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The most irritating things about men....

  • 27-09-2008 7:23am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Madame Razz


    Why do men always....????

    Last night got me thinking.

    I know things we do irritate them, but things they do irritate us too.

    So heres the opportunity to vent your frustration at these annoyances ladies, from the sublime to the mundane to the ridiculous..... post them here.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Madame Razz


    I'll start the ball rolling:

    As some of you may know im single at the minute, and as the worst dates thread testifies, i'm not exactly blessed with the lucky gene when it comes to men anyway!!

    Anyhow; dates/meeting new men is something that I've been doing a fair bit of in the past year or so, and one thing really bugs me.

    Their exes.......why do some of them talk about them when its not appropriate?? Like on the first date/encounter/whatever??? Often in a derogatory way?? Why do men even bring their ex up at all initially??? I.dont.want.to.know.

    Really grinds my gears i must say....

    Men, Don't do this!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    All men look at women. Always have and always will. No problem with that as such but why do some men feel the need to comment on it? Every single time they see someone? Irritating when a male friend does it and unbeleivable when a boyfriend does it. Men if you pass twenty or more women in a day and you find them attractive well there's no need to tell us about it. Ya big overgrown child and total asshole:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    And I agree Manuka! Shut up about your ex, exes. We all have a past and you say you don't like baggage. So get rid of yours, we don't like it either.

    And football. No need to burst everyones eardrums when a goal is scored.

    V narky this morning girls:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭F.A.


    Karen_* wrote: »
    And football. No need to burst everyones eardrums when a goal is scored.

    Agreed!

    Hate to bring up the klischees, but WHY is it so difficult to put the toilet seat down?? And don't give me that rubbish that if guys are supposed to put them down, why do women not put them up - let me give you a clue: why do you think toilet seats have been invented?? Please make sure they serve their purpose - THANK YOU!

    Yeah, Karen, narky here too. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    F.A. wrote: »
    Agreed!

    Hate to bring up the klischees, but WHY is it so difficult to put the toilet seat down?? And don't give me that rubbish that if guys are supposed to put them down, why do women not put them up - let me give you a clue: why do you think toilet seats have been invented?? Please make sure they serve their purpose - THANK YOU!

    Yeah, Karen, narky here too. :D

    Urine can disinfect toilet seats...FACT :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Down with men! You should all become lesbians and have IVF, that'd solve the toilet seat thing for sure! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    F.A. wrote: »
    Agreed!

    Hate to bring up the klischees, but WHY is it so difficult to put the toilet seat down?? And don't give me that rubbish that if guys are supposed to put them down, why do women not put them up - let me give you a clue: why do you think toilet seats have been invented?? Please make sure they serve their purpose - THANK YOU!

    Yeah, Karen, narky here too. :D


    It;s the fact there are are two parts that gets me. There is a seat AND a lid and the lid is meant to be closed when the toilet it not being used.
    Fúck leaving the seat up, close the damn lid when you are done and before you flush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭St Bill


    Why do men have to have such big shoulders and hands? Taking up so much space, and helping me when I need stuff and.... and..... and mmmmmmm
    Sorry girls, I'm not at all narky this morning! :o (And I started out so well....)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Urine can disinfect toilet seats...FACT :D

    Actualy urine can corrode pipes. A landlord in Germany sued his male tenants as they kept peeing standing up & missing, corroding pipes. Don't ask me where I get these stories from.

    Also, I heard about (read: vaguely remember) a study showing that when men pee standing up, it can go as far as half a meter both sides of the toilet.

    Geh-ross!!

    Men, figure it out. Oh and clean the bathroom while you're at it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I swear someon needs to desgin a toilet seat that looking like a vulva and I bet they would line up a lot closer to the target area then, ok it might had the side effect of given them a hard on esp if they are drunk and have not had any in ages, which may make it more difficult for them to pee but they'd stand a lot closer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    taconnol wrote: »
    Actualy urine can corrode pipes. A landlord in Germany sued his male tenants as they kept peeing standing up & missing, corroding pipes. Don't ask me where I get these stories from.

    Also, I heard about (read: vaguely remember) a study showing that when men pee standing up, it can go as far as half a meter both sides of the toilet.

    Geh-ross!!

    Men, figure it out. Oh and clean the bathroom while you're at it!

    Hmm that is indeed troubling. I hereby recommend that men no longer use the toilet to take a piss as it melts things and the wimmen don't like it. Use the sink instead ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭F.A.


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    It;s the fact there are are two parts that gets me. There is a seat AND a lid and the lid is meant to be closed when the toilet it not being used.
    Fúck leaving the seat up, close the damn lid when you are done and before you flush.

    Totally agree. I absolutely hate walking into the bath seeing the toilet open. And I refer back to my point about why things have been invented. Generally, they serve a purpose, so use them accordingly.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I swear someon needs to desgin a toilet seat that looking like a vulva and I bet they would line up a lot closer to the target area then, ok it might had the side effect of given them a hard on esp if they are drunk and have not had any in ages, which may make it more difficult for them to pee but they'd stand a lot closer.

    AH but then we come onto the third main man problem with the bathroom - the amount of time they spend in there!

    A magazine or book is tucked under the arm and said male marches off, locking the door not to exit for AT LEAST 30 minutes, ignoring all pleas for entry and any wailing about the unfortunate size of the female bladder. The grand exit is normally accompanied with a turning on of the fan, shutting of the door and adamant exclamations of "you'd better not go in there for at least 10 minutes", which you will only hear if you haven't been knocked unconscious by the toxic fumes.

    If I had a vulva shaped toilet, I'd never get in there!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    It really pisses me off when they do ONE bit of housework and think their domestic gods or whatever. Well done you hoovered, would you like a gold star?
    Last week my brother tried to make to clean the kitchen because he had hoovered on Sunday....by now it was WEDNESDAY! I calmly explained all I had done since yesterday and made him clean it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭F.A.


    Never mind how long they spend in there once they make sure it doesn't smell afterwards! I don't enjoy feeling as if walking into a pig sty!

    Oh, and I am not picky about what you use to fight the odour once it isn't MY PERFUME.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    can we change the title to "the most irritating things about some men?"

    no?

    *runs and hides*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    I think we need a similar thread for men. Its fair game isn't it?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    DarkJager wrote: »
    I think we need a similar thread for men. Its fair game isn't it?

    I think they come up quite frequently in AH..?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭F.A.


    DarkJager wrote: »
    I think we need a similar thread for men. Its fair game isn't it?

    Not really, since this is the Ladies Lounge. Stick to After Hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    DarkJager wrote: »
    I think we need a similar thread for men. Its fair game isn't it?
    nah cause the boards database has it's limitations :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    DarkJager wrote: »
    I think we need a similar thread for men. Its fair game isn't it?


    Any why can men not just accept their faults and the need for a thread like this without having to do tit for tat! Why are they so petty!!:mad:

    Lads: putting an entire toilet roll down the loo and then putting the lid down does not make the blockage go away. Or fool us into thinking someone else blocked it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Karen_* wrote: »
    Any why can some men not just accept their faults and the need for a thread like this without having to do tit for tat! Why are they so petty!!:mad:

    Lads: putting an entire toilet roll down the loo and then putting the lid down does not make the blockage go away. Or fool us into thinking someone else blocked it.

    fyp :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭chickenhawk


    Karen_* wrote: »
    And I agree Manuka! Shut up about your ex, exes. We all have a past and you say you don't like baggage.

    Ah come on! Girls are always to talk about ex's!. Ye (total generalisation, sorry) are always the ones to bring up the how many people have ye been with and how many girlfriends etc etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,021 ✭✭✭LadyE


    I dontunderstand why girls get so pissed off witht he toilet seat thing..I mean its not that much effort to put it down yourself???

    Im sure men would get pissed off with always having to put it up?

    Do I not get this because I dont live with a man?? (in a boyfriends sense, my brother is temp stayin here, and I havet noticed his toilet seat habits)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    Ah come on! Girls are always to talk about ex's!. Ye (total generalisation, sorry) are always the ones to bring up the how many people have ye been with and how many girlfriends etc etc..


    This thread isn't about us!!! Stop arguing! Thats another thing about men............:mad::P:D

    Most men Cremo! :D


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Oh dear god no, not one of these threads. I'll come back when the dust settles.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Ladies,

    One can now purchase self closing toilet seats, that close when the toilet is flushed :)

    http://www.plumbingsupply.com/automatic-closing-toilet-seats.html


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    LadyE wrote: »
    I dontunderstand why girls get so pissed off witht he toilet seat thing..I mean its not that much effort to put it down yourself???

    Im sure men would get pissed off with always having to put it up?

    Do I not get this because I dont live with a man?? (in a boyfriends sense, my brother is temp stayin here, and I havet noticed his toilet seat habits)

    I'm with Thaedydal on this. You need to put the toilet lid AND seat down.

    Seriously: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/07/01/1143577.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience
    "If you flush with the lid up, a polluted plume of bacteria and water vapour erupts out of the flushing toilet bowl. The polluted water particles float for a few hours around your bathroom before they all land. Some of them will land on your tooth brush.

    Disgusting.

    Edit: And for those with a bit more time..."Up or Down? A Male Economist’s Manifesto on the Toilet Seat Etiquette" !!

    https://www.msu.edu/~choijay/etiquette.pdf


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Phlann


    Women: Completely fúcking nuts.

    Proof at last.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    OMG I was in the health shop buying my kilo of natural peanut butter and I saw manukahoney is about 45 euro a tub. MY god girl!

    Pol Pot had an interesting dilemma.

    He met a lady a few months back who , for reasons best known to herself likes him a lot, but prior that Pol Pot was single for 2 1/2 years. Prior to that Pol pot was married.
    During that single time, Pol Pot had the good fortune to date a reasonable amount of women.

    and it went something like this......

    Rule 1. Don't talk about ex.

    Ok. Cue 2nd date - "YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED....DISHONEST MAN.....BAGGAGE....WHAT WOULD MAM SAY...CATHOLIC GUILT..etc. etc....."


    So Pol Pot developed Rule 2.
    Mention the marriage but don't elaborate.
    "YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR EX.........YOU'RE NOT OVER HER..."

    or

    Interrogation on said marriage - so long conversation on Pol Pot's ex when he tried to avoid cos he is his own man with strange and engaging thoughts and stories that he'd love to share with his date far beyond the realms of his brief but all too long marriage.

    Pol Pot still loves women but you confuse him at times.
    He;d rather not talk about his ex either but sometime he is (was) made.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Don't you just hate it when you have lads over to party, and they use your toilet and splash all over the place without a thought of cleaning up after themselves! Yuk! Yuk! Yuk! Needless to say, such dudes don't get invited back again to our place!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    Don't you just hate it when you have lads over to party, and they use your toilet and splash all over the place without a thought of cleaning up after themselves! Yuk! Yuk! Yuk! Needless to say, such dudes don't get invited back again to our place!

    I grew up the only girl with four brothers. The bathroom was a terrifying place, and to enter it, it was often necessary to don a bio-hazard suit and gasmask.

    Why, oh why, in a well lit room, with a largish target area, and no physical impediment, is it so hard to actually get the aim right? Why is it ok to pee on the floor or the wall or all over the back of the loo and not feel the need to clean it up?

    And on another point, why is full possession of the remote control a male birthright?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Phlann



    Why, oh why, in a well lit room, with a largish target area, and no physical impediment, is it so hard to actually get the aim right? Why is it ok to pee on the floor or the wall or all over the back of the loo and not feel the need to clean it up?

    And on another point, why is full possession of the remote control a male birthright?

    I'll field this one:

    1. Because it doesn't always come out in a smooth, straight flow. Sometimes it goes wonky. Also, there are occasionally little bits that spray off the main jet which you don't even notice.

    There's no excuse for not cleaning up anything you do notice, though.

    2. The remote: Because girls have bad taste in... everything. Music, films, tv, food... you name it, if it's rubbish girls will try to inflict it upon you. We're just defending ourselves against Big Brother/chick flicks/Damien Rice etc


    If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    Phlann wrote: »
    I'll field this one:

    1. Because it doesn't always come out in a smooth, straight flow. Sometimes it goes wonky. Also, there are occasionally little bits that spray off the main jet which you don't even notice.

    There's no excuse for not cleaning up anything you do notice, though.

    2. The remote: Because girls have bad taste in... everything. Music, films, tv, food... you name it, if it's rubbish girls will try to inflict it upon you. We're just defending ourselves against Big Brother/chick flicks/Damien Rice etc


    If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.

    How dare you! I've never watched Big Brother :).

    I just don't see how the 'splatter effect' can cause such widespread ground cover.. I think perhaps carelessness plays a greater role than you will admit.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Why, oh why, in a well lit room, with a largish target area, and no physical impediment, is it so hard to actually get the aim right? Why is it ok to pee on the floor or the wall or all over the back of the loo and not feel the need to clean it up?

    You need to get a stick-on fly like this for your toilet.

    urinal1.jpg

    Studies showed that men improved their aim if there was a target to aim at, so some guy came up with the idea of providing a target. They do work. :)

    And on another point, why is full possession of the remote control a male birthright?

    It's got lots of buttons on it and is full of electronic circuitry, so obviously you women needn't worry your pretty little heads about something as complicated as that.

    /runs and hides from the wrath (and electronics degree) of Thaed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Phlann wrote: »
    2. The remote: Because girls have bad taste in... everything. Music, films, tv, food... you name it, if it's rubbish girls will try to inflict it upon you. We're just defending ourselves against Big Brother/chick flicks/Damien Rice etc
    Um, I'm a girl and I *hate* Big Brother, chick flicks and Damien Rice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    I grew up the only girl with four brothers. The bathroom was a terrifying place, and to enter it, it was often necessary to don a bio-hazard suit and gasmask.

    Why, oh why, in a well lit room, with a largish target area, and no physical impediment, is it so hard to actually get the aim right? Why is it ok to pee on the floor or the wall or all over the back of the loo and not feel the need to clean it up?

    And on another point, why is full possession of the remote control a male birthright?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    Cremo wrote: »

    Thank you so much. Apart from making me faint laughing, it's also made everything so much clearer. If I could blow you a kiss I would :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Zaph wrote: »
    It's got lots of buttons on it and is full of electronic circuitry, so obviously you women needn't worry your pretty little heads about something as complicated as that.

    /runs and hides from the wrath (and electronics degree) of Thaed

    /Adds rewiring all of Zaph's remote controls to electrocute him to her project list.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I grew up the only girl with four brothers. The bathroom was a terrifying place, and to enter it, it was often necessary to don a bio-hazard suit and gasmask.
    LOL! Oh your imagery is hilarious indeed!:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Pol Pot wrote: »
    OMG I was in the health shop buying my kilo of natural peanut butter and I saw manukahoney is about 45 euro a tub. MY god girl!

    Pol Pot had an interesting dilemma.

    He met a lady a few months back who , for reasons best known to herself likes him a lot, but prior that Pol Pot was single for 2 1/2 years. Prior to that Pol pot was married.
    During that single time, Pol Pot had the good fortune to date a reasonable amount of women.

    and it went something like this......

    Rule 1. Don't talk about ex.

    Ok. Cue 2nd date - "YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED....DISHONEST MAN.....BAGGAGE....WHAT WOULD MAM SAY...CATHOLIC GUILT..etc. etc....."


    So Pol Pot developed Rule 2.
    Mention the marriage but don't elaborate.
    "YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR EX.........YOU'RE NOT OVER HER..."

    or

    Interrogation on said marriage - so long conversation on Pol Pot's ex when he tried to avoid cos he is his own man with strange and engaging thoughts and stories that he'd love to share with his date far beyond the realms of his brief but all too long marriage.

    Pol Pot still loves women but you confuse him at times.
    He;d rather not talk about his ex either but sometime he is (was) made.

    I find you very intriguing brother number one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    I find you very intriguing brother number one.

    a well read man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Punchesnpeaches


    Whenever we're cranky over anything, it doesn't matter if we've reason to be, for example, we had a crappy day at work, men will inevitably ask if it's 'that time of the month?'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I swear someon needs to desgin a toilet seat that looking like a vulva and I bet they would line up a lot closer to the target area then, ok it might had the side effect of given them a hard on esp if they are drunk and have not had any in ages, which may make it more difficult for them to pee but they'd stand a lot closer.
    Well sorry to rain on the parade ladies but even when I'm the only male in the house, in spite of ALWAYS wiping up any splashback/spray on the seat, I still come along later to find pee drops on the seat => females also get pee on the seat, and from point blank FFS:rolleyes:.
    taconnol wrote: »
    AH but then we come onto the third main man problem with the bathroom - the amount of time they spend in there!

    A magazine or book is tucked under the arm and said male marches off, locking the door not to exit for AT LEAST 30 minutes, ignoring all pleas for entry and any wailing about the unfortunate size of the female bladder.
    Can't understand this either, just seems so unhygienic to be bringing the newspaper or such into the loo and then bringing it back out.
    taconnol wrote: »
    I'm with Thaedydal on this. You need to put the toilet lid AND seat down.

    Seriously: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/07/01/1143577.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience



    Disgusting.
    But unless your toilet seat and lid feature rubber seals between them and the toilet they will not prevent this cloud, only limit the height achieved, and in a small bathroom the cloud will quickly hit the walls and be partially projected upwards anyway.

    Whenever we're cranky over anything, it doesn't matter if we've reason to be, for example, we had a crappy day at work, men will inevitably ask if it's 'that time of the month?'
    Only because when it suits some of you you'll use it as an excuse for otherwise inexcusible moodiness, hence leading some of us to believe that this is the reason everytime you're gearing up for this storm in a teacup mentality.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I find women far more irritating than men. I wish women were as chilled out and low-maintenance as men.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    Not having a backbone annoys me and expecting me to mind read irritates the hell out of me, however these are traits that can be found in both sexes.

    However on topic, one annoying thing i've found with an ex in the past was the call from the pub, the oh jaysus i completely forgot, no love stop shouting, i'll be home in a minute and the hang up. all without me having said a word. :D He'd come running through the door, throw himself on the couch and ask me to rub his head because the lads had been annoying him. But of course it would have been a loss of face to say i'm tired and want to go home. the big baby. :D:D

    hate that nagging girlfriend BS. or i can't do it because she wouldn't be happy with me. grow a set of balls and say you just don't want to bloody do it. manipulative tosser. gah! i'm annoyed now. /tries to think peaceful thoughts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭cson


    I'm gonna reverse this thread for a second and get out one thing that, I won't say irritates, but certainly confuses me.

    cson invites lady on date. Date goes fantabulous. Until that is, cson attempts to pay for both parties for whatever activity requires payment, be it dinner/concert/paintballing/whatever. Lady kicks up a fuss and demands it be split both ways. cson has confuzzled look on his little face, "why is she turning down free stuff?!".

    Basically, you don't have to prove you're a liberal non-needy woman. I know you can pay if you had to. You don't have to, I invited you - its my shout. Take it. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    cson wrote: »
    I'm gonna reverse this thread for a second and get out one thing that, I won't say irritates, but certainly confuses me.

    cson invites lady on date. Date goes fantabulous. Until that is, cson attempts to pay for both parties for whatever activity requires payment, be it dinner/concert/paintballing/whatever. Lady kicks up a fuss and demands it be split both ways. cson has confuzzled look on his little face, "why is she turning down free stuff?!".

    Basically, you don't have to prove you're a liberal non-needy woman. I know you can pay if you had to. You don't have to, I invited you - its my shout. Take it. :P

    If you have spare cash around, throw it my way please. I could do with a decent dinner...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    cson wrote: »
    I'm gonna reverse this thread for a second and get out one thing that, I won't say irritates, but certainly confuses me.

    cson invites lady on date. Date goes fantabulous. Until that is, cson attempts to pay for both parties for whatever activity requires payment, be it dinner/concert/paintballing/whatever. Lady kicks up a fuss and demands it be split both ways. cson has confuzzled look on his little face, "why is she turning down free stuff?!".

    Basically, you don't have to prove you're a liberal non-needy woman. I know you can pay if you had to. You don't have to, I invited you - its my shout. Take it. :P

    I think thats really nice but I guess in my own personal experience i'd prefer to wait to know a guy a little better before having him treat me and pay for everything. I've had the unfortunate experience of a guy paying for dinner and as a result thinking that I was his "dessert" and actually being shocked that he didn't get to cop a feel of my breasticles and the rest. For me personally I prefer to keep it on an even keel for the first while anyway.


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