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Commenting on pics - enough is enough

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,772 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake but I saw very little perving in either the Lads or Ladies thread.


    I thought everyone in it was lovely, nearly every person who posted up a pic had someone remarking on something they liked about them. Loads of women in the Ladies thread commenting on how much they liked one anothers dresses or hair. Guys on tattoos or some such thing.
    It was nice, none of that stereotypical bitchiness women are mean to be bad about, or any of the male drooling that they're meant to be terrible about.

    Personally I thought the whole thing was nicely done, veritable hippy fest.

    There were a few people who posted repeatedly but even then I didn't see them just fawning over the "attractive" ones and being nice to pretty much everyone.

    I agree 100%. The feedback seems overwhelmingly or completely positive. Both threads are popular, friendly and populated with pics too. What's the problem with that?

    Where some comments have been negative, the poster seems to be rounded upon by most. The point of that thread should be that it's not the KYN thread. I think people are objecting to any post without a picture rather than the content of the post in question. To me that's pointless. You may as well just post a link to your picture in the KYN thread than make another one.

    There's always going to be people who won't post their pics and the format of a thread on the internet won't change them. It's just a picture thread with some fun - why are people trying to comment on why people post or don't post pics in it or psychology of the posts? So what if there's three pages of chat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    /wonders if someones new gf has a pic in the thread and if so what was said....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭Nuravictus


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    /wonders if someones new gf has a pic in the thread and if so what was said....

    Player :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I thought one of the Noc mods really should make a comment on this thread, as our pic thread is the exact opposite- we have very, very strict rules about posting pics. No chatting is allowed without the posting of a pic. This changes the simple act of writing "u r teh sxy can i hav a go?" into a bit more effort, and consequentially most of the over the top comments simply no longer happen. Interestingly enough the remaining people who breach this rule tend to be those who should know better. :)

    I also know a couple of female posters who have indicated that this is the reason they use our pic thread instead of others. But thats cool, different strokes.


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Point to note: without the comments to keep the thread alive (i.e near the top of the forum listing) it would have disappeared from page one ages ago and died. And that would have meant no more new pix. :)

    On a more personally sobering note, I'd be upset to think anyone found any of my comments off-colour or sleazy.

    Actually- and rather suprisingly- not true. There is over 500 images in know your nocturnals and it is, as the noc forum becomes more and more closely knit, glued to the first page. And it's not stickied.

    Lets be honest here. There is always an element of people, usually men, on the internet who seem to not get social interaction and use teh innerwebz as a dating service, but instead of using wit/ charm/ devastating good looks they come accross as sleazy. And it can kill a good site.

    I won't insult the tLL mods by saying they don't nail people to the wall who they find doing that, I don't follow them but I would say they have the odd problem with it by dint of the nature of the forum. I know we have had in the Nocturnal forum. In fact, I would say it's a rare mod that doesn't.

    I think the real trick to moderating in social fora is deciding where the "flirt line" is. For example, the line is drawn really, really tight in our pic thread, and it needs to be. However we recently relaxed our rules on flirting in the rest of the forum. A light bit of flirting is social oil to be honest, and is needed (and seeing as the Noc is the first social forum without a gender bias, I think we might be finding our own path on that).

    Ok, so where am I going with this.

    If the thread is beginning to cause trouble for the tLL posters, I would suggest looking at tightening up the rules in that thread. But tightening doesn't necessarily mean super strict, just finding the balance to keep it going.

    The second the thread becomes more work than fun to post in it will start to die: but it will also die if it gets abused by the "Hai, ASL" crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    g'em wrote: »
    Edit: and if certain comments annoy people, why isn't the report post function being used more often?

    Because unless something is out-and-out offensive, people are afraid that doing something like clicking "Report post" is over the top.

    I know that personally I find some of the comments way over the top, and a bit sleazy, and have seen some people fawn over particular ladies and even almost follow them to other places they post and constantly refer to how attracted to the lady they are. That I find disturbing, and commented on it.

    Most people however are loathe to use the report function.

    Will, thanks for making this topic, and I think it's about time some of the male posters in the Ladies of tLL toned it down a notch or two.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,878 ✭✭✭Rozabeez


    *Applauds*


    Will,

    I.O.U one pint.

    Signed,

    Rozabeez.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Jackz


    Rozabeez wrote: »
    *Applauds*


    Will,

    I.O.U one pint.

    Signed,

    Rozabeez.

    Point proven.


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I hate the idea of a chatless gallery Ladies or Lads thread.
    The only thing that does in my opinion is to make it easier for people to perve and rate. If they are that way inclined.

    My idea of that thread is that it is a place to put a face to a username. Or put cool photos.
    So if I was posting it in I would appreciate that someone acknowledged the pic.

    My opinion matters more than stinky Wills, I have a who ha!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Nuravictus wrote: »
    Its not like anyone posting things "there" going to score a girl from the internet. Dont read the threads if its such a issue for you.
    You're very very wrong on that score I'm afraid :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Bijoux


    g'em wrote: »
    It's becoming a forum-by-forum thing. tLL is one of the more social fora and so the policy is a little more loose where the flirting/ no-flirting thing is concerned.

    Maybe it's time to introduce a "only post with a pic" policy, or maybe the inane flirting just needs to calm down.

    I completely agree with this.
    Yes, having an only 'post with pic' policy would require more effort, but the chat could still exist, just not necessarily as much
    . They are pictures threads after all.
    Tragedy wrote: »
    Sure just thank the posts, even visitor messages or PM's over pics are a little...sleazy imho.

    Unless it's like a girl asking a girl where she bought something etc.

    Pics help make the PEOPLE you chat with on boards more than text personalities. It's not so you sleaze it up and hook up.

    >.>
    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I hate the idea of a chatless gallery Ladies or Lads thread.
    The only thing that does in my opinion is to make it easier for people to perve and rate. If they are that way inclined.

    My idea of that thread is that it is a place to put a face to a username. Or put cool photos.
    So if I was posting it in I would appreciate that someone acknowledged the pic.

    My opinion matters more than stinky Wills, I have a who ha!:mad:


    Also agree.
    The thing about TLL is that the same people tend to post over and over...so it's nice to be able to put the face to the name, thats what these threads are for (imo)

    Everything should be taken lighthearted, with perhaps a pinch of salt at times.

    Perhaps a good idea would to be to merge the two threads, and restrict it to pics only?
    That way, everyone gets to know everyone without all the excess chat, which could serve towards keeping one of the more topic-focused threads alive.

    Having said that, I'm not too pushed one way or the other.
    Just my 2c :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Will wrote: »
    Starting to really grate on me. In picture threads for example, the ladies of the ladies lounge. A girl will put up a picture, great and wahey. Then the torrents of sleazy/borderline cheese coated comments arrive. Not just 1 or 2 but a whole bunch.

    It takes away from the thread and fills it with useless blather from members fawning over girls/guys. Which normally wouldn't bother me but it's the sheer amount of crap that is spouted. Biblical proportions.

    If ya like what ya see why not just pop them a friendly message on their page? Or engage them in conversation in another thread? Or even a non sleazy PM? I do agree that it is only a bit of fun, but only to a point.

    My hand quickly reaches for the puke bucket at some of the comments

    Reminds me of myspace and having randomers just comment on pics cos they're hot. Totally and utterly pointless. Doesn't add anything.

    Anyway im done ranting

    Hear hear.

    The single reason, if there is one, for making these types of threads pics and no conversation.

    Some of the comments were so cheesey/sleazy they made me feel queezy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    nummnutts wrote: »
    Some of the comments were so cheesey/sleazy they made me feel queezy.

    Did you report them ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Did you report them ?

    My report button would have been worn out.

    How and ever, I had raised the idea of changing the thread to a post with pics only one at some stage in the past, but it was frowned upon. So I gave up at that point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Did you report them ?



    Is there much point? I doubt it says in the charter that sleazy comments are unacceptabe. Also one mans cheddar is another m ans champange so it's a tough thing to clamp down on. And I think once the person who the sleazy is aimed at doesnt mind it's hard to warn someone over it.


    Although you do see some poster in the tread who really are Kings when it comes to the pathetic sleazeness that I'm suprised nothing is done about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    the thread / threads started off great i think

    but its been around for way too long

    its the same people over and over with the same crappy pictures(dont get me wrong people look great in the pics they are just boring pictures). the recent ones of gem for example are more like it and the other arty attempts by dragan and the guy who tried to make himself look like a baby amongst other things

    i think general chatter should be stopped and ten pages of different people saying hawt(i was probably guilty of this too in the early days of the thread) as should the typical im in a pub getting drunk and snapped a shot with a camera phone pics OR at least only allow one or two of these types of pics per poster so that the new posters dont feel they have to pay someone to take pro pics of them

    it is a bit of fun but its getting off topic and boring at the moment.....it would be a shame to lose altogether though as there are ALOT of pictures in both the threads which is unusual for an internet forum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    the thread / threads started off great i think

    Spot on.

    When the Lads and Ladies threads started it was a relatively small community in here and served as a great way to have a chat, get to know each other. I remember myself and ClareBear remarking in thread that it felt more like a normal conversation than a thread on a message board. Good fun was had, there were some running themes involved and we all just had a laugh with posting pictures. Hell, i even took on the challenge of trying to make a man bag look good! lol

    Two things killed the thread, tLL turned into a pretty great forum and people, both male and female, on the internet turned out to be a bit hotter than expected.

    Maybe merge the threads and or close down the current ones and start a singular thread and just pop in a rule that if you don't post a pick then you can't comment. Take away the meat market feel and get it back to being a community. I used to much prefer the free flow post what you want when you want days but sadly it seems that is part of the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    g'em wrote: »
    Are the crass comments annoying people?

    Yes, me for one, and I haven't even had any directed at me. I feel intensely sorry for a couple of other female posters who now cannot post a pic without being hopped on by specific male posters... it's reaching stalkerish proportions. And given that tLL is one of the most socially active forums, I think it presents a problem there - I personally would not be happy going to any meetup with those male posters, so I can only imagine how the female posters in question feel.
    g'em wrote: »
    Is it simply that girls want to put up their picture but with no thanking/ comments allowed? And if so, frankly, why?

    I think that may be the way to go. Most of the comments are fine, but it's gotten to the stage where every pic is followed by about 3 pages of comments and it's just so creepy. As you said yourself, g'em, tLL is supposed to be a safe space for women to escape the 'maleness' of the rest of boards - now it's turning into a complete cattle mart where men go to chat up chicks, and whether it's in good fun or not, it's seriously offputting. Just take for one example the 'Nyom Awards' thread that went up that you closed - if anyone thinks that kind of thing is acceptable in a women's forum then we have a serious problem.

    g'em wrote: »
    Are girls afraid to post their picture for fear of being judged?

    I'm not, I have posted my pic in the thread and had no problems with comments, sleazy or otherwise. However, I imagine that some female posters are, since now it seems to have become a place for men to comment on how hot the female posters are. There's no doubt that's intimidating, how could it not be?

    g'em wrote: »
    If certain comments annoy people, why isn't the report post function being used more often?

    Because it seems presumptuous to report a post that's a comment on another person's picture without knowing if the person is actually offended themselves. Perhaps they enjoy the attention, so I kind of feel it's not my place to report it.

    However, the atmosphere of almost predation in here at times bothers me to the point of putting me off coming into tLL altogether.

    SDooM wrote: »
    I think the real trick to moderating in social fora is deciding where the "flirt line" is. For example, the line is drawn really, really tight in our pic thread, and it needs to be. However we recently relaxed our rules on flirting in the rest of the forum. A light bit of flirting is social oil to be honest, and is needed (and seeing as the Noc is the first social forum without a gender bias, I think we might be finding our own path on that).

    If the thread is beginning to cause trouble for the tLL posters, I would suggest looking at tightening up the rules in that thread. But tightening doesn't necessarily mean super strict, just finding the balance to keep it going.

    Spot on Doom. I post in the Noc Forum too and it's much, much, much less intimidating. The way the pics thread is set up is fantastic, and I think we should follow the same example here. There are undoubtedly male posters who are in tLL for the sole purpose of perving on women - and that's just not right. Making posting a pic obligatory would eliminate this to a certain extent and make sure that the people who are posting are giving to the forum and not just taking. Of course, this would mean that the lads and ladies threads would have to be merged - but this mightn't be a bad thing either, it would make it less pervy overall methinks.
    Because unless something is out-and-out offensive, people are afraid that doing something like clicking "Report post" is over the top.

    I know that personally I find some of the comments way over the top, and a bit sleazy, and have seen some people fawn over particular ladies and even almost follow them to other places they post and constantly refer to how attracted to the lady they are. That I find disturbing, and commented on it.

    Most people however are loathe to use the report function.

    Will, thanks for making this topic, and I think it's about time some of the male posters in the Ladies of tLL toned it down a notch or two.

    +1 Damo. Perhaops other posters haven't noticed this, but I have and it really worries me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    For a long time boards held with the there are no wimmin on the internet cos for the post part those of us who were female didn't what that exact shíte happening to us when we'd post.

    Yes boards has come a long way from when there was less then 20 posters who happened to be female but that does not mean that we want or a need people being made to feel uncomfortable or feeling they are being ranked or rated on looks or taken less seriously due to how they look.

    pix_plz.png

    Boards isn't bebo not should it be allowed to become that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Thanks everyone for such fantastic and constructive feedback, I think we're getting a much better image of what everyone's feelings are about what's going on.

    I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that people feel so reluctant to use the report post function or even to bring these things to our attention before it comes to a head like this. The Mods don't dictate how the forum is run: that's up to you guys, we just try and keep things tidy and make sure the rules (that the users by and large dictate) are followed. If nothing is said we can only presume that everything is hunky dory.

    As has previously said, tLL is one of the more social fora, and is also one of the busiest fora on boards.ie (Vexorg showed us the figures!!) and personally I believe one of the reasons behind its success is the comfortable amalgamation of serious topics and... well, less serious ones :p It's going to be swings and roundabouts too, there will be periods where the front page is jammed with debates and discussions (as was the case about 2-3 wks ago) and then there'll times when sillier, fun threads become popular.

    The ability for tLL users to chat and interact with each other has proven to be a succesful format for the forum and close friendships have formed and bonded, I'd hate to see that element to be lost. But I'd hate for the target audience of the forum to feel uncomortable in the corner of boards.ie that was created specifically for them.

    Personally I have no problem being a hard ass with idiots who are not part of this target demographic, but until this discussion was started I didn't know that people felt so strongly about the highly flirty tone that exists in some threads. Know I know differently, let the fun begin :D

    Leave this with us but keep providing food for thought, we'll try and hammer something out soon :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Tragedy wrote: »
    I dont see the OP saying anything about people being judged? Or many other people for that matter. Which is what you posted about and Zaph was replying to.

    Perhaps re-read the thread.

    SDooM wrote: »
    I thought one of the Noc mods really should make a comment on this thread, as our pic thread is the exact opposite- we have very, very strict rules about posting pics. No chatting is allowed without the posting of a pic. This changes the simple act of writing "u r teh sxy can i hav a go?" into a bit more effort, and consequentially most of the over the top comments simply no longer happen. I also know a couple of female posters who have indicated that this is the reason they use our pic thread instead of others.

    Absolutely, in fact it was the Know your Nocturnals thread I was referring to when I said:
    MizzLolly wrote: »
    I posted a pic once on boards, in a forum I knew comments weren't allowed.
    That thread is controlled very well. No comments are allowed without pics and for the most part there are very few comments in there that could be called 'sleazy'. Even at that, I received crazy PM's following a pic I posted. Some people are quite frankly, crazy! I remember one PM which said, ''Hey, you look like you wana bite, I can help ;)''. Erm.. Social Skills, anyone? :confused: Obviously that's not the mods fault, some people are just nutters but I do believe that allowing threads to rate/comment on women's appearences only encourages this kind of behaviour.
    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I hate the idea of a chatless gallery Ladies or Lads thread.
    The only thing that does in my opinion is to make it easier for people to perve and rate. If they are that way inclined.
    I think the issue of rating a women simply on how she looks is more inclined to happen when comments are allowed. One guy posts, ''you're hawt, asl xxx etc''.. then ten more guys jump on the bandwagon and the woman's looks become an issue. When people are prevented from doing this, the pic is thanked and left at that. Granted, you'll still get a few PMs but it does prevent the threat of it becoming 'acceptable' to define a woman simply on her appearance. Yeah, it's great to post pics, (In fact, I'd post in TLL thread were it not for such ranking) but when it starts to intimidate other users it's gone too far.

    Having said that, I reckon there are plenty of women who've posted in there who are more than happy to recieve such comments and I don't doubt for a second that there are some who've posted their pic hoping for validation from male posters. That's why I said earlier on in the thread that the issue isn't with the mods. It's tricky because some of the posters in there clearly enjoy it, while others are intimidated by it.
    shellyboo wrote: »
    I imagine that some female posters are, since now it seems to have become a place for men to comment on how hot the female posters are. There's no doubt that's intimidating, how could it not be?
    Exactly, it seems to be more about establishing a 'who's hot/who's not' rank at the moment. Very intimidating. While it's always lovely to recieve charming compliments, when it's not controlled it can damage how a female poster is viewed on boards. Nobody should be rated soley on how they look.
    Thaedydal wrote: »
    that does not mean that we want or a need people being made to feel uncomfortable or feeling they are being ranked or rated on looks or taken less seriously due to how they look.
    Exactly, that's what I was trying to say earlier on. I know some posters took issue with it. Maybe I didn't phrase it correctly but I do think rating/ranking is basically all that thread is at the moment.
    g'em wrote: »
    Leave this with us but keep providing food for thought, we'll try and hammer something out soon :)

    Excellent \o/
    ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    MizzLolly wrote: »
    Perhaps re-read the thread.
    I did, yet i still cant find a single person before you who complained that they felt judged - yet you implied that the original post was about being judged, as were many of the posts in the following pages.

    The only person pushing ranking as being a terrible problem afflicting the ladies of the ladies lounge thread was you.
    I seriously doubt someone is going to be swayed as to how pretty a picture on the thread is by how many sleazy comments it gets(I can just see it now "Oh my god, dubgirl87 got 15 sleazy replies and 10 thanks - SHE MUST BE HAWT?! GET IN!") and then jump in to add their own in case they miss the bandwagon - which is what you seem to be proposing is the case. It's rather ludicrous.

    Seeing other posters flirting/sleazing it up might make someone feel like it's more acceptable to do the same(or PM the subject) - which is what I think has been happening. But where is all this ranking/judging stuff coming from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Tragedy wrote: »
    I did, yet i still cant find a single person before you who complained that they felt judged - yet you implied that the original post was about being judged, as were many of the posts in the following pages.

    The only person pushing ranking as being a terrible problem afflicting the ladies of the ladies lounge thread was you.
    I seriously doubt someone is going to be swayed as to how pretty a picture on the thread is by how many sleazy comments it gets(I can just see it now "Oh my god, dubgirl87 got 15 sleazy replies and 10 thanks - SHE MUST BE HAWT?! GET IN!") and then jump in to add their own in case they miss the bandwagon - which is what you seem to be proposing is the case. It's rather ludicrous.

    Seeing other posters flirting/sleazing it up might make someone feel like it's more acceptable to do the same(or PM the subject) - which is what I think has been happening. But where is all this ranking/judging stuff coming from?


    Tragedy,

    The post was thanked by other users and the same point has been raised serveral times since. On top of the fact that I am actually somebody who's been on the recieving end of such attention, I reckon I'm perfectly entitled to my opinion on the matter. Without my feelings being called ''ludicrous''.

    I don't want to get into any kind of discussion with you to be honest. I feel that you are sniping at people intentionally here (where you suggested another poster was an asshole) and are very clever about how you go about wording such things. Perhaps we can talk about it via PM when you're feeling a little less hormonal. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    MizzLolly wrote: »
    Tragedy,

    The post was thanked by other users and the same point has been raised serveral times since.
    Since being the operative word. You're now changing your argument and resulting to ad hominem attacks and being condescending.
    I havent.

    Post reported and I think it's best I leave this thread for now, said my piece!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Oryx wrote: »
    I got to page 3 and had to stop. It wasnt the sleazy comments. It just reminded me of being in the ladies jacks at a nightclub.

    Haha how did I miss that? That's exactly what it's like! :D
    Tragedy wrote: »
    Since being the operative word. You're now changing your argument and resulting to ad hominem attacks and being condescending.
    I havent.

    I didn't change my argument. In fact, I wasn't arguing at all. I said how I felt. Which I'm perfectly entitled to do, no? You're the one making an issue out of people expressing their opinions.
    Tragedy wrote: »
    Post reported and I think it's best I leave this thread for now, said my piece!
    Fair play. If implying another poster is an ''asshole'' is deemed to be okay then I'm sure my reluctance to argue on thread with you will be just fine. :)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,397 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Right, cut it out the pair of you or I will be forced to do something you'll regret. It's clear that there's more going on between you two than just what's on this thread, and if you have any petty little squabbles going on elsewhere I'd appreciate if you don't bring them here. The next one of you who reports a post by the other, or who makes a dig at the other on this thread, will find themselves on the receiving end of a week's ban.

    As for the topic itself, as previously mentioned by g'em, the mods are currently looking into a few possible solutions. We're waiting for everyone to throw in their 2 cents and we'll come back to you guys in the next day or two. That said, please feel free to continue adding your (constructive) criticism or any suggestions you may have that you think would benefit the forum. No doubt there's a really obvious solution we've not even considered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    I think the threads started out a nice way and I'm guessing the original idea behind it was to put a face to the name. It was fine for a while but I've definitely noticed in the Ladies thread there is a couple of (male) posters who come across as rather desperate and pathetic. Normally I'd be of the opinion that if you put up a pic freely for others to look at then take whatever comes your way. However as others have pointed this forum was set up for women and they should not have to feel that they're being judged. I've no doubt a good few are perfectly happy being judged but there'll be a few who aren't.

    I say let the threads continue but if something crass or sleazy is said report it straight away and delete it. Warn the person who made the comment that it's not within the tone of the forum and if they do it again ban for a few days. People will soon realise what's acceptable and what's not. As I've said there's certain posters and the stuff they say is cringe worthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,638 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    i kind of want to add that personally i think cheesy is fine its sleazy thats a problem

    im pretty sure that i didnt post any innapropriate responces to pictures in either thread but if i did then my bad if its not me any of you are refering to then great

    is the general consensus among the posters who are complaining that the majority of the responces are (a)innapropriate (b)fine (c) just boring at this stage(my opinion) or (c) its just a minority that are innapropriate?

    either way

    my suggestions are;

    threads remain open

    long periods of conversation are removed no matter what they are about there are pages and pages of posts with no pics and its just stupid

    people coming in and posting 'i dont post in tll but i jsut want to say your HAWT' or even 'i dont post here but look here is my picture' should be completely discouraged if not punished

    it pains me to say it as a guy as i do genuinely think that 95% of the comments are simply meant to be compliments but i do understand why some people (particularly the women) would be intimidated by how it has become, as not everyone is self assured enough to post a pic and then NOT have ten people say their hawt when everyone else on the thread seems to have been paid that compliment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    I'm not intimidated or offended etc. by any comments directed at me in the thread. I haven't seen any directed at other girls that were anything other than a weensy bit sleazy (trolling excepted), but then that's subjective. For me it's no more intimidating than having some leach sidle up to me in a nightclub, only with tLL there is the report post function.

    Have there been complaints by the people on the receiving end of the unwanted attention? I didn't get the impression from the first post that was the vein of this thread. A lot of people have said they find the sleazing uncomfortable and are sure the women who are the subjects of it 'must' feel the same but no concrete comments from women who have been on the receiving end of the comments.

    I almost find it sad and a tad insulting that people think that women don't have enough about them to complain if they feel they are genuinely being harassed (and the report post function is anonymous with the exception of mods being able to see it) and that we need to be molly coddled or whatnot by restricting the posting functionality in the pics thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    im pretty sure that i didnt post any innapropriate responces to pictures in either thread but if i did then my bad if its not me any of you are refering to then great

    I wasn't referencing yourself rather a few people who seem to have come on board the last couple of weeks.
    ellscurr wrote: »
    I haven't seen any directed at other girls that were anything other than a weensy bit sleazy (trolling excepted), but then that's subjective. For me it's no more intimidating than having some leach sidle up to me in a nightclub, only with tLL there is the report post function.

    Have there been complaints by the people on the receiving end of the unwanted attention? I didn't get the impression from the first post that was the vein of this thread. A lot of people have said they find the sleazing uncomfortable and are sure the women who are the subjects of it 'must' feel the same but no concrete comments from women who have been on the receiving end of the comments.

    I almost find it sad and a tad insulting that people think that women don't have enough about them to complain if they feel they are genuinely being harassed (and the report post function is anonymous with the exception of mods being able to see it) and that we need to be molly coddled or whatnot by restricting the posting functionality in the pics thread.

    I don't think it's restricting it to be honest, the majority of it is legit but when you get a few people saying "we want your bebo", "need more pics of random poster", "x and y is top of my list", to me it just gives off a pervy tone. Other than stuff like that I think the rest of it is grand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭pow wow


    I wasn't referencing yourself rather a few people who seem to have come on board the last couple of weeks.



    I don't think it's restricting it to be honest, the majority of it is legit but when you get a few people saying "we want your bebo", "need more pics of random poster", "x and y is top of my list", to me it just gives off a pervy tone. Other than stuff like that I think the rest of it is grand.

    I think in the grand scheme of things it's relatively harmless. I find it odd you and me are having this discussion though! It is restricting it though if you ban the commenting totally. The scheme there is now is a happy medium imo.


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