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The word 'spic'

  • 29-11-2008 12:55PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭


    I was out last night with a few Spanish mates in town, they were with a pretty big group, and I heard them referred to as 'spics' a couple of times. I'm not some crazed member of the PC brigade or anything but I was wondering how bad to be people think this word is? Is it a racial slur or is it a harmless nickname?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Never heard of it before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,217 ✭✭✭✭biko


    As bad as kikes and **** I think, actually maybe not as bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    carlop wrote: »
    I was out last night with a few Spanish mates in town, they were with a pretty big group, and I heard them referred to as 'spics' a couple of times. I'm not some crazed member of the PC brigade or anything but I was wondering how bad to be people think this word is? Is it a racial slur or is it a harmless nickname?

    HISPANIC, it's a shortening of that AFAIK.

    Not usually used as a harmless nickname


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    HISPANIC, it's a shortening of that AFAIK.

    Not usually used as a harmless nickname

    Ah yeah I know where it comes from, its just that its used so much more than other racist terms and doesn't appear to have the same taboo about it.

    For example last night we were in a bar and someone came out of the jacks, looked around and said jesus the place is full of spics. Now if I'd been out with a group of black people I'm guessing he wouldn't have said 'jesus this place is full of ****.'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    It's pretty bad form, alright. Mostly it's just the N word that's off limits for direct use but that is a term of racial abuse. It doesn't have the connotations of the N word though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭ART6


    biko wrote: »
    As bad as kikes and **** I think, actually maybe not as bad.

    Or as bad as "Paddies"??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Simi


    Given that it's an almost exclusively american term, that's not as widely known as other forms of racial slurs I wouldn't see it as being that bad tbh.

    It is mainly used in a joking manner outside america, i'd imagine. Tbh I don't see why people get all riled up about this sort of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,510 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Great video!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Yea that word is quite racist... Same as the N word... Not very nice to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    carlop wrote: »
    Ah yeah I know where it comes from, its just that its used so much more than other racist terms and doesn't appear to have the same taboo about it.

    For example last night we were in a bar and someone came out of the jacks, looked around and said jesus the place is full of spics. Now if I'd been out with a group of black people I'm guessing he wouldn't have said 'jesus this place is full of ****.'


    Quite possibly it's because it doesn't refer to a particular skin colour but rather an ethnic origin,which seems to be a bit more acceptable than raw skin colour.

    OK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    People using the word are either racist or extremely ignorant.

    A lot of people seem far too comfortable throwing the word 'chink' around too I find.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Spic is a bit like Dago and Brit bastard, on the second tier of common abuse.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭ronnie3585




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Its bad but i find "spink-sponks" worse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    If used in a derogatory way it's bloody awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    ive spent a couple of summers working in spain, and although i wouldnt class it as bad as **** if used in the wrong context,it can cause offence.it all depends how you use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Whether or not its as bad as the "n" word should be irrelevant. Surely we should have no place for derogartory terms like "spic" in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Did you not think to ask your Spanish friends how they felt about it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    While the exact origin of the word isn't known, some Latin Americans in the United States believe that some of the Ethnic groups referred to Hispanic Americans using the word as play on their accented pronunciation of the English word "speak" (as in "No spic English").


    is it racist to lol this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    As far as American TV is reliable, it's very bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It would be somewhere in severity between "Jew" and "N_____" as a racial slur, so it is quite offensive, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Overheal wrote: »
    It would be somewhere in severity between "Jew" and "N_____" as a racial slur, so it is quite offensive, yes.

    Jew isn't a racial slur.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,796 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Kold wrote: »
    Jew isn't a racial slur.
    Yeah, but he spelt it with a German accent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mumhaabu


    It is an American term that not alot of English speaking Europeans know of, I have heard it in New York and it is highly offensive akin to "N" for African Americans. Spiclita is often used to refer to a female Latino and spiclet for Latino children similar to niglet used of black children. If you ever played the GTA 4 video game or other similar ones you'd soon pick up on the American slang which is quite offensive to those involved. Gringo is a popular derogatory (although tolerated by the liberal PC brigade) that is used to refer to white people by those of spanish speaking backgrounds.

    All those words are extremly derogatory and using the word spic amongst white people can have bad consequences as alot of "White" people are actually Hispanic and with the melting pot of America it is hard to tell who is who, whereas you can tell a black person rather easily. It is probably something picked up by J1'ers and they use it here in an attempt to seem modern and cultured. :rolleyes: *spontaneously vomits*

    Latino people in America get alot of abuse and quite often it comes from blacks and Asians as the way it goes in America is, Whites either like or hate everybody, blacks blame everybody for their own self inflicted problems, Latinos dislike blacks and Asians consider themselves above everybody but really aspire to White Culture, obviously these are sweeping generalisations but it is how they are portrayed but there is an element of truth in it especially when you look at the voting records of the various ethnic groups.

    Also I must add Latino women are gorgeous!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    People using the word are either racist or extremely ignorant.

    A lot of people seem far too comfortable throwing the word 'chink' around too I find.

    Oddly enough, I've heard people refer to a Chinese takeaway as a Chinky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    It is an American term that not alot of English speaking Europeans know of, I have heard it in New York and it is highly offensive akin to "N" for African Americans. Spiclita is often used to refer to a female Latino and spiclet for Latino children similar to niglet used of black children. If you ever played the GTA 4 video game or other similar ones you'd soon pick up on the American slang which is quite offensive to those involved. Gringo is a popular derogatory (although tolerated by the liberal PC brigade) that is used to refer to white people by those of spanish speaking backgrounds.

    All those words are extremly derogatory and using the word spic amongst white people can have bad consequences as alot of "White" people are actually Hispanic and with the melting pot of America it is hard to tell who is who, whereas you can tell a black person rather easily. It is probably something picked up by J1'ers and they use it here in an attempt to seem modern and cultured. :rolleyes: *spontaneously vomits*

    Latino people in America get alot of abuse and quite often it comes from blacks and Asians as the way it goes in America is, Whites either like or hate everybody, blacks blame everybody for their own self inflicted problems, Latinos dislike blacks and Asians consider themselves above everybody but really aspire to White Culture, obviously these are sweeping generalisations but it is how they are portrayed but there is an element of truth in it especially when you look at the voting records of the various ethnic groups.

    Also I must add Latino women are gorgeous!!

    That's racist against ugly Latino birds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    Terry wrote: »
    Did you not think to ask your Spanish friends how they felt about it?

    Yeah obviously I did, they'd never heard of it so I don't think they really knew what to make of it. When I tried explaining it, I wasn't sure how exactly to classify it as an insult eg. how bad it is, what I could compare it to etc. hence the thread.


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