[XBOX360] Fifa 09 Season 2-It begins!

FutureGuy

Hi all,
We have had a really good Season 1 and I think we have learned alot about what works and what does not work.

The Fifa 2009 Season 2 begins on 2nd January 2009. I am now accepting applications for EXISTING players from Boards League season 1. Currently, the only player who will not be invited is Soby.

Players will be accepted into the league based on the following 2 criteria
-Ability to play all games, based on the number of games completed in Season 1
-Sportsmanship and the ability to play a fair game (based on number of bookings, sendings off, disconnections, %DNF and general complaints against the player)

New players may note their interest here on the forums.

I reserve the right to refuse to invite a player. Closing dates for applications is December 28th

If you feel that you have been overly agressive and have shown poor sportsmanship which may exclude you from this league, pm me separately and I will hear your case.

Please copy the following form, answer it and PM me. Do not post it here as noone is going to name a player to be banned, and it they do, it's going to descend into madness. All PMs will be held in strictest confidence.

By applying for inclusion into Boards Series 2, I understand that I must play with the highest standards of sportsmanship in mind. I also understand that I am expected to complete all my fixtures in a timely manner. Finally, I understand that I must post all my results on the designated thread.

Boards Name:
Gamertag:
Skill level (basic, intermediate, advanced):
Players who should be ommitted due to bad sportsmanship from season 1:

Lucious Sweet

Reason for entering?

Y2J_MUFC

I realise now I should have PM'ed this stuff, but oh well.....I'm at work so I'm reading stuff today in a very reduced window size so I missed that bit....

Boards Name: Y2J_MUFC
Gamertag: RichieMUFC
Skill level (basic, intermediate, advanced): Intermdiate? Advanced? I wouldn't say basic anyways.
Reason for entering: edit: YOU'RE MA! (see below!)
Players who should be ommitted due to bad sportsmanship from season 1: I came up against some players who quit, took the last man out and fouled at every opportunity but theres no-one I specifically want excluded....except Soby, because he took the b!tches way out by quitting when he was losing games fair and square, while he was still taking out the last man.

FutureGuy

moz wrote: »

Reason for entering?

Sounded good to include at the time...in retrospect, I'll take it out. I could get 26 "your ma" here

Lucious Sweet

FutureGuy wrote: »

Sounded good to include at the time...in retrospect, I'll take it out. I could get 26 "your ma" here

Sound. PM Sent.

Y2J_MUFC

FutureGuy wrote: »

Sounded good to include at the time...in retrospect, I'll take it out. I could get 26 "your ma" here

My previous post is updated accordingly

sparky360

pm sent

Samurai

Aw man getting the xbox/fifa combo for crimbo i'd better practice for season 3!

event

so is there anyway for people who didnt play in season 1 to play?

i had asked last time but missed the cut i think

FutureGuy

There may be some dropouts, and we may fill them with new players who have played in a mini league before the start of the league.

I may not include new players at all, but I'll know more in a few days. You can undrstand that season 1 was designed to rate and evaluate players so we could have a better season 2...I cannot throw 4-6 new players in without seeing if they are going to be idiots.

I may run a new qualifying league for season 3 which will run in tandem with Season 2 if there is lots of interest.

whatawaster

i'm not an idiot, would love to play in this and would be willing to come through any necessary trials to do so.

event

thats no bother

ill add you later on Live if you like, can try and play a few games against ye to suss it out.

cheers

cadogs

PM sent

BFassassin

Ill put my name down for a newcomer too. I will be getting new live sub soon so can play in january.

SRFC90

Im in the same boat as a few others. Didn't play season 1 but would love to be apart of this league, and as said by others, I'd be willing to go through trial games to prove my worthiness.

mika27

PM sent.

Whats happening with season 1? Thought we were going to have 2 leagues next season?

SRFC90

mika27 wrote: »

PM sent.

Whats happening with season 1? Thought we were going to have 2 leagues next season?

That'd be a good idea if it is managable, put all the new players in the lower tier!

FutureGuy

mika27 wrote: »

PM sent.

Whats happening with season 1? Thought we were going to have 2 leagues next season?

Season 1 is still running, but drawing to a close. We are having 2 leagues, nothing has changed there. I'm not going to flood the league with new players, but I would like 2 x 16-team leagues (32 for perfect cup competitions!)

FutureGuy

Endakenny becomes the second player not to be invited to season 2. The reasons are as follows...

1) Not answering any mails that I have sent him regarding his status in the league, both on Live and Boards PM
2) Ignoring everyones invites to league games
3) Received complaints of being a quitter when he was losing

It's obvious that when he gained 1 point from a possible 15, he ran like a baby. Quitting the game is one thing, ignoring everyones messages is the sign of a baby. I'm delighted not to have him playing. Endakenny, on behalf of everyone playing in the league...good bye!

So enjoy your 90 minute-games between Paraguay and Belgium. I'm sure it's exhilarating.


Players not invited to season 2
Soby (Soby00)-(quitting from league 1)
Bonkers (endakeny)-(reasons above)

mayordenis

oh sorry pm'ed you earlier but ok as a non season 1 guy I want in.
I know you are putting a lot of effort into this, and it's annoying when some people throw that back in your face by ****ing around, not playing games, quitting etc.
But with a community league like this do what you can to be inclusive

Y2J_MUFC

FutureGuy wrote: »

So enjoy your 90 minute-games between Paraguay and Belgium.

I've noticed this too, very strange!

mayordenis

I assume it is something to do with the play time achievement - just leave the computer on and it racks up time?

Moiph

PM sent.

Looking forward to season 2, although I must finish off my games in season 1!

FutureGuy

mayordenis wrote: »

I assume it is something to do with the play time achievement - just leave the computer on and it racks up time?

If you have nothing better to do with his time, then off with him! He could be spending that time playing us and having...whats the word I'm looking for...fun!

But he can still answer the multiple messages everyone sent. He picked Newcastle, got hockeyed in his first 5 games and decided to throw the toys out of the pram.

This is the exact reason Season 1 was a test run, to weed out this type of person.

besty

Sent you a PM last night there FutureGuy.

Mister Robinson

besty wrote: »

Sent you a PM last night there FutureGuy.

+1

mayordenis

FutureGuy wrote: »

If you have nothing better to do with his time, then off with him! He could be spending that time playing us and having...whats the word I'm looking for...fun!

But he can still answer the multiple messages everyone sent. He picked Newcastle, got hockeyed in his first 5 games and decided to throw the toys out of the pram.

This is the exact reason Season 1 was a test run, to weed out this type of person.

jesus don't get my wrong wasn't supporting him,
only trying to give a reason (however inept of this person) as to why they had 90 minute stupid matches on.

FutureGuy

mayordenis wrote: »

jesus don't get my wrong wasn't supporting him,
only trying to give a reason (however inept of this person) as to why they had 90 minute stupid matches on.

Oh, no you're fine! It was probably exactly what he was doing too! Never even knew there was such an achievement :rolleyes: Add me for a few games if you want! Well up for being beaten by new players!

FutureGuy

Thanks for all the PMs guys. I'm too lazy busy to reply, but I'm keeping track of all applications!

mcgovern

Stick me down as a new player thats interested please, haven't played online yet and I'm not that good, but won't quit games or anything like that! (I assume we aren't talking 30 mins games or something).

m83

Can all new and existing players please realise that taking down players from behind when they are moving into a one on one situation with the keeper is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN!

It just completely ruins the spirit of this Boards League and if you want to play like that just join any one of the thousands of other leagues out there.

Cheers.

cadogs

m83 wrote: »

Can all new and existing players please realise that taking down players from behind when they are moving into a one on one situation with the keeper is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN!

It just completely ruins the spirit of this Boards League and if you want to play like that just join any one of the thousands of other leagues out there.

Cheers.

I still think this whole thing is a gray area!!! I mean if i'm 1-0 up on someone in the last minute of a game and their player goes clean through then i'm gonna slice him down!!

We all saw Solskjaer, who was a very honest player, do it for Man U against newcastle years ago to save all 3 points for United and he got applauded for it!!!

Don't get me wrong i hate when your 2/3 goals up and people hack you down just for the sake of it because then its just a pointless exercise!!

I have had only 3 sendings off in 24 games and none of them were blatant tackles from behind (except against knackerdwarf but thats cos he was hacking all my players down and i was about 5 goals up!!!) but if the situation arises i most certainly will hack someone down to preserve 3 points!!

Maybe thats just me but it's supposed to be an accurate football simulation and these things happen in real football!!

Y2J_MUFC

cadogs wrote: »

I still think this whole thing is a gray area!!! I mean if i'm 1-0 up on someone in the last minute of a game and their player goes clean through then i'm gonna slice him down!!

Whats the point so? Unless your going to play fairly?

Either we all agree not to do it at all, or we have lads chopping down fella's left right and center.

cadogs

Y2J_MUFC wrote: »

Whats the point so? Unless your going to play fairly?

Either we all agree not to do it at all, or we have lads chopping down fella's left right and center.

I do play fairly which is why i've only had 3 sendings off (1 of which was a tackle from behind which i explained in my previous post) as opposed to a lot of people having between 5-10!!

If we all agree not to take someone down from behind, people are gonna be scared to make an honest attempt at a tackle and then risk getting kicked out of the league cos someone pm's Futureguy crying about a tackle from behind!!

As i said. it's a gray area!

If anybody has any suggestions to alleviate this problem we're all ears!

Y2J_MUFC

cadogs wrote: »

If we all agree not to take someone down from behind, people are gonna be scared to make an honest attempt at a tackle and then risk getting kicked out of the league cos someone pm's Futureguy crying about a tackle from behind!!

As i said. it's a gray area!

It may be a "grey area" but you just spelled out in no uncertain terms that you have no problem with taking someone down if you had to. Thats not the type of sh!te most players want to put up with I suggest...

There's a difference between taking someone down from behind and making an honest attempt. I was playing one guy, I think it was Seany, and he had a lad sent off for a last man tackle, but he actually made an attempt to get the ball so thats grand, no problem at all. Most of the time there is a massive difference between the two.

Its only a game, so why can't we just have good decent clean games with the bullsh!t? I've had zero sendings off, and I think about 3 bookings in my 21 games, I don't understand why people don't play properly? Actually, in my 61 ranked games, I've had zero red cards. I don't understand the need to take out the last man at all.

Axwell

m83 wrote: »

Can all new and existing players please realise that taking down players from behind when they are moving into a one on one situation with the keeper is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN!

I thought Future Guy was the one making the rules here?:rolleyes:

As someone else pointed out its a grey area, if you simply have no choice but to take the player down to stop a goal then sometimes its all you can do. Y2J you can say you dont do it etc etc but maybe thats cos you havent been in a position to have to, your at the top of the league and win most matches comfortably i doubt you have been in many games in the league where your clinging on to your lead by the one goal and your defence is under pressure not to conceed. Wreckless challenges and constant slide tackling and bookings or sending offs are uncalled for and shouldnt be tolerated but when its one on one sometimes and its a win or lose situation you simply have no choice but to go for the tackle. Everyone wants to win their games so if making that last ditch effort could end up in you either getting the ball or takin the last man down then thats the risk you sometimes have to take. This is football and tackling happens, if its going on all over the pitch then no it should be tolerated but when its for the sake of winning or losing a game then you cant say its not allowed, its not like there arent any consequences, the team loses a man over it.

Y2J_MUFC

Axwell wrote: »

Y2J you can say you dont do it etc etc but maybe thats cos you havent been in a position to have to.

Ah here, pull the other one mate, I'm sure there has been some point in my 63 ranked games and 21 league games where I have been in a position to take someone down when I was hanging onto a lead :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I don't do it because its a scumbag tactic. If you can't win playing fairly, you don't deserve to win at all.

Axwell wrote: »

If you simply have no choice but to take the player down to stop a goal then sometimes its all you can

Perhaps we really should have two leagues....one for players who wish to play clean games without people taking the last man down? And one for the players who do? There honestly seems like a split, and this is as logical as any!

Axwell wrote: »

I thought Future Guy was the one making the rules here?

He certainly is the one making the rules, but if you take a quick gawk at his earlier posts, this is a rule already. FutureGuy, can you tell us what the story is with this? It seems like some players are going to do it no matter what....

Axwell

Y2J_MUFC wrote: »

I don't do it because its a scumbag tactic. If you can't win playing fairly, you don't deserve to win at all.

A scumbag tactic?Did you call Solksjaer a scumbag when he did it being that you are a man utd fan? The point here is that if you are making a last ditch effort to get the ball while the other player is getting into a one on one position it has to be allowed, if you are just hacking down the last man then it shouldnt. The line is so fine though between making that tackle and winning the ball or ending up catching the last man and taking him down. If people are going to shout scumbag tactic and whinge about it everytime someone makes a proper attempt then it just makes a farce of the game as much as it does someone going round chopping down players.

Y2J_MUFC

Axwell wrote: »

A scumbag tactic?Did you call Solksjaer a scumbag when he did it being that you are a man utd fan?

I'm sure I'd hack down someone in real life in a heartbeat if I thought I could save the title for United and get myself a Premiership winners medal. Infact, I was there when 20LEGEND brought down him down. One important point your missing out on though...

........This is a console game, not real life..........

Taking down a man down in FIFA'09 is unlikely to change the course of history seeing as its just an Xbox360 game, I don't do it. If you can't take losing a relatively meaningless game without resorting to cheating (unless we start handing out trophies, medals and prizes) it is really just a scumbag tactic.

If I'm 1-0 up against you, you are finding it difficult to break through my defence but finally when you do get one vs one with my keeper, I hack you down and take the 1-0 win, would you like it? Don't see why people have to resort to cheating.

Its easy to tell if someone has made a genuine attempt to play the ball as I've said before. There was no "shouting of scumbag tactic" or "whinging" when Seany took down my player who was clean through, because he made a proper attempt to get the ball, but it just didn't work out. Its when you are making tackles where its obvious you have no hope in hell of getting the ball, thats what I have the problem with. If you've played the game for longer than 5 mins, you'll know what sliding tackle has a hope of getting the ball and what doesn't. Can you honestly say that when you make a sliding tackle you have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether you have a chance of getting the ball or not?

At least you seem to have some acceptance that taking down the last man is wrong, unlike that fella above, who said he'd have no bother doing it just to protect a result.

event

jesus lads, he's right.

taking someone down when last man is a joke and completely ruins the game.

there is never any need for it at all.

BTW, to show my non dirtyness, i have the achievment for 5 consecutive games online without a card

SantryRed

Personally, why ban it?

You get a red card for it don't you? So suck it up, you're now playing against 10 men. If I was 1nil up in the last minute I'd do it, it's suppose to be a football game. This happens in football.

event

SantryRed wrote: »

Personally, why ban it?

You get a red card for it don't you? So suck it up, you're now playing against 10 men. If I was 1nil up in the last minute I'd do it, it's suppose to be a football game. This happens in football.

because they can

fair enough, if you do it, thats grand, but they dont want you playing in their league, play in a different one.

its hardly a big deal, its just a rule they bring in

Axwell

Y2J_MUFC wrote: »

If I'm 1-0 up against you, you are finding it difficult to break through my defence but finally when you do get one vs one with my keeper, I hack you down and take the 1-0 win, would you like it? Don't see why people have to resort to cheating.

Its not cheating its just something that you dont agree with, while this isnt real life its still a tournament that pople want to do well in. Ive seen you unimpressed when your connection droppd a few times and you lost the game over it cos it meant you wont win the league. So you are competitive about it as much as anyone else even though its just a game you want to win too.

Its easy to tell if someone has made a genuine attempt to play the ball as I've said before. There was no "shouting of scumbag tactic" or "whinging" when Seany took down my player who was clean through, because he made a proper attempt to get the ball, but it just didn't work out. Its when you are making tackles where its obvious you have no hope in hell of getting the ball, thats what I have the problem with.

This was my point, i agree with you completely if you feel its worth the tackle and that you can make it then it should be allowed. But hacking the man down for the sake of it, no i dont agree with that at all.

If you've played the game for longer than 5 mins, you'll know what sliding tackle has a hope of getting the ball and what doesn't. Can you honestly say that when you make a sliding tackle you have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether you have a chance of getting the ball or not?

Agreed, but for this reason you cant put a ban on slide tackling the last man because some people will make those tackles and win the ball. The problem as we have agreed on is someone just repeatedly hacking your man down when he breaks away 1 vs 1 with no chance of getting the ball.

FutureGuy

Ok lads, some good arguments for and against the whole slide tackle from behind with deliberate intent to take the ban down. It's obvious some people see it as a great way to keep an oponent from scoring and other feels it ruins the spirit of the game. I'm going to keep things simple.

I agree with last ditch attempts to win the ball. I DO NOT AGREE with a defender that is 2-3 yards directly behind the striker taking him outout...don't insult anyones intelligence by saying you were trying to win the ball...thats bu11****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBrFlDpQudY There is Solsjkaers tackle...this happens once in a blue moon. Does it happen in every premier league game? No, because there would be chaos.

When I started the league, I made it especially clear that this type of play is not going to happen.

So here it is, if you are a player who does this and agrees with doing it, I would ask that you find another league for next year. No hard feelings, it's just that I (and the vast majority of the players in the league) don't want it. If I want a game where people are kicking the siht out of each other, I'll play COD4 or Street Fighter II.

There are plenty leagues full of players that will chop, hack and cheat vs each other...this is when Fifa stops being a football-based game and just a game based loosely on the rules of football.

The very minute this league stops being fun, that'll be it. I'll start doing closed leagues where I handpick players.

I'm not being p1ssy, I'm not complaining, I'm adhering to the rules set out when we all joined.

Lucious Sweet

+1

event

one thing i have thought of that could solve it

if you take down the last man, regardless of whether you mean it or not, and it doesnt metter if the player was given a red or yellow, the next time you get the ball, you MUST pass the ball back to your keeper and score an OG. Failure to do so results in expulsion from the league

how about that?

Axwell

event wrote: »

one thing i have thought of that could solve it

if you take down the last man, regardless of whether you mean it or not, and it doesnt metter if the player was given a red or yellow, the next time you get the ball, you MUST pass the ball back to your keeper and score an OG. Failure to do so results in expulsion from the league

how about that?

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

How are you going to make that work, what if the guy doesnt do it? Come on here and try somehow prove it all happened? Never going to work to be honest.

event

Axwell wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

How are you going to make that work, what if the guy doesnt do it? Come on here and try somehow prove it all happened? Never going to work to be honest.

well its rather simple

you can see what time a player was sent off at, so then in the following 3 mins or so there should be an OG

you are one of the people who thinks it ok so it doesnt really matter what anyone suggested, you'd be against it

but its just an option

SRFC90

event wrote: »

well its rather simple

you can see what time a player was sent off at, so then in the following 3 mins or so there should be an OG

you are one of the people who thinks it ok so it doesnt really matter what anyone suggested, you'd be against it

but its just an option

What if it was a genuine 2 yellow cards?

Axwell

event wrote: »

well its rather simple

you can see what time a player was sent off at, so then in the following 3 mins or so there should be an OG

you are one of the people who thinks it ok so it doesnt really matter what anyone suggested, you'd be against it

but its just an option

Im not against it do you read the posts or just come on here running your mouth when you arent even in the league? I said i dont agree with wreckless tackles but i feel where you can win the ball it should be allowed.

Your idea wont work as when the game is over its simply your word against theirs, they will say they didnt tackle you and you will say you did and nothing can be done. So im sorry if it hurts your feeling that i dont agree with you, it doesnt mean im against other peoples opinions. Coming here making comments like that is a way to make sure you dont find a place in the league anyways.

Also as the person above says what about 2 yellow cards or a red for a challenge elsewhere on the pitch??

cadogs

When i was saying that i will take down a player from behind to preserve a 1 goal lead as well i meant that i would genuinely attempt to win the ball but i i happen to hack the player down instead so be it!!!

I really, really try and refrain from doing this and have not done so all season but i think we all have to be realistic and say we would do it if the situation arose!!

I've played 24 games this season and have enjoyed it immensely and i do think there's a good spirit in the league but things go for you and things go against you so just get on with it and stop pestering poor Futureguy with complaints!!! :pac: