Meanwhile, over in After Hours...

Raam

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055434174

Cyclists, Go use the footpad.
(this post is intended for outside city centre where hitting pedestrians isn't an issue..).

Seriously, I'm sick of driving along, getting caught behind a guy on a bike and having to overtake him dangerously.. seems to have happened to me constantly all week. all while there's a six foot wide footpad to his left with no one on it.

uberwolf

I saw that. He's digging his own hole.

Chips Lovell

It's probably a potentially futile exercise debating with someone who can't spell 'footpath'.

Eoin D

Cycling induction weeks would be good in schools, something to get kids familiar with cycling. I read in a DTO report that people who cycle when they are young are more likely to cycle when they are older.

What I'm getting at is, people who make these comments are unfamiliar with being a cyclist and the conditions they have to cycle in. I've only taken up cycling recently enough but it's made me a far more considerate motorist when it comes to cyclists on the road. Demi-rant over

Raam

I'm interested to see how long it lasts before it is locked.

Eoin D

Actually reading it again surely he's ripping the piss?

TinyExplosions

Best. Reply. Ever

Tago Mago wrote: »

There are wanker cyclists, just like wanker drivers. Just like there are probably wanker lollipopmen. Although hopefully not lollipopmen that **** when there are children around because that is not on. These lollipopmen need to be sorted out once and for all, coming over here taking our jobs and children

CheGuedara

el tonto wrote: »

It's probably a potentially futile exercise debating with someone who can't spell 'footpath'.

...footpad, he he

sounds like he's barely qualified to speak english let alone drive a car

unionman

CheGuedara wrote: »

...footpad, he he

I dink dad he just haf some sord of beech imbedement. Footpads clearly are dum dort of dore zpot wid him.

kenmc

haha what a muppet. lets just hope he stays over in after hours and doesn't find us here. Quick lads, turn off the lights!!! SHHHHHH!
Besides he keeps talking about 'empty footpads' - but if a cyclist was to get on to one even with NO OTHER PEOPLE for 100 miles around, then it'd not be empty anymore, and they'd have to get off again. and on again. and .......

DirkVoodoo

Ugh, I wish I hadn't read that, I am carrying a lot of anger after nearly being minced by a driver overtaking me on a bend yesterday (literally less than a foot and they then cut in in front of me).

If they weren't speeding in a 50km/hr zone I might have caught them and politely rapped on the window.

Anyway, what a tool that guy is, "footpad", come on!

ntlbell

are cyclists who do this hold up traffic when there's an obvious cycle lane beside the footpath wan*ers?

I see this a _lot_

DirkVoodoo

Yes its all a conspiracy, cyclists aren't actually trying to get home as safely as possible, we only leave our houses at night to slow down traffic, make people get home later and miss the 9 o clock news so Anne Doyle will be forced off the air.

Genius plan no?

I hope you get slapped with the banstick for flaming (hint hint).

petethedrummer

In certain parts of Louth (i.e. the bit I'm from) path is pronounced pad. So shut your holes.

Chips Lovell

petethedrummer wrote: »

In certain parts of Louth (i.e. the bit I'm from) path is pronounced pad. So shut your holes.

Yes, but do you spell it that way?

Chips Lovell

ntlbell wrote: »

are cyclists who do this hold up traffic when there's an obvious cycle lane beside the footpath wan*ers?

I see this a _lot_

Eh, what?

petethedrummer

el tonto wrote: »

Yes, but do you spell it that way?

No but we should.

Freewheeling Ed

petethedrummer wrote: »

No but we should.

cool, can't wait for the Louth English Dictionary , the LED

petethedrummer

That would be the North Louth English Dictionary.
Lesson 1: 'Path' is pronounced 'pad'.
Lesson 2: 'Up' can be pronounced 'op' or 'ap'.

cyclopath2001

Seriously, I'm sick of driving along, getting caught behind a guy on a bike and having to overtake him dangerously..

What the sheltered readers of 'cycling' need to know is that in 'motors' there's a whole pent up rage among a certain element (usually the ones with bad spelling) against anyone, cyclist or slow driver who gets in the way of an Ordinary Decent Speeder (ODS). After considerable debate, their logic has evolved as follows:

1: Overtaking is dangerous.
2: Causing an ODS frustration & forcing him to overtake, endangers the ODS.
3: Slow road users are therefore dangerous & should be 'put off the road'.
4: Speed traps are revenue-generating exercises.

cyclopath2001

cyclopath2001 wrote: »

What the sheltered readers of 'cycling' need to know is that in 'motors' there's a whole pent up rage among a certain element (usually the ones with bad spelling) against anyone, cyclist or slow driver who gets in the way of an Ordinary Decent Speeder (ODS). After considerable debate, their logic has evolved as follows:

1: Overtaking is dangerous.
2: Causing an ODS frustration & forcing him to overtake, endangers the ODS.
3: Slow road users are therefore dangerous & should be 'put off the road'.
4: Speed traps are revenue-generating exercises.

5: I'm paying Road Tax, cyclists don't.

E@gle.

Myth wrote: »

5: I'm paying Road Tax, cyclists don't.

not road tax btw its motor tax

Harrybelafonte

Why can't we all just get along?

Ah I dream of a time when I can walk out my front door, catch a tram to my son's school, one that lets me rack my bike on its front. Drop Junior off and lesuirely (or turn on race mode, dependent on mood) cycle to work. Wake up on a Saturday morning to find no traffic and wonder if I'm in the mood to bring the Maserati for a spin up north or just cycle along the coast... Either way end my day with a hot whiskey and a nice cuban. Aaaaaaah

But that's not going to happen. Damn.

kenmc

petethedrummer wrote: »

That would be the North Louth English Dictionary.
Lesson 1: 'Path' is pronounced 'pad'.

but is still always spelled 'path'. Unless it's the first word in the sentence in which case it's spelled 'Path'.

petethedrummer wrote: »

Lesson 2: 'Up' can be pronounced 'op' or 'ap'.

but is always spelled 'up', again if it is the first word it would be spelled with a capital 'U' as in 'Up'.

It's really not that difficult in fairness. It's a very small word, 4 letters. I bet a 7 year old can get it right

E@gle.

E@gle. wrote: »

not road tax btw its motor tax

That was kinda my point!

Canis Lupus

petethedrummer wrote: »

That would be the North Louth English Dictionary.
Lesson 1: 'Path' is pronounced 'pad'.
Lesson 2: 'Up' can be pronounced 'op' or 'ap'.

Are you pulling the proverbial?

petethedrummer

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Are you pulling the proverbial?

No, I'm just keeping yous all informed of language developments in parts of north Louth.

Canis Lupus

petethedrummer wrote: »

No, I'm just keeping yous all informed of language developments in parts of north Louth.

Cool. We'll keep you informed on how to spell then regardless of pronunciation.

petethedrummer

Tanks

Canis Lupus

petethedrummer wrote: »

Tanks

Must..... not..... be....


It's thanks!!!!!

:P

ntlbell

el tonto wrote: »

Eh, what?

Sorry, I didn't think it was a complex question.

Let me dumb it down.

I'm driving down the road some twat on a bike is out in the middle of it.

I look to my left and there's two things.

One a footpath, this is where people walk.

Two a perfectly good cycle lane where this genius could be cycling.

Clear up the picture?

Canis Lupus

ntlbell wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't think it was a complex question.

Let me dumb it down.

I'm driving down the road some twat on a bike is out in the middle of it.

I look to my left and there's two things.

One a footpath, this is where people walk.

Two a perfectly good cycle lane where this genius could be cycling.

Clear up the picture?

Cyclists don't like cycling on glass, debris and **** that regularly hangs about cycle lanes. But like someone said earlier there are wanker cyclists like there are wanker drivers. Sh8t happens etc etc.

TinyExplosions

ntlbell wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't think it was a complex question.

Let me dumb it down.

I'm driving down the road some twat on a bike is out in the middle of it.

I look to my left and there's two things.

One a footpath, this is where people walk.

Two a perfectly good cycle lane where this genius could be cycling.

Clear up the picture?

Yes, but allow us to retort:

One, footpath is a moot point as we're not allowed to cycle on it

Two the 'perfectly good cycle lane' is usually full of detritus, broken glass, potholes, manhole covers, leaves etc etc, making us more likely to slip and come off under your wheels, thereby ruining your day.

Unless it's a solid white line, and a properly marked cycle lane, cyclists are not obliged to use it, we have the exact same rights on the road as you do.

Build a bridge and get over it

kenmc

ntlbell wrote: »

Two a perfectly good cycle lane

If you can tell that this is true from the comfort of your car, I'm incredibly impressed. Otherwise get out of your car and try cycle along it and see if you come to the same conclusion.

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

If you can tell that this is true from the comfort of your car, I'm incredibly impressed. Otherwise get out of your car and try cycle along it and see if you come to the same conclusion.

I don't need to as I cycle to work in the very same cycle lane about 50% of the time

kenmc

and the other 50% of the time you cycle where? what's wrong with the perfectly good cycle path?

ntlbell

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Yes, but allow us to retort:

One, footpath is a moot point as we're not allowed to cycle on it

Two the 'perfectly good cycle lane' is usually full of detritus, broken glass, potholes, manhole covers, leaves etc etc, making us more likely to slip and come off under your wheels, thereby ruining your day.

Unless it's a solid white line, and a properly marked cycle lane, cyclists are not obliged to use it, we have the exact same rights on the road as you do.

Build a bridge and get over it

This is not about rights.

It's about commonsense I don't really care where people cycle as long as it's not in the middle of the road holding the rest of the country up.

Stay in on the fecking left and let cars pass safely.

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

and the other 50% of the time you cycle where? what's wrong with the perfectly good cycle path?

The other 50% I'm in my car.....

kenmc

Oh god. A cycling driver with the mentality of a driver who has never been on a bike.

c0rk3r

ntlbell wrote: »

holding the rest of the country up.

Drama much ?

TinyExplosions

ntlbell wrote: »

This is not about rights.

It's about commonsense I don't really care where people cycle as long as it's not in the middle of the road holding the rest of the country up.

Stay in on the fecking left and let cars pass safely.

We will when drivers generally pass safely, instead of within 6 inches of a cyclist

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

Oh god. A cycling driver with the mentality of a driver who has never been on a bike.

Look, this is not brain surgery.

When I'm cycling I don't hold up traffic.

If there's no cycle lane I'm as close to the left as I can be, I'm not whaling out in the middle of the road causing obstructions traffic in Dublin is bad enough as it without me thinking I own the road on my bike.

This is not about a mentality it's about common _sense_

ntlbell

TinyExplosions wrote: »

We will when drivers generally pass safely, instead of within 6 inches of a cyclist

If they moved into the left they would have 18 inches

kenmc

You might be better off over here. You seem to fit in better.

ntlbell wrote: »

When I'm cycling I don't hold up traffic.

Cyclists ARE traffic.

TinyExplosions

kenmc wrote: »

You might be better off over here. You seem to fit in better.


Cyclists ARE traffic.

Yup, and we also like annoying motorists -it's so much fun to hold everyone up!

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

You might be better off over here. You seem to fit in better.


Cyclists ARE traffic.

what has that got to do with anything?

I don't hold up cyclists either.

kenmc

You said "When I'm cycling I don't hold up traffic" - implying that you make a distinction between cyclists and traffic. I was just pointing out your error.

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

You said "When I'm cycling I don't hold up traffic" - implying that you make a distinction between cyclists and traffic. I was just pointing out your error.

I didn't make one you did by assuming.

kenmc

See, cyclists are always wrong :rolleyes:

ntlbell

kenmc wrote: »

See, cyclists are always wrong :rolleyes:

Not in this case, just you. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I can do them to see?

Bunnyhopper

ntlbell wrote: »

If they moved into the left they would have 18 inches

No - they'd probably still have six inches on their right and a lot less of a safety margin on their left.

If you cycle you'll appreciate that not all drivers overtake safely and I for one allow myself a margin of error (for my error or someone else's). I'm not talking about holding up traffic, I just mean cycling in an assertive and defensive way.

As to the particular situation you're referring to - which roads and cycle lanes do you have in mind?

I also think that kenmc's point is a valid one and you'd have more credibility if you actually engaged: as it is, you've given the impression that you either don't want to address the point he's made, or you simply haven't understood his point.