Were you barred form your pub?

wingsof daun

I used to frequent this pub, and spent an awful lot of money there. After being away for 6 months, I returned again to be told, "don;t you remember I barred you?!!". I thought it was a joke and laughed, but he shook his head and I was getting no drink. He then escorted me off the premises. I was never barred at all though! I asked what month did you bar me and he could not even answer, it was a lie!

It's like some sort of story from the Twilight Zone!

Peared

It's a glitch in the matrix.

Call Keanu, he'll sort ya out.

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wingsof daun wrote: »

I used to frequent this pub, and spent an awful lot of money there. After being away for 6 months, I returned again to be told, "don;t you remember I barred you?!!". I thought it was a joke and laughed, but he shook his head and I was getting no drink. He then escorted me off the premises. I was never barred at all though! I asked what month did you bar me and he could not even answer, it was a lie!

Are you sure you didn't black-out when you "spent an awful lot of money there" one night and did something awful you can't remember?

Maybe you have a doppelganger going around causing trouble.....like I said: Twilight Zone.

ninty9er

Jaxxon Disgusting Arsonist wrote: »

Are you sure you didn't black-out when you "spent an awful lot of money there" one night and did something awful you can't remember?

^^This^^

Kiera

You was barred from Tomangoes by a new kid of a bouncer because he put his hands on me and pushed me at closing time. I was 17 drunk and roared abuse at him for putting his hands on me. Fecker wouldnt let me in for about 6 months. Grew out of my Tomangoes buzz at about 19 thank fuck.

Random

The best thing you can do in this situation is to go back in screaming and shouting. Explain very clearly and very loudly exactly what you think of the barman and his premesis.

Then refuse to leave until the boys in blue arrive.

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Kiera wrote: »

Grew out of my Tomangoes buzz at about 19 thank fuck.

:eek: But it's where the gang goes!

Have you considered some sort of disguise? Like a false moustache or something?

wingsof daun

I never got rotten drunk there! I'm a slow-moderate drinker. hmmmm the boys in blue would take his word over mine....has he the right to do this?

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wingsof daun wrote: »

I never got rotten drunk there! I'm a slow-moderate drinker. hmmmm the boys in blue would take his word over mine....has he the right to do this?

I believe so, as far as I know they can refuse the right of admission to anyone they like. I'm obviously no expert though, never having been barred from a pub. :cool:

connundrum

I was told I was barred from the local hotel/nite club years ago. The guy who initially told me I was barred let me skip the queue into the club 6 days later.

Gold fish memory can come in handy with some people.

themadchef

So you've never been back since that night...... 6 months...im thinking you thrashed the place for them to still remember you.

Either that or it's a very very quiet pub.

Pubs lurve big spendaz like yerself., generally hate muppets though. Were you one?..seriously?


Regressive hypnosis ftw... find your answers.

Biggins

wingsof daun wrote: »

I never got rotten drunk there! I'm a slow-moderate drinker. hmmmm the boys in blue would take his word over mine....has he the right to do this?

Yes, if he can show that you, on a previous visit were a nuisance and or causing such a disturbance that you are possible still a risk to the present public/staff.
You could ask him to prove this but by the time you even get the words out to ask, you will probably be thrown out anyway by the bouncers and ignored!

Thats the sad truth.

AckwelFoley

Ive never been barred from a pub.

ElBarco

I arrived in my local one day and was told that I had been barred because of "video evidence". Apparently the manager was very concerned about my behaviour the previous weekend.

I was shocked for two reasons. One I'm not usually a bad drunk and two I was in Spain the previous weekend. The bar man was quite resolved not to allow me drink - I explained my reasoning for about 10 minutes and he wasn't having any of it. The manager then arrived, took one look at me and said I wasn't the one he'd been talking about.

Still confused as to why the bar man was convinced it was me...

4zn76tysfajdxp

snyper wrote: »

Ive never been barred from a pub.

Creches on the other hand...

Biggins

ElBarco wrote: »

I arrived in my local one day and was told that I had been barred because of "video evidence". Apparently the manager was very concerned about my behaviour the previous weekend.

I was shocked for two reasons. One I'm not usually a bad drunk and two I was in Spain the previous weekend. The bar man was quite resolved not to allow me drink - I explained my reasoning for about 10 minutes and he wasn't having any of it. The manager then arrived, took one look at me and said I wasn't the one he'd been talking about.

Still confused as to why the bar man was convinced it was me...

Thats easy, the barman was a lazy idiot, too quick in judgement, not checking the actual evidence enough. Fair play to the manager.

Kold

Jaxxon Disgusting Arsonist wrote: »

Are you sure you didn't black-out when you "spent an awful lot of money there" one night and did something awful you can't remember?

Gary, the landlord's dog.

Kold

Kiera wrote: »

You was barred from Tomangoes by a new kid of a bouncer because he put his hands on me and pushed me at closing time. I was 17 drunk and roared abuse at him for putting his hands on me. Fecker wouldnt let me in for about 6 months. Grew out of my Tomangoes buzz at about 19 thank fuck.

Were you lead there by some dodgy men who were touting you as a whore and then threatened a very drunk boardsie for dancing with you... And were you getting younger as the night progressed?

Nothingcompares

being barred from a pub is humiliating.

Vain

Im going to put 1 and 3 together and blame alcohol, I could be wrong tho im not very good at maths:pac:

Agamemnon

wingsof daun wrote: »

I used to frequent this pub, and spent an awful lot of money there. After being away for 6 months, I returned again to be told, "don;t you remember I barred you?!!". I thought it was a joke and laughed, but he shook his head and I was getting no drink. He then escorted me off the premises. I was never barred at all though! I asked what month did you bar me and he could not even answer, it was a lie!

Have you PM'd the mod in question? Links?

I was only ever barred from one pub and it was because of something I wrote on the interweb. \o/

Terry

snyper wrote: »

Ive never been barred from a pub.

You should try it some time.

Between the ages of 18 and 21 I was barred from every pub in this town.
Lots of young, drunk chicks down by the river.

Degsy

I've been barred from hundreds of pubs.When i was in my 20's there were about two pubs in dublin that would serve me.We usually got barred for bringing our own drink in,smoking spliffs or being ridiculously pissed but once i got barred from a night club for fingering a bird on the dancefloor.

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Degsy wrote: »

I've been barred from hundreds of pubs.When i was in my 20's there were about two pubs in dublin that would serve me.We usually got barred for bringing our own drink in,smoking spliffs or being ridiculously pissed but once i got barred from a night club for fingering a bird on the dancefloor.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you not anti-drugs Degsy?

Degsy

Jaxxon Disgusting Arsonist wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you not anti-drugs Degsy?

Nope.I'm anti cocaine and anti people smoking spliffs on the bus but thats about it.

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Degsy wrote: »

Nope.I'm anti cocaine and anti people smoking spliffs on the bus but thats about it.

Ah, right. Pardon me.

The Master

Terry wrote: »

Lots of young, drunk chicks down by the river.

What river are you talking about?
it's a bit urgent

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The Master wrote: »

What river are you talking about?
it's a bit urgent

Liffey I would imagine. Unless he's reffering to another "this town" in his post.

galwayrush

My brother got barred from The Hole In The Wall pub in Galway for pissing into the hand basin in the ladies loo.:D

Shacklebolt

galwayrush wrote: »

My brother got barred from The Hole In The Wall pub in Galway for pissing into the hand basin in the ladies loo.:D

Thats the only place that serves me! I'll keep a mental note to avoid the ladies hand basin.

tony1kenobi

wingsof daun wrote: »

....has he the right to do this?

Not if you live on a halting site baws....Where were you for those six months? Just here and there? Ring the Star newspaper with your story........

Four-Too

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Not if you live on a halting site baws....Where were you for those six months? Just here and there? Ring the Star newspaper with your story........

You awful serious?? It just might get on the Star ha

Mossy Monk

I have been banned from the premises 3 times for being a drunken teenage twat but then I ask why were they serving me. We all get on great now though.

smellslikeshoes

Biggins wrote: »

Yes, if he can show that you, on a previous visit were a nuisance and or causing such a disturbance that you are possible still a risk to the present public/staff.
You could ask him to prove this but by the time you even get the words out to ask, you will probably be thrown out anyway by the bouncers and ignored!

Thats the sad truth.

Proving that you were a nuisance or not is irrelevant since premises have the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason.

Honestly you haven't a leg to stand on, find yourself a new watering hole and move on.

Degsy

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Proving that you were a nuisance or not is irrelevant since premises have the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason.

Honestly you haven't a leg to stand on, find yourself a new watering hole and move on.

Or he could exact some revenge on the place.
Honestly,everybody wants to walk away after they've been slighted,nobody wants revenge anymore.

ZzubZzub

Only been barred from one night club - and thats for dancing on a table which then fell over leading to a dislocated knee. Ahh, what a night.

Biggins

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Proving that you were a nuisance or not is irrelevant since premises have the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason.

Its a bit of a grey area. Owners gave right to refuse anyone but in doing so, now they must justify their actions by saying why they are refusing entry.
If they don't, they find themselves open to the discrimination laws that were revised just in the last year or two. The traveling community have become aware of this discrimination law and have previously used it to aid their cases of rejection.

Interesting reading in in the following link from the Irish Council of Civil Liberties: http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A1f4cfbIXCFJSBQBohxLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1Zjh2cTJoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOARjb2xvA2lyZAR2dGlkA1VLMDUzNl81MzY-/SIG=13g6fmbd2/EXP=1227009608/**http%3a//iccl.ie/DB_Data/publications/ICCLSubmissionreportoftheCommissiononLiquorLicensing.pdf

One eye opening quote:

6. Another example of a vulnerable group is older persons refused entry on the basis of
age. There already have been a number of cases where older persons have been
refused entry to pubs and nightclubs on the basis of their age. Increased discretion, and
in particular any proposal to allow publicans' and nightclub owners to refuse groups of
persons, is likely to impact significantly on this group also. The right to refuse groups of
people is also likely to have an effect on young adults over the age of eighteen, who are
often the subject of refusal of entry solely on the basis of their age. There have also been
a number of cases taken on the basis of discrimination based on race.

I'm getting on in age. If I turn up at my local disco when I am 78, will I have right to be angry at being refused?

oeb

Biggins wrote: »

Its a bit of a grey area. Owners gave right to refuse anyone but in doing so, now they must justify their actions by saying why they are refusing entry.
If they don't, they find themselves open to the discrimination laws that were revised just in the last year or two. The traveling community have become aware of this discrimination law and have previously used it to aid their cases of rejection.

Incorrect AFAIK. A bar owner / member of staff / security has no obligation to reveal to the person that they are refusing why they have to clear off.

However, they may be obliged to explain their reasoning to a judge if the person feels that they were being discriminated against.

When I used to work on doors I would never give a reason (unless it was ID related), some people used to get so offended when you told them they were too drunk, and I just found it easier to just say 'Not tonight mate' and leave them make up their own mind. It led to less trouble in the long run.

Biggins

As mentioned, its a bit of a grey area.
Door staff (I think) have to give a reason (for their own good if not for the drunk plonker) for refusing entry if asked.
Having worked, managed and run bars for 20+ years before leaving the business (thats another story) the laws were changing as I was leaving the business, more in favour of the person trying to gain entry.
The travelling community were influential in this, in that there were taking and won a number of cases where they were refused entry, were not given a reason when asked, claimed discrimination and took their cases further in front of a judge.
The law was then asked to be further defined (by Irish publican societies) to differentiate in cases where such volatile situations regularly occurred.

Subsequently the laws also regarding Doormen themselves (and the now licences they are supposed to possess) was revised too as part of the Private Security Services Act and separate from that, Irish Hospitality Law also.

old boy

went ino my local for a quick wan on a night, i was asked for 2 euro admission for music for dancing, i had 2 1/2 wans and left after 20 minutes, as i was leaving i was asked again for the 2 euro, i refused stating that i am partially disabled barley able to walk without a cane, the owner came over to me stopping the music told me to pay for the music or i was barred for life, telling me that he knew all about me, that i got easy money out of false claims, i just walked out saying nothing as i did not want to lower myself to his level, that was about 4 years ago, i have not been back since

Biggins

Sorry to hear you were treated so badly.
Fair play to you for taking the higher road.

robtri

Kiera wrote: »

You was barred from Tomangoes by a new kid of a bouncer because he put his hands on me and pushed me at closing time. I was 17 drunk and roared abuse at him for putting his hands on me. Fecker wouldnt let me in for about 6 months. Grew out of my Tomangoes buzz at about 19 thank fuck.

classy lady

Zzippy

Barred from the Kings Head for taking a dump in the jacks...