leftovers on the moon

lostexpectation

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap081130.html

does anybody have a link to those recent pictures of all the junk left on the moon, the lander stage and moonrover etc.

can anybody find more info on the lunacar, the russian robot sent to the moon.

stylie

Isn't all that stuff lying on a sound stage over in Area 51 ?

localnutjob

nasa , esa , india , china , japan etc will not release pics of these sites
due to the amount of relics already on the moon from previous civilisations .

im not saying aliens either - its quite possible an early human civilistion - long long since disappeared
built this stuff

NASA went to the moon because its early probes like ranger found so many ruins etc they had to go to check it out- not because russia was beating them .

in fact Russia new full well about the same structures.
its in NASA'S interest to keep the " we never went to the moon" story alive
NASA its self created the story of the moon landings being faked - so kill all interest in the real truth.

the moon is covered in anceint ruins ,
and NASA ( and the NSA ) do not want you to know about it .

Scruff

living up to your username eh?
good thing you didnt call yourself RascistFascist and try living up to that name in yer posts
:rolleyes:

localnutjob

thats a good point

Shinjuku

localnutjob wrote: »

nasa , esa , india , china , japan etc will not release pics of these sites
due to the amount of relics already on the moon from previous civilisations .

im not saying aliens either - its quite possible an early human civilistion - long long since disappeared
built this stuff

NASA went to the moon because its early probes like ranger found so many ruins etc they had to go to check it out- not because russia was beating them .

in fact Russia new full well about the same structures.
its in NASA'S interest to keep the " we never went to the moon" story alive
NASA its self created the story of the moon landings being faked - so kill all interest in the real truth.

the moon is covered in anceint ruins ,
and NASA ( and the NSA ) do not want you to know about it .

lostexpectation

ah found a docu on the Lunokhods

http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Tank_on_the_Moon

lostexpectation

this article says from day one they weren't sure where most of em landed so its hard to findl where they are now.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060327_mystery_monday.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_the_Moon

lostexpectation

http://www.google.com/moon/#lat=7.362466&lon=10.458984
apollo sites on google moon

mukki

localnutjob wrote: »

nasa , esa , india , china , japan etc will not release pics of these sites
due to the amount of relics already on the moon from previous civilisations .

im not saying aliens either - its quite possible an early human civilistion - long long since disappeared
built this stuff

NASA went to the moon because its early probes like ranger found so many ruins etc they had to go to check it out- not because russia was beating them .

in fact Russia new full well about the same structures.
its in NASA'S interest to keep the " we never went to the moon" story alive
NASA its self created the story of the moon landings being faked - so kill all interest in the real truth.

the moon is covered in anceint ruins ,
and NASA ( and the NSA ) do not want you to know about it .

ahhaahahahahahahaahaha

coylemj

Reflectors left on the Moon by Apollo and (unmanned) Soviet missions continue to be used to this day to accurately measure the Earth-Moon distance and to calibrate the rotation of the Earth which in turn is used to determine when we need to add leap seconds to standard time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_laser_ranging_experiment

A7X

localnutjob wrote: »

nasa , esa , india , china , japan etc will not release pics of these sites
due to the amount of relics already on the moon from previous civilisations .

im not saying aliens either - its quite possible an early human civilistion - long long since disappeared
built this stuff

NASA went to the moon because its early probes like ranger found so many ruins etc they had to go to check it out- not because russia was beating them .

in fact Russia new full well about the same structures.
its in NASA'S interest to keep the " we never went to the moon" story alive
NASA its self created the story of the moon landings being faked - so kill all interest in the real truth.

the moon is covered in anceint ruins ,
and NASA ( and the NSA ) do not want you to know about it .

And where did u get all this info? lol

Delphi91

localnutjob wrote: »

...the moon is covered in anceint ruins ,
and NASA ( and the NSA ) do not want you to know about it .

But obviously you know about it, so they haven't done a very good job of keeping it a secret, now have they???...:rolleyes:

localhothead

its been leaked by people who worked on it , if you open your mind and instead of just accepting what you are told by the one organisation that controls all access to the data - then you would see the truth - I was a pure science believer until I saw the evidence now freely avaiable - its obvious as hell that they are covering up evidence of ancient civilisations ( which may have been human - not alien )

i dont give a damn if you or anyone else believe in aliens - but i do give a damn that a sceintific body is lying to us - blatantly .

they have been systematically editing and changing the information thay control to cover this up - and everything you ( and I ) as astronomy fans know - is a pure lie.


take the south massif from taurus-littrow for example
do you seriously think mountains have a symmetrical hexagonal shape ??
that "mountain" in the bottom left is so obviously artificial its not funny

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_17/images/hi_res_vert_lg.gif


conversations of the apollo teams show they talked in a code

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/sections-printpage-571.html

evidence that the moon pictures are a combo of real on site pics and
studio model pics - so much stuff to cover up they had to fake alot of pics to sanitise them.

http://www.aulis.com/exposing_apollo1.htm


yeah, NASA - Never A Straight Answer

Delphi91

OK, so you're suggesting that NASA made the whole thing up, doctored photos, etc, correct? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't (I'm inclined to come down on the latter side).

So, what proof do you have that the leaked data is true?

I'm just curious why you dismiss one organisation because "leaked" information says differently. Why should the latter be true?

take the south massif from taurus-littrow for example
do you seriously think mountains have a symmetrical hexagonal shape ??
that "mountain" in the bottom left is so obviously artificial its not funny

I take it that the Giants Causeway was built by aliens also because of the hexagonal shapes there too? Ever seen the salt flats in the Atacama Desert in South America? They have hexagonal patterns on them also - more alien structures?

Redshift

Moved from Astronomy!

A7X

localhothead wrote: »

its been leaked by people who worked on it , if you open your mind and instead of just accepting what you are told by the one organisation that controls all access to the data - then you would see the truth - I was a pure science believer until I saw the evidence now freely avaiable - its obvious as hell that they are covering up evidence of ancient civilisations ( which may have been human - not alien )

i dont give a damn if you or anyone else believe in aliens - but i do give a damn that a sceintific body is lying to us - blatantly .

they have been systematically editing and changing the information thay control to cover this up - and everything you ( and I ) as astronomy fans know - is a pure lie.


take the south massif from taurus-littrow for example
do you seriously think mountains have a symmetrical hexagonal shape ??
that "mountain" in the bottom left is so obviously artificial its not funny

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_17/images/hi_res_vert_lg.gif


conversations of the apollo teams show they talked in a code

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/sections-printpage-571.html

evidence that the moon pictures are a combo of real on site pics and
studio model pics - so much stuff to cover up they had to fake alot of pics to sanitise them.

http://www.aulis.com/exposing_apollo1.htm


yeah, NASA - Never A Straight Answer

I really didn't believe any of this at all, but now after looking at those links and actually reading it all without disregarding it, there is obviously something a miss. I really think everyone should go to those links. Specially the One about the pictures realised, so obviously done in a studio. I really think it was intentional by the technicians doing it in hope that ppl would realise they were being faked.

I still believe whole heartedly that we have been to the moon but something is being covered up.

localhothead

moved because you are too scared to see the truth

A7X

A7X wrote: »

I really didn't believe any of this at all, but now after looking at those links and actually reading it all without disregarding it, there is obviously something a miss. I really think everyone should go to those links. Specially the One about the pictures realised, so obviously done in a studio. I really think it was intentional by the technicians doing it in hope that ppl would realise they were being faked.

I still believe whole heartedly that we have been to the moon but something is being covered up.

What exactly is being covered up? And how did you come to this conclusion?

If it was all shot in a studio how do you explain the mountain of other evidence that show other wise?

localhothead

localhothead wrote: »

moved because you are too scared to see the truth

That or moon hoax theories are just without merit.

youcrazyjesus!

What about moon rocks? (independently verified
of not being of terrestrial origin)

Who sourced these if not Apollo crews?

6th

Just a note for anyone intending on posting on this topic. As this has been moved to the Conspiracy Theories Forum I would ask that everyone familiarize themselves with the Charter of this forum.

6th

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

What about moon rocks? (independently verified
of not being of terrestrial origin)

Who sourced these if not Apollo crews?

independently verified by who?

youcrazyjesus!

Scientists around the world, they surely aren't all in on it.

Lord Trollington

what benefit would anyone get from covering aliens, landing on the moon, sasquatch ect up?

Diogenes

6th wrote: »

independently verified by who?

Moonrocks have been sent and shared with 100s of labs across, the world. If we are to believe they are faked we pretty much need to assume the entire profession of geology is in on it.

Diogenes

Diogenes wrote: »

Moonrocks have been sent and shared with 100s of labs across, the world. If we are to believe they are faked we pretty much need to assume the entire profession of geology is in on it.

I don't know. I know some geologist and those guys are fairly shifty.

humanji

whycliff wrote: »

what benefit would anyone get from covering aliens, landing on the moon, sasquatch ect up?

Conspiracy theorists would lose a fortune on book deals, tv programs and advertisment on their webpages. They can leak little bits of info every now and again to keep people interested and sales up.

kiffer

King Mob wrote: »

I don't know. I know some geologist and those guys are fairly shifty.

I can say one thing for the samples of moon rock in Trinity's geology department... Some of them are amongst the most beautiful samples I've ever had the privilege of examining under a microscope... and some of them are a horrible mess of crud welded together...

kryogen

whycliff wrote: »

what benefit would anyone get from covering aliens, landing on the moon, sasquatch ect up?

that seems a naive question to me, why do you think governments or organisations would cover anything up?

to keep information for themselves, to avoid public panic, to try to control whatever technology or fuels/minerals/energy sources for their own gain!

i dont believe we are being told everything about what has been seen and photographed on the moon, i do believe there has been moon landings and i believe there must be some things the US government has decided are too sensitive or potentially damaging to be shared with the public.

The truth is that until the government decides we are allowed know the full truth, we wont know the full truth...... for our own protection of course :rolleyes:

meglome

kryogen wrote: »

that seems a naive question to me, why do you think governments or organisations would cover anything up?

to keep information for themselves, to avoid public panic, to try to control whatever technology or fuels/minerals/energy sources for their own gain!

Governments make stuff to sell to the public for profit? I didn't realise.

kryogen wrote: »

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i dont believe we are being told everything about what has been seen and photographed on the moon, i do believe there has been moon landings and i believe there must be some things the US government has decided are too sensitive or potentially damaging to be shared with the public.

The truth is that until the government decides we are allowed know the full truth, we wont know the full truth...... for our own protection of course :rolleyes:

And yet here we are talking about all sorts free as a bird. Where's the evidence for your beliefs?

kryogen

look lad, if you dont accept that governments classify information and censor certain subjects then there really isnt any point in me replying to you is there

you asked for examples of why they would cover up stuff, i gave them.... i didnt say this is what they are doing for a fact. just obvious examples for why they would....

you misuderstood my post anyway, or possibly misunderstand the way the world works, judging by your first response in the multi quote

if you want examples of governments covering up activities or working under false flag operations google it yourself and dont be so lazy

the information is all around you, im not your daddy

meglome

kryogen wrote: »

look lad, if you dont accept that governments classify information and censor certain subjects then there really isnt any point in me replying to you is there.

you asked for examples of why they would cover up stuff, i gave them.... i didnt say this is what they are doing for a fact. just obvious examples for why they would....

That's not what the point was. I know they cover things up and classify things. The point is exactly what and for what reason. You said it was for profit. I said I didn't know that governments sold things to actually make a profit. So how do they make this profit?

kryogen wrote: »

you misuderstood my post anyway, or possibly misunderstand the way the world works, judging by your first response in the multi quote

Not at all. You're just stating things I don't think you can prove.

kryogen wrote: »

If you want examples of governments covering up activities or working under false flag operations google it yourself and dont be so lazy

the information is all around you, im not your daddy

I read lot of stuff on supposed false flag operations. And to be honest the 'evidence' was little thin on the ground. Lot's of people saying lot's of things happened but without direct evidence. Does this mean they don't happen? Nope it doesn't. But if they are so common then the evidence should be all over the place.

And nope you're not my daddy, he never told me things were true 'just cause'.

kryogen

im not gonna tell you anything is true "just cause" either, id be obliged if you could show me where i say that governments sell things or cover up things for profits though..... that would be interesting since i didnt say it...... maybe you should read posts?? and id thank you not to put words in my mouth in future

i dont care what you believe or dont believe, i dont need to justify myself to you, apologies but your just not that important to me mate, nothing personal

Hunchback

Isn't this particular conspiracy theory, the one with the "obviously manmade" structures evident in the photograph, very similar to the purportedly manmade stuctures on the surface of Mars in an area called Cydonia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_Mensae

it really tickles the imagination