if it works or not cheers

JTWood23

tried that and it didnt work plus im not sure im doing everything correctly that user manual isnt very detailed and im not a very techie person ill try a few more times ill just need to find a guide for dummies i guess thanks for your help

JTWood23

after trying it a few more times there is oneproblem i see when i type in my ip address and mac address and click add when it comes in the below field the status light wont turn green to show that it is connected to zyxel devive it stays off maybe that the problem having said that i can still connect the ps3 to the internet but still with nat type 3

NetLink

Unfortunately, the amount of help I can offer is limited since I don't have the router myself. But when you're in LAN -> Client List do you see a window with two form fields - one labelled "IP Address" and the other "MAC Address" with an "Add" button?

If you do, pick an IP address - you can go with "192.168.1.55". Enter that IP address into the "IP Address" field (without the quotes). Enter your PS3's MAC into the "MAC Address" field. Press the "Add" button. Make sure "Reserve" is ticked, and hit the "Apply" button. Now restart your router (you can power it off and on). Then turn on your PS3, go to Network Settings and Network Connection Status or whatever it's called, and also do a Connection test and see if the IP address is the same as you entered in the router - e.g. 192.168.1.55.

JTWood23

hi just did exactly what you told me to to do and still no change

NetLink

What does your PS3 say its IP address is?

JTWood23

i set my ps3 ip address 192.168.1.55 and then set it the same in the router with the ps3's mac address, you have the ability to manually set your ip address on the ps3 so thats what i did would you recommend doind an automatic connection and then changing the router to what ever the ps3 automaticaly chose

NetLink

No, that should be fine.

Normally, if you set the IP in the router, you can set your PS3 to automatic, but the way you did it should work too.

So, now if your PS3 has the IP address 192.168.1.55, it should stay that way permanently.

So, now that you know the IP and assuming it will stay the same, you should be able to configure your router for NAT 2 on PS3 by either putting 192.168.1.55 into a DMZ or by setting up port forwarding on 192.168.1.55.

These are the instructions I posted in a previous post:

Network --> NAT

1. On General tab select SUA only and apply
2. Click on Port Forwarding tab
3. In the IP box enter your PS3s static IP address
4. In Start Port enter "1"
5. In End Port enter "49151"
6. Apply settings and restart router

Also have a look here:
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/ZyXEL/P-660HW-T1v2/PS3_Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare.htm

The above example shows you how to do port forwarding on your Zyxel router for Call of Duty 4 on PS3, but you can open up all the ports instead of just the CoD4 ones, which would effectively put your PS3 into a DMZ.

JTWood23

yes i saw that previous post you put up and did those steps and it went to nat type 2 however soon after while my laptop was on it returned to nat type 3 and just to prove a point i reset my laptop did all the nessessary steps saved the changes and turned off my laptop, turned on the ps3 and it was nat type 2, played with it for a good while and did several tests here and there to check and it was always 2 but then the second i turn on my laptop and it connects to the internet it changes back to 3 ill give the other port forwarding options a go and see how that goes

NetLink

Actually, I know someone who had the exact same problem with the same router. I offered to take a look at it personally, but he never made it available to me so I couldn't test it out myself.

It could be that it's just the router not wanting to play along. It usually shouldn't be that much hassle to configure them (routers in general I mean).

If all else fails, I would personally look for another router. I recommend D-Link - they're fairly reliable, easy to configure and not too expensive. You should be able to get one for around 40-50 EUR. Netgear is also meant to be ok - the NETGEAR DG834Gv5.

This is the D-Link I'd recommend:
D-Link DSL-2640R Wireless G ADSL2+ 4-Port Modem Router

It costs about 50 EUR and it's been tried and tested on the PS3. It was used to replace one of those useless Eircom Netopia routers.

JTWood23

ill give it a look thank you very much for your time and help much appreciated

emmowilko

i have this zyxel router however when i type in 192.168.1.1 i dont get an advanced tab on the left hand side ? what can i do ?

NetLink

Getting the advanced tab can be a little tricky with the Zyxel. If you don't see the tab, it usually means you didn't log in properly.

Have you changed the default password? I think the default is 1234. You can confirm this by checking the manual.

oisinmc14

NetLink wrote: »

No, that should be fine.

Normally, if you set the IP in the router, you can set your PS3 to automatic, but the way you did it should work too.

So, now if your PS3 has the IP address 192.168.1.55, it should stay that way permanently.

So, now that you know the IP and assuming it will stay the same, you should be able to configure your router for NAT 2 on PS3 by either putting 192.168.1.55 into a DMZ or by setting up port forwarding on 192.168.1.55.

These are the instructions I posted in a previous post:

Network --> NAT

1. On General tab select SUA only and apply
2. Click on Port Forwarding tab
3. In the IP box enter your PS3s static IP address
4. In Start Port enter "1"
5. In End Port enter "49151"
6. Apply settings and restart router

Also have a look here:
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/ZyXEL/P-660HW-T1v2/PS3_Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare.htm

The above example shows you how to do port forwarding on your Zyxel router for Call of Duty 4 on PS3, but you can open up all the ports instead of just the CoD4 ones, which would effectively put your PS3 into a DMZ.

i keep getting an internal error when i do this

NetLink

oisinmc14 wrote: »

i keep getting an internal error when i do this

If you're getting an "internal error" message, it's more than likely an issue with the router's internal software or scripts. I would try resetting it and then try everything over again from scratch. Also make sure that the firmware is updated (not sure what the latest firmware is).

Here's a Youtube video by the way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmdqQstkOqs

oisinmc14

[QUOTE=

NetLink

;69660394]If you're getting an "internal error" message, it's more than likely an issue with the router's internal software or scripts. I would try resetting it and then try everything over again from scratch. Also make sure that the firmware is updated (not sure what the latest firmware is).

Here's a

Youtube

video by the way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmdqQstkOqs[/QUOTE]

thanks for the vid its very helpful but i was trying to update to the latest firmware but no matter what i do it always stays at the previous one, even though it gives the impression that it is updating(lights blinking/resetting)

NetLink

Which of these firmware updates are you trying to load?
http://www.zyxel.com/web/support_download_list.php?indexflag=20040906164737&ModelIndexflags=0,420041221102511,420041221102520,420050117110858,420050117110916,420050117110934,420050831093216,420050831095441,420060420160946,420060420161739,420060816160116,420080815092146,420090427144843

oisinmc14

NetLink wrote: »

Which of these firmware updates are you trying to load?
http://www.zyxel.com/web/support_download_list.php?indexflag=20040906164737&ModelIndexflags=0,420041221102511,420041221102520,420050117110858,420050117110916,420050117110934,420050831093216,420050831095441,420060420160946,420060420161739,420060816160116,420080815092146,420090427144843

3.40(APR.5)C0 is the one im trying to install