Has anyone tried the Inman Aligner?

firedancered

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

Have to say lads I am not a fan of all this interproximal stripping.......

At the end of the day, I don't drink and I don't smoke. If the worst thing I'm doing to my body is having my teeth interproximally stripped to make them straight, then I'll live with it.

smiletime

firedancered wrote: »

At the end of the day, I don't drink and I don't smoke. If the worst thing I'm doing to my body is having my teeth interproximally stripped to make them straight, then I'll live with it.

Aye, I am not a fan of the IPR either, but I would prefer that any day over ripping out a healthy tooth to make room! When he suggested that I almost fainted!!

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Two healthy teeth removed to make space or multiple teeth stripped.........? What are the orthodontists views?

smiletime

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

Two healthy teeth removed to make space or multiple teeth stripped.........? What are the orthodontists views?

Who said two teeth???

My dentist said removing one was an option due to overcrowding as I have all my teeth and all wisdom teeth.

firedancered

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

Two healthy teeth removed to make space or multiple teeth stripped.........? What are the orthodontists views?

@ Elisabeth Rough Radish - Are you an orthodontist, dentist, dental practitioner/ specialist?????
What are your views based on, with 'not being a fan' of interproximal stripping?
I ask out of curiousity, not to be a smart arse.
I can't imagine anyone being a 'fan' of it, or having teeth pulled, or drilled to be filled...
I had 2 teeth extracted when I had tracks as a teen. And lost a tooth after root canal a few years back. I'd like to keep the teeth I do have left. So I have no problem with the filing.
And describing the process as 'stripping' the teeth is very harsh. Its more of an abraisive flossing, if that makes sense.
They're not being ground down. As I say, its more of an abraisive floss.

firedancered

@ Smiletime
Were you happy with your checkup today?

smiletime

firedancered wrote: »

@ Smiletime
Were you happy with your checkup today?

Hi Firedancered,

Yeah I am very happy

I didn't think they had moved that much, but when he showed me how they looked 3 weeks ago I realise now that they have!

The dentist was very pleased with it and says its great for this amount of time. Says 2 of my teeth have moved over 1mm already.

He only done a tiny bit of filing (I was hoping for more), but other than that, I was in and out of there in 5 mins!

He was happy to see that the outer bow is almost making contact with all the teeth now. When I first got the aligner fitted it stuck out so much, but now its gone in a lot.

Back again in another 3 weeks.:D

btkm8unsl0w5r4

firedancered wrote: »

@ fitzgeme - Are you an orthodontist, dentist, dental practitioner/ specialist?????
What are your views based on, with 'not being a fan' of interproximal stripping?

Specialist, views based on experience of excessive stripping to avoid conventional fixed appliances and extractions.

firedancered

Excellent smiletime! I'm delighted to hear. Yeah the checkups only take a few mins, which is great.
Have a good weekend!

smiletime

firedancered wrote: »

Excellent smiletime! I'm delighted to hear. Yeah the checkups only take a few mins, which is great.
Have a good weekend!

Thanks

You too!

smiletime

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

Specialist, views based on experience of excessive stripping to avoid conventional fixed appliances and extractions.

Have you had the Inman Aligner? Or have you had the stripping done with another different device? Were you really unhappy with it?

day dreamer

I wouldnt be a fan of the Inman aligner. It gives very little control over the teeth in terms of rotations, intrusion or extrusion. It would tkae longer than fixed appliances and needs more compliance

Stripping or interproximal reduction is done extensively if there is small amount of crowding. It is very useful if there are black triangles at the gum margins.

Excessive stripping is not a good idea and it always needs to be done carefully. The lower incisors usually tolerate the least ammont of stripping as the enamel there is thinnest. The best place is usually in the premolars or if there are triangular shaped teeth.

Nobody likes to extract teeth but somtimes there is no alternative no matter what people tell you

smiletime

day dreamer wrote: »

I wouldnt be a fan of the Inman aligner. It gives very little control over the teeth in terms of rotations, intrusion or extrusion. It would tkae longer than fixed appliances and needs more compliance

Stripping or interproximal reduction is done extensively if there is small amount of crowding. It is very useful if there are black triangles at the gum margins.

Excessive stripping is not a good idea and it always needs to be done carefully. The lower incisors usually tolerate the least ammont of stripping as the enamel there is thinnest. The best place is usually in the premolars or if there are triangular shaped teeth.

Nobody likes to extract teeth but somtimes there is no alternative no matter what people tell you

Luckily I have only had a very small amount of it done, so have nothing to complain about

greenybaby

I have an appointment in snip in 2 weeks, now i know the intial consultation is free and there is a facebook discount of €100 if you decide to go ahead with the treatment :cool: but my question is............. €1700 is a hole lot of yoyos to be paying for braces, do they work on a payment plan or is it cash up front

firedancered

Hiya greenybaby.:D
I paid up front. I don't know what practice is in clane and what way they work their payments, But I'm with snip and they have a payment plan. I'm not 100% sure what way it works though.Give your place a call, I'm sure they'd be delighted to give you the breakdown.
Bear in mind the brace is on for a relatively small amount of time. Mine is on 11 weeks today - but my teeth have been pretty much perfectly straight the last 3 weeks. I've just been waiting for them to settle back down into my gums.

AE86JAY

greenybaby wrote: »

I have an appointment in clane in 2 weeks, now i know the intial consultation is free and there is a facebook discount of €100 if you decide to go ahead with the treatment :cool: but my question is............. €1700 is a hole lot of yoyos to be paying for braces, do they work on a payment plan or is it cash up front

I'm getting mine off next week so only had them on for 3 months or so, My 4 front top teeth had moved all over the place the last couple of years so it was just to straighten them, I paid €2500, 1 installment of 1k then last week paid the remaining 1.5k, I'm getting a permanent tiny bar behind my 4 front teeth to stop them moving again so wont have to wear a retainer at night, also getting whitening done as well, Is it <snip> you got that price in?

Just to add in for people thinking of getting them,

I had terrible speech problems for the first 3 weeks or so BUT stick with it you do acustom to it, Mine were completely comfortable after about the 1st month (sounds a long time but not really), I could talk perfectly and not salvating at all,

smiletime

greenybaby wrote: »

I have an appointment in snip in 2 weeks, now i know the intial consultation is free and there is a facebook discount of €100 if you decide to go ahead with the treatment :cool: but my question is............. €1700 is a hole lot of yoyos to be paying for braces, do they work on a payment plan or is it cash up front

Hi Greenybaby.

I am paying by installments with my dentist. I gave a 100 euro deposit and can pay of the rest as I go along
Best asking them if they let you do installments as I have found its way easier

1700 euros is waaayyy cheap compared to any other form of brace out there Good luck with it!

AE86JAY

I got mine off about a week ago, All the little niggly bits add up, I had to get a permenant retainer made that was €120 I think then I also had to get a retainer made that I can wear at night if I want, and also doubles up as a teeth whitener appliance, I made a mistake though I wasnt minding, he only made one for my top teeth so I have to go back now and get another bottom one made up which is another €80, Over all I'm happy with the result although it is pricey enough.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Unfortunatly teeth vary so prices for different people will vary, braces are not the same for everyone so when one person say they got it for X that does not mean that your teeth can be straightened for the same ammount, your case may be more difficult, take longer etc......other peoples experiances are usefull but are not generalisable.

smiletime

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

Unfortunatly teeth vary so prices for different people will vary, braces are not the same for everyone so when one person say they got it for X that does not mean that your teeth can be straightened for the same ammount, your case may be more difficult, take longer etc......other peoples experiances are usefull but are not generalisable.

I'd really get my facts straight before coming on here commenting about this treatment.
Unfortunately, YOU are the one generalising in this case - and getting it very wrong.
Call a few dentists in Ireland who specialise in the Inman Aligner, get informed

smiletime

AE86JAY wrote: »

I got mine off about a week ago, All the little niggly bits add up, I had to get a permenant retainer made that was €120 I think then I also had to get a retainer made that I can wear at night if I want, and also doubles up as a teeth whitener appliance, I made a mistake though I wasnt minding, he only made one for my top teeth so I have to go back now and get another bottom one made up which is another €80, Over all I'm happy with the result although it is pricey enough.

Hi,
Congrats on finishing your treatment! You must be delighted.

Can you pm me who your dentist is? I just hope its not mine.:)

The retainer is included in the price of the aligner and I don't think he should have charged you for it. I have emailed Donal Inman in the states about the treatment etc, and I am pretty sure your dentist should not be charging you for the retainer or the bonded wire. :D

btkm8unsl0w5r4

firedancered wrote: »

The inman is being advertised as €1700 regardless of teeth types in various clinics. My teeth were a completely different scenario to that of my friend, and we're both paying the same.

smiletime wrote: »

I'd really get my facts straight before coming on here commenting about this treatment.
Unfortunately, YOU are the one generalising in this case - and getting it very wrong.
Call a few dentists in Ireland who specialise in the Inman Aligner, get informed

I am a dentist and very well informed, orthodontic treatment should not be the same price for all patients, if it is then if your a simple case your subsidizing the more complex cases. Usually its dentists that use only one system (clearstep, 6 month smiles, innmann, invasalign etc) that flat rate their treatment. The aim is straight teeth not to get a particular aligner in for everyone, and the best way to achieve this goal will differ for each case

Regardless enjoy the results and wear the retainers as aligner treatments relapse like crazy

Orthoman

Fitgeme,

How do you keep sane with some of this stuff?:)

smiletime

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

I am a dentist and very well informed, orthodontic treatment should not be the same price for all patients, if it is then if your a simple case your subsidizing the more complex cases. Usually its dentists that use only one system (clearstep, 6 month smiles, innmann, invasalign etc) that flat rate their treatment. The aim is straight teeth not to get a particular aligner in for everyone, and the best way to achieve this goal will differ for each case

Regardless enjoy the results and wear the retainers as aligner treatments relapse like crazy

Fitzgeme, that is your opinion.
I, for one, am glad I don't attend your practice, where you charge whatever you like.
Take your gripe up with dentists if it annoys you that much over their flat rate treatments, it's not our problem.
We are only on here saying it like it is - from a patients experience.
One last thing, for an eductated orthodontist - your spelling is a disgrace.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

I am glad you didnt attend my practice also because I am not an orthodontist and carry out no orthodontic treatment whatsoever (not that there is anything to stop me saying I am Irelands most experienced provider of new re-voluntary 60 second invisible braces in the morning). Nor have I ever said I was (However as part I my education I had to learn a fair bit about orthodontics and do keep you to date with whats going on).

You completely missed my point about flat rate...it means that you may be overpaying!. What if a painter said, house painting 1000 euro. You have a tiny house and the next guy has a huge house, thats great if your the one with the big house and great for the painter if you the one with the tiny house.

Also if your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails, if the walls of the house are cracking you will fire on ahead and paint them cause all you have is a paint brush and paint and you had already quoted 1000 for the job.

I am mildly dyslexic (I thought my sig would have given you some hint that my spelling is a running issue for me for the 5 years I have moderated this forum) but it has not stopped me from attaining a high level education and learning how to think for myself, thanks for the concern.

I am glad you are happy with your treatment, and I am sure your dentist who is providing this treatment for you is delighted that you defend your decisions so vigorously despite not completing treatment yet.

You think you are saying how it is from a patients point of view - but you actually parroting what you have been told by carefully manipulated marketing, shills & advertising. Your only experience is your own, you don't know what you don't know.

Orthoman

smiletime wrote: »

I'd really get my facts straight before coming on here commenting about this treatment.
Unfortunately, YOU are the one generalising in this case - and getting it very wrong.
Call a few dentists in Ireland who specialise in the Inman Aligner, get informed

Smiletime,

I think you'll find that those who "specialise" in the Inman Aligner in Ireland in general have limited ability and knowledge when it comes to orthodontics which is why they're using the thing anyway. In fact when it comes to an Inman Aligner, I'm sure one could train the monkeys in Dublin Zoo to take an impression and fit the thing ....... then I could also justify the fee.

Why should the opinion from Donal Inman in the States matter what a dentist in Ireland should be charging for .... might as well ask Koango Boango, an Aborigine from Australia?

With regard to your comment about Fitzgeme's spelling, here you have somebody educated in the dental field who is giving up his (or her ) time for free to give constructive advice to help the layman see through the waffle ..... Get a life!

No I have no idea who Fitzgeme is. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Thanks orthoman, I would say when it come to fine finishing there may be some issues for some of the type A personality posters here who may have expectations beyond what tipping and stripping will give.

Oral Surgeon

As a new user of Boards- I would like to apologize in advance for all my future spelling mistakes, please don't hold it against me or my wise posts......

Elisabeth Rough Radish wrote: »

I am glad you didnt attend my practice also because I am not an orthodontist and carry out no orthodontic treatment whatsoever (not that there is anything to stop me saying I am Irelands most experienced provider of new re-voluntary 60 second invisible braces in the morning). Nor have I ever said I was (However as part I my education I had to learn a fair bit about orthodontics and do keep you to date with whats going on).

You completely missed my point about flat rate...it means that you may be overpaying!. What if a painter said, house painting 1000 euro. You have a tiny house and the next guy has a huge house, thats great if your the one with the big house and great for the painter if you the one with the tiny house.

Also if your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails, if the walls of the house are cracking you will fire on ahead and paint them cause all you have is a paint brush and paint and you had already quoted 1000 for the job.

I am mildly dyslexic (I thought my sig would have given you some hint that my spelling is a running issue for me for the 5 years I have moderated this forum) but it has not stopped me from attaining a high level education and learning how to think for myself, thanks for the concern.

I am glad you are happy with your treatment, and I am sure your dentist who is providing this treatment for you is delighted that you defend your decisions so vigorously despite not completing treatment yet.

You think you are saying how it is from a patients point of view - but you actually parroting what you have been told by carefully manipulated marketing, shills & advertising. Your only experience is your own, you don't know what you don't know.

day dreamer

Fitz your restraint is remarkable. You must be goin soft in your old age.

You are giving free impartial advice, if a patient wont accept it well that's their decision.

How does a dentist become an Inman specialist anyway? I am sure Mr Inman will know

RayMers

Hi, anyone recommend a good place that does the inman around north dublin?