M11 - Gorey Motorway Service Area

Amtmann

See here, and scroll down: http://www.nra.ie/Publications/EISPublications/

BluntGuy

I think I already saw that a month or two ago...


It's going to be one of those so-called 'Type 2' service areas with the full range of facilities is it not? Did anybody go to the public information day this month?

When are they going to draw up EIS plans for the other service areas. They will be needed incredibly soon! Especially since it says on that PDF:

Construction works are due to commence in 2009 and are anticipated to last on a continous basis for approximately 12 to 18 months.

I'd imagine it would be the same or more for each for the M6/M7/M8/M9 service areas, so they'd want to get a move on!

BluntGuy

By the way, here is the map of all the proposed service areas (note that it still refers to the 'N8', 'N9' etc):

tylercheribini

Construction well under way. Ill throw up a picture up soon. Supposed to open for business in October.

tylercheribini

Pictures taken today

GerardKeating

tylercheribini wrote: »

Pictures taken today

So won't be open for October then...

tylercheribini

GerardKeating wrote: »

So won't be open for October then...

Hey, dont shoot the messenger pal, I just work here.

nordydan

tylercheribini wrote: »

Hey, dont shoot the messenger pal, I just work here.

Maybe if you took less time taking photographs and more time building service stations it would be ready by now!

tylercheribini

nordydan wrote: »

Maybe if you took less time taking photographs and more time building service stations it would be ready by now!

I dont actually "work here", its called an expression, not to be taken literally. That is end of photos for this thread anyway if all I get is abuse for it. Well done for ruining it for everyone. Have a nice day

nordydan

tylercheribini wrote: »

I dont actually "work here", its called an expression, not to be taken literally. That is end of photos for this thread anyway if all I get is abuse for it. Well done for ruining it for everyone. Have a nice day

I think you missed the point there...

tylercheribini

nordydan wrote: »

I think you missed the point there...

Irony does not translate on boards,(Thought the smiley face after have a nice day would have been a give away) I was hoping my 'outburst' would hide my laziness about my posting any more pictures

Joey Joe-Joe Jr

tylercheribini wrote: »

Irony does not translate on boards,(Thought the smiley face after have a nice day would have been a give away) I was hoping my 'outburst' would hide my laziness about my posting any more pictures

Maybe if you took less time doing the ironing and more time building service stations it would be ready by now!

tylercheribini

#serviceareabantzcrew

GerardKeating

tylercheribini wrote: »

Hey, dont shoot the messenger pal, I just work here.

Not shooting anyone, just being a little cheeky..

tylercheribini

no worries man...i think from latest photos its evident it wont be finished before the new year even..they seem to be moving at a very slow pace any time I see site.

bido

Hi does anyone know what shops are going to be there and how to apply for a job thank you

GerardKeating

tylercheribini wrote: »

no worries man...i think from latest photos its evident it wont be finished before the new year even..they seem to be moving at a very slow pace any time I see site.

Is it a clone of the M4/M1 service stations, or different design?

tylercheribini

GerardKeating wrote: »

Is it a clone of the M4/M1 service stations, or different design?

As far as i know it will be the same as existing applegreen/burger king/costa coffee service stations.

jd

tylercheribini wrote: »

no worries man...i think from latest photos its evident it wont be finished before the new year even..they seem to be moving at a very slow pace any time I see site.

I'd say this station is economically marginal at best, at least until the Enniscorthy By-Pass is built. Coynes Cross SC doesn't help either.

tylercheribini

jd wrote: »

I'd say this station is economically marginal at best, at least until the Enniscorthy By-Pass is built. Coynes Cross SC doesn't help either.

yeah I would say it would never have been built at all if they knew coynes cross was in the pipeline, that development came out of nowhere and was completed relatively quickly. Indeed the Wicklow People even carried an article questioning the viability of the gorey devlopment upon news of the coynes cross site acquisition. Permission was sought for gorey service area based on celtic tiger levels of economic growth/projections and resulting traffic increases. I know this because I attended alot of the oral hearings when the residents of the area objected to the development back in 09.One of the NRA's arguments was the gorey site needed to be built as there was no adequate online service/rest area from there to Dublin.Upon permission being granted it became grouped with newlands cross/n11 upgrade ppp contract and construction stalled until funding was provided for all these projects. By then of course Coynes Cross had got the green light.

mollser

Is there a plan of this service station available anywhere? Particularly interested in what local access, if any, will be available to the service station, and more importantly to me, local access to the M11, as its very handy for where I need to get to!

Thanks

tylercheribini

mollser wrote: »

Is there a plan of this service station available anywhere? Particularly interested in what local access, if any, will be available to the service station, and more importantly to me, local access to the M11, as its very handy for where I need to get to!

Thanks

I have it on cd rom from the oral hearings at home somewhere. Ill upload it here when I get a chance. Do note though that they seem to change these plans when it suits them and there have already been substantial alterations from original plans. Service area will only be accessible from M11 though. There are plans for an access entrance on the Ballyellen road but this will be for employee's/emergency use only. Id imagine a keypad activated barrier will be in place here.

mollser

That's great information tylercheribini, thanks for that!

Disappointing about the lack of local access though, would be a nice facility to have on the doorstep but pretty much useless otherwise. Perhaps that was done at the behest of the garage/facilities in and around Inch, I can understand that.

tylercheribini

mollser wrote: »

That's great information tylercheribini, thanks for that!

Disappointing about the lack of local access though, would be a nice facility to have on the doorstep but pretty much useless otherwise. Perhaps that was done at the behest of the garage/facilities in and around Inch, I can understand that.

The residents raised this access entrance as a major concern at the oral hearing for obvious reasons. An already busy country road would have become alot busier if this entrance was open to the general public.

GerardKeating

mollser wrote: »

That's great information tylercheribini, thanks for that!

Disappointing about the lack of local access though, would be a nice facility to have on the doorstep but pretty much useless otherwise. Perhaps that was done at the behest of the garage/facilities in and around Inch, I can understand that.

It is the same for all the M-Way service stations, no local access, and only services relevant to motorists, it's part of the planning conditions, to avoid them becoming Shopping Centres.

tylercheribini

Took these photos yesterday. As you can see, not much noticeable difference from previous photos

tylercheribini

Pictures taken yesterday. Light poles gone up

tylercheribini

Pictures taken earlier today.

tylercheribini

Taken today

bido

Does anyone know who r where to contact to see if there is any jobs available here

BoatMad

Any news when this is openjng

jd

BoatMad wrote: »

Any news when this is openjng

Autumn according to Official site - contract has to be signed with operator. TOPAZ is the preferred Tender, I believe

http://www.n7n11.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/09-BAM-N11-May15-Newsletter-Print.pdf

Wicklow People says may be end of the year..
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/m11-services-wont-open-until-end-of-year-31255634.html

BoatMad

End of the year.

What are they at. Bam built a whole motorway faster.

Topaz , well there goes any chance of lower fuel costs

Carawaystick

This is an awful clusterfeic by the nra. How could they not have got the operator ready to go from construction finish?

jd

Carawaystick wrote: »

This is an awful clusterfeic by the nra. How could they not have got the operator ready to go from construction finish?

That aside, I'd say business won't be great until the Enniscorthy bypass is complete (end 2017?)

BoatMad

jd wrote: »

That aside, I'd say business won't be great until the Enniscorthy bypass is complete (end 2017?)

Even then, there will be weed growing in the forecourt , I live in gorey, the motorway south of arklow is quiet at the best of times , apple green in coynes cross will mop up most customers

I can't understand the siting decisions for these service stations, just like the one being built in Athlone , is right beside two immediately accessible complexes at adjacent junctions, gorey is straddled between two major exits both of which have nearby facilities.

Surely around enniscorthy or clough, camolin , etc on the next M11 stage would be far better

veryangryman

BoatMad wrote: »

I can't understand the siting decisions for these service stations, just like the one being built in Athlone , is right beside two immediately accessible complexes at adjacent junctions, gorey is straddled between two major exits both of which have nearby facilities.

Surely around enniscorthy or clough, camolin , etc on the next M11 stage would be far better

The one in Athlone is ~ exactly halfway between Dublin and Galway. I'd say thats their logic. And i agree, they didnt take into account the plentiful handy offline services. You even have fuel facilities immediately on Junction 12 and 13 of N6 to add to those you listed.

Where one would put it though. You can't really use the M6 toll section; the numbers using it are too low as it is.

Kilbeggan/Tyrrelspass stretch wouldn't have been a bad shout for a station.

BoatMad

jd wrote: »

That aside, I'd say business won't be great until the Enniscorthy bypass is complete (end 2017?)

veryangryman wrote: »

The one in Athlone is ~ exactly halfway between Dublin and Galway. I'd say thats their logic. And i agree, they didnt take into account the plentiful handy offline services. You even have fuel facilities immediately on Junction 12 and 13 of N6 to add to those you listed.

Where one would put it though. You can't really use the M6 toll section; the numbers using it are too low as it is.

Kilbeggan/Tyrrelspass stretch wouldn't have been a bad shout for a station.

Kilbeggan or east of ballinasloe.

tylercheribini

Dormant for how long?

Falcon L

Any sign of the dispute over this being settled and the place opening?

marno21

MOD: Moved to Roads

Lumina

Has anyone any update on this service station? Shocked it is still not open.

OldMrBrennan83

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jd

Did the hearing in the commercial court ever Happen?

Lumina

jd wrote: »

Did the hearing in the commercial court ever Happen?

I assumed from http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/maintaining-idle-motorway-services-costing-15-000-a-month-1.2779044 that it had but would not know where to look to see if a decision had been made.

radharc

The hearing took place and judgement has been reserved since last October. Which in a nutshell means the judge will issue a decision when he is good and ready.

D Trent

radharc wrote: »

The hearing took place and judgement has been reserved since last October. Which in a nutshell means the judge will issue a decision when he is good and ready.

Mod: <snip>

Keep this kind of remark out of this forum.

tylercheribini

I'd imagine neither party of dispute are in a rush to open the station anyway, not at least until Enniscorthy bypass is finished and site becomes some way viable again. The cullenmore applegreen service area has essentially rendered the Inch one null and void. As a resident of the area I attended the oral hearings regarding permission for Inch stop and one of the NRA's central arguments for its construction was the fact there was no dedicated service stop/rest area from Dublin to that point.

OldMrBrennan83

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vicwatson

Patww79 wrote: »

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It is typical that the taxpayer has to fund this ridiculous ongoing cost of 12k a month or whatever. Stupid situation.

badgerbroc11

Now that the legal case is over any word on who is going to operate the service station or when it's likely to open?