Who's going to stop the NWO?

WhaLofShi

From my post in RtdH's "Financial Times Thread"

Imagine if this whole NWO thing actually comes to pass within the relatively near future (say within our lifetimes). Won't the skeptics feel rather silly as they line up to have their VeriChip inserted? The CTers on the other hand will be lining up right alongside them saying "Told you so."

Whats the point of it all? Is anyone out there trying to stop this supposed dictatorial regime from emerging? Surely posting on boards.ie isn't going to make one damn bit of difference. If all the politicians are "in on it" and all the big businesses are "in on it" and "the people are sheeple" so they won't do anything anyway, where's any real opposition coming from, or going to come from and how will it's emergence be stopped?

Diogenes

Batman?

Imagine if this whole NWO thing actually comes to pass within the relatively near future (say within our lifetimes). Won't the skeptics feel rather silly as they line up to have their VeriChip inserted? The CTers on the other hand will be lining up right alongside them saying "Told you so."

The Alternative is of course, "won't you feel silly if it never comes to pass"?

People have been saying the a sinister cabal will rise to rule us all for over a 150 years it hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it's around the corner. For some conspiraloon theres always a NWO who will reveal themselves in X number of years.

Gareth37

WhaLofShi wrote: »

From my post in RtdH's "Financial Times Thread"

Imagine if this whole NWO thing actually comes to pass within the relatively near future (say within our lifetimes). Won't the skeptics feel rather silly as they line up to have their VeriChip inserted? The CTers on the other hand will be lining up right alongside them saying "Told you so."

Whats the point of it all? Is anyone out there trying to stop this supposed dictatorial regime from emerging? Surely posting on boards.ie isn't going to make one damn bit of difference. If all the politicians are "in on it" and all the big businesses are "in on it" and "the people are sheeple" so they won't do anything anyway, where's any real opposition coming from, or going to come from and how will it's emergence be stopped?

1. We cannot be sure if the Verichip is the mark of the beast. All we know is that it will become illegal to buy or sell anything without something other than traditional money.

2. People on here saying this will not line up to get any such chip. We would rather starve or be put in prison than knowingly accept any such mark.

3. Nobody on earth will stop it. It is going to happen. But then God will step in.

Gareth37

Diogenes wrote: »

The Alternative is of course, "won't you feel silly if it never comes to pass"?

People have been saying the a sinister cabal will rise to rule us all for over a 150 years it hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it's around the corner. For some conspiraloon theres always a NWO who will reveal themselves in X number of years.

You could be right but people must be prepared in case it does happen. People must be waiting for the signs in case we are the generation to witness this. We are somewhat away just yet but it will happen. Every man, woman and child must be on alert for themselves.

Ciaran500

Gareth37 wrote: »

All we know is that it will become illegal to buy or sell anything without something other than traditional money.

No we don't.

Gareth37 wrote: »

Nobody on earth will stop it. It is going to happen. But then God will step in.

lol, good luck with that one. Like he stepped in on so many other atrocities around the world.

humanji

But if it must happen, there's nothing anyone can do about it. Enjoy life instead of cowering in a bunker.

WhaLofShi

Diogenes wrote: »

The Alternative is of course, "won't you feel silly if it never comes to pass"?

Unsurprisingly, I think you missed the irony in my post.

So have you anything to offer?

WhaLofShi

Gareth37 wrote: »

1. We cannot be sure if the Verichip is the mark of the beast. All we know is that it will become illegal to buy or sell anything without something other than traditional money.

2. People on here saying this will not line up to get any such chip. We would rather starve or be put in prison than knowingly accept any such mark.

3. Nobody on earth will stop it. It is going to happen. But then God will step in.

This thread didn't mention beasts or marks of beasts. Can we do without the rhetoric?
The irony really is lost on you guys. If it were to happen and, as has been said here many times there is a plan to chip everyone, you, me or anyone else won't have a choice when it comes to being chipped. Herds of people will be forced to take the implant whether they like it or not. That's IF the NWO will be as has been described on this forum.

The question I'm asking is simple. Who's doing aything to stop this "shadowy cabal" from taking over the planet?

Diogenes

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Unsurprisingly, I think you missed the irony in my post.

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

You saying that wouldn't it be ironic if we all were forcibly chipped, and you were there to say 'I told you so". Then yes there is a potential for irony there. There's also a potential irony that this will never happen, I imagine you'll feel very foolish then.

Well actually thats not true, the conspiracy theorist of a few years time will latch onto a different new piece of technology, and assure us that the NWO is just about to put mind controlling nanites in our blood or quantum state computers will monitor our every movement.

Plus Ca Change.

So have you anything to offer?

Anything else to offer what? Hypothetically if the NWO actually existed and were capable of all these things you think they can do, and are so brilliant and ruthless and efficient, as well as powerful as you think they are, would suspect there is nothing you can.

However as I go through life, I've learnt that large organisations, are bad bureaucracies, inefficient, wasteful, and incompetent. I see a government that leaves state secrets on trains, spends millions on white elephants and can't roll out IT upgrades for hospitals and police, never mind microchip their population.

So to answer No I don't think the NWO exist, I'm not worried about being microchipped, and if this was a real burning issue that genuinely terrified you, you'd have slipped off grid and be living on a self sufficient farm now.

6th

Gareth37 wrote: »

3. Nobody on earth will stop it. It is going to happen. But then God will step in.

Do you have any suggestions as to what way he will step in?

Diogenes

Sabotage wrote: »

Do you have any suggestions as to what way he will step in?

Gorillas. On unicorns. Fire breathing ones.

Jumpy

Diogenes wrote: »

Gorillas. On unicorns. Fire breathing ones.

Wait.





























Is it the Gorillas or the Unicorns that breathe fire? You werent really very clear on that.

bill_ashmount

Gareth37 wrote: »

1.

3. Nobody on earth will stop it. It is going to happen. But then God will step in.

I really despair for the human race. I can't understand how people believe this rubbish. No wonder the world is in such a mess.

bonkey

Why do I have to post in almost every damned thread, asking people to respect the charter?

bonkey

WhaLofShi wrote: »

The irony really is lost on you guys. If it were to happen and, as has been said here many times there is a plan to chip everyone, you, me or anyone else won't have a choice when it comes to being chipped. Herds of people will be forced to take the implant whether they like it or not. That's IF the NWO will be as has been described on this forum.

See...here's what I don't get...

Just how cretinous are this NWO? Why would they force anyone to do anything? History is nothing, if not a long list of examples showing that people don't respond well to being forced, but respond pretty damned fine to being convinced that its their own good.

If we, or any generation, end up getting chipped, it'll be because its what we want. Sure, there's going to be some disgruntled people...just like there's people today who are disgruntled about virtually anything you care to mention. But as a society, its ridiculous to hold to the idea that anything will be forced on us. The only people who'll force something on each of us are the rest of society.

The question I'm asking is simple. Who's doing aything to stop this "shadowy cabal" from taking over the planet?

You seem to be suggesting that those currently in charge aren't the NWO. Who are, then?

WhaLofShi

Diogenes wrote: »

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

You saying that wouldn't it be ironic if we all were forcibly chipped, and you were there to say 'I told you so". Then yes there is a potential for irony there. There's also a potential irony that this will never happen, I imagine you'll feel very foolish then.

Ok, so we're talking about the potential for irony, if you want to be pedantic about it. I've offered a (hypothetical) situation where everyone gets chipped irrespective of what side of the divide they stand. From the point of view of someone who observes these arguments (I'd be reluctant to use the words debate or discussion on this forum), there would be quite a lot of irony.

As for my feeling foolish, or that I would be saying "I told you so", I don't understand why keep putting me on the CT side of things here. I'm very much middle ground here and don't believe for a minute that anyone will ever put a chip or RFID thingy in me.

Diogenes

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Ok, so we're talking about the potential for irony, if you want to be pedantic about it. I've offered a (hypothetical) situation where everyone gets chipped irrespective of what side of the divide they stand.

Ah but you've not bothered to offer a coherent explanation as to how such an event could occur.

From the point of view of someone who observes these arguments (I'd be reluctant to use the words debate or discussion on this forum), there would be quite a lot of irony.

I imagine if i was about to be implanted with a microchip against my will, irony would not be the first emotion I felt.

As for my feeling foolish, or that I would be saying "I told you so", I don't understand why keep putting me on the CT side of things here. I'm very much middle ground here and don't believe for a minute that anyone will ever put a chip or RFID thingy in me.

So your demand to know about what people would do if they were about to forced to have a microchip inserted in their body is what? Speculating about a hypothesis?

WhaLofShi

bonkey wrote: »

See...here's what I don't get...

Just how cretinous are this NWO? Why would they force anyone to do anything? History is nothing, if not a long list of examples showing that people don't respond well to being forced, but respond pretty damned fine to being convinced that its their own good.

If we, or any generation, end up getting chipped, it'll be because its what we want. Sure, there's going to be some disgruntled people...just like there's people today who are disgruntled about virtually anything you care to mention. But as a society, its ridiculous to hold to the idea that anything will be forced on us. The only people who'll force something on each of us are the rest of society.

OK. It seems to me that some of you think I'm offering a situation where we'll all be forcibly chipped. I'm not. I'm asking a question. The forced chipping of everyone is the ultimate scenario according to some of the people who post here. I used that extreme example to lead into my question.

You seem to be suggesting that those currently in charge aren't the NWO. Who are, then?

I've no idea what you're talking about.


Some people on this forum believe that the NWO is a group of elitist people intent on taking over the world, initially by stealth and eventually controlled by force. We are told that a single body of people controls both parties in the U.S. We are told that NAFTA will eventually become the NAU and that a new currency will be introduced there. We are told that this same group of elite people has some amount of control over European politics and has steered Europe into a union as a precursor to this world government (The initial experiment, if you like). We are told that the war on terror is a hoax and that 9/11 was "an inside job" designed to start this war and as a sort of smokescreen to take away basic rights of the people.

I'll try the question again, but I think it might meed to be directed a little more directly.

If this is what you believe, what the hell are you doing about it?

Kama

If this is what you believe, what the hell are you doing about it?

I regard that as the only real question for anyone who is a bona-fide CT'er. The general reply is 'making a website/blog and getting 'the Truth' out. Oddly, this seems to be an end in itself, rather than a step towards an end, which makes a lot of sense memetically but absolutely nothing politically. I'm reminded of Jacque Lacan's statement on the purpose of psychoanalysis: to produce more analysts. So the purpose of CT is to produce more CT'ers? It seems to be working...

Mind you, assuming total control there's nothing you can do anyway, since they control the media/the state/the IMF/the asuric legions of the Baatezu/etc. Brainsturbators 'F*ck 911' seems pretty on the ball imo. That and the old CT that CT was made to distract dissidents from actual politics, to hype fear and paranoia...Or to produce a iew of reality that is totally controlled by self-policing as a cheap way to keep people impotent. Whether that's 'true' to me seems kinda beside the point. It makes a good metaphor, and produces those effects, or thats its meaning to me.

It also echoes Buckminster Fullers Challenge and the Watchmen; if the fate of the world was entirely up to you, the world ends in 5 minutes, what wouldn't you do?

Nigsy

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Imagine if this whole NWO thing actually comes to pass within the relatively near future (say within our lifetimes).

It's already here.

Ciaran500

Nigsy wrote: »

It's already here.

Oh, well then why worry about it?

starn

I dont know. Keanu "Whoa" Reeves, Will Smith, Tom Cruise, David Sahyler maybe. I like the idea about the Gorrilas and Unicorns taht breath fire. But can they also talk as well, and maybe give em pockets so they can

TheBigEvil

I reckon Hogan might turn face, if he's got one more run in him. Can't see The Great one returning anytime soon!

meathstevie

The US constitution has the best garantee against the NWO happening : the constitutional right for citizins to carry arms.

Run_to_da_hills

meathstevie wrote: »

The US constitution has the best guarantee against the NWO happening : the constitutional right for citizens to carry arms.

The 2nd ammendment may not last. One of the first signs of an up and coming dictatorship is to remove the right to bear arms, thus giving the Sheeple little artillery to resist the enemy.

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

thecommander

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

One of the first signs of an up and coming dictatorship is to remove the right to bear arms, thus giving the Sheeple little artillery to resist the enemy.

Do you think when they looked to ban handguns here 2 weeks ago that Brian Cowan was setting himself up for a role as dictator?

Run_to_da_hills

thecommander wrote: »

Do you think when they looked to ban handguns here 2 weeks ago that Brian Cowan was setting himself up for a role as dictator?

You can't even get a license for a BB Gun in this country. :rolleyes:

thecommander

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can't even get a license for a BB Gun in this country.

You didnt answer the question.

Run_to_da_hills

thecommander wrote: »

Do you think when they looked to ban handguns here 2 weeks ago that Brian Cowan was setting himself up for a role as dictator?

Maybe not Brian Cowen but certainly the powers that be that will eventually take control in Brussels.

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can't even get a license for a BB Gun in this country. :rolleyes:

Maybe not a BB gun. But I have two shotguns

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The 2nd ammendment may not last. One of the first signs of an up and coming dictatorship is to remove the right to bear arms, thus giving the Sheeple little artillery to resist the enemy.

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

Why do you think americans should have the right to bear arms

Run_to_da_hills

starn wrote: »

Why do you think americans should have the right to bear arms

They have the right to protect themselves and their property. There are certain suberbs in some US cities where you would want to be insane not to carry protection.



Hitler disarmed Germany before the people were subjugated. Stalin did the same in Russia as did Mao in Communist China.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They have the right to protect themselves and their property. There are certain suberbs in some US cities where you would want to be insane not to carry protection.



Hitler disarmed Germany before the people were subjugated. Stalin did the same in Russia as did Mao in Communist China.

But didn't George W's administration oppose gun control.
Isn't it a core belief of the republican party?

The same party and administration that supported more government powers in law enforcement and has been accused of the biggest NWO plot?

I'm confused.

starn

Me too

starn

King Mob wrote: »

But didn't George W's administration oppose gun control.
Isn't it a core belief of the republican party?

The same party and administration that supported more government powers in law enforcement and has been accused of the biggest NWO plot?

I'm confused.

I have it reverse psycollagy.

GW: Ah lads sure go out and buy an load of guns. I want everyhouse to have at least a one gun in every room. Two in the shower.... What no ones ever seen psyco

JP: Ah feck that no ones gonna tell me I have to own a gun. Im gonna make a point of never buying a gun. Just to spite em.

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They have the right to protect themselves and their property. There are certain suberbs in some US cities where you would want to be insane not to carry protection.

Why is that. High gun crime levels ?

Phototoxin

JC Denton will stop it !!

Run_to_da_hills

starn wrote: »

Why is that. High gun crime levels ?

America has a lot more crime in general. But this will allmost cease as the NWO approaches, everyone will have "smart cards" tied up to their police records, no cash, no drug dealing, no hold ups or armed robbery.

The NWO will be ZERO TOLERANCE. You break the law and you will be digitally tracked to within feet of your where abouts as soon as you touch your "smartcard" to board a bus, make any consumer transaction or cross a border ANYWHERE on the planet. (All this is before the implant)

starn

Dude ou need to stop watching Minority Report

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

America has a lot more crime in general. But this will allmost cease as the NWO approaches, everyone will have "smart cards" tied up to their police records, no cash, no drug dealing, no hold ups or armed robbery.

Oh God no! The horror!

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The NWO will be ZERO TOLERANCE. You break the law and you will be digitally tracked to within yards of your where abouts as soon as you swipe your "smartcard".

And what leads you to believe this exactly?
Would it be the all the new human rights stuff the UN and EU are pushing for?

Run_to_da_hills

starn wrote: »

Dude ou need to stop watching Minority Report

Minority Report is aalmost a reality.

http://www.bitterwallet.com/minority-report-style-cctv-cameras-detects-suspicious-activity-in-portsmouth/3896

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Minority Report is aalmost a reality.

http://www.bitterwallet.com/minority-report-style-cctv-cameras-detects-suspicious-activity-in-portsmouth/3896

No it's not.
This has been explained to you.

We do not have psychics predicting future crimes.
Where exactly in any laws or upcoming laws can you be convicted of a crime you will commit in the future?
I thought sensationalist headlines and media where tools of the NWO.


We're closer to Jurassic Park tbh.

starn

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Minority Report is aalmost a reality.

http://www.bitterwallet.com/minority-report-style-cctv-cameras-detects-suspicious-activity-in-portsmouth/3896

Would ya ever snap outta that. Your a mad fella:p

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Oh God no! The horror!

And what leads you to believe this exactly?
Would it be the all the new human rights stuff the UN and EU are pushing for?

ROFL,

The UN & EU are the biggest culprits on the planet for privacy envision.

They have already imposed electronic RFID chipped passports, and are currently in the process of considering lighter creditcard size "smartcard" versions.

Don't EVER try to explain human rights and civil liberties from globalist elite organizations that tap into our mobile phone, read our emails, and digitally track and trace all our movements with RFID, ANPR & CCTV.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/acd2c66c-c0da-11dd-b0a8-000077b07658.html

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

ROFL,

The UN & EU are the biggest culprits on the planet for privacy envision.

They have already imposed electronic RFID chipped passports, and are currently in the process of considering lighter creditcard size "smartcard" versions.

Don't EVER try to explain human rights and civil liberties from globalist elite organizations that tap into our mobile phone, read our emails, and digitally track and trace all our movements with RFID, ANPR & CCTV.

That wasn't the question.
What leads you to believe that any infraction in the future will be dealt with zero tolerance?

Then again I forgot you ignore questions you can't answer.

But how exactly have they "imposed RFID passports" when most of the people I know don't have one?

Also the European union and UN cannot tap our phone or read our emails.
Nor is there any law in the works that would allow them to do so indiscriminately.

starn

Did you get your limks mixed up Run

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

That wasn't the question.
What leads you to believe that any infraction in the future will be dealt with zero tolerance? .

Its already happening and you should know if you have been following my posts. Colaberation between the bed buddiy EU and US governments on personal police records etc.

King Mob wrote: »

Then again I forgot you ignore questions you can't answer.

But how exactly have they "imposed RFID passports" when most of the people I know don't have one? .

Put it this way, if you wanted one you have NO choice but to get a chipped passport since October 2006.

King Mob wrote: »

Also the European union and UN cannot tap our phone or read our emails. Nor is there any law in the works that would allow them to do so indiscriminately.

Again from a person that has been persistantly being following me around the CT forum,

I have posted heaps on EU privacy invasion The EU has also done NOTHING about privacy invasion in the UK which in itself is FAST becoming an Orwellian Hell. Ireland is also going down that slippery NWO slope and can only get worse if the Lisbon EU Constitution gets passed and we all become a "super state"..

Of course the sheeple feel "so secure" with all this because it is "in the interest of "National security" and the "Global War on Terrorism". :rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1118/1226961467105.html?via=mr

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035361/Big-Brother-database-recording-calls-texts-e-mails-ruin-British-way-life.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7758127.stm

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its already happening and you should know if you have been following my posts.
Colaberation between the EU and US governments on police records etc.

But nothing on anything being treated with zero tolerance?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Put it this way, if you wanted one you have NO choice but to get a chipped passport since October 2006.

But my passport is valid till 2013. .
And I see how you neglect to mention the fact you don't need your passport when traveling around Europe.
Not exactly imposing

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Again from a person that has been persistantly being following me around the CT forum,

You mean the opinions you post anonymously on a public forum? Huge invasion there.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I have posted heaps on EU privacy invasion The EU has also done NOTHING about privacy invasion in the UK which in itself is FAST becoming an Orwellian Hell. Ireland is also going down that slippery NWO slope and can only get worse if the Lisbon EU Constitution gets passed and we all become a "super state"..

Hang on...
Europe intervening into UK privacy laws = good?
Europe changing laws through the Lisbon treaty = bad?
Not making much sense there.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Of course the sheeple feel "so secure" with all this because it is "in the interest of "National security" and the "Global War on Terrorism". :rolleyes:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1118/1226961467105.html?via=mr

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035361/Big-Brother-database-recording-calls-texts-e-mails-ruin-British-way-life.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7758127.stm

Those link are about PROPOSED laws, and international police co-operation.
aybe you should post some relevant links sometime.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

But nothing on anything being treated with zero tolerance?

But my passport is valid till 2013. ..

Your next passport after 2013 will be RFID unless you loose your current one.

King Mob wrote: »

And I see how you neglect to mention the fact you don't need your passport when traveling around Europe. Not exactly imposing.

Greatest farce of the EU, ELIMINATE standard inter European passports and introduce RFID track & trace "smartcards" that will impose even MORE on your civil liberties as they will be MULTIPURPOSE. "How convenient bleat the sheeple". :rolleyes:

King Mob wrote: »

Europe intervening into UK privacy laws = good?
Europe changing laws through the Lisbon treaty = bad?
Not making much sense there.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN THE UK, MORE CAMERAS WILL GO UP, THE Oyster card will eventually become 100% Registered, you will no longer be able to move across London without being tracked by "Congestion charge" (Cough!!!) ANPR Police CCTV network.

In fact the UK and Ireland will be doing the EU superstate a favour by setting the groundwork for the forthcoming Pan European Police state.

Newsweek cover depits the exact same image that could be said for Europe.

King Mob wrote: »

Those link are about PROPOSED laws, and international police co-operation.
maybe you should post some relevant links sometime.

Proposed Laws usually get passed if it is of interest to "international security" and "war on terror" We have heard all this before. :rolleyes:

Millions of Kids are to be fingerprinted by the EU superstate.

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Buttons/200604/Cam_Watch.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Articles/200607/20060731_EU_Children_Fingerprinted.htm&usg=__ecry8bVTg2jXbyJESpazYKaCXm8=&h=312&w=430&sz=91&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=UpEg1x-qxb2pUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deuropean%2Bpolice%2Bstate%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Your next passport after 2013 will be chipped unless you loose your current one.

Ok and? I would only have to present it at a border. You know like how it is now.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You still need ID which inevitably will be microchipped to an EU/ International standard.

Ok and? Will it have more information than say a drivers license?
Why is that a bad thing?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN THE UK, MORE CAMERAS WILL GO UP, THE Oyster card will eventually become 100% Registered, you will no longer be able to move across London without being tracked by police ANPR alius Congestion charge CCTV. In fact the UK and Ireland is doing the EU a favour bu setting the groundwork for the forthcoming Pan European Police state.

Good thing I don't live in English or more exactly the England in your imagination.
You have yet to provide any evidence what so ever that the EU have plans to do anything of the sort.

Have you actually read the Lisbon Treaty yet or are you still buying what the CT sites are telling you?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Newsweek cover, the exact same could be said for Europe.

Aren't media sources like Newsweek controlled by the NWO?
Or are they only controlled when they present evidence against your world view?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Proposed Laws usually get passed if it is of interest to "international security" and "war on terror" We have heard all this before. :rolleyes:

Because the war on terror is so popular right now.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Millions of Kids are to be fingerprinted by the EU superstate.
http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Buttons/200604/Cam_Watch.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Articles/200607/20060731_EU_Children_Fingerprinted.htm&usg=__ecry8bVTg2jXbyJESpazYKaCXm8=&h=312&w=430&sz=91&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=UpEg1x-qxb2pUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deuropean%2Bpolice%2Bstate%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

This really needs to be backed up with something other that bold text.

And you have still to answer my initial question:
What leads you to be the any crime will be dealt with zero tolerence after this RFID bull**** is introduced?

But hey continue to ignore valid questions. Not like it makes your arguments seem much more ridiculous and rambling.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Ok and? I would only have to present it at a border. You know like how it is now. .

Currently yes, but not If a
Europe follows the same paranoid path as the USA.

King Mob wrote: »

Ok and? Will it have more information than say a drivers license?
Why is that a bad thing?

Of ourse it will, the Irish and UK Governments are holding back on the issue of credit card licenses for a reason. This card will also let you in to government buildings, collect your social welfare, purchase alcohol & tobaco, enter a pub, As the government said last summer the National ID will be "multifunctional",

King Mob wrote: »

Good thing I don't live in English or more exactly the England in your imagination.

You obviously don't read the medis but of ourse you would think all this is great because it is all about "fighting
terrorism".

King Mob wrote: »

You have yet to provide any evidence what so ever that the EU have plans to do anything of the sort.

I have already provided rnough. :rolleyes: