How come kids in low socio-economic groups are more likely to be skangers?

I presume like myself that they went/go to a state secondary school.
They have a roof over their head like me.
They have as much facilities as I did when I was younger.Probably more seeming as I lived in Leitrim where we don't even have a decent transport system to get to the facilities.
I drank underage yet I am not throwing eggs at peoples house or intimidating them.
When we were drinking,we kept it quiet as our parents would have killed us if we were caught and the cops wouldn't be afraid to bring you in the cop car back to your house.

I never seen anybody using or carrying a weapon as a teenager.
I mitched some classes but still am studying in Uni.
I had **** all money when I was a teenager too.
So what is that makes them be sum like they are?

SpookyDoll

So what is that makes them be scum like they are?

The simple answer is there are no consequences to bad behaviour for them.

They can do anything they like and get away with it so they do.

biko

Deleted User wrote: »

When we were drinking,we kept it quiet as our parents would have killed us if we were caught and the cops wouldn't be afraid to bring you in the cop car back to your house.

Probably because their parent don't give a flying F what happens to their kids out there on the streets, unless something happens the parent can take offence to "Whaddayamean Sharon assaulted someone? She is a saint my Sharon, so she is."

This also goes for high income families.

Ergo: bad parenting = bad kids.

But I don't understand how a parent can't care.Would you not be ashamed if your son was in Mountjoy for murder?Like,don't they want their children to actually have a good life?

KamiKazi

its all because of the fordeners, they tuk our jobs!

themadchef

Personally i dont think it's how much material wealth you had growing up that determines the respect you have for other peoples lives or property.

I think the amount of nurture you got as a child, the boundaries your parents set you, the respect and love you were shown and taught to show others creates the basis for how act.

Nehaxak

ibtl

Wide sweeping generalisations abound ! :rolleyes:

SoWatchaWant

Cause middle class people place more of an emphaisis on trying to be respectable, go to college, social circles and all that ****e. Working class parents don't place an emphasis on that.

And remember, there's loads of exceptions to every rule.

javaboy

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

And remember, there's loads of exceptions to every rule.

Not always.

brianthebard

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Cause middle class people place more of an emphaisis on trying to be respectable, go to college, social circles and all that ****e. Working class parents don't place an emphasis on that.

Bullshi.t.

jtsuited

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume like myself that they went/go to a state secondary school.
They have a roof over their head like me.
They have as much facilities as I did when I was younger.Probably more seeming as I lived in Leitrim where we don't even have a decent transport system to get to the facilities.
I drank underage yet I am not throwing eggs at peoples house or intimidating them.
When we were drinking,we kept it quiet as our parents would have killed us if we were caught and the cops wouldn't be afraid to bring you in the cop car back to your house.

I never seen anybody using or carrying a weapon as a teenager.
I mitched some classes but still am studying in Uni.
I had **** all money when I was a teenager too.
So what is that makes them be sum like they are?

your answer is right there.

these kids' parents don't give a sh1te. the kids have no sense of pride, respect or anything like that. they have nothing to lose as they're never gonna go anywhere so they do whatever they want, and **** everybody else.

Wagon

The vast majority of skangers are retarded. The parents are only about 16 themselves, how the feck do you expect them to act like adults?

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume (.......) like they are?

It's impossible to be specific, but - Parents - if dysfunctional people have children, theres a good possibility that the child may unfortunately end up going the same way. Add to that lack of cash, drugs, mental problems, and then the usual lack of amentities etc, and there you have a good number covered.

bealbocht

It really refers to the poorest of the poor, where there is a "culture" of leaving school early, and early child birth.

You have barely educated young adults , brining up kids, and the cycle continues.

Also young adult parents, would not have the ability or inclination to do reading and other educational things with their children, so already they are at a disadvantage to children from homes where "A B C's" and counting etc were available, when they go to school.

According to this article..

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/081206_brain

the lower brain stimulation has a long term effect.
ie ... they are stupid for life.

This typically leads to feelings of being excluded from the rest of society.
And when they dont feel like the belong to the rest of "society" , they ignore it/rebel against it. And with parents, who where doing the same thing 10 years earlier, (prehaps with drink/drug/prision problems) the parents dont really care. Hence ferral children.

Dosent explain all cases, but a good overview

Disco Bandit

I've known allot of kids of really well off parents who were far worse people than allot of the "knackers" I've known... the "knackers" mostly grew out of it and copped on, bar some bad eggs, but the rich kids are still every bit as bad as they ever were.

there are always knackers and unsocial people in all parts of society, they just express themselfs differently.

as to your question: How come kids in low socio-economic groups are more likely to be Knackers?

there are alot more kinds in this bracket, if 5 percent of them were visible problem children, and the same proportion in a higher group, there is a hell of a lot more in the low group, just by population... if you get what im sayin...

The_Minister

brianthebard wrote: »

Bullshi.t.

There is a huge amount of evidence that says that education is given a higher priority in middle class households, particularly college education, so it's not bull****.

oztots

Monkey see monkey do.

They live in estates full of kids whose parents dont give a damn. The older kids are already thieving and fighting, younger kids see it and do it aswell, just a continous knock on. Families that want better for their kids send the kids to a school further away, or just up and get out of those places.

easyontheeye

its the parents that make a difference regardless of your class...

SpookyDoll

The_Minister wrote: »

There is a huge amount of evidence that says that education is given a higher priority in middle class households, particularly college education, so it's not bull****.

Thats true. Im working class and it was never in a million years contemplated that any of us would go to college, its just not thought of.
(I did end up going but organised and financed it myself)

Wheras middle class kids and parents expect the kids to go to college.
Its assumed to be an automatic next step after secondary school, the parents even start saving for it when the kids are small and then pay for it for them too. Even stupid middle class kids expect a place in college.

Working classes just dont have that expectation.

Cuddlesworth

Let me tell you a story of a experience I once had.

I was working in a Council house repairing water damage. There was a young boy there, about 5 or 6 years old. He was a absolute nightmare. He would pull down shelves, kick his mother, scream for everything he wanted and was constantly in a tantrum.

Now his mother would sit there drinking tea and chatting to friends about how horrible her son was and what was she going to do. I had to work in the room and listen to it.


Seems like a tough problem, yeah? Well it wasn't, it was a fairly simple one.

He drank over 3 litres of fizzy drinks a day, not including the sweets he was gorged with and the icecream the little bastard laid into. He had more sugar in a day pumped into him then I would intake in a week and I was 4 times his bodyweight at least.


The kind of sheer stupidity in the parenting above is the reason why most of them end up a scumbag. Their parents are ignorant of the underlying reasons for why they do what they do and they end up blaming the children. The children end up having kids and the cycle starts again.

ShagNastii

bealbocht wrote: »

It really refers to the poorest of the poor, where there is a "culture" of leaving school early, and early child birth.

You have barely educated young adults , brining up kids, and the cycle continues.

Also young adult parents, would not have the ability or inclination to do reading and other educational things with their children, so already they are at a disadvantage to children from homes where "A B C's" and counting etc were available, when they go to school.

According to this article..

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/081206_brain

the lower brain stimulation has a long term effect.
ie ... they are stupid for life.

This typically leads to feelings of being excluded from the rest of society.
And when they dont feel like the belong to the rest of "society" , they ignore it/rebel against it. And with parents, who where doing the same thing 10 years earlier, (prehaps with drink/drug/prision problems) the parents dont really care. Hence ferral children.

Dosent explain all cases, but a good overview

Sorry to be blunt but this post has merit. Every scummer I've met is a thick as sh1t

daveharnett

Deleted User wrote: »

When we were drinking,we kept it quiet as our parents would have killed us if we were caught and the cops wouldn't be afraid to bring you in the cop car back to your house.

The root of the problem is there dazzler. It was made clear to you from a very young age that your actions have consequences. This is not universally the case.

Parents who believe they can do no wrong (aka bad parents), believe by corollary that their children can do no wrong. This creates children who believe they are entitled to be treated as princes regardless of their actions, and who feel unfairly victimised whenever the real world fails to live up to this fantasy. They will also tend strongly to pass these traits to their own children.

Obviously the majority of these children will grow up to be useless layabout social parasites. Over the course of generations, these people will tend to work their way towards the lower socio-economic classes.





And yes, there are rich knackers, and decent poor people. I am speaking in terms of probability </disclaimer>

edit: bah, jtsuited beat me to it

Deleted User wrote: »

But I don't understand how a parent can't care.Would you not be ashamed if your son was in Mountjoy for murder?Like,don't they want their children to actually have a good life?

There's no shame, because my little johnny was a victim of circumstance, he has anger management issues and he was provoked, society let him down etc...

Chardee MacDennis

turn 16 -> leave school -> have 6 kids -> kids turn 16 -> leave school -> have 6 kids....

vicious circle of uneducated people who are happy to claim social benefits for the rest of their lives. the more kids tey have the more money they get, people who are that selfish are never really gonna care about how their kids are raised esp when there is so many of them. some people shouldnt be allowed have kids!

Cookie_Monster

Wagon wrote: »

The vast majority of skangers are retarded. The parents are only about 16 themselves, how the feck do you expect them to act like adults?

Post of the week:pac:

stovelid

Because they are clearly genetically inferior to middle-class kids.

Terry

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume like myself that they went/go to a state secondary school.
They have a roof over their head like me.
They have as much facilities as I did when I was younger.Probably more seeming as I lived in Leitrim where we don't even have a decent transport system to get to the facilities.
I drank underage yet I am not throwing eggs at peoples house or intimidating them.
When we were drinking,we kept it quiet as our parents would have killed us if we were caught and the cops wouldn't be afraid to bring you in the cop car back to your house.

I never seen anybody using or carrying a weapon as a teenager.
I mitched some classes but still am studying in Uni.
I had **** all money when I was a teenager too.
So what is that makes them be sum like they are?

Ahh. I see.

slipss

The_Minister wrote: »

There is a huge amount of evidence that says that education is given a higher priority in middle class households, particularly college education, so it's not bull****.

Maybe there is, I don't know, I don't go searching around for research papers of government reports on the subject but... My family would have been considered working class when I was growing up, we lived in a working class area and I went to a working class school in what most people that weren't from there would say was a very rough area. I have 3 siblings, we all went to college, it was expected of us and a reasonable amount of expectation was put on us that it was what was expected of us. In my year in school there was about 200 students. If i remember right, 7 or 8 left after there junior cert, most to do FAS trades. I can't speak for the whole year of how many went on to third level but out of my main class of about 30 in sixth year around 25 went on to college. Like I say, maybe there are some deep clinical reports on the subject that were never stuck under my nose, but from my personal experience.....that is utter bullsh1t.





To the OP, I'd say the answer is what most people are suggesting. Where you have crap parents, you will have crap kids, regardless of how much money Daddy makes. Of course drugs and alcohol and unemployment and no cash are going to increase the chances of kids being scumbags.

meganj

It's the entire system. At the end of the day is a fifteen year old skanger starts bothering you and winding you up, if you take a swing at them, your going down for it.

They think they're absolutely invincible, I mean I only turned 21 recently and I look at the kids hanging around my family home and I just think god your all such skangers, but i'm not a skanger and would never dream of acting the way they do. I mean obviously I drank underage, and did lots of other things that aren't exactly legal but I never attatcked anyone/egged their houses or as I saw recently asked a granny to show her.... well... her lady pieces.

Although now that I think about that that was kind of funny... But not the point!

It's the system not the parents!!!

Gran Hermano

Scum breeding scum, nothing new there. The only difference is we are now three or four generations into this situation. Time to legalise abortion me thinks.

deleriumtremens

I'm sure you will agree that people from lower class backgrounds will generally only tend to marry other people from lower class backgrounds..(because people from higher socio-economic classes are obviously going to try to get the best "deal" they can get and, put frankly, that isnt going to be somebody content to live off benefits and drink their heads off and be abusive).

As a result of this, bad genes will be mixing with bad genes. In this case, by bad genes I mean "genes that code for a nervous system with underdeveloped frontal lobes (which predisposes somebody towards commiting crime as the frontal lobes are responsible for forethought) and/or other brain feature commensurate with being antisocial"
People underestimate the contribution genetics makes to the personality of person and, in my opinion, the main reason scumbags are the way they are in because of the saturation of bad genes amongst the lower classes.
In fairness, if you ever watch jeremy kyle you will remark at how ever one of the people "looks like a scumbag" in terms of facial features (and i'm not talking about things like clothes or earings, thats a trend thing)

Prof.Badass

Middle class kids have the advantage immediately as their parents get them learning before they start school (i could read at 3) and help them out with school ect.

This leaves the lower class kids at the bottom of the class, and they lose interest in school very quickly (it should be common knowledge that people are not going to keep up an interest if their sh!te at something).

Those that do keep an interest in school are then faced with secondary school. In secondary school (particularly 3rd and 6th year) you're expected to do an inhumane amount of work. If you grow up in an enviroment where everyone is doing this work then it's easier to do it yourself. If you grow up in an enviroment where no-one is doing this work/supporting you with it, then it's a hell of a lot harder.

Donald-Duck

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Scum breeding scum, nothing new there. The only difference is we are now three or four generations into this situation. Time to legalise abortion me thinks.

More like make it compulsory in some cases.

brianthebard

SpookyDoll wrote: »

Thats true. Im working class and it was never in a million years contemplated that any of us would go to college, its just not thought of.
(I did end up going but organised and financed it myself)

Wheras middle class kids and parents expect the kids to go to college.
Its assumed to be an automatic next step after secondary school, the parents even start saving for it when the kids are small and then pay for it for them too. Even stupid middle class kids expect a place in college.

Working classes just dont have that expectation.

I'm working class and it was always thought I would go to uni, even before there was such a thing as free fees. Omg personal experiences can prove or disprove anything!

The_Minister

brianthebard wrote: »

I'm working class and it was always thought I would go to uni, even before there was such a thing as free fees. Omg personal experiences can prove or disprove anything!

In this context, most people are referring to working class when they (we) really
mean workless class (thank you Tories).
If your parents were employed hard-working working class people, then you aren't who anyone is talking about.
If your parents sit at home on benefits all day, then I you are.

Prof.Badass

deleriumtremens wrote: »

In this case, by bad genes I mean "genes that code for a nervous system with underdeveloped frontal lobes (which predisposes somebody towards commiting crime as the frontal lobes are responsible for forethought) and/or other brain feature commensurate with being antisocial"
People underestimate the contribution genetics makes to the personality of person and, in my opinion, the main reason scumbags are the way they are in because of the saturation of bad genes amongst the lower classes.
In fairness, if you ever watch jeremy kyle you will remark at how ever one of the people "looks like a scumbag" in terms of facial features (and i'm not talking about things like clothes or earings, thats a trend thing)

This has nothing to do with genes. I have known many intelligent "skangers" just as i have known D4-heads who are as thick as 2 planks.

Your brain is incredibly flexible when you're young (particularly from 0-4).It loses this flexibility at around 16. The more you use it as a child the more intelligent you'll be as an adult. If genes had such a huge infleunce then why are people with microcephaly nowhere near as retarded as you'd think?

Comments like yours sicken me. Going back 2 or 3 generations most of the irish middle class have working class roots. In fact our english overlords probably made the exact same idiotic statements about us that you are making against "lower class" people.

Terry

Terry wrote: »

Ahh. I see.

The point?

SpookyDoll

brianthebard wrote: »

I'm working class and it was always thought I would go to uni, even before there was such a thing as free fees. Omg personal experiences can prove or disprove anything!

Yeh, I was suprised reading Slipps quote there on the previous page:

My family would have been considered working class when I was growing up, we lived in a working class area and I went to a working class school in what most people that weren't from there would say was a very rough area. I have 3 siblings, we all went to college, it was expected of us and a reasonable amount of expectation was put on us that it was what was expected of us.

So evidently different experiences for different people, maybe its generational or something.

I think the point being your class doesn't matter, its more your outlook. Some people are content to accept what comes their way and moan about it but do nothing (cursing the darkness rather than lighting a candle) and others will break their balls trying to better themselves.

Thats the difference between good people and scumbags, personal responsibility.

Scumbags will blame everyone and everything for the way they are, good people will get off their asses and try to better themselves, behave decently and refuse to be scum.

stovelid

Never in the field of social classes were so many explained by so few not actually from that class.

Fighting Irish

their parents

simple

Gyalist

ShagNastii wrote: »

Sorry to be blunt but this post has merit. Every scummer I've met is a thick as sh1t

That's untrue. There are many that are very intelligent but the education system fails them. Teachers expect them to fail and so they do. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Cuddlesworth

stovelid wrote: »

Never in the field of social classes were so many explained by so few not actually from that class.

I started my life in lower class areas. Funny, since my parents managed to save up enough money to get the fcuk out of dodge with three kids. I had good parenting and didn't end up like some of the people I knew when I was younger. Their parents weren't interested in going anywhere, it was grand for them.

Later on I worked solely in Council housing in Clondalkin and Ballyfermet. I met loads of nice people, good parents and hard workers. You know the difference between them and the scum?

They looked after their children and they had aspirations to leave the area. the scum didn't. They were lazy, ungrateful and didn't care about anything but the TV and some tins.

Calibos

deleriumtremens wrote: »

I'm sure you will agree that people from lower class backgrounds will generally only tend to marry other people from lower class backgrounds..(because people from higher socio-economic classes are obviously going to try to get the best "deal" they can get and, put frankly, that isnt going to be somebody content to live off benefits and drink their heads off and be abusive).

As a result of this, bad genes will be mixing with bad genes. In this case, by bad genes I mean "genes that code for a nervous system with underdeveloped frontal lobes (which predisposes somebody towards commiting crime as the frontal lobes are responsible for forethought) and/or other brain feature commensurate with being antisocial"
People underestimate the contribution genetics makes to the personality of person and, in my opinion, the main reason scumbags are the way they are in because of the saturation of bad genes amongst the lower classes.
In fairness, if you ever watch jeremy kyle you will remark at how ever one of the people "looks like a scumbag" in terms of facial features (and i'm not talking about things like clothes or earings, thats a trend thing)

Hmmm. I've often said something similar too. Its not a hard and fast rule but it seems to have some merit. There is a particular 'look' to a lot of skanger. Bottom of the barrel genes tbh. At the risk of sounding even more like an uber menschen its just a simple fact that some groups of people have better more healthy gene combinations than others. I don't look down at people with lesser genes assuming they are decent people. I may have genes that make for a healthier body with better immune system, higher intelligence, greater fitness etc but that does not make me better in a human sense but certainly 'better' in a genetic sense. I don't go round conciously thinking, "I'm genetically better than him, him, her....." but sometimes it does occur to me for one reason or another, "unlucky sod, a bit thick and he catches every bug going and now riddled with cancer" I am not a better person, maybe a worse 'person' but it is a simple fact that I am better genetically.

Often reminded of this when you see the poor folks protesting about a mobile phone transmitter tower supposedly causing a load of cancers in the area. Its funny how there are never these cancer hotspots around transmitters located in more affluent areas. You see the photo of the protesters and I am sorry but it is painfully obvious that these poor people just aren't of healthy genetic stock and are more prone to cancer and their socio-economic group is a lot less likey eat healthily and more likely to drink like fish and smoke like chimneys.

So I am not a nazi believer in the unter menschen but I'm sorry, its just a simple fact that some people are genetically better than others though not necessarily better 'people'.

Terry

vinylmesh wrote: »

Middle class kids have the advantage immediately as their parents get them learning before they start school (i could read at 3) and help them out with school ect.

This leaves the lower class kids at the bottom of the class, and they lose interest in school very quickly (it should be common knowledge that people are not going to keep up an interest if their sh!te at something).

Those that do keep an interest in school are then faced with secondary school. In secondary school (particularly 3rd and 6th year) you're expected to do an inhumane amount of work. If you grow up in an enviroment where everyone is doing this work then it's easier to do it yourself. If you grow up in an enviroment where no-one is doing this work/supporting you with it, then it's a hell of a lot harder.

So that would make me middle class.
Awesome. I'm middle class because I could read when I was three.

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I started my life in lower class areas. Funny, since my parents managed to save up enough money to get the fcuk out of dodge with three kids. I had good parenting and didn't end up like some of the people I knew when I was younger. Their parents weren't interested in going anywhere, it was grand for them.

Later on I worked solely in Council housing in Clondalkin and Ballyfermet. I met loads of nice people, good parents and hard workers. You know the difference between them and the scum?

They looked after their children and they had aspirations to leave the area. the scum didn't. They were lazy, ungrateful and didn't care about anything but the TV and some tins.

Nail on the head there.

See those women dropping their kids to school in something resembling a truck? Most of them don't work. They actually have those vehicles because their husbands have good jobs.
They sit at home most of the day too.
Is that a good impression to give to a child?
One where you can sit on your arse all day and still be comfortable because one person in the house has a good job?

There are lazy people in all walks of life and there are scummy people in all walks of life.
Until most of the general population actually realise that and stop pointing fingers as those less fortunate, we will stay at the current impasse.

Prof.Badass

Terry wrote: »

So that would make me middle class.
Awesome. I'm middle class because I could read when I was three.

It wouldn't automatically make you middle class. There are other obstacles to overcome.
If you consider yourself middle class now but grew up in a working class family, then I'm sure it helped..... a lot.

What with the not being behind at school ect. I'm sure you found school a lot easier than most of your peers, thus making you a lot more likely to succed in formal education.

Also i'm sure it positively affected your intelligence in a big way making you more likely to succeed in life even if you didn't do well in formal education.

Terry

vinylmesh wrote: »

It wouldn't automatically make you middle class. There are other obstacles to overcome.
If you consider yourself middle class now but grew up in a working class family, then I'm sure it helped..... a lot.

What with the not being behind at school ect. I'm sure you found school a lot easier than most of your peers, thus making you a lot more likely to succed in formal education.

I did succeed, until I got bored and became a smart arse. Then I failed.

stovelid

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I started my life in lower class areas. Funny, since my parents managed to save up enough money to get the fcuk out of dodge with three kids. I had good parenting and didn't end up like some of the people I knew when I was younger. Their parents weren't interested in going anywhere, it was grand for them.

I'd agree with most of what you say except that not everybody that works hard
(and does the right thing) "gets the fcuk out of dodge". Some parents are still there (like mine) because they sacrificed a lot to make sure that their kids got a better chance than they did.

I'm also think a lot of people's perception of skangers is not to do with crime, lack of hard work, or an anti-social life. For some, talking or dressing a certain way, or not 'having the wherewithal' to move out, means they are worthy of derision. What is unfair about this is that from my time in Uni (and knowing many of my fellow students years later), I have no doubt that a large number of middle-class kids are as unthinking a product of their environment as your average 'skanger' and would just as easily have turned out as junkies or criminals as they did professionals or academics, if their upbringings were reversed.

Tha Gopher

How many IBTL`s would you get pre lock on a thread entitled "how come people in the travelling community are more likely to be unemployed criminals" (btw the stats back it up if anyone really wants to get pissy about it, as Im sure one or two would)

Cuddlesworth

stovelid wrote: »

I'd agree with most of what you say except that not everybody that works hard
(and does the right thing) "gets the fcuk out of dodge". Some parents are still there (like mine) because they sacrificed a lot to make sure that their kids got a better chance than they did.

Fair enough. I did say the difference was the aspiration to leave, not the actual leaving. I see it as the awareness that there is something inheritantly wrong with the people around them(scumbags) and that usually passes on the the kids.

phenomenon

Already I can see this turning into the classic nature Vs nurture debate, with some people blaming genes as the reason why kids grow up to be skangers and others blaming the parents :rolleyes:

News just in: its a combo of both. A kid can come from the biggest knacker estate in the country and have junkies as parents and siblings in jail, but this may only make him more determined to break the senseless cycle of poverty and get a college education and a good job.

Likewise a rich kid may look at his parents' wealth and take comfort in the fact that its all waiting for him when he gets older, and so he won't give two shats about school. You've all heard stories of those kids who go to the institute at the expense of their parents for a few grand and waste the year selling drugs or whatever.

I have a lot more respect for the working class kid in uni. He had to overcome many more obstacles then the middle class kid, who was always expected to go and given every aid along the way, be it grinds classes, private tutuors etc.

As for genetics - you may not say it out loud for fear of being labelled a nazi but of course they play a part. There is a saturation of idiot genes among the lower classes. A "genius sperm bank" was even set up in the 80's on this assumption but was shut down in the 90's because it was un-PC (most of the donors accepeted were white). If you want to read more on this here is a starting point

stovelid

phenomenon wrote: »

A "genius sperm bank" was even set up in the 80's on this assumption but was shut down in the 90's because it was un-PC (most of the donors accepeted were white). If you want to read more on this here is a starting point

I see that some of the kids from the sperm bank ended up being 'mediocre' academically.

One can only imagine the loving and supportive parental response that their school report cards must have invoked at home.

Nehaxak

Definitions of a scumbag/skanger...

Anyone with a "mullet" hairstyle (coincidentally, mostly kids from well off backgrounds)

Anyone who hangs around Dr Quirkys, Bray Amusements or other such skanger hangouts (again, an awful lot of kids from well off backgrounds)

Any white person wearing baggy jeans, long t-shirt, listening to loud hardcore rap music and speaking like a black gangster from the "ghetto"...Oh no wait, that's America. Hold on a minute...