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Being overtaken when doing the speed limit

  • 18-10-2008 11:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone else hate this? When I was learning to drive and had my L-plates up, I was overtaken once or twice a day on a 60kph road where I was doing exactly 60kph.

    Since I've passed my test and taken down the plates it happens less often, but it still happens. Sooo annoying.
    It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it, as if they're too good to drive the same speed as the rest of us.

    In fact at one stage I could look in my mirror and the car behind me and predict whether they'd overtake me or not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    As long as thet're not drunk Austrian politicans, I wouldn't worry.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    To make it more amusing for yourself, you should also speed up and try to stop them getting back in....especially if there is oncoming traffic! Loads of lulz guaranteed...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Nothing is more hilarious than high speed carnage alright.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd much rather be safely behind those people. Where I'm in control.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    I'd much rather be safely behind those people. Where I'm in control.

    Control, my dear moonbaby, is a dangerous illusion to believe in.

    Pretty deep for AH eh?
    Thats right.
    I have more hidden depths than Michael Barrymore's new swimming pool.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    once he doesnt flash his lights behind ya i think your grand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    DarkJager wrote: »
    To make it more amusing for yourself, you should also speed up and try to stop them getting back in....especially if there is oncoming traffic! Loads of lulz guaranteed...

    I was nearly killed by some idiot doing this. He was pottering along at ~60kmph on a 100 stretch, I went to overtake and he put the hammer down. I literally had to race him to get back in as the car behind me had moved up too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Re-overtake, and take your foot off the accelerator for a bit whilst flashing your flashers and rear fogs and bake lights.

    I accept no responsibility for any harm you may come to as a result of my suggestions. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I couldn't careless if someone wants to over take me, I'm not a traffic cop - ain't my job to worry about 'em.

    Oh, and what Moonbaby said too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    nah this doesn't bother me at all. one thing that's very annoying is when you pull out to overtake some slowcoach and he decides to speed up to stop you. that's so juvenile.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    nah this doesn't bother me at all. one thing that's very annoying is when you pull out to overtake some slowcoach and he decides to speed up to stop you. that's so juvenile.
    Best defence is to premptively clip their rear as you overtake, forcing them into a wall.

    That'll learn 'em.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,641 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Oh carry balloons with oil in them. Throw them out the window in front and see what happens. When they do overtake, swing your door open as theyre beside you. Then, if that doesnt prevent them, you are left with 1 option. Front missiles FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Mark200 wrote: »
    It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it,


    its common knowledge that you must have a licence to drive a car, in BMW owners cases, its an asshole licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Don't get me started on BMW drivers....the only difference between a hedgehog and a BMW is what side the pricks are on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    We have two BMW's.

    We're better than you all, get out of our way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Mena wrote: »
    We have two BMW's.

    We're better than you all, get out of our way.

    q.e.d.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭gebbel


    Audi drivers are no better. Show offs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭bluemachaveli


    What annoys me is on a small back rd., faced with a 08 bmw*. I keep into my side, but no his bmw is too good to come near the ditch! It must remain in the centre of the rd. at all times! Forcing anything in it's way to go hill climbing!


    *Also applies to mercs/jags!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    DarkJager wrote: »
    To make it more amusing for yourself, you should also speed up and try to stop them getting back in....especially if there is oncoming traffic! Loads of lulz guaranteed...

    Your the most stupid idiot on these forums. How's that feel? Proud? Good stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    gebbel wrote: »
    Audi drivers are no better. Show offs

    Yeah I agree.

    Saying that, my dad has just bought an Audi but he really is a show off. He would actually be one of the drivers that I talked about that would overtake me. Countless times I've been in the car with him and he does 80 in 60 zones. One time he was up to 100kph and I just had to say "You know you're doing 100kph in a 60kph zone don't you?". Ugh
    gpf101 wrote: »
    Your the most stupid idiot on these forums. How's that feel? Proud? Good stuff.

    bit harsh...It was clearly a joke


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Your the most stupid idiot on these forums. How's that feel? Proud? Good stuff.

    You're obviously the stupid one,who can't structure his grammar properly. I feel quite fine actually. Now why don't you take your faux shock horror and run along....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    gpf101 banned for a week for personal abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭hopalong85


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Saying that, my dad has just bought an Audi but he really is a show off. He would actually be one of the drivers that I talked about that would overtake me. Countless times I've been in the car with him and he does 80 in 60 zones. One time he was up to 100kph and I just had to say "You know you're doing 100kph in a 60kph zone don't you?". Ugh

    omg. this one time, i was on a dual carriageway in a non residential area with no schools that was completely safe and had a 60kph limit. i went 80kph on it. omg i'm such a sick person and bad driver. ugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    I dont mind being overtaken when Im doing the speed limit. It really doesnt bother me unless 1. The person overtaking me is putting me in danger somehow (ie: overtaking on blind bend, or overtaking with not enough time to do so and having to squeeze back kin in front of me and the car in front of me. or 2. They start blowing the horn and giving me abuse about being too slow.


    I know its bad driving practice, and I would never do this if there were someone coming the other way, but sometimes if a real ignorant person, or a boy racer tries to overtake me, I immediately speed up and force them to retreat back behind me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    hopalong85 wrote: »
    omg. this one time, i was on a dual carriageway in a non residential area with no schools that was completely safe and had a 60kph limit. i went 80kph on it. omg i'm such a sick person and bad driver. ugh.

    Well i think doing it constantly is a pretty dangerous thing.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭mac123


    peanuthead wrote: »
    or overtaking with not enough time to do so and having to squeeze back kin in front of me and the car in front of me.


    this shouldnt be an issue as you should be leaving plenty of room between yourself and the person in front...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I have more problems with drivers who don't even attempt to reach the speed limit. I followed someone a couple of days ago, who sometimes managed to reach 55kmph on an 80kmph road. Although the road was perfectly straight and wide, the local council deemed it necessary to paint a single white line along most of the length of it.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mark200 wrote: »
    bit harsh...It was clearly a joke



    and a funny one, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Does anyone else hate this?

    Can't say that I'm affected by people overtaking me. Although, I do get a little irritated when people overtake and cut in it front of me. I like to leave a gap between myself and the next car incase I have to hit the breaks hard, but I hate it when some gobsh*ite takes the space.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    mac123 wrote: »
    this shouldnt be an issue as you should be leaving plenty of room between yourself and the person in front...

    If you are keeping up a good speed, in rhythm with the person in front of you and next of all someone just cuts in in front of you, that is dangerous. Theres no two ways about it. Im thinking of a particular incident here, and there was plenty of room between me and the other car in front of me, we were both keeping a steady speed, until I have to brake suddenly because this woman, who had decided to overtake me, and was striving to overtake the car in front of me, jumps in infront of me at the last minute.

    In my original post, squeezed was probably the wrong word to use, as it implied I was right up behind the other driver.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,658 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Actually darkjager somebody came very close to killing me by doing that - it's not cool it's like the lowest form of scum and it says a whole lot about you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭stringy


    what bothers me is when people arent driving near the speed limit, like last night, car in front doin 55 in an 80 then has the cheek to flash their warning lights at me as I arrived behind, i was like hurry the f:ck up!!

    dont mind bein overtaken when doin speed limit, in many cases I often hope the car ends up in a ditch...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    check out http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57618064
    and no i dont drive a BMW :)

    Wait until you stuck behind some ^**! doing 140kph in a 120kph zone !
    like if your breaking the law then do it in style or get out of the way of the people who want to hit 160 or 180 !!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Does anyone else hate this? When I was learning to drive and had my L-plates up, I was overtaken once or twice a day on a 60kph road where I was doing exactly 60kph.

    Since I've passed my test and taken down the plates it happens less often, but it still happens. Sooo annoying.
    It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it, as if they're too good to drive the same speed as the rest of us.

    In fact at one stage I could look in my mirror and the car behind me and predict whether they'd overtake me or not

    i hate you more than i hate them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Most road speeds in Ireland are a joke, i know plenty of places where speed limits are either way too high or way too low


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Most road speeds in Ireland are a joke, i know plenty of places where speed limits are either way too high or way too low

    I agree, not really a fan of getting penalty points though. My insurance is expensive enough already


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Does anyone else hate this? When I was learning to drive and had my L-plates up, I was overtaken once or twice a day on a 60kph road where I was doing exactly 60kph.

    Since I've passed my test and taken down the plates it happens less often, but it still happens. Sooo annoying.
    It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it, as if they're too good to drive the same speed as the rest of us.

    In fact at one stage I could look in my mirror and the car behind me and predict whether they'd overtake me or not

    Look after your own driving. And mind your own fv<king business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,247 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Actually darkjager somebody came very close to killing me by doing that - it's not cool it's like the lowest form of scum and it says a whole lot about you :)

    I refer to it as "Attempted Murder", or "Murder" if the joker actually succeeds in causing a head-on. There are some people who see driving as a power struggle, and think that they should be ones at the front, no matter how fast they're going. They think it's a huge laugh, trying to stop someone getting back in again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Actually darkjager somebody came very close to killing me by doing that - it's not cool it's like the lowest form of scum and it says a whole lot about you :)

    Its say a lot about you that you still haven't figured out, 3 pages into the thread, that I was taking the piss.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    My general opinion of mind is that If they are imcompentant enough to do something stupid then i would much prefer them in front of me where i can give them all the room they like to do what ever they want. you can control how far behind them you are, not the other way around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Does anyone else hate this? When I was learning to drive and had my L-plates up, I was overtaken once or twice a day on a 60kph road where I was doing exactly 60kph.

    Since I've passed my test and taken down the plates it happens less often, but it still happens. Sooo annoying.
    It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it, as if they're too good to drive the same speed as the rest of us.

    In fact at one stage I could look in my mirror and the car behind me and predict whether they'd overtake me or not

    bet you're one of these people who thinks cruising at the speed limit on the outside lane on a mototway is just grand too.

    If someone wants to overtake you, let them, not your problem , you clearly have a speed envy issue and a fear of "high" speeds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    growler wrote: »
    bet you're one of these people who thinks cruising at the speed limit on the outside lane on a mototway is just grand too.

    If someone wants to overtake you, let them, not your problem , you clearly have a speed envy issue and a fear of "high" speeds

    No, well I haven't driven on the motorway yet (got my licence just over a week ago :p) but I have a fair bit of driving experience and always drove in the left lane on the N something something (the one that goes to ratoath (?)) where the speed limit is 120 kph (I was doing 120 kph :P). I only went into the other lane to overtake someone twice (1 was a truck going extremely slow, another was another learner going 100kph).

    I just really don't see what the rush is that they have to break the speed limit to overtake me so that they can be sitting a metre or two ahead of me when I end up stopped behind them at the next traffic lights anyway...?



    On another note, what is wrong with "cruising at the speed limit on the outside lane"?. You're not supposed to go over the speed limit overtaking someone anyway, so I don't see why you'd give someone grief for it? I know you're supposed to "cruise" in the inner most lane, but as I said....what's the big rush that you need to go over the speed limit anyway.

    It's there for a reason (although as said....some roads are stupidly marked, but that's something that has to be put up with and you should't blame the driver in front for obeying it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    errr mate there isnt a road that goes to Ratoath thats 120kph :)
    the new N2 goes to ashbourne which is 120k, and you can take an R road which is like 80k all the way ! :)
    the N3 is only 100k to the best of my memory.


    taking the mick :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Rabble rabble rabble.

    Drive at your own speed OP, let everyone else get on with their own business. Just don't be an arse and intentionally get in the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    notsamhail wrote: »
    errr mate there isnt a road that goes to Ratoath thats 120kph :)
    the new N2 goes to ashbourne which is 120k, and you can take an R road which is like 80k all the way ! :)
    the N3 is only 100k to the best of my memory.


    taking the mick :)

    The N2, that's the one (sorry if I didn't give geo-perfect directions), I just said Ratoath because that was my destination whenever I was driving on it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    Mark200 wrote: »
    No, well I haven't driven on the motorway yet (got my licence just over a week ago :p) but I have a fair bit of driving experience and always drove in the left lane on the N something something (the one that goes to ratoath (?)) where the speed limit is 120 kph (I was doing 120 kph :P). I only went into the other lane to overtake someone twice (1 was a truck going extremely slow, another was another learner going 100kph).

    I just really don't see what the rush is that they have to break the speed limit to overtake me so that they can be sitting a metre or two ahead of me when I end up stopped behind them at the next traffic lights anyway...?



    On another note, what is wrong with "cruising at the speed limit on the outside lane"?. You're not supposed to go over the speed limit overtaking someone anyway, so I don't see why you'd give someone grief for it? I know you're supposed to "cruise" in the inner most lane, but as I said....what's the big rush that you need to go over the speed limit anyway.

    It's there for a reason (although as said....some roads are stupidly marked, but that's something that has to be put up with and you should't blame the driver in front for obeying it)


    I'll quite happily pass you at whatever speed i feel comfortable with if i think its safe to do so regardless of how fast you are going.

    I like to get places as quickly as I safely can , on a long clear stretch of road someone travelling at 100 kph is perfectly entitled to do so, when i'm in the same situation and not in a rush i'll move over to let others get past me as easily as possible .. common courtesy .. and if someone is driving recklessly i'll happily get out of their way so they won't be near me when / if they do crash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Mark200 wrote: »


    On another note, what is wrong with "cruising at the speed limit on the outside lane"?.

    You're hindering the progress of following drivers...what speed limit they choose to travel at is none of your concern, particularly if they're overtaking or attempting to overtake you (it may be of some concern if they're the type of asshole that likes to sit 2 metres from your rear bumper).
    This attitude of "Oh I'm doing 120kmph and all those naughty people behind me flashing their lights can just ease up on the juice and stick to the limit" is going to cause accidents on the motorways and DCs...blocking the overtaking lane by not clearing it once you're past the vehicle(s) on the inside leads to tailgating, frustration and undertaking in the inside lane.
    If I or anyone else decide to break the limit then it's not for anyone else (except the gardaí) to take us to task. Doing 140 or 150kmph when conditions are safe and the traffic is right (ie no-one sitting in the outside lane) isn't dangerous...it's dickheads merging at half the speed limit, those who fail to indicate whilst changing lanes and lorry drivers with their limiters switched off who are a lot more likely to cause an incident (like the one on the M1 at Dunleer on wed morning which more or less closed the road for 2 hours).
    Yopu mention you just passed your test recently, hence you're now allowed out on the mway legally...even though you've never driven on it before and haven't been coached in how to do so...it's best that you follow the RotR and obey lane etiquette, instead of worrying abot what other drivers choose to do with their cars...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    bigkev49 wrote: »
    Rabble rabble rabble.

    Drive at your own speed OP, let everyone else get on with their own business. Just don't be an arse and intentionally get in the way.

    ^ Rock of sense.
    Man, if only every driver on our roads thought like this, my driving experience would be so much freer.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stringy wrote: »
    what bothers me is when people arent driving near the speed limit, like last night, car in front doin 55 in an 80 then has the cheek to flash their warning lights at me as I arrived behind, i was like hurry the f:ck up!!

    dont mind bein overtaken when doin speed limit, in many cases I often hope the car ends up in a ditch...

    At lease he had the sense to realize that he was a slow moving hazard, if more did the same, there would be fewer rear ended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Wertz wrote: »
    Yopu mention you just passed your test recently, hence you're now allowed out on the mway legally...even though you've never driven on it before and haven't been coached in how to do so...it's best that you follow the RotR and obey lane etiquette, instead of worrying abot what other drivers choose to do with their cars...

    I was planning to....

    I mentioned how I do what I'm supposed to do on the N2, which is more or less a motorway for all intents and purposes.

    I started this topic to say how I find it annoying when someone (usually in a BMW) finds it necessary to overtake me when I'm doing the speed limit on a two-laned road (one in each direction) and when we always just meet eachother at the next traffic lights anyway

    I don't particularly care that they are breaking the speed limit. I wouldn't particularly care if the fact that they decided to go so fast to overtake me (I got the sense people felt it more necessary to overtake me because of the L plates and not because of my driving) caused their nice new BMW to skid off the road into a brick wall allowing me to continue on my merry way.

    I didn't aim my post at those who occasionally break the speed limit on the M50 when it is perfectly safe to do so, I was aiming it at those who go out of their way to break the speed limit on a road where there are bends every 200 metres to simply say that I FIND IT A LITTLE BIT ANNOYING

    And you can't deny that there are drivers out there who do do that.


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