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Peter Kay's new show next month on Channel 4

  • 27-09-2008 10:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,183 ✭✭✭✭


    Just saw an advertisement for Peter Kay's new show on Channel 4.

    Britain's Got The Pop Factor ... And Possibly A New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly On Ice

    And yes, that's the actual title. It's gonna be a 3 hour spoof sitcom (assumed it'll be 6 seperate episodes of 30 minutes) on reality TV, the contestants that audition and the process.

    I love Peter Kay.. his standup was fantastic, and the majority of the stuff he wrote was excellent (though Max & Paddy really didn't live up to Phoenix Nights). But the ad for this left me all a bit underwhelmed.. and cringing. There's certainly plenty of material in the idea of spoofing reality shows but the advertisement just didn't look too promising.

    Still, it should be at least worth a watch!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Hope this is good .. don't forget to bump this nearer the time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭homerjk


    If its anything like his skit-doc on the road side services ill be delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    homerjk wrote: »
    If its anything like his skit-doc on the road side services ill be delighted.

    +1 that whole series was majorly under-rated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I hope it works, but I've a feeling that some of whats happened in RealityTV in the last 6 years is beyond spoof/satire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I hope it works, but I've a feeling that some of whats happened in RealityTV in the last 6 years is beyond spoof/satire.
    Exactly, sometimes it's just too difficult to spoof/satire the ridiculous, it's actually one of the reasons why Spitting Image was cancelled, the Politicians were just outdoing anything the script writers could think up.

    Hopefully it'll be good though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Phew!

    On Sunday at 8 pm a one off parody of the whole hidious X Factor shtick.

    Trailer

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,183 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Yep, looking forward to this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ooops! Thread merge anyone?

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,183 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    mike65 wrote: »
    Ooops! Thread merge anyone?

    Mike
    At your request! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Banging.
    Love Peter Kay.
    Cheers for the heads up Basquille


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    homerjk wrote: »
    If its anything like his skit-doc on the road side services ill be delighted.

    I missed that. What was it called?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Bump, some good gags, I bet peeps have come in halfway though and think its real ;)

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    From the audition scene

    Oh ****, I brought the wrong fcuking dog."

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Kays NI accent was the straw that broke the camels back and made me change channel...

    I get what he's trying to do, ripping the piss out of those type of programmes, but even parodies of those programmes seem to annoy me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    This is total garbage, hopefully it will finish Petes career, those who said you were nothing without Spikey will have their cigars out right now. I mean does the twit not know that the shows he is spoofing are beyond parody and get this they are actually funnier than this ****ing ****.
    Oh look Rick Astley, Home and Away wow I remember that as well, seriously write some jokes man!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,786 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Jesus, who sucked the jam out of your doughnut?

    Some good gags and parodies. But you suspect that this is Kay's private joke being beamed into our living rooms. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    That Dead Set thing they advertised looks interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    That Dead Set thing they advertised looks interesting.

    Yeah it looks deadly. First time I have seen the ad for it.

    Does anybody else think that one of the husbands in the 2 Up 2 Down group looks like Mario Rosenstock from Gift Grub fame?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭Aussie Sean


    Thought it was marvellous myself!!!

    Laughed all the way through

    Sean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Cazlou


    Some gas bits in it alright! You have to take it for what it is - a bit of light entertainment for a sunday evening.
    Paul McCartney playing the Home and Away theme tune?! Who'd've thunk it!:eek::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,183 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Wasn't too impressed with it myself.. and I've loved pretty much everything Kay has done.

    Some funny gags.. but some of it just fell flat. Not to mention the distinct lack of any real comedic presence (bar Peter Kay).
    Rjd2 wrote: »
    those who said you were nothing without Spikey will have their cigars out right now. I mean does the twit not know that the shows he is spoofing are beyond parody and get this they are actually funnier than this ****ing ****.
    Oh look Rick Astley, Home and Away wow I remember that as well, seriously write some jokes man!
    What are you on about?! Who said he was "nothing without Spikey"? Really doubt anyone did!

    Spikey wrote a few episodes of Phoenix Nights with Peter and Neil Fitzmaurice.. and Spikey played support to Peter on his tours. So technically without Kay, Spikey would be nothing. And hasn't he vanished now that himself and Peter aren't working together anymore? I mean I did enjoy him as a team captain on 8 Out Of 10 Cats and his "ha-larious real-life stories with a predictable punchtime"... and he has a bright future on that show. Oh wait, he isn't on it anymore. Someone saw sense so.

    If you don't find Peter funny, that's fair enough.. but plenty of people do. And while this is not his crowning achievement, he's had more than enough, and plenty more than Dave Spikey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    basquille wrote: »
    Wasn't too impressed with it myself.. and I've loved pretty much everything Kay has done.

    Some funny gags.. but some of it just fell flat. Not to mention the distinct lack of any real comedic presence (bar Peter Kay).


    What are you on about?! Who said he was "nothing without Spikey"? Really doubt anyone did!

    Spikey wrote a few episodes of Phoenix Nights with Peter and Neil Fitzmaurice.. and Spikey played support to Peter on his tours. So technically without Kay, Spikey would be nothing. And hasn't he vanished now that himself and Peter aren't working together anymore? I mean I did enjoy him as a team captain on 8 Out Of 10 Cats and his "ha-larious real-life stories with a predictable punchtime"... and he has a bright future on that show. Oh wait, he isn't on it anymore. Someone saw sense so.

    If you don't find Peter funny, that's fair enough.. but plenty of people do. And while this is not his crowning achievement, he's had more than enough, and plenty more than Dave Spikey.

    Kay wrote Phoenix Nights with Spikey and Neil Fitzmaurice so Phoenix Nights greatness simply cannot be put down to Kay no matter how significant his contribution was. it’s a bit of a coincidence do you not think that Kay’s work began to dip dramatically without those two you do remember Max And Paddy and now this? Neither are exactly comic masterpieces. David Spikey by the way done a TV show called Dead Man Weds which was really good but got axed after one season after rubbish ratings which was a shame.
    Anyways this picked up in the second part which was not saying much but the humour was crude and predictable “Black Cocks” and “Do you have a dick? “ lines were not to endearing. Their was tons of other things wrong with it as well, Kay’s northern accent slipped numerous times, the three judges really are rubbish comic actors and the whole thing had very little sting at all. Anyways another poster on another board put it more succinctly then I could…
    Awful.

    Initially, the fairly accurate way that The X Factor's ridiculously extravagant graphics and announcements was depicted made me wonder if there might have been something in it. Then 'R Wayne' appeared - the name isn't funny in the first place, but that seemed to be the only gag for about fifteen minutes (if you don't count the oh so hilarious 'dead grandmother' bit). 2 Up 2 Down were mildly amusing, and I did chuckle when they were hoisted up on wires, but that was my sole laugh the whole time and it was a fairly cheap one. Kay's character was simply not funny at all, and when that was over it got even worse... "proceed will be going to crippled pole dancers"? Jesus wept.

    I don't really know what the point of it all was - were they trying to make a 'more ridiculous' version of The X Factor? Because they didn't come close. Were they trying to make us realise that The X Factor uses unsubtle emotional manipulation? Er, well - we all knew that. Or were they just trying to 'have a bit of fun' with it all? 'Cos it was ****.

    Get back to going on about Ceefax and Bullseye, Peter Kay. Oh no, wait - you've done that and released it on 20 DVDs already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Jesus, some people take their TV watching far too seriously altogether. I thought it was decent. Ceratinly not laugh out loud funny, but nice easy viewing at the same time. Agreed some of the acting was poor, but I think that was the point - it was meant to look tacky as f**k.

    And what can be said about Cat Deeley?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭TarfHead


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Their was tons of

    There were tons of ..
    Rjd2 wrote: »
    the three judges really are rubbish comic actors

    None of them are 'comic actors'.

    For something you, and others, did not enjoy, you seem to have spent a lot of your Sunday evening being unhappy :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,183 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Jesus.. what's this about just because we didn't enjoy it means we take our "Sunday evenings viewing too seriously"? I'm a big Peter Kay fan and I was looking forward to it for the past week, and sat down ready to enjoy it.

    But I really didn't enjoy it that much.. the scenes with Peter were the best thing about it but unfortunately we had far too much unfunny footage and cringeworthy footage of Nicki Chapman, Dr Fox, Pete Waterman, 2 Up 2 Down and R Wayne. It just wasn't that funny.. also felt there was plenty of opportunities missed out on.

    Peter Kay still remains one of my favourite comedians.. and anyone who says he can't write (or isn't anyone without Dave Spikey! :rolleyes:) should watch his stand-up DVD's because the man is a true entertainer.

    It wasn't terrible.. but it wasn't particularly great either. Passable entertainment, but definitely the least entertaining thing Kay has been involved in.

    The Winner's song - no doubt a top 10 anyways!
    TarfHead wrote:
    None of them are 'comic actors'.
    You don't need to be a comedy actor to have even the mildest comedic presence.. they tried but failed miserably. They over-acted and just made me cringe.

    Don't think the guy who played R Wayne was a comic actor either.. yet he had some comedic presence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭Boo-yah


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Get back to going on about Ceefax and Bullseye, Peter Kay. Oh no, wait - you've done that and released it on 20 DVDs already.

    :D This made me laugh quite a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    Getting the Pop Idol judges was a stroke of genius. I laughed the whole way through the show. Loved the medaly going from "Free Nelson Mandella...ella ella under my umbrella." And laughed out loud at Cat Deeley "You flew!" "They're wires Cat". And when she told the studio audience to "Fcuking shut up!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    It was fine for what it was.
    basquille wrote: »
    Peter Kay still remains one of my favourite comedians.. and anyone who says he can't write (or isn't anyone without Dave Spikey! :rolleyes:) should watch his stand-up DVD's because the man is a true entertainer.

    Spikey got writing credits on those stand up DVDs. His stand up is not without heavy allegations of joke stealing either.

    My main problem with Kay's comedy is the small frame of reference he has. This show was just an update on the Stars In Their Eyes spoof he did 10 years ago. Again Kay presents nothng actually new and relies on earlier material almost exclusively for inspiration.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭MsMolly


    gazzer wrote: »
    Yeah it looks deadly. First time I have seen the ad for it.

    Does anybody else think that one of the husbands in the 2 Up 2 Down group looks like Mario Rosenstock from Gift Grub fame?



    i thought it was mario thingy as well. It obviously wasn't but he was the image of him. i have to say it was the best laugh i had from sunday night tv since spitting image in the 80's. some of it had me in pieces, R waynes red hot chilie peppers and the idea of him singing it to grannies. lol . and the fact that pual mc cartney even agreed to appear give kay some credibility don't you think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Vixen Sexlectra


    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    I looked at it last night, for sec, thought it was real.. ha

    F**ckin deadly.. takes the PI** outta all that reality muck

    Love It
    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    I'm not sure what's gone wrong for PK. I love his standup. I can repeatedly watch Phoenix Nights. I thought 'That Peter Kay Things' was wonderfully observed as well.

    I suspect that without Spikey and Fitzmaurice he doesn't have the quality control he had before; it's not that he's less funny as such, but rather that more of the 'less funny' jokes make it into the final product, and he doesn't have to work as hard.

    the trouble is that he's not reaching the dizzy heights of Phoenix Nights; i don't, for a minute, discount the opinions of people who enjoyed last nights show(s) but I would ask them all "Have you seen Phoenix Nights?".

    THAT'S your high watermark of Kays comedic ability and since then he's been treading water. He's not without talent, but he is without the comedic foils he had previously which made him constantly raise his game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Vixen Sexlectra


    You Not think he just so attractive as that Gerdaline singer one??

    :rolleyes: Tee Hee :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Though that was absolute cack. I kept waiting for it to kick in, but it didn't. The whole thing could have been condensed into about 20 mins.

    I think it is becoming very clear that Spikey and Fitzmaurice had alot to do with the quality of Kay's earlier material. That Peter Kay thing and PN are head above shoulders anything he has done since PN wrapped up.

    There are alot of stories surfacing about Kay being an absolute cock, and that his ego has gotten the better of him. As early as 2003, Spikey had this to say:
    Interviewer: Is there any jealousy from yourself or Neil Fitzmaurice about the credit Peter seemed to take on his own for Phoenix Nights?

    Spikey: No jealousy on my part. If it wasn’t for my involvement I’d still be working at the hospital, looking down a microscope - some days I’d even switch it on! Having said that, we were pissed off that he accepted the British Comedy Award for Best Writer for Phoenix Nights when it is, as you say, scripted by the three of us. We queried why we had been excluded and were never given a satisfactory answer.

    My other main gripe with him is that his standup material hasn't changed since he realised his first DVD. Each DVD is a nigh on replica of the last, rehashing old jokes of garlic bread and uncle knobhead.

    I would love to see Kay return to the form of old, as some of his early stuff was genius. However, I feel that this has probably been made impossible by his own ego and greed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭cosgrove80


    I thought that this was a massive disappointment. Like others here I'm a big fan of Peter Kay's ( and Dave Spikey's and Neil Fitzmaurice's :)) earlier work and stand-up, so I was waiting all week for this.

    I just felt that the whole thing fell flat. One of it's major problems was that it was over-long. People are so familiar with this type of reality format that there was no need for a full length results show or even final.

    Why have them both sing the final song? It happens on the shows granted but there was no joke there, it's not funny.

    It could have been an amusing 30 to 45 mins but it was borderline torturous.

    Most people have echoed my feelings about the show so I won't repeat them but I do think the three judges should've been played by actors.

    Waterman, Chapman and Fox did the best they could but by having actors Kay could've gone to town with the idea, ramping up the pomposity and gushing praise that the judges dole out. Perhaps he felt he needed some normality to contrast the other "characters but you just felt you'd seen it all before.

    You know the bit at the end of Phoenix Nights where they audition the acts for the club? If he had managed to capture that spirit with the glossy big budget layered on top he would've been on to a winner.

    After this Kay will need his own Phoenix moment. I'm not knocking him for the sake of it, I just want Kay to regain what he had in his earlier work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭TarfHead


    cosgrove80 wrote: »
    I thought that this was a massive disappointment .. You know the bit at the end of Phoenix Nights where they audition the acts for the club? If he had managed to capture that spirit with the glossy big budget layered on top he would've been on to a winner.

    Eh ..
    - midgets on donkeys
    - 3 oul slappers doing Sugar Babes
    - saddo with dog & hoop
    - 'her mother died in that dress'

    Plus, as earlier posted, segueing from Born to Run to Born Free to Free Nelson Mandela to Umbrella.

    All nuggets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    There were some really funny bits, but most of it was cringeworthy.
    I agree with what others have said that it should have been much, much shorter.
    Loved the Rick Astley bit though, when the woman fell out of the wheelchair.
    Also loved Cat telling the audience to f'ing shut up.
    I think the trouble is that Peter Kay is starting to believe the hype a bit with his singing.
    Although saying that all three acts were a lot better then most of those on the X factor on Saturday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭cosgrove80


    TarfHead wrote: »
    Eh ..
    - midgets on donkeys
    - 3 oul slappers doing Sugar Babes
    - saddo with dog & hoop
    - 'her mother died in that dress'

    Fair enough. I guess the point I was trying to make (badly) was that it was as much the judges/panel's reaction to the acts, as the acts themselves that made it funny.

    Dr. Fox and co. just trotted out the clichés, which was part of the joke I know but if you had judges that were as ridiculous as the contestants they could have created a surreal grotesque extravaganza rather than a flaccid parody


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I enjoyed it. I was delighted to see someone put the boot in to X Factor's manufactured, sob story bullsh*t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I thought it was very funny. But think it could have been better at an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Sky + it so haven't seen it yet but single released today from the show apparently,collaboration with Gary Barlow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,326 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    watched it last night on Sky+. It had its moments, but really not worth 90 minutes of my time. The missus asked what the difference was between this and actually watching the X-Factor, and she had a point.

    Bring back Phoenix Nights!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭sundula


    I thought it was a poor show overall. I would have imagined that Kay has thrown out better material than what he used in this show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    Was disappointed myself, as has been said it was too long and I almost found myself doing what I do when myself and the wife do when watching the X-Factor, forward past all the crap to just the singing. There was enough funny moments to make a decent 1 hour show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    anybody know if this is on again or if i can download it somewhere????????


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