Anybody use o2 Webtext?

Sam Vimes

The guy wrote: »

MY gripe with three is that they have no webtext. :mad:

if that's your only gripe with three then you're extremely lucky tbh

fbradyirl

Mark200 wrote: »

Just to let yous know, I've tested out both Cabbage and JSMS and cabbage is, in my opinion, better.

The JSMS one adds a line at the end of the texts you send saying "sent using JSMS" or something like that which is annoying. And they're sneaky about it too because they don't send it if you send a text to your own number.

Not true Mark. JSMS adds the URL to the end of a text if the text is greater than 160 characters long, and only if there is space for it (i.e. without using up more webtexts). There's no sneakiness about it. This happens when you send to any number, including your own.

Mark200

fbradyirl wrote: »

Not true Mark. JSMS adds the URL to the end of a text if the text is greater than 160 characters long, and only if there is space for it (i.e. without using up more webtexts). There's no sneakiness about it. This happens when you send to any number, including your own.

Ah I see. Woops


Oh well, the other one doesn't send any URL's at all as far as I know, so I'll stick with that

Sam Vimes

Mark200 wrote: »

Oh well, the other one doesn't send any URL's at all as far as I know, so I'll stick with that

it doesn't

jos28

I hate the new system. The old one worked fine,why did they change. I had at least 50 scheduled text messages stored in the old system- friends birthdays etc. Lost them when the system changed over. Spent ages putting them all back in again and guess what... None of the messages have been delivered. It is so slow and not user friendly:mad:

fbradyirl

Mark200 wrote: »

Ah I see. Woops


Oh well, the other one doesn't send any URL's at all as far as I know, so I'll stick with that

I prefer JSMS as it doesn't send my login details to an unknown third party server. It talks directly to o2, vodafone and meteor.

Sam Vimes

fbradyirl wrote: »

I prefer JSMS as it doesn't send my login details to an unknown third party server. It talks directly to o2, vodafone and meteor.

it's true that cabbage sends your details via a server but it's really just for simplicities sake. i did have client side sending but it was a lot of hassle to keep working and people had to download a new version every time something changed.

It comes down to people have to trust that I'm not going to use their login details for anything dodgy. And even with JSMS people are putting their logins into a piece of software that was written by you so they're putting them same trust in you.

Also anyone who doesn't want to send their texts through my server is free to put the sending scripts on their own server
http://cabbagetexter.com/source.php

fbradyirl

Sam Vimes wrote: »

it's true that cabbage sends your details via a server but it's really just for simplicities sake. i did have client side sending but it was a lot of hassle to keep working and people had to download a new version every time something changed.

It comes down to people have to trust that I'm not going to use their login details for anything dodgy. And even with JSMS people are putting their logins into a piece of software that was written by you so they're putting them same trust in you.

Also anyone who doesn't want to send their texts through my server is free to put the sending scripts on their own server
http://cabbagetexter.com/source.php

Yes I know what your saying. im sure there's nothing dodgy going on, Im just saying that many prefer a cleaner solution which isnt dependant on 2 servers to be running to work.

If people didnt trust JSMS, they can use network sniffer tools to see if it is sending login details to places it shouldn't (actually one person did and contacted us to say he found no trace of that going on).

To be honest I think that it's good that people have the choice between both programs.

Mark200

fbradyirl wrote: »

To be honest I think that it's good that people have the choice between both programs.

Yeah right

Sam Vimes

fbradyirl wrote: »

Yes I know what your saying. im sure there's nothing dodgy going on, Im just saying that many prefer a cleaner solution which isnt dependant on 2 servers to be running to work.

It's true it probably would be better but it's really tricky to do in vb and since i have to keep the server running anyway for the mobile version which would cost too much to communicate directly it's just easier for me. I actually have code to do it written in java that could be used for client side but that'd add another layer of complexity and possible problems

fbradyirl wrote: »

If people didnt trust JSMS, they can use network sniffer tools to see if it is sending login details to places it shouldn't (actually one person did and contacted us to say he found no trace of that going on).
To be honest I think that it's good that people have the choice between both programs.

me too. People often email me asking if there's a mac or linux version and i point them to JSMS

I've tried it myself but i can't get it to work through my company's proxy :P

fbradyirl

If I had time I'd love to rewrite the thing in Javascript or using Sproutcore or some web standard that would run from a browser without the need for a plugin or third party tool like Java to be installed first. This would eliminate problems like proxy config and would allow many more people to use it.

Sam Vimes

fbradyirl wrote: »

If I had time I'd love to rewrite the thing in Javascript or using Sproutcore or some web standard that would run from a browser without the need for a plugin or third party tool like Java to be installed first. This would eliminate problems like proxy config and would allow many more people to use it.

Also if you write it in vb proxies take care of themselves

eVeNtInE

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Sam Vimes

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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Ah another long suffering 3 customer :P
Come over from the dark side my good man

Unless you're with *spit* tesco?

eVeNtInE

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fbradyirl

Sam Vimes wrote: »

Also if you write it in vb proxies take care of themselves

VB requires windoz - one thing I tend to avoid

fbradyirl

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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"Three" need to sort that out and give people free webtexts!

eVeNtInE

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Sam Vimes

fbradyirl wrote: »

VB requires windoz - one thing I tend to avoid

A good tactic

eVeNtInE wrote: »

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This is true

fbradyirl

Sam Vimes wrote: »

.. I've tried it myself but i can't get it to work through my company's proxy :P

I presume you entered your proxy and port into JSMS preferences?

Sam Vimes

fbradyirl wrote: »

I presume you entered your proxy and port into JSMS preferences?

i have. i actually just tried it again there and it worked. i haven't tried it in a while now so maybe something changed on the proxy. i'll be using my program myself but i might just take a look at yours now and steal some ideas :P

fbradyirl

Sam Vimes wrote: »

i have. i actually just tried it again there and it worked. i haven't tried it in a while now so maybe something changed on the proxy. i'll be using my program myself but i might just take a look at yours now and steal some ideas :P

Ha no worries. Good that you got it working.