MA and Boxing Hand Wraps for training

Killme00

I have never wrapped my hands for training. I have always thought, similar to Weightifting gloves and Wraps, that it would weaken my hands rather than make them stronger. Can anyone explain to me why i should wrap my hands?

cowzerp

they give you wrist support and stop your knuckles cutting up, they dont weaken your hands!

if you plan on doing lots of punching you should use them..

Killme00

When lifting weights,grip strength is the ultimate limiting factor and wraps allow you to go further.

I didnt mean make your hands weaker, i should have said, do they compensate for bad technique by giving your wrist extra support.

Furious-Dave

cowzerp wrote: »

they give you wrist support and stop your knuckles cutting up, they dont weaken your hands!

if you plan on doing lots of punching you should use them..

Hi Paul. Why would one wear wraps as opposed to just bag/sparring gloves? Surely a good pair of gloves would offer the same support and protection. I don't think I've ever met anyone in the various clubs I've trained in who actively uses wraps.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Killme00 wrote: »

When lifting weights,grip strength is the ultimate limiting factor and wraps allow you to go further.

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I take it your talking about pulls, ie rows & deadlifts. If your not using wraps while doing these your truely selling yourself short because your lifts will be limit by your grip strenght and not by the strenght of the major muscles your training to train.

Regards wrapping your knuckles for hitting the bag, focus pads and sparring. Its a no brainer, wraps won't weaken your hands but training without wraps or gloves which are too light will (I have no doubt about it) severely damage the joints in your hands over time.

Of course some people hit the bag harder than others and need heavier gloves, the lighter weights won't be hitting as hard but they'll be hitting more frequency - so everyone IMO should wrap.

Killme00

Mairt wrote: »

I take it your talking about pulls, ie rows & deadlifts. If your not using wraps while doing these your truely selling yourself short because your lifts will be limit by your grip strenght and not by the strenght of the major muscles your training to train.

Regards wrapping your knuckles for hitting the bag, focus pads and sparring. Its a no brainer, wraps won't weaken your hands but training without wraps or gloves which are too light will (I have no doubt about it) severely damage the joints in your hands over time.

Of course some people hit the bag harder than others and need heavier gloves, the lighter weights won't be hitting as hard but they'll be hitting more frequency - so everyone IMO should wrap.

I use gloves for pad work, bag work and sparring but have never wrapped. Do i need to wrap as well?

Furious-Dave

Killme00 wrote: »

I use gloves for pad work, bag work and sparring but have never wrapped. Do i need to wrap as well?

I'll admit I know nothing about wrapping. I have never wrapped and as far as I know none of the people I train with have either. I also don't feel I need to. I don't hit bags anywhere near as hard as I could. I work mainly on bags for speed, accuracy and proper technique - power will come later.

Khannie

Furious-Dave wrote: »

I don't think I've ever met anyone in the various clubs I've trained in who actively uses wraps.

Jesus. That's fairly shocking. I absolutely would not hit a bag or pads without wrapping my hands.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Killme00 wrote: »

I use gloves for pad work, bag work and sparring but have never wrapped. Do i need to wrap as well?

Well I think you should, yes.

It'll just take a few minutes, and when you get used to it you'll appricate the extra comfort and support.

Roper

Wrap. If you're hitting objects hard on a regular basis and
a) you want to hit harder
b) you don't want to have the wrists of an 80 year old in 5 years time
then wrap.

similar to Weightifting gloves and Wraps, that it would weaken my hands rather than make them stronger

straps for lifting make you stronger, in a manner of speaking, gloves for lifting make you more attractive to the same sex.

What would weaken your hands more: wrapping them before you punched, or repeatedly banging them off an object, maybe 500 times a night?

cowzerp

Furious-Dave wrote: »

Hi Paul. Why would one wear wraps as opposed to just bag/sparring gloves? Surely a good pair of gloves would offer the same support and protection. I don't think I've ever met anyone in the various clubs I've trained in who actively uses wraps.

If your hitting a heavy bag hundreds and possibly thousands of times there is a high chance of throwing a poor tecnique punch meaning you could seriously damage your hand, the other thing is power in your punches-if you punch with proper tecnique your power should be well above the average martial artist, again highering your risk of spraining a finger, your wrist etc..

and im my own case, my knuckles rip to bits even with the bandages and gloves on if i havent punched in a week or 2-maybe its the moisturising creams i use!

as a fighter you cant afford to miss weeks of trining due to a pointless injury that could of been prevented..

Bandages are necessary unless you punch like a softie or dont mind been injured needlessly imo..

Killme00

Thanks for the responses. Just gotta learn how to do it now!

:pac:

Pride Fighter

I should get some wraps, I hurt my wrists occasionally when punching my punchbag. This thread is very informative for an amateur such as myself:).

Furious-Dave

As I said I don't know anything about wrapping. So I'll ask again - would a good pair of bag/sparring gloves not offer adequate support and protection?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Furious-Dave wrote: »

As I said I don't know anything about wrapping. So I'll ask again - would a good pair of bag/sparring gloves not offer adequate support and protection?

No.

And one more thing, 'bag glaves' - I swear to god who ever thought those things were a good idea needs to be shot with his own sh*t.

If your using bag mitts (as most ppl call them), bin them, burn them, send 'em into space - do whatever but don't use them.

Furious-Dave

Mairt wrote: »

No.

And one more thing, 'bag glaves' - I swear to god who ever thought those things were a good idea needs to be shot with his own sh*t.

If your using bag mitts (as most ppl call them), bin them, burn them, send 'em into space - do whatever but don't use them.

I don't use bag mitts. I have a pair of cheap MMA gloves that I use to hit the bag and they do the job, though it seems people here do a lot more bag work than I do.

Thanks for the info everyone.

Jason Mc

The pro's are using them for a reason

Nothingcompares

Everyone I know who boxes wraps their hands.

Roper

Bag gloves are grand except they shouldn't be called bag gloves! Pad gloves more like. I don't hit a heavy bag with anything less than 10ozers on me. For pads I use bag gloves and I reccommend to my guys that they do too for the bit of grappling and also big gloves can mask some bad technique in beginners.

Bujinkan

Try this attachment. Have scanned it from my boxing days!

Killme00

Bujinkan wrote: »

Try this attachment. Have scanned it from my boxing days!

Thanks for that. I will try it and see how it feels. One thing though, it doesnt show any wraps between the fingers which i have seen some people do?

Mark Hamill

Mairt wrote: »

I take it your talking about pulls, ie rows & deadlifts. If your not using wraps while doing these your truely selling yourself short because your lifts will be limit by your grip strenght and not by the strenght of the major muscles your training to train.

Would it not be better then to do these without wraps so as to increase your grip strength?

cowzerp wrote:

If your hitting a heavy bag hundreds and possibly thousands of times there is a high chance of throwing a poor tecnique punch meaning you could seriously damage your hand,

But what if (hypothetically) the only reason you aren't damaging your hand is because the wraps are taking up the slack, so to speak, of your not-quite-perfect technique? What happens if you get into a situation where you need to punch something repeatedly and you have no wraps to keep your wrists together for you? If you don't ever train without wraps, will your wrist hold together properly without the support?

Bujinkan

Killme00 wrote: »

Thanks for that. I will try it and see how it feels. One thing though, it doesnt show any wraps between the fingers which i have seen some people do?

This is how we where shown to wrap our hands for bag work. I'll try to find the notes for wrapping your hands for fights.

Sean Quagmire

this is the best and safest way to wraps ur hands. everlast wraps are too short. 'fite rite' wraps will work fine for this..

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmEVQrAVjk

cowzerp

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Would it not be better then to do these without wraps so as to increase your grip strength?


But what if (hypothetically) the only reason you aren't damaging your hand is because the wraps are taking up the slack, so to speak, of your not-quite-perfect technique? What happens if you get into a situation where you need to punch something repeatedly and you have no wraps to keep your wrists together for you? If you don't ever train without wraps, will your wrist hold together properly without the support?

My technigue is fine thanks mark, i'm training to fight with my hands wrapped not for on the street so dont know what your on about! even the best boxers will hit wrong sometimes, why risk it in training? They dont make you use bad technique, they just support you for when you do, which will happen sometimes. unfortunately.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Would it not be better then to do these without wraps so as to increase your grip strength?

You know what John Wayne said about drinking whiskey and water?...

"When I drink whiskey I drink whiskey, when I drink water I drink water. I never drink them together"..

When train your back only to fail because your grip strenght fails you?.

What I'm saying is for grip strenght, train grip strengh. For back training... you get the picture I'm sure.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mark Hamill wrote: »

But what if (hypothetically) the only reason you aren't damaging your hand is because the wraps are taking up the slack, so to speak, of your not-quite-perfect technique?

Would you jog in your bare feet?.

Furious-Dave

Mairt wrote: »

Would you jog in your bare feet?.

LOL. A lot of Karate-ka, and I'd imagine people from other styles, actually do jog barefoot.

Leo?

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

this is the best and safest way to wraps ur hands. everlast wraps are too short. 'fite rite' wraps will work fine for this..

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmEVQrAVjk

I use this method, except I create the pad by wrapping around my fingers a few times then sliding it off.

j walsh

Furious-Dave wrote: »

As I said I don't know anything about wrapping. So I'll ask again - would a good pair of bag/sparring gloves not offer adequate support and protection?

Absolutely not, i,ve over 20 years experience in training and teaching in kickboxing, boxing and muay thai gyms and i,ve never seen anyone train regularly without wraps, and you should use boxing gloves not bag mitts , mitts are too light and easy to hold your hands even when tired , get used to holding your hands up with 12 or 14 oz gloves when tired and this should will help your guard.there's no real support for the wrists with bag mitts and when you get tired and your throwing hooks when your form is bad you'll damage them badly,boxing gloves have proper support there.

On wrapping your hands its not rocket science just spread your fingers,
start at the wrist and depending whether you have 3 metre or 5 metre wraps ( i prefer 5 metre)wrap a few times around then move upto your knuckles and a few times around them aswell , remember not to tight either, then go back around your thumb and back up in between each finger starting with your index finger, then back around your knuckles some more leaving a bit for back around your wrist to finish off with.

Khannie

How to wrap your hands.