Creepy Caller - Herald AM

The_Minister · 20-10-2008 2:21pm #1

Herald AM run an interesting service. They give you a number to give to guys you just aren't into, and they print the "best" calls left on the answering machine.

Do any of you girls use this number? Would you?
Do you ever give guys the wrong number on purpose, rather than just say no?
Do you feel guilty about it?

And, no, it's never happened to me.

Nothingcompares · 20-10-2008 2:24pm

I think this is an ugly horrible idea.

Macha · 20-10-2008 2:31pm

That is just so cruel.

Clare Bear · 20-10-2008 2:32pm

That is just mean.....unless they were a complete dickhead....hmmm....I could think of a few boys that I would have liked to have done that to in the past

She Devil · 20-10-2008 2:35pm

I used to give guys my dads number, my dad no likey been woken up at 4am for a booty call

Ginny · 20-10-2008 2:37pm

Its awfully mean, grow some balls (Ahem!) and just say you aren't interested!

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 2:37pm

If someone was so harsh as to do that to me just because 'she wasn't that into' me I wouldn't hesitate hunt them down and make them suffer.
Giving out a fake number is one thing, but going out of your way to humiliate someone is just plain wrong.

The_Minister · 20-10-2008 2:39pm

Galvasean wrote: »

If someone was so harsh as to do that to me just because 'she wasn't that into' me I wouldn't hesitate hunt them down and make them suffer.

:eek:

GAAman · 20-10-2008 2:41pm

Scott mills on radio 1 has been doin this for years now worse then the herald they actually air the voicemails left by the (usually) fellas so it could be a damn sight worse

seamus · 20-10-2008 2:43pm

I strongly question the legality of this exercise. Although the guys would probably need proper brass ones to stand up and challenge it.

Clare Bear · 20-10-2008 2:44pm

GAAman wrote: »

Scott mills on radio 1 has been doin this for years now worse then the herald they actually air the voicemails left by the (usually) fellas so it could be a damn sight worse

Is he still doing that? Oh God that used to be so painful to listen to.

g'em · 20-10-2008 2:45pm

The_Minister wrote: »

Herald AM run an interesting service. They give you a number to give to guys you just aren't into, and they print the "best" calls left on the answering machine.

Yes, that's exactly what we need, a minority of mean, cowardly beatches to make a holy show of some poor unsuspecting fella in a newspaper. That will work wonders for the reputation of Irish women.

JaneyMc · 20-10-2008 2:49pm

I have given out fake numbers before, usually old ones that I don't use anymore, so I can remember them if asked to confirm it. But that's absolutley horrible. If it was done to me, I would very upset, and I could never see myself doing it to anyone!

Slow Motion · 20-10-2008 2:50pm

It's pretty sad for anyone to do this to be someone, and to anyone who has I would say at least the fella/girl had a lucky escape from you even if they were humiliated in the process!

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 2:52pm

The_Minister wrote: »

:eek:

Eye for an eye and what not.

Publicly humiliating someone by branding them a creep across national media because they had the gaul to tell you they liked them is nothing admirable and worthy of punishment.

Zulu · 20-10-2008 2:53pm

She Devil wrote: »

I used to give guys my dads number, my dad no likey been woken up at 4am for a booty call

Why would you do that to your dad?

monkeyfudge · 20-10-2008 2:54pm

What's the number? I'll ring it up now.. I'm sure I can come up with some interesting messages for it.

She Devil · 20-10-2008 3:05pm

Some guys are too hard to get rid of, pestering pestering pestering!! One night a guy walked all the way to my front door with me because i wouldnt agree to go on a date with him! Giving a number gets rid of them, And i gave my dads number because i know no better man to tell someone F off!

LightningBolt · 20-10-2008 3:12pm

Ever here of Dimitiri from toronto? I think these are the types they're looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acERZQIAjUk

Seriously like wtf:eek::D

PeakOutput · 20-10-2008 3:18pm

LightningBolt wrote: »

Ever here of Dimitiri from toronto? I think these are the types they're looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acERZQIAjUk

Seriously like wtf:eek::D

thats pretty funny 'im actually quite a catch'

cuckoo · 20-10-2008 3:28pm

What a cruel idea. Horrible.

When i think of some of the awkward voicemails i've left men at the start of the 'getting to know you phase'...... *cringe*

The prospect of the transcript of one of those awkward messages being giggled at by bus loads of bored commuters is horrifying.

Eurgh, i feel slightly unclean even thinking about such a horrible concept, and wondering at the motivations of the people who created it, and those that hand out the number.

Slow Motion · 20-10-2008 3:30pm

cuckoo wrote: »

What a cruel idea. Horrible.

When i think of some of the awkward voicemails i've left men at the start of the 'getting to know you phase'...... *cringe*

The prospect of the transcript of one of those awkward messages being giggled at by bus loads of bored commuters is horrifying.

Eurgh, i feel slightly unclean even thinking about such a horrible concept, and wondering at the motivations of the people who created it, and those that hand out the number.

Sad muppets with juvenile senses of humour who like to make up for their lack of self esteem by mocking others!

Dragan · 20-10-2008 3:30pm

The_Minister wrote: »

Herald AM run an interesting service. They give you a number to give to guys you just aren't into, and they print the "best" calls left on the answering machine.

Do any of you girls use this number? Would you?
Do you ever give guys the wrong number on purpose, rather than just say no?
Do you feel guilty about it?

And, no, it's never happened to me.

A total rag reaching to get some readership. Who new?

The interesting thing is that no doubt some women will think it funny to lead blokes on and then give them this number.

It should be noted any such women are whores.

Reku · 20-10-2008 3:34pm

GinnyJo wrote: »

grow some balls (Ahem!) and just say you aren't interested!

Think the growing of balls will ensure that they're not interested.:p

Seriously though I always feel this is a bad reflection on Irish women and probably a none-too-flattering reflection on Irish mens' ability to gracefully accept rejection.:(

zAbbo · 20-10-2008 3:38pm

Radio 1 (UK) used to do the flirt divert number, and some of the voicemails and texts were brilliant.

It's funny.

Judging by this thread, who knew blokes were so sensitive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH85IBeXhxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lPae96ezo

John Voltage haha

Dragan · 20-10-2008 3:44pm

zAbbo wrote: »

Judging by this thread, who knew blokes were so sensitive

Oh yeah, i keep forgetting i'm supposed to either be a robot or a cave man.

People should really remind me more.

Doctor DooM · 20-10-2008 3:46pm

zAbbo wrote: »

Radio 1 (UK) used to do the flirt divert number, and some of the voicemails and texts were brilliant.

It's funny.

Judging by this thread, who knew blokes were so sensitive

Nothing to do with the sensitivity of men, if reflects very poorly on the people who think the public humiliation of an unknowing person is funny.

*Gets off sopabox*

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:01pm

Dragan mentions the word robot and suddenly SDoom arrives. Hmmmm...

Dinter · 20-10-2008 4:05pm

Galvasean wrote: »

If someone was so harsh as to do that to me just because 'she wasn't that into' me I wouldn't hesitate hunt them down and make them suffer.

Yeah, their transcript might appear on page 14 one day but you can be damn sure their brutal slaying and dismemberment will make page 1 the next.

Seriously though there are people who take public rejection / humiliation pretty badly:

Wayne Forester: Killed wife over facebook.
Svetlana Orlova: Killed after refusing on air proposition.
and that lad who killed the man who fancied him in the US.

It'd be pretty tragic (and very, very unlucky) if you gave the number to someone who can't take a joke / humiliation and tbh if you've only met them once you don't really have a clue about them.

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:09pm

Dinter wrote: »

Yeah, their transcript might appear on page 14 one day but you can be damn sure their brutal slaying and dismemberment will make page 1 the next.

Seriously though there are people who take public rejection / humiliation pretty badly:

Wayne Forester: Killed wife over facebook.

Actually there was a lot more to it than Facebook. You just need to avoid reading tabloids (the 'Youtube killer' was another recent tabloid oversimplification).

And it was so nice of you to lump me in with the murderers because I mentioned that I'd get my own back on someone who did such a thing to me.

stovelid · 20-10-2008 4:11pm

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I think this is an ugly horrible idea.

From an ugly, horrible paper. Would be interesting if somebody took legal action.

Doctor DooM · 20-10-2008 4:11pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Dragan mentions the word robot and suddenly SDoom arrives. Hmmmm...

Hey, I'm not the one with a robot as my avata-

Oh, carry on.

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:14pm

stovelid wrote: »

From an ugly, horrible paper. Would be interesting if somebody took legal action.

That was what I was hinting at in my original post. Unfortunately some posters here seem to have jumped to the conclusion that I was going to become an overnight killer! :pac:
I bet they wouldn't be so smug if they got about 50 lawsuits coming their way. Although it begs the question, who would the guy sue, the paper or the girl?

stovelid · 20-10-2008 4:17pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Although it begs the question, who would the guy sue, the paper or the girl?

I would have thought it was like being framed on something like Naked Camera: you had to give permission for them to use it?

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:20pm

Well the papers could get away with having to ask for permission by calling it 'news'.

SarahJ · 20-10-2008 4:21pm

No one ever askes for my number

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:24pm

SarahJ wrote: »

No one ever askes for my number

Have you a reputation for publicly humiliating people? :pac:

SarahJ · 20-10-2008 4:24pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Have you a reputation for publicly humiliating people? :pac:

Oh so that's the reason

Dinter · 20-10-2008 4:25pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Actually there was a lot more to it than Facebook. You just need to avoid reading tabloids (the 'Youtube killer' was another recent tabloid oversimplification).

And it was so nice of you to lump me in with the murderers because I mentioned that I'd get my own back on someone who did such a thing to me.

Honest to God I'm just going to randomly scatter my posts with smilies from now on to explain things for the flagellators that seem to be breeding on boards lately. Obviously I'm not "lumping" you anywhere. Use of the word "seriously" later in the post would imply that I wasn't being serious beforehand. You with me so far?

Also, btw you should probably be aware that it was the defence who claimed Facebook had a bearing on the case. Now unless the tabloids had the lawyer attached to wires and had a skilled ventriloquist speaking for him it's pretty apparent that it's his idea not theirs.

From now on you just need to ensure you read something to get a clearer picture of things.

To sum up.

As you can see there's no angry face here so that should explain things without you actually having to go to the effort of reading the post.

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:32pm

You made your point Dinter, no need to get condescending.

shellyboo · 20-10-2008 4:45pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Well the papers could get away with having to ask for permission by calling it 'news'.

You can't quote anyone without their permission, and you certainly can't record anyone without their permisson - which is what this is tantamount to. If newspapers went around randomly quoting people without permission, they'd be getting sued every day. Tabloids DO go around randomly doing this, and regularly get sued - but have a dedicated 'war chest' of funds to deal with the law suits. It's so commonplace that you never, ever hear about it - and as well, what paper would report it?!

The issue with this is, what regular bloke has the financial means to go suing the Herald? That's why they'll get away with it. It's all very well for the Beckhams to go suing for invasion of privacy and libel and the like... but I doubt most guys would be so incensed that they'd bother. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's chip wrapper.

Dragan · 20-10-2008 4:48pm

shellyboo wrote: »

The issue with this is, what regular bloke has the financial means to go suing the Herald? That's why they'll get away with it. It's all very well for the Beckhams to go suing for invasion of privacy and libel and the like... but I doubt most guys would be so incensed that they'd bother. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's chip wrapper.

Depends. If you can find one willing to work for a percentage of damages, which is a pretty sure thing when suing a news paper infairness.

They just tell their legal team to settle most of the time.

shellyboo · 20-10-2008 4:53pm

Dragan wrote: »

Depends. If you can find one willing to work for a percentage of damages, which is a pretty sure thing when suing a news paper infairness.

They just tell their legal team to settle most of the time.

But how many random punters are going to know or care about that? I certainly didn't know! Presumably it's anonymously quoted, so the guys in question may not ever know that it's happened... that's why the legality of it is such a minor concern for them, I'd imagine.

Galvasean · 20-10-2008 4:55pm

shellyboo wrote: »

But how many random punters are going to know or care about that? I certainly didn't know! Presumably it's anonymously quoted, so the guys in question may not ever know that it's happened... that's why the legality of it is such a minor concern for them, I'd imagine.

True. Factor in the likelihood of them reading said paper that day, not to mention reading said article. The paper probably feel quite safe from legal action.

PeakOutput · 20-10-2008 4:59pm

assuming the paper are not idiots there are no grounds for legal action

firstly when you leave a message on a voicemail you know you are being recorded

also the recording without permission thing is a joke judges have in the past admitted recordings of people implicating themselves when the people didnt know they were being recorded

secondly no1 is saying that these guys are going to be named and shamed the transcripts will simply be printed with at MAX a first name. for there to be grounds for a lawsuit someone has to know its about you personally.

i think its a bit distastefull and i reckon i could see the type of girls who would give out this type of number a mile away (same ones that read these ****e papers) but its pretty harmless

im not a solicitor so if one corrects me on these points i bow down to there wisdom

shellyboo · 20-10-2008 5:06pm

PeakOutput wrote: »

assuming the paper are not idiots there are no grounds for legal action

firstly when you leave a message on a voicemail you know you are being recorded

In media law, as far as I'm aware, you cannot record, or quote a recording of a person in broadcast or print without their explicit permission to do so. I'm not 100% sure, all I know is what I've been told as a journo! I have to tell everyone when I'm recording them on the phone - and I record every interview to cover my own ass.

PeakOutput wrote: »

also the recording without permission thing is a joke judges have in the past admitted recordings of people implicating themselves when the people didnt know they were being recorded

Is that in criminal cases maybe? All I know is that if I don't tell someone I'm recording them with an intention of quoting them, I personally am liable to get sued.

PeakOutput wrote: »

assuming the paper are not idiots there are no grounds for legal action

Ahem, that's an awful big assumption to make considering we're talking about the Herald...

cuckoo · 20-10-2008 6:15pm

Dragan wrote: »

The interesting thing is that no doubt some women will think it funny to lead blokes on and then give them this number.

It should be noted any such women are whores.

Nah, whores are honest about what they do.

I think the type of women that would think this funny would be the unthinking, empowered by 'sex and the city', unempathetic wagons who think 'treat em mean keep em keen' is a valid credo. The type of woman who thinks "how dare HE approach ME? SO not worthy, omg".

Irish dating and mating can be crap enough an experience without rags like herald am trying to make fools out of people.

amz5 · 20-10-2008 8:38pm

I can't believe that people would go to the trouble of learning a fake number like that. God...It's kinda pointless to get your kicks like that. However there are a lot of guys out there who are really annoying and deserving of stuff like that. The ones who take your phone from you to ring their phone so that they have your number, or take your friend's phone to get it. Now they deserve their comeuppance, but I doubt it it's guys like that who end up being made fools out of.

I also have a friend who has been plagued by a guy for months. She gave him her number one night, then started seeing someone a few days later. Cue months of texts/phone calls from him despite setting him straight. Once again, I don't think it's guys like this who are being caught out.

It seems unnecessarily cruel. What happened to just saying no...

EamonnKeane · 21-10-2008 1:48am

monkeyfudge wrote: »

What's the number? I'll ring it up now.. I'm sure I can come up with some interesting messages for it.

I'd say most of them are sent in as fakes. Or made up by the newspaper.

robtri · 21-10-2008 7:51am

I KNow FM104, the strawberry alarm clock did this a while ago, and thats how a guy got a weekly spot on the show and is still on with them in 2FM now... I believe that this one was a fake...

anybody male or female who goes out of their way to publically humiliate someone is just the lowest of the low and deserves a good

SMACK!!!

Mr. Incognito · 21-10-2008 8:38am

Anyone have the number?

I could have fun with this.

And the Herald will print ANYTHING.

Time to give the people what they want.

Creepy Caller - Herald AM

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