Spinning vs Mashing

Raam · 20-11-2008 4:34pm

niceonetom wrote: »

dammit...

It improves style though?

blorg · 20-11-2008 4:37pm

My personal experience is that since I got a fixie (1) my average cadence has gone up; (2) peak cadence has gone up; (3) I am also able to power up hills in a difficult gear; (4) I find it easier to "pedal in circles" through the entire pedal stroke.

niceonetom · 20-11-2008 4:39pm

blorg wrote: »

My personal experience is that since I got a fixie (1) my average cadence has gone up; (2) I am also able to power up hills in a difficult gear; (3) I find it easier to "pedal in circles" through the entire pedal stroke.

good enough for me. blorg > Josh Horowitz.

it does improve style too. not as much as my silk cravat tough.

rogerb · 20-11-2008 4:51pm

el tonto wrote: »

I found this piece pretty interesting

el tonto wrote: »

Here it is.

Both very interesting articles, thank you. I particularly like the term "ventilatory distress". Reading debunking articles about training is so satisfying. I feel better already just thinking about all the effort I'm not wasting and the ventilatory distress I'm avoiding.

Lumen · 20-11-2008 5:07pm

el tonto wrote: »

Here it is.

So are PowerCranks on a singlespeed the ultimate training tool?

Or just a really unpleasant and confusing way to spend the winter?

MCOS · 20-11-2008 5:08pm

Raam wrote: »

Who ate all the pies, who ate all the pies?

I did! 5'11' 83kg

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:12pm

MCOS wrote: »

I did! 5'11' 83kg

I think there was a guy on here who was 6' and weighed less than 60kg. A Cork or Kerry chap. I can't remember his name though.

Chips Lovell · 20-11-2008 5:13pm

Lumen wrote: »

So are PowerCranks on a singlespeed the ultimate training tool?

Or just a really unpleasant and confusing way to spend the winter?

Ah, Pez are always pushing the PowerCranks. I've yet to be convinced though.

Chips Lovell · 20-11-2008 5:14pm

6ft3 and 100kg. I'm the anti-Raam. I'll eat your young if you're not careful.

Vélo · 20-11-2008 5:18pm

I'm 5' 7" and weigh just under 9 stone and MCOS ate all my pies!!!

'68 Fastback · 20-11-2008 5:19pm

el tonto wrote: »

6ft3 and 100kg. I'm the anti-Raam. I'll eat your young if you're not careful.

Now my work mates are looking at me funny for laughing at the computer.

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:20pm

If the wimmin could see us now, all talking about our weight.

Vélo · 20-11-2008 5:21pm

So what's best for shaving your legs?:eek:

'68 Fastback · 20-11-2008 5:23pm

Raam wrote: »

If the wimmin could see us now, all talking about our weight.

Very important topic when some look pedal axles are only for sub 95k riders;)

Chips Lovell · 20-11-2008 5:29pm

Obsessing about your weight, sharing leg shaving tips and fretting about matching your bar tape to your saddle. What's more manly than that?

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:30pm

el tonto wrote: »

Obsessing about your weight, sharing leg shaving tips and fretting about matching your bar tape to your saddle. What's more manly than that?

On that note, is it acceptable to have black bar tape with a white saddle?

Chips Lovell · 20-11-2008 5:31pm

Raam wrote: »

On that note, is it acceptable to have black bar tape with a white saddle?

Of course it is.... in Club Fred.

Vélo · 20-11-2008 5:31pm

Just tell everyone you're a Newcastle United fan.

MCOS · 20-11-2008 5:33pm

Lumen wrote: »

Because you should train like you race, according to the article posted earlier in the thread.

Really? All year round? Do you not believe that winter can be used to work on the reasons you don't win races/places? If you work on increased wattage at low cadence would this not translate into higher wattage for your preferred race cadence? If you can hold a certain wattage at 95rpm for 2 hours, sustained training would mean you good could hold that wattage more efficiently. What would increased strength give you for the same session?

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:36pm

el tonto wrote: »

Of course it is.... in Club Fred.

Fiddlesticks.

'68 Fastback · 20-11-2008 5:38pm

Now Brooks do bar tape too...mmmmm brown.

DirkVoodoo · 20-11-2008 5:41pm

It seems to be some subconscious rule among cyclists (2 in particular here) that any thread about cycling, in this case pedaling technique, can be lowered to the level of whether or not to shave legs, have matching bar tape/saddle colour, etc.

*sigh*

Once again, Eurocyclist rules!

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:42pm

'68 wrote:

Now Brooks do bar tape too...mmmmm brown.

I saw this yesterday...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Cinelli_Imperial_Leather_Bar_Tape/5360039889/

Get some.

Raam · 20-11-2008 5:43pm

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

It seems to be some subconscious rule among cyclists (2 in particular here) that any thread about cycling, in this case pedaling technique, can be lowered to the level of whether or not to shave legs, have matching bar tape/saddle colour, etc.

Finally, someone else gets it!

blorg · 20-11-2008 5:44pm

'68 wrote:

Now Brooks do bar tape too...mmmmm brown.

There are meant to be a fair few drawbacks to that, enough to keep me from using it (speaking as an owner of four Brooks saddles.) One of the key ones is that it appears to have a tendency to go white in the places your hands touch it. I am not sure leather is an optimal material for bar tape TBH. I also do see bar tape as a bit of a consumable, and you wouldn't want that at the price Brooks are charging. Sorry, what was the topic again?

'68 Fastback · 20-11-2008 5:49pm

Raam wrote: »

I saw this yesterday...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Cinelli_Imperial_Leather_Bar_Tape/5360039889/

Get some.

Damn it! Wiggle got blocked on my work computer.

I prefer to spin on the climbs but often run out of gears and end up mashing(just to get back to topic:)).

Chips Lovell · 20-11-2008 5:50pm

blorg wrote: »

There are meant to be a fair few drawbacks to that, enough to keep me from using it (speaking as an owner of four Brooks saddles.) One of the key ones is that it appears to have a tendency to go white in the places your hands touch it. I am not sure leather is an optimal material for bar tape TBH. I also do see bar tape as a bit of a consumable, and you wouldn't want that at the price Brooks are charging. Sorry, what was the topic again?

Yes, I don't think leather bar tape is a good idea in Irish weather.

Blorg, I'm a big fan of Cinelli Cork tape and I noticed recently one of the colours it comes in is 'natural', which is basically brown. Might be the answer for a Brooks owner.

MCOS · 20-11-2008 6:00pm

'68 wrote:

Damn it! Wiggle got blocked on my work computer.

I prefer to spin on the climbs but often run out of gears and end up mashing(just to get back to topic:)).

Thanks for steering back to topic

Wiggle blocked... bummer dude

I had to order a bunch of stuff off them this week after a learning I got last weekend. Chainreaction also wont answer emails or calls. Ordered a pair of Oakleys and got no confirmation:mad:

Lumen · 20-11-2008 6:03pm

MCOS wrote: »

Really? All year round? Do you not believe that winter can be used to work on the reasons you don't win races/places? If you work on increased wattage at low cadence would this not translate into higher wattage for your preferred race cadence? If you can hold a certain wattage at 95rpm for 2 hours, sustained training would mean you good could hold that wattage more efficiently. What would increased strength give you for the same session?

I really don't have strong opinions about this, I was just referring to the article under discussion.

However...

Whilst it's possible to construct endless theories about training methodology, to me it seems logical that the starting point for any physical conditioning should be "train for the thing you're training for" and any deviations from that should be backed up by solid evidence.

Diarmuid · 20-11-2008 6:04pm

'68 wrote:

Damn it! Wiggle got blocked on my work computer.

€76 bar tape :eek:

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