Do Green Flashing Lights Do the Same as Blue?

andrewh5

metman wrote: »

I take it your training was as a civilian doing an IAM course? If this is the case then I suggest you wind your neck in. IAM courses fall far below class 1 training, despite your trainer being 'ex-class 1'. As someone who is a serving officer doing response work (with initial pursuit liability) I can attest that your 'ex-class 1 instructor' is just that, ex. What might surprise you is that the Garda advanced driver training is the same as UK Police driver training.

Any numpty that suggests Gardai wouldn't pass UK driving assessments is just that, a numpty.

No it wasn't. He was a serving class 1 driver.
Well, the gardai I have seen driving around are bloody atrocious drivers so either they haven't done advanced training the failed it. Given that it is highly rare to see a Traffic Corps member one has to judge ordinary gardai.

andrewh5

donvito99 wrote: »

Ever been to Turkey, Spain, Italy, Egypt, France, Portugal, Morocco, Cork... (Dis regard the last one)

Germany (East and West as was), France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, Cyprus (north & south) USA.

I stand by what I have said. The general standard of driving here is appalling:

• Taking ages to pull off from lights when at the front of the queue.
• Not signalling at roundabouts.
• Going all the way around roundabouts in the left hand lane.
• Accelerating away from a standstill at less than walking pace.
• Failure to indicate generally.
• Using front fog lights all the time (totally illegal).

There are more such as no lane discipline on dual carriageways & motorways and failure to make progress on the above.

Eru

andrewh5 wrote: »

Germany (East and West as was), France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, Cyprus (north & south) USA.

I stand by what I have said. The general standard of driving here is appalling:

• Taking ages to pull off from lights when at the front of the queue.
• Not signalling at roundabouts.
• Going all the way around roundabouts in the left hand lane.
• Accelerating away from a standstill at less than walking pace.
• Failure to indicate generally.
• Using front fog lights all the time (totally illegal).

There are more such as no lane discipline on dual carriageways & motorways and failure to make progress on the above.

Yep only the Irish do these things all right. Never in my life have I driven abroad and had someone fail to indicate or use a roundabout properly. Mind you when im in Spain my in laws hand me the keys so they dont share your view. Also in Italy, they dont understand parking, lights and ignore the police. Cyprus? I believe they were ranked one of the worst in the world.

However in relation to taking off, thats annoying but people drive vehicles will less power than you possible and not taking off like a jet fighter is not bad driving, its careful and theres a lot of people driving in Ireland that arent actually on Irish licenses.

You also need to stop refering to your instructor. Its an incredible stupid comment. My kickboxing teacher is a 4 time world champion, but guess what? I aint getting close to that.

Evidently your perfect.

deadwood

andrewh5 wrote: »

Germany (East and West as was), France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, Cyprus (north & south) USA.


I stand by what I have said. The general standard of driving here is appalling:

• Taking ages to pull off from lights when at the front of the queue.
• Not signalling at roundabouts.
• Going all the way around roundabouts in the left hand lane.
• Accelerating away from a standstill at less than walking pace.
• Failure to indicate generally.
• Using front fog lights all the time (totally illegal).

There are more such as no lane discipline on dual carriageways & motorways and failure to make progress on the above.

Isn't there a nice shiny Motors Forum where these startling new observations would be discussed in objective and original ways?

donvito99

I was in a small town called Cesme in Turkey once and they do not obey traffic lights, indicate, use headlights, drive on he correct side, have up to 9 people in a five seater, crazy stuff.

2001 / 2002 / 2003 / 2004 / 2005 / 2006 / 2007 / 2008 (so far)

411 / 376 / 335 / 374 / 396 / 368 / 338 / 261.

The number of people being killed is actually falling due to the gardai being given greater powers/ equipment/ facilities etc and driver behaviour as regard to speeding and dui.

deadwood

donvito99 wrote: »

The number of people being killed is actually falling due to the gardai being given greater powers/ equipment/ facilities etc and driver behaviour as regard to speeding and dui.

The only reason it has worked is because of revenue collecting, shooting fish in a barrell, hiding behind hedges, unmarked gatsos, incorrect road design and speed limits, not going after real criminals and persecuting the working man.

Well if those are the lengths to which the Gardai are willing to go to save lives, I don't know what this country has come to.

djtechnics1210

andrewh5 wrote: »

Germany (East and West as was), France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, Cyprus (north & south) USA.

I stand by what I have said. The general standard of driving here is appalling:

• Taking ages to pull off from lights when at the front of the queue.
• Not signalling at roundabouts.
• Going all the way around roundabouts in the left hand lane.
• Accelerating away from a standstill at less than walking pace.
• Failure to indicate generally.
• Using front fog lights all the time (totally illegal).

There are more such as no lane discipline on dual carriageways & motorways and failure to make progress on the above.

What in the name of good g*d does this have to do with "Flashing green lights doing the same as blue lights".

And how does that above list have anything to do with Garda drivers. I have never seen a Garda driver do any of the above stuff and i spend every working day in a patrol car or jeep.

Tango Alpha 51

donvito99 wrote: »

Would they not use them as LIVING patient transport aswell?

Nope. The private "ambulance" in question is only used to carry dead people. They are not part of the statutory emergency ambulance service (HSE or DFB). I read somewhere on this board that it is attached to the coroners office or something like that. All statutory emergency ambulances are blue lights.

Tango Alpha 51

andrewh5 wrote: »

Germany (East and West as was), France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, Cyprus (north & south) USA.

I stand by what I have said. The general standard of driving here is appalling:

• Taking ages to pull off from lights when at the front of the queue.
• Not signalling at roundabouts.
• Going all the way around roundabouts in the left hand lane.
• Accelerating away from a standstill at less than walking pace.
• Failure to indicate generally.
• Using front fog lights all the time (totally illegal).

There are more such as no lane discipline on dual carriageways & motorways and failure to make progress on the above.

Absolutely no relevance to the original topic!!!

Turner

andrewh5 wrote: »

As someone who was taught to drive by a UK Class 1 Police driver I can safely say that the majority of gardai wouldn't pass the UK class 1 test. I have seen atrocious driving standards displayed by garda drivers.

Pasted from the other locked thread but details of what training the gardai receive.

Just to clear a few things up about the standard of driver training in the gardai. The gardai are trained in many styles of driving listed below.

Standard car and motorcycle course
Advanced car and motorcycle course

Both of which are up to the standard of the UK police drivers and is considered to be the best principles of roadcraft and standard of police driver training in the world.

The gardai also comlete
Jeep, personnell carrier (paddywagon) and HGV courses.
Tactical car course (eru and rsu)
Escort car and motorcycle course

However alot are actually driving on Chief Superintendents permission they are not allowed engage in putsuits. Chief Supt's permission only relates to lower powered patrol cars, no motorcycles/vans/jeeps.

The gardai are not trained in putsuits (eg boxing in cars or ramming cars), although it is not recommended individual gardai can make the decision to do this but be it on their own head. If anything goes wrong they are liable to prosecution. Management will not back you but it may be required to save a life.

G_R

deadwood wrote: »

The only reason it has worked is because of revenue collecting, shooting fish in a barrell, hiding behind hedges, unmarked gatsos, incorrect road design and speed limits, not going after real criminals and persecuting the working man.

Well if those are the lengths to which the Gardai are willing to go to save lives, I don't know what this country has come to.

well whatever they're doing they are dramatically reducing road deaths...i say well done and keep up the good work

TheNog

I think this thread has gone way off topic. Can we please get it back on track or else start a new thread to complain about driving courses or lack of.