The word 'spic'

A_SN

Kold wrote: »

That's your elocution letting you down. I can say the two words so they sound distinctly different.

It's colloquialism, if the word "boyo" was declared bad taste, do you think it'd stop the scobes who use "f*ck" instead of pauses in their sentences?

The way I see it is that it is a double standard that a black person can use a word that a white guy can't but in all honesty, why would you want to say it?

Are you sure that elocution would make such a difference in how it would be perceived, coming from someone like me? I'm not entirely convinced so.

And yes, it's annoying that whereas a black guy can use that word casually, I can only use it as an insult. The only reason I could see for wanting to use it outside of the scope of racial slurs would be over mimicry, which is one reason I'm glad I don't live among a majority of black people who would use that word, because such details would make it annoying.

Acacia

snyper wrote: »

Irish are referred to as 'spud nigg3rs'

go google

AFAIK, we were also referred to as 'white ni**ers'. Or wiggers.

carlop wrote: »

Yeah obviously I did, they'd never heard of it so I don't think they really knew what to make of it. When I tried explaining it, I wasn't sure how exactly to classify it as an insult eg. how bad it is, what I could compare it to etc. hence the thread.

Your Spanish friends probably never heard of it, because, to the best of knowledge, it's used mainly as an insult towards Hispanic people in the U.S. 'Wetback' is another one. I've never heard any Spanish people here being called it, so I'm guessing that the enlightened individuals that used it towards your friends were probably copying it off the t.v. or the internet.

And it is offensive. Negatively generalizing an entire group of people based on where they come from or their ethnicity is pretty bad, I think.

AckwelFoley

ShooterSF wrote: »

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anonymous_joe

Acacia wrote: »

AFAIK, we were also referred to as 'white ni**ers'. Or wiggers.

The genius of racists - it insults the Irish by comparing them to n*ggers and the blacks by referring to them as n*ggers. Pretty moronic at the end of the day. Not to mention nasty and unpleasant.

Acacia

anonymous_joe wrote: »

The genius of racists - it insults the Irish by comparing them to n*ggers and the blacks by referring to them as n*ggers. Pretty moronic at the end of the day. Not to mention nasty and unpleasant.

I know, I think the idea behind was that we had all the supposedly 'negative' qualities of black people ( i.e. being poor, uneducated, etc) but we had white skin.

I heard another derogatory term for Irish people recently- 'mickroach'. I've never heard it before. It saddens me that people go to time and effort to think up this crap, really.

anonymous_joe

Acacia wrote: »

I know, I think the idea behind was that we had all the supposedly 'negative' qualities of black people ( i.e. being poor, uneducated, etc) but we had white skin.

I heard another derogatory term for Irish people recently- 'mickroach'. I've never heard it before. It saddens me that people go to time and effort to think up this crap, really.

Ah yeah. Anti-Irish racism in America only really receded when there were massive influxes of people who spoke no English at all. The Irish weren't as bad at that stage.

Mickroach? That took effort. In fairness racism's everywhere ya go. Plenty of Irish people willing to insult black people and Asians here. Easy to blame someone else for your own problems rather than engage in self-analysis.

Acacia

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Ah yeah. Anti-Irish racism in America only really receded when there were massive influxes of people who spoke no English at all. The Irish weren't as bad at that stage.

Mickroach? That took effort. In fairness racism's everywhere ya go. Plenty of Irish people willing to insult black people and Asians here. Easy to blame someone else for your own problems rather than engage in self-analysis.

Indeed. Some of my friends get this kinda crap. It's easy to say ' ah, it's just a word' or whatever when you've never experienced it. You would think in this day and age people would have moved on from this kind of thinking, but no. It's sad really.

anonymous_joe

Acacia wrote: »

Indeed. Some of my friends get this kinda crap. It's easy to say ' ah, it's just a word' or whatever when you've never experienced it. You would think in this day and age people would have moved on from this kind of thinking, but no. It's sad really.

Well...

Ignorance is always inevitable. I know plenty of people who'll tell you that Chinese people are great, but that they hate Nigerians. It's easy to label people, and it's sadly overly common.

The difference between now and the past is that people acknowledge that such things are wrong. More and more people object to this kind of attitude. Thirty years ago or so a black man was picked for the English football side for the first time. It was widely believed at the time that black footballers were lazier and more cowardly. No-one believes that nowadays. So there's progress, but it'll take time and exposure.