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Where are all the decent guys of Dublin gone???

  • 16-11-2008 11:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Good Morning Everyone!
    Newbie here! But have often kept an eye on the boards- they can at times be very entertaining!!

    So yeah maybe the title of my thread is a little negative! But lets put into perspective! Im a 25 year old good looking female ( not wanting to sound arrogant), succesful career, and really outgoing! Have had few diffferent boyfriends in the past, but none of them have taken to my heart if you get me!

    Ok, I have high standards- and no they are not ridiculously high, but I wont settle for just anyone, I do believe that a lot of people just settle for the sake of it Im not going to.

    So begs the question where are the decent guys of Dublin?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Ok Alicia Angel here again! :D

    Ok I just want to explain a few things that I left out in the first post!!:rolleyes:

    I go out and do the gym and all the usual stuff- like Im no freak and definitely not introverted. The past couple of weeks that I have been out I seem to be attracting idiots! And no Im not exaggerating!
    Im not the type of girl either that goes home with some random guy- I am in the minority there!
    I reckon a lot of the decent guys of Dublin have left our emerald isle!! Or are they hiding under a rock somewhere!??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    What exactly are your high standards?

    Career?
    No previous attachments?
    Intelligent?
    Educated?
    Funny?
    Attractive?
    Tall?
    etc.

    Maybe you are looking for too much, whether you want to believe it or not :)
    The older you get and the more you look for, the less you find I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Placid_Casual


    They're all on boards!

    Seriously though, I would say there's tonnes of decent guys out there - i'd like to think of myself as one thanks!
    But you're probably being too vague for anybody to be able to answer your question. What are you looking for in a guy? What's your definition of a "decent guy"? What has it been about guys you've gone out with before that you didn't like?
    If you could answer those it would probably help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭j4vier


    you do have to explain your standards a bit
    chances are the nice guys that you mention , are the ones who often dont have the courage to approach u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    i saw a whole bunch of them just off grafton street last night ! (heading from st stephens green centre) it was on one of the right turns... im sorry im terrible with street names in there :(

    myself and my mate just put our heads down and kept walking... dont want to get in *that* kind of group now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    So begs the question where are the decent guys of Dublin?
    South of France. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Well OP how many guys did you approach over the weekend ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    They're all on boards!

    Seriously though, I would say there's tonnes of decent guys out there - i'd like to think of myself as one thanks!
    But you're probably being too vague for anybody to be able to answer your question. What are you looking for in a guy? What's your definition of a "decent guy"? What has it been about guys you've gone out with before that you didn't like?
    If you could answer those it would probably help.

    Hi!

    Yeah, sorry about that I probably am being way too vague. Of course- the older we get the more we want! - Just commenting on a previous comment. Thats common sense, we learn from experience, such is life!

    Ok what am I looking for in a guy- question of all questions!!;)
    Im looking for a guy who is funny, confident- not COCKY, outgoing, respectful, and thats it really! A guy that isnt out for what he can get!
    And guys that know where they are at in their lives! Like not constantly complaining about wanting to move away, or moving career or throwing it all in I guess.

    So where are all the above hiding???Or do they exist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Probably taken. Or else shy/not into pubs/clubs scene.

    Either way, off your radar :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Probably taken. Or else shy/not into pubs/clubs scene.

    Either way, off your radar :)


    Thats great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    I think what tragedy is hinting at is that if you are looking for something and not finding it... then might be an idea to look somewhere else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    If a man is confident, well grounded, funny and has everything in life going for him, why would he be a long term single?

    Women have the "Men approach us, we dont do the approaching" reason. Men you're looking for wont.

    So else they dont socialise in the same circles as you(which is entirely possible, more people seem to be getting pissed off with pubs+clubs thank god) or they're shy(which is more likely).

    I'll also add something I've seen before but which I'm not sure applies in your case: I've seen a lot of people say they've become choosier with age, less willing to settle.. In a lot of cases this can mean they're less willing to try new things or just go with the flow, they get a mental image of The Ideal Man and compare everyone against it.


    I'm sure someone will suggest internet dating soon, who knows - you might be one of the lucky ones :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Tragedy wrote: »
    If a man is confident, well grounded, funny and has everything in life going for him, why would he be a long term single?

    Women have the "Men approach us, we dont do the approaching" reason. Men you're looking for wont.

    So else they dont socialise in the same circles as you(which is entirely possible, more people seem to be getting pissed off with pubs+clubs thank god) or they're shy(which is more likely).


    I have so many different social situations which I mix in! Between sports,volunteering, going out.
    Ah I dont know! Im extremely outgoing and am quite independent - perhaps guys are threatened by that! Who knows!?!:eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Tragedy wrote: »
    If a man is confident, well grounded, funny and has everything in life going for him, why would he be a long term single?
    Good point. I will say that if he is a "catch" and single, it's because he knows it and is working that. I do know guys like you reference and because it seems to me that single OK guys in your age bracket are a rare breed, you are competing in a very competitive market(for want of a better word). Essentially they have the pick of the bunch. They also have a wider age range to pick from too. As such you're going to have to work a lot harder than a 22 year old, who is competing in a much less competitive one. As Thaedydal wrote, how many men do you approach?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Im not the old school type, like I would approach guys out if I really wanted to.
    I know lots of girls like me are asking the same questions

    And dont misinterpret me- Im not desperate nor am I looking for a husband! Just curious to where all the nice guys are gone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Tragedy makes some fair points Alicia. Another thing I would say is that even at the age of 25, it's not exactly easy to know where you're life is going in terms of career, and especially for younger people in the current economic climate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    *Shrug* People are complicated :)

    Best suggestion I have is dont be afraid to go on dates and have a bit of a fun(I dont mean in that way :pac:) and in the meantime, not get to worried about it.

    I know I can obsess about being permanently single myself, but questioning it doesnt really help - it's quite hard for anyone to figure out why some people have it so easy, and some so hard when it comes to finding other halves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Papillon87


    Alicia, hope this doesn't come across the way a couple of other posts on the thread have thus far; there are good intentions behind my words :p

    Anyways, I think if you go about life actively seeking/searching for "a guy" of any type, you are highly likely to be disappointed. Focus on you- doing the things you like, work, friends etc. I'm not saying you do (but I've certainly gone through spells where I have)- but obsessing or getting frustrated over why you're not with someone is a waste of time you could spend enjoying yourself!

    I can, however, empathise with your sentiments. The day-cent men of Ireland are certainly not all taken. Equally, yeah, there are plenty of complete chumps about. Same can be said of women, I would imagine. I know it's frustrating going through droughts, though :p

    Also, from your "list", you are not asking for too much. Basic manners and a bit of personality. Good things in any human being, whatever your relationship with them.

    Relax and go with the flow, twill happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Tragedy wrote: »
    *Shrug* People are complicated :)

    Best suggestion I have is dont be afraid to go on dates and have a bit of a fun(I dont mean in that way :pac:) and in the meantime, not get to worried about it.

    I know I can obsess about being permanently single myself, but questioning it doesnt really help - it's quite hard for anyone to figure out why some people have it so easy, and some so hard when it comes to finding other halves.
    that final note is quite is quite prominent. not only do different people find it less/more difficult to find an other half, but in one person you can go through phases. after a series of relatively serious relationships i've been single for over two years. i'm not letting it bother me too much, i'm sure it will swing and roundabout, such is life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    W
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Good point. I will say that if he is a "catch" and single, it's because he knows it and is working that. I do know guys like you reference and because it seems to me that single OK guys in your age bracket are a rare breed, you are competing in a very competitive market(for want of a better word). Essentially they have the pick of the bunch. They also have a wider age range to pick from too. As such you're going to have to work a lot harder than a 22 year old, who is competing in a much less competitive one. As Thaedydal wrote, how many men do you approach?

    I see you point about the competive market!!
    But not wanting to sound arroagant at all...I do get the attention when I go out. Like I do look after myself and Im not an ice queen. I approach guys and we get chatting etc and then its the usual wanna come back to mine etc.
    And perphaps Im really old school and whatever but I just dont go home with randomers- just not my style- never has, never will.
    Im going to wait now for replies such as , dont be a prude etc, but sure such is life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    W

    I see you point about the competive market!!
    But not wanting to sound arroagant at all...I do get the attention when I go out. Like I do look after myself and Im not an ice queen. I approach guys and we get chatting etc and then its the usual wanna come back to mine etc.
    And perphaps Im really old school and whatever but I just dont go home with randomers- just not my style- never has, never will.
    Im going to wait now for replies such as , dont be a prude etc, but sure such is life.
    nothing prudish about it, but i'll be honest, if a female approaches me in a club, i'll probably say the same thing. which doesn't necessarily mean i have any expectations for the night.

    but then, would you approach me in the street alicia? because seemingly the clubs just are working out for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Papillon87


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Good point. I will say that if he is a "catch" and single, it's because he knows it and is working that. I do know guys like you reference and because it seems to me that single OK guys in your age bracket are a rare breed, you are competing in a very competitive market(for want of a better word). Essentially they have the pick of the bunch. They also have a wider age range to pick from too. As such you're going to have to work a lot harder than a 22 year old, who is competing in a much less competitive one. As Thaedydal wrote, how many men do you approach?


    The term "catch" and what it encompasses is highly tenuous and differs from person to person.

    Also, as a YOUNG (25 being compared to 22?), attractive, highly successful, outgoing female, I wouldn't be getting caught up on "competing" for the attention of an alleged "catch" with girls a couple of years younger.....what's the difference; you have as much to offer if not more as the next girl, regardless of age etc. :rolleyes: Kind of unhealthy approach I would think.

    Apologies if I've completely misinterpreted the quoted post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Blackpitts


    W

    I see you point about the competive market!!
    But not wanting to sound arroagant at all...I do get the attention when I go out. Like I do look after myself and Im not an ice queen. I approach guys and we get chatting etc and then its the usual wanna come back to mine etc.
    And perphaps Im really old school and whatever but I just dont go home with randomers- just not my style- never has, never will.
    Im going to wait now for replies such as , dont be a prude etc, but sure such is life.

    Questions for you to understand what you mean by "high standards':
    - the guy must be irish? would you go out with a foreigner?
    - the guy must be older than you? would u date a divorced man?
    - the guy must be fit and really good looking or just his personality will do?
    - do you look at the job he does, the car he drives, the books he reads?

    you see, I do believe that there are many fishes for you out there, even in their 30's. People can be single not for a choice but also because life doesn't come with an instruction manual.
    For example, a friend of mine discovered that his gf was cheating on him after 5 years together, he is now single, he is 32 yo and he would be a good catch for every girl.
    Another example, I'm foreigner, I'm fit, I have a very good job, I'm 32 and single maybe because I haven't found the girl of my dream yet or I was not really the perfect match for some girls.

    So there are decent guys out there, keep your positive attitude, be friendly and don't go with randomers, "Mr Perfect" is just around the corner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Papillon87 wrote: »
    The term "catch" and what it encompasses is highly tenuous and differs from person to person.

    Also, as a YOUNG (25 being compared to 22?), attractive, highly successful, outgoing female, I wouldn't be getting caught up on "competing" for the attention of an alleged "catch" with girls a couple of years younger.....what's the difference; you have as much to offer if not more as the next girl, regardless of age etc. :rolleyes: Kind of unhealthy approach I would think.

    Apologies if I've completely misinterpreted the quoted post.

    I completely agree, its not a competition!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    But it is a competition. There are a limited amount of desirable, attractive and 'good' guys out there. Same for girls. You see a lot of pretty+nice girls with total pricks, likewise attractive+nice guys with total headwrecking bitches.

    It is a competition, you just get to choose whether you want to compete or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 suppo


    Alicia it works both ways. I would say I am in the same situation as yourself, I'm confident, good sense of humour, good job and the same age as you but I just can't find a girl anywhere.
    People say don't be thinking about it and it will just happen but thats easier said then done, when you feel within yourself that just want to find a girl or guy that you can enjoy yourself with with and hopefully work out to be the one. Especially when it always seems it is happen for all your friends around you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    suppo wrote: »
    Alicia it works both ways. I would say I am in the same situation as yourself, I'm confident, good sense of humour, good job and the same age as you but I just can't find a girl anywhere.
    People say don't be thinking about it and it will just happen but thats easier said then done, when you feel within yourself that just want to find a girl or guy that you can enjoy yourself with with and hopefully work out to be the one. Especially when it always seems it is happen for all your friends around you.

    Yep I hear ya! Jeez I more or less have been saying exactly what you have been saying!Add me to your email!!!Mine is on my profile!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    But not wanting to sound arroagant at all...I do get the attention when I go out. Like I do look after myself and Im not an ice queen. I approach guys and we get chatting etc and then its the usual wanna come back to mine etc.
    Oh no don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're not attractive and you don't get attention or approaches. That's not what I was saying. First off I don't like reducing a complex process down to economics, but there are obvious parallels. I was saying that because of the dynamic of the situation, trying to find a "nice guy/catch/whatever" is more difficult. OK you may get lucky and meet one that isn't aware that they hold more options, but you are more likely to find the guys that know they do(subconsciously or not). Hence the come back to mine thing you're seeing. They do that because they figure if you wont there are enough behind you that will.
    And perphaps Im really old school and whatever but I just dont go home with randomers- just not my style- never has, never will.
    Im going to wait now for replies such as , dont be a prude etc, but sure such is life.
    And fair play to you. I would agree, that you shouldn't with randomers, if you want the odds in your favour for a long termer. It may sound old fashioned etc, but in the main that's the reality.
    Papillon87 wrote:
    The term "catch" and what it encompasses is highly tenuous and differs from person to person.
    I agree, but it doesn't vary that much. People like to think and feel it does, but reality is often more prosaic. There are pretty obvious patterns to how and why people pair up.
    Also, as a YOUNG (25 being compared to 22?), attractive, highly successful, outgoing female, I wouldn't be getting caught up on "competing" for the attention of an alleged "catch" with girls a couple of years younger.....what's the difference; you have as much to offer if not more as the next girl, regardless of age etc. :rolleyes: Kind of unhealthy approach I would think.
    You don't have to compete as much at 25. You're in broadly the same age group. You simply have more options. Try 35 in the same market(pubs/clubs going out).

    How many men of 18 to 25ish come on here that can't get a woman? OK you get the older guys the odd time, but in general it's the younger guys trying to find their feet that have the most difficulty in general. The older guys looking usually are the shyer men who didn't work through the early 20's relationship learning curve.

    Basically, a halfway decent 35 year old man with a half decent life, has a far higher range of options datewise, than a similar woman. he may not think or realise this, but he does. Indeed I would ask questions of a guy at 35 if he had difficulty(he could just be shy etc or fussy though). Even from an age group of potential partners. He can quite easily look at women from 20 to 40. How many 35 year old women are even interested in chatting up 20 year men?*quiet at the back there*:) So like the 20 year old guy has to get out there and work more, so does the 35 year old woman. Obviously that's in general, but it is like that. Again obviously that's just my take on it, but there you go.

    Tragedy wrote:
    But it is a competition. There are a limited amount of desirable, attractive and 'good' guys out there. Same for girls. You see a lot of pretty+nice girls with total pricks, likewise attractive+nice guys with total headwrecking bitches.

    It is a competition, you just get to choose whether you want to compete or not.
    Pretty much

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Alicia Angel ok you may have something in common with another poster, but you'll understand this isn't a dating forum, so take it to PM/email/ Thanks

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    suppo wrote: »
    Alicia it works both ways. I would say I am in the same situation as yourself, I'm confident, good sense of humour, good job and the same age as you but I just can't find a girl anywhere.
    Where are you looking and what are you looking for? I'm serious. they are literally everywhere.
    People say don't be thinking about it and it will just happen but thats easier said then done,
    I agree completely. It's one of those BS lines like "just be yourself". Utter tosh for the most part and doesn't work unless through pure dumb luck. If just "being yourself" or waiting for it to "just happen" worked then few would have this difficulty.

    It requires work and effort. Many think this takes the romance out of it. It doesn't and if you don't make the effort, you'll get no romance.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Alicia Angel ok you may have something in common with another poster, but you'll understand this isn't a dating forum, so take it to PM/email/ Thanks


    I cant pm because apparently I need to have posted 25 posts! Im a new user???!!
    Im completely aware its not a dating website


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    OK but as a new user please read the charter of this forum. Including the part about not replying to mod actions in the thread. If anyone has an issue in this forum then they take it to PM or feedback(I realise you can't yet)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I always find it funny (i.e. strange) how girls reach a certain age and then wonder where all the decent fellas are. This particularly happens among better looking girls. When they're in their prime (looks wise) i.e late teens/early 20's , they enjoy and reap the benefits of being the most attractive around. They never notice that when they are that age that there are girls in their late 20's and above who are "struggling" because of the increased competition. They love the attention from the smooth players when they are younger. They ignore the quieter, more reliable men of a similar age or slightly older. What happens then is that these men get picked up by the "second tier" (looks wise) of girls who aren't distracted by the player-types who are targetting the best looking girls. Hence when they great looking girl hits the age where she doesn't stand out as much as a fresh 20 year old, she doesn't get the attention from the top tier players and she starts to look around and wonders why all the nice men are taken.

    They were probably beside you for years pet, only you weren't interested. You'll still have the fellas who are out chancing their arm for a ride. They will just chance their arm with the younger girls first and if that doesn't succeed they might give you a go.

    You're only 25 so you're not in too bad of a position. A lot of girls refuse to recognise the way these things works until their mid-30's and by then the pickings are slim.

    Sorry if I'm oversimplifying things but I'm just giving my opinion. People might conjecture that I'm bitter, but I'm not. I was one of those quiet young fellas who never got the girl and was turned down in preference to some bull****ting knob.

    Now I'm older, got a good job, doing well for myself financially. The same girls who wouldn't throw me a second glance or who thought I wasn't good enough for them are now considering me as an option...... My response --- why would I give them a chance now? If I wasn't good enough for them then, I'm not going to be a fall back option now after they've spent years messing around with wasters. Why would I? There's loads of younger girls out there. Your average 20 year old beats 80% of 25-30 year olds on looks anyway. Let's be honest, things start to sag and get flabby and not too many girls exercise enough to keep things the way they used to be! Notwithstanding the fact that these younger girls aren't going to have all the emotional baggage that older one invariably have. It's my turn to be the older man impressing the younger girl just because I have a fancy car and job.

    Other friends of mine who I'd consider to have been in similar situations have settled down with aforementioned "second tier looking" girls. They are nice girls and my friends are better off with them. It's just that in your case OP, if you'd made an effort with them when they were younger, you'd probably have snared yourself one of them.


    OP, your problem may have been that you had it handy for many years attracting fellas and now a younger set is coming up behind you and you are no longer the top of the pile. What do you expect? You made the most of the system when you were at the top. You can't criticise it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Alicia Angel


    Hi,
    Can you please forward the message, I wrote about gardiner street, so I can place it in the Dublin thread.Id appreciate it.
    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    if your 25 and have been looking for a decent other half for a long time then I'd start looking closer to home as too why this hasnt worked rather then spending time wondering if they are any decent fellas left in Dublin/have they all gone to Aus.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Alicia Angel Sorry not my job. Post whatever you like about Dublin in the Dublin forum. Again read the charter of this forum. NO more replies on this matter on this thread or I WILL ban you for a week. I've spelled this out enough. End of.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    I always find it funny (i.e. strange) how girls reach a certain age and then wonder where all the decent fellas are. This particularly happens among better looking girls. When they're in their prime (looks wise) i.e late teens/early 20's , they enjoy and reap the benefits of being the most attractive around. They never notice that when they are that age that there are girls in their late 20's and above who are "struggling" because of the increased competition. They love the attention from the smooth players when they are younger. They ignore the quieter, more reliable men of a similar age or slightly older. What happens then is that these men get picked up by the "second tier" (looks wise) of girls who aren't distracted by the player-types who are targetting the best looking girls. Hence when they great looking girl hits the age where she doesn't stand out as much as a fresh 20 year old, she doesn't get the attention from the top tier players and she starts to look around and wonders why all the nice men are taken.

    They were probably beside you for years pet, only you weren't interested. You'll still have the fellas who are out chancing their arm for a ride. They will just chance their arm with the younger girls first and if that doesn't succeed they might give you a go.

    You're only 25 so you're not in too bad of a position. A lot of girls refuse to recognise the way these things works until their mid-30's and by then the pickings are slim.

    Sorry if I'm oversimplifying things but I'm just giving my opinion. People might conjecture that I'm bitter, but I'm not. I was one of those quiet young fellas who never got the girl and was turned down in preference to some bull****ting knob.

    Now I'm older, got a good job, doing well for myself financially. The same girls who wouldn't throw me a second glance or who thought I wasn't good enough for them are now considering me as an option...... My response --- why would I give them a chance now? If I wasn't good enough for them then, I'm not going to be a fall back option now after they've spent years messing around with wasters. Why would I? There's loads of younger girls out there. Your average 20 year old beats 80% of 25-30 year olds on looks anyway. Let's be honest, things start to sag and get flabby and not too many girls exercise enough to keep things the way they used to be! Notwithstanding the fact that these younger girls aren't going to have all the emotional baggage that older one invariably have. It's my turn to be the older man impressing the younger girl just because I have a fancy car and job.

    Other friends of mine who I'd consider to have been in similar situations have settled down with aforementioned "second tier looking" girls. They are nice girls and my friends are better off with them. It's just that in your case OP, if you'd made an effort with them when they were younger, you'd probably have snared yourself one of them.

    OP, your problem may have been that you had it handy for many years attracting fellas and now a younger set is coming up behind you and you are no longer the top of the pile. What do you expect? You made the most of the system when you were at the top. You can't criticise it now.

    Mother of absolute Jasus, This is cutting off your nose to spite your face if there ever was a case of it. Life thankfully isn't the absolute pit of conspiracies that you have suggested above. I was quiet and a bit shy when I was young, it didn't once stop me finding good looking sound girls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Also, you are basically saying that you are now in your late 20's or early 30's and you are turning your nose up at girls your own age and are running around with girls in their early 20's. Any of my mates who are in their early 30's, who started hooking up with girls just out of school or college, would be laughed at.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    While Unregistered's post
    I always find it funny (i.e. strange) how girls reach a certain age and then wonder where all the decent fellas are.........
    may indeed be seen by some as bitter, he is not far wrong. At least it gives an insight into what many older men feel. I can certainly say that pretty much all the 35+ single successful attractive guys who are mates of mine think along those lines.

    TBH I did myself for a while. I got tired of the BS of quite a lot of women I met in my 20's. I've even had exes from 10 years previous look me up, after they became newly single. I kid thee not gentle readers. Exes that were all to happy to dump my sorry arse(sometimes for good reason mind:D), in favour of a "better option" at the time. One actually put it like that. Now they're not so sure.

    I think the club/pub scene is to be avoided really. Yes the drink oils the wheels etc, but it brings a certain vibe to it not always conducive to looking for a partner.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    where are the decent guys of Dublin?


    In Meath, I dont spend my night in Dublin anymore im afraid


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible and no offense is intended.

    OP, in the last few hours alone you've started two threads in PI that were in no way related to a forum called ''personal issues'. The first thread was closed and I assume you got a pm about that, but you started another thread of a similar ilk, which was also closed. I mention this because according to how you've described yourself, you're the perfect gal, but considering your last 2 threads, you don't appear to be the brightest star in the sky. Could you possibly be giving this impression by how you carry yourself? Lot's of guys regard intelligence very highly, and it's clear you're a smart girl as your posts are well articulated. But do you have your 'blonde' moments? Could be a big turn off to some guys.

    Just a thought.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    starn read the charter on off topic pointless posts. No more.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Wibbs wrote: »
    While Unregistered's post may indeed be seen by some as bitter, he is not far wrong. At least it gives an insight into what many older men feel. I can certainly say that pretty much all the 35+ single successful attractive guys who are mates of mine think along those lines.

    TBH I did myself for a while. I got tired of the BS of quite a lot of women I met in my 20's. I've even had exes from 10 years previous look me up, after they became newly single. I kid thee not gentle readers. Exes that were all to happy to dump my sorry arse(sometimes for good reason mind:D), in favour of a "better option" at the time. One actually put it like that. Now they're not so sure.

    I think the club/pub scene is to be avoided really. Yes the drink oils the wheels etc, but it brings a certain vibe to it not always conducive to looking for a partner.

    All my mates are in their early-mid 30's and the ones that are single, wouldn't have a hope of being entertained by girls 10-15 years younger than them, and these lads are good looking and well set up for life!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seahorse


    OP, your problem may have been that you had it handy for many years attracting fellas and now a younger set is coming up behind you and you are no longer the top of the pile. What do you expect? You made the most of the system when you were at the top. You can't criticise it now.

    I don't think I've ever read a post on here dripping with such bitterness. Whoever wrote this has bigger problems than a history of having been passed over for more physically attractive men.

    As for women being passed their prime because they're no longer late teens/early twenties well, lol to that! :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    All my mates are in their early-mid 30's and the ones that are single, wouldn't have a hope of being entertained by girls 10-15 years younger than them, and these lads are good looking and well set up for life!
    So (if they chose to of course) one of your 35 year old mates wouldn't have a hope with a 25 year old? I do agree that going for a 20 year old is a wrong un IMHO anyway.
    seahorse wrote:
    I don't think I've ever read a post on here dripping with such bitterness. Whoever wrote this has bigger problems than a history of having been passed over for more physically attractive men.
    Bitter? Agreed. No doubt, especially that part. That attitude, no, a less bitter one is remarkably common though. I've heard it expressed in less bitter terms way more than once. Now I don't particularly agree with it, but there are a lot of guys who did get passed over or dumped in bad ways when younger that carry that with them and are at the very least very wary. They can afford to be too as opportunities are there.
    As for women being passed their prime because they're no longer late teens/early twenties well, lol to that
    :) true. I can think of a few women I know that are more emotionally together, better looking with more toned and sexy figures at 30 than they were at 18.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭SarahSassy


    Finding a partner you love and who loves you is a lottery and not everyone is lucky...

    There are TONS of decent guys in Dublin but you need to meet a decent guy who loves you and who also tickles your fancy...

    This cannot be orchestrated or strategised - its down to luck and a little bit of positive thinking. Its a cliche but the best thing to do is to make yourself as happy as you can and get on with life while not 'waiting' for him to arrive... Make your own life, enjoy yourself and keep an eye out for Mr Right but not to the detriment of you having a nice life... In other words, go out with your friends, keep an eye out for cute guys but dont get upset if you dont meet one on that particular occasion.

    It will happen. Be positive and believe it..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    SarahSassy wrote: »
    Its a cliche but the best thing to do is to make yourself as happy as you can and get on with life while not 'waiting' for him to arrive... Make your own life, enjoy yourself and keep an eye out for Mr Right but not to the detriment of you having a nice life... In other words, go out with your friends, keep an eye out for cute guys but dont get upset if you dont meet one on that particular occasion.
    Good advice. Though I would slightly disagree with
    This cannot be orchestrated or strategised - its down to luck and a little bit of positive thinking.
    The positive thinking yes, but your good advice is itself a strategy for someone who doesn't do it naturally. Good though. Be happy in yourself and your own life. Keep options open and you massively increase your chances.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Why dont you come along to the boards single mingle op : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055411452

    Might be some nice fellas for you there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Wibbs wrote: »
    So (if they chose to of course) one of your 35 year old mates wouldn't have a hope with a 25 year old? I do agree that going for a 20 year old is a wrong un IMHO anyway.

    Well they are all over 30 and they end up with girls around their own age. Maybe late 20's but not any younger. I'm sure if they were out and a younger girl hit on them, they wouldn't be running away but I've never seen that happen and these lads are fit good looking blokes and can talk for Ireland... I think just off the top of my head, that they would find conversation with a younger girl, completely boringand vice versa, these guys love to talk, solve the worlds problems over a few beers, ya know, barflies! :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭SarahSassy


    SarahSassy wrote: »
    This cannot be orchestrated or strategised - its down to luck and a little bit of positive thinking.

    What I meant by this relates to experiences I see my friends going through - they try to place themselves where they think the largest footfall of elibible men will be e.g. Galway Races, rugby weekends, Cafe en Seine etc and the night is generally overtaken by the expectation of meeting someone...

    Its good to get out there and be open and available but not to run your life by it...


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