The English Times insists its called Bombay

BenjAii

I've noticed in coverage on the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, the English Times ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk ) insists in calling the city Bombay. Even going so far as to helpfully let us know in some articles, it's "also known as Mumbai". This despite the fact the official name change was 12 years ago, and you never see the city referred to as Bombay anymore, except when speaking about it historically.

Weird; someone obviously hasn't got over the loss of Empire yet. The cheeky native upstarts, thinking they can go changing names if they want ......

Heisenberg.

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Professey Chin

Can we start changing names of their cities?

BenjAii

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Can we start changing names of their cities?

We could rename both our islands "The Irish Islands" and we could talk about going to "the mainland" when returning home from shopping trips to London.

Stercus Accidit

Stinktown/London swap ftw

ScumLord

Oh! So that's what happened Bombay. And here's me flying into Baljek the hole time.

Heisenberg.

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Rowley Birkin QC

London = Stephen, as was the style of the time.

Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now where were we?

Professey Chin

The Scientist wrote: »

CorkYork has a nice ring to it...

From this day forward, Dover shall be renamed as Ben Dover in his honour

Robbo

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Can we start changing names of their cities?

Simply refer to their monarch by her proper married name of Betty Glucksberg.

Rowley Birkin QC

Robbo wrote: »

Simply refer to their monarch by her proper married name of Betty Glucksberg.

or Lizardface Astrobitch as she likes to be called in private.

Nodin

BenjAii wrote: »

I've noticed in coverage on the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, (....), thinking they can go changing names if they want ......

It is an integral part of understanding the business of Empire that you realise that brown, black, yellow or Irish people have no names for anything, until one arrives in ones gunboat and does the naming for them. The natives, distressed at the arrival of proper names for things, frequently become agitated, and then one must shoot a few, string up others etc, until their bestial nature recedes.

hot2def

BenjAii wrote: »

Weird; someone obviously hasn't got over the loss of Empire yet. The cheeky native upstarts, thinking they can go changing names if they want ......

BenjAii wrote: »

We could rename both our islands "The Irish Islands" and we could talk about going to "the mainland" when returning home from shopping trips to London.

you're right, *someone* hasn't gotten over the empire yet...

asdasd

Hmm, maybe they think the English for Mumbai is Bombay, which is incorrect. Bombay is from some Portugese root, and Mumbai is indian. So Mumbai is correct.

That said, we tend to use the English names of cities in English rather than the name in the native language. So Rome, not Roma etc. That might be their worldview.

Roadend

So is Bombay mix now Mumbai mix?

Smart Bug

That's because they're imperialist bastards.

asdasd

And yet we also get mad when they call us Eire.

R0ot

The Scientist wrote: »

They also call Derry Londonderry for some reason.. Those crazy Ingerlish..

Don't start this one off... please

biko

Others use Bombay too

Le Monde = Bombay
Der Spiegel = Mumbai
CNN = Mumbai
Reuters = Mumbai
SVD = Bombay
El Pais = Bombay

Maybe some are more sensitive to Bombay than others

Terry

Smart Bug wrote: »

That's because they're imperialist bastards.

Jesus. It's just one after the other today.
Banned.

shellyboo

biko wrote: »

Others use Bombay too

Le Monde = Bombay
Der Spiegel = Mumbai
CNN = Mumbai
Reuters = Mumbai
SVD = Bombay
El Pais = Bombay

Yep. Lots of papers have these little editorial quirks, it's just a style guide thing.

oeb

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Can we start changing names of their cities?

This is a great idea.

I suggest that Manchester becomes 'New Mayfield'

stovelid

Mumbai Mix just doesn't have the same ring to it.


edit: sorry Roadend.

getz

question who first called ireland --ireland ? and for my next question-

seamus

I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.

Burning Eclipse

asdasd wrote: »

Hmm, maybe they think the English for Mumbai is Bombay, which is incorrect. Bombay is from some Portugese root, and Mumbai is indian. So Mumbai is correct.

That said, we tend to use the English names of cities in English rather than the name in the native language. So Rome, not Roma etc. That might be their worldview.

Glad somebody posted this.

I was gonna go with Torina instead of Turin, or Venezia instead of Venice. Is this Bombay thing really that big a deal!?

getz

seamus wrote: »

I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.

yes we british think in a british accent

stovelid

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

Glad somebody posted this.

I was gonna go with Torina instead of Turin, or Venezia instead of Venice. Is this Bombay thing really that big a deal!?

People get the horn more for native names when the country has a colonial history. Otherwise, nada. I'm assuming everyone here is going to henceforth start referring to our country as Eire, and not Ireland. And Deutschland instead of Germany; Espana instead of Spain, etc.

seamus

yes we british think in a british accent

Of course you do. I think in an Irish accent. Your inner monologue should use your own voice.

Mine does anyway.

ejmaztec

seamus wrote: »

I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.

Is it now called Soreknob? :pac:

Professey Chin

seamus wrote: »

Of course you do. I think in an Irish accent. Your inner monologue should use your own voice.

Mine does anyway.

Mine speaks like william shatner

ScumLord

stovelid wrote: »

People get the horn more for native names when the country has a colonial history. Otherwise, nada. I'm assuming everyone here is going to henceforth start referring to our country as Eire, and not Ireland. And Deutschland instead of Germany; Espana instead of Spain, etc.

I do. I think they sound funnier.

How come Deutschland uses land in it's name, is there no German Deutsch for land?

stovelid

ScumLord wrote: »

I do. I think they sound funnier.

I prefer Reich for chuckles from my German mates.

Professey Chin

ScumLord wrote: »

I do. I think they sound funnier.

How come Deutschland uses land in it's name, is there no German Deutsch for land?

Cause theyre just that fupping crazy:pac::eek:

BenjAii

stovelid wrote: »

People get the horn more for native names when the country has a colonial history. Otherwise, nada. I'm assuming everyone here is going to henceforth start referring to our country as Eire, and not Ireland. And Deutschland instead of Germany; Espana instead of Spain, etc.

Not quite the same thing. When India officially changed the name to Mumbai, they did this because they wanted to break with what they saw as a non-Hindi name associated with colonialism.

Thus to make a point of using Bombay on The Times part is obviously some sort of "stance" on this issue. It's interesting that all of the other English papers, inclusing The Telegraph & Mail, which perhaps you might think less likely, are using Mumbai.

ejmaztec

I think that I should point out to all of the teachers here that Westminster is not Westminister. Will you please stop putting in that extra "i". Thank you.:p

BlaasForRafa

watching the coverage on sky news yesterday some of the indian correspondants from local tv news channels referred to it as bombay as well.

mikemac

Sure some people still say Dingle but it's Dingle/Daingean Uí Chúis.

Get with the times people

MOH

seamus wrote: »

The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

I didn't realise the protests had got that bad :eek:

Crash

Seamus wrote:

The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

Thats because i'm really too lazy to answer the question "where in Thailand were you?" with "....Krung Thep Maha Nakhon."

Fratton Fred

well judging by the thread about silly Irish place names, when we did leave it to you, you completely fecked the whole thing up.

Anyway, I'm off to my home in Kingstown, county Black Pool.

asdasd

Krung Thep Maha Nakhon.

If the furrenors want us to change the way we prounce their cities in English they need shorter, more sensible names.

Maybe we should have a poll on what want to call bangkok. then we can inform the Thai authorities.

oztots

I climbed ayres rock once. Thinking of going back to give Uluru a go.

But seriously, i have a better idea when somebody says bombay or bangkok, because thats what they've been called for ages.

And the whole dingle thing is silly. If it means that much to you by all means, stop using the english given names of your counties.

If you did i'd be screwed cos im not really irish.

Caoimhín

I firmly believe in East Germany.

Crash

asdasd wrote: »

If the furrenors want us to change the way we prounce their cities in English they need shorter, more sensible names.

Maybe we should have a poll on what want to call bangkok. then we can inform the Thai authorities.

I think its shortened to Krung Thep most of the time.

asdasd

Black Pool.

And thats dubly confusing, isnt it. BlackPool (Dubh Linn) is transliterated back into english as Dublin, and the translation back into Irish is Baile Ath Cliath, Town of the Hurdled Ford. So which is it?

No wonder The Times of England is confused.

asdasd

Krung Thep

It just doesnt roll of the tongue like bangkok.

Fratton Fred

asdasd wrote: »

If the furrenors want us to change the way we prounce their cities in English they need shorter, more sensible names.

Maybe we should have a poll on what want to call bangkok. then we can inform the Thai authorities.

i think Bang yer kok is far more descriptive of the plce TBH.

Terry

Rupert Murdoch.
Is anyone really surprised at anything this loon does?

Fratton Fred

asdasd wrote: »

the translation back into Irish is Baile Ath Cliath, Town of the Hurdled Ford. So which is it?

I would have thought a Mondeo rather than a focus.

oztots

asdasd wrote: »

And thats dubly confusing, isnt it. BlackPool (Dubh Linn) is transliterated back into english as Dublin, and the translation back into Irish is Baile Ath Cliath, Town of the Hurdled Ford. So which is it?

No wonder The Times of England is confused.

Could it be that irish is a makey uppy language that they copied from LOTR?