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Absolute bastards..

  • 24-09-2008 11:21am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Is there really words to describe the type of person who could have carried out this act on an innocent Swan, or any living thing for that matter?.

    Swan put to sleep after barbaric act

    A YOUNG swan has had to be put down after his bill was destroyed when a firework deliberately inserted into bread given to him in a Dublin park exploded.

    The “barbaric” incident occurred in the Stardust Memorial Park in Coolock, the Dublin Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals said yesterday.

    Orla Aungier of the society said it was alerted by a member of the public on Monday night that a swan in the park had an injured beak.

    A DSPCA inspector went to the scene alone but, while he could see the swan on the water, darkness meant he was unable to assess the extent of the injuries, she said. The inspector was advised by people in the park it was unsafe for him to work alone there and he left.

    When Insp Liam Kinsella went to the scene yesterday morning, he found the injuries inflicted on the 18-month-old bird were consistent with a firework and so “horrific” they could not be repaired and the bird was unable to feed. The swan was taken to the DSPCA centre in Rathfarnham and humanely put down by a vet there.

    Insp Kinsella said swans are “defenceless creatures” who give much pleasure to many people. “To see them hurt like this has made me sick.”

    Ms Aungier said the bird had severe injuries to his bill. The bottom portion had been blown away, the top bill was separated and the tongue was shredded. This was a “barbaric” act but not the first attack on swans, she said. Dogs had been set upon the birds in previous incidents.

    A number of people at the scene had said a firework was put into bread and given to the swan and subsequently exploded, she said. “The memorial park should be a gentle peaceful place but unfortunately that is not the case.’’

    She said members of the public at the scene were too fearful to disclose who was responsible for the attack but local youths were suspected. Anyone with information about the incident can contact the DSPCA or Coolock Garda station.


    I'd love to get my hands on the little bastard who done this and put a few fvcking bangers in the cvnts mouth and see how happy my little act that makes him.

    I nearly got sick with rage when I heard this on the news this morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Sick.

    They deserve to be put in prison for a few years for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    :(
    That sh1t is so upsetting and it's happening far too much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    After hours response: Typical northsiders

    Actual response: Thats fúckin sick and i do hope the cnut gets caught or worse happens to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭taibhse


    +1 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    you know what the worst part is. by highlighting what these little bastards are doing they are only going to promote the idea to other little bastards for them to do aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    It saddens me that I belong to the same species as people who do stuff like this, taking some sort of sick pleasure in inflicting pain and suffering on an innocent and harmless animal. Someone who could do something like this is likely to be more than capable of harming people aswell, and belongs in prison. A public flooging would be too good for little cnuts like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    the same thing happened in blackrock park a few years ago, terrible it was. the people who would do such a thing are the lowest of the low


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    It's times like this when I wish they could bypass laws against cruel and unusal punishment. Whoever did this should be punished publicly and severely as an example to the entire country. It's sick that attacks on animals like swans and kittens can be carried out like sport, as naturaly to the criminals as any other game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I wonder if any of the old laws regarding interfering with swans still stands. As far as I know it was punishable by death in the middle ages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Saw that in the paper. Some sick fuks out there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I tend to worry a lot about the type of mind that thinks this **** is amusing.

    If only because it is likely to breed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    A new low, makes me sick.
    Poor creature suffered all night with terrible injuries.

    And why? For kicks? Boredom? To look cool in front of the lads?
    All we hope for is they lose a hand to a dodgy firework!

    I hope someone comes forward, sure they can give the info anonymously
    KTRIC wrote: »
    I wonder if any of the old laws regarding interfering with swans still stands. As far as I know it was punishable by death in the middle ages.

    You're right, it exists or at least it did exist. Interesting thought alright. Swans belonged to the king or chieften alone from what I remember


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Am I the only one here who would walk over to the miscreants and give them a slap in the face with a motorcycle helmet had I been there at the time? This crap reminds me of the horrible shnidt that used to go on in Swords around Halloween every year, with peoples pets having to be kept in because of little scumbags. Even as a child I would have badly injured someone treating an animal in that way :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    This is a clear example of a case where I would have no problem in shutting the ****ing scumbag in the head (and I am a peaceful person).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    KTRIC wrote: »
    I wonder if any of the old laws regarding interfering with swans still stands. As far as I know it was punishable by death in the middle ages.

    Yeah the Queen used to own all the wild mute swans under the Royal Prerogative but I don't think this is one of that breed?

    Unfortunately it's also about 70 years too late now. . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭gogo


    Seriously fcuked up.. Are people gone mad, and what about the people who saw but won't speak up, just as bad imo.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Silenceisbliss


    asses....id like to shove a firework up theirs actually...

    sad...really really sad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Myxomatosis


    members of the public at the scene were too fearful to disclose who was responsible for the attack

    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    This sort of thing has to be punished with custodial sentences. End of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Agreed.

    Presumably it was done by really scummy, dangerous individuals. Have to say I freely admit I wouldn't be able to stand up to scumbags - for the simple reason I wouldn't want to gamble the possibility of them carrying a knife.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah read this in the Metro on the way to work...fucking terrible stuff. Made me angry too - little cunts need to be caught and tied to a ****ing rocket. Poor oul swan :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Myxomatosis


    Scummy individuals need to be purged from our society. Like ethnic cleansing only profound and righteous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 634 ✭✭✭nomorebadtown


    sick ****ers. purge these untermensch swine from our society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Dudess wrote: »
    Agreed.

    Presumably it was done by really scummy, dangerous individuals. Have to say I freely admit I wouldn't be able to stand up to scumbags - for the simple reason I wouldn't want to gamble the possibility of them carrying a knife.

    You don't go over and give out to them, you go over and crunch one of them in the face, the do him on the deck and watch his mates stand around like a pack of pussies because all of a sudden someone is fighting back.

    In the majority of cases the reason these guys are out of their own estates is because they are afraid of the actual criminals that are in them. It' something i noticed over the years working in Limerick. Very occassionally you would have someone about the town who was genuinely dangerous, the rest of them were just pussies who need friends to back them up and scare people.

    The simple fact of the matter though is that unless you are willing to get physical there is no real point in engaging them as they MAY be willing to take it there.

    And then there are the obvious advantages of being males over female, large over small or Mairt over most people in these situations.:)

    Bottom line is that these people are scum and cowards. Thats about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭engrish?


    Mairt wrote: »
    I'd love to get my hands on the little bastard who done this and put a few fvcking bangers in the cvnts mouth and see how happy my little act that makes him.

    I nearly got sick with rage when I heard this on the news this morning.


    They deserve the exact same. I live in constant fear this time of year that some knacker will throw a firework into the back garden where my dogs hide petrified of the noise. I hate this time of year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    She said members of the public at the scene were too fearful to disclose who was responsible for the attack but local youths were suspected. Anyone with information about the incident can contact the DSPCA or Coolock Garda station.
    So everybody stood back and watched these "scumbags" do this and then won't do anything about it. They should have dragged the kids to the nearest guard (or maybe just beat the living **** out of them seeing as the guards can't do much about it either), at the very least they should give as much information as they can.

    I think it's the general public's fault this stuff happens, ye've let your community fall into disrepair. Of course kids are going to do this stuff if there's no punishment. Nobody takes any responsibility for their community any more it's always someone else's problem.

    If I did something like that in my town I'd get ****ed from a height, eventually my mother would find out which would mean my whole family knows. People wouldn't talk to me on the street and I'd more than likely get the **** kicked out of me some night while I'm out drinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭engrish?


    TripleAce wrote: »
    This is a clear example of a case where I would have no problem in shutting the ****ing scumbag in the head (and I am a pacific person).


    I'm an Atlantic person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭GeturGun


    And unfortunately, it's never these little bastards who lose fingers or hands to fireworks.

    Here's hoping.............one day.........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Dragan wrote: »
    In the majority of cases the reason these guys are out of their own estates is because they are afraid of the actual criminals that are in them. It' something i noticed over the years working in Limerick. Very occassionally you would have someone about the town who was genuinely dangerous, the rest of them were just pussies who need friends to back them up and scare people.
    Yeah those ***** ALWAYS hang around in packs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Dragan wrote: »
    And then there are the obvious advantages of being males over female, large over small or Mairt over most people in these situations.:)

    .



    Mairt me arse... I'm injuried with a fractured rib :( - happened in the simplest way too, giving a Judo demonstration at a community centre open night.

    Anyway, the scumbags. If people here could see on my face the images of punishment I have in my mind the internet would crash :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    :(:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Mairt wrote: »
    Mairt me arse... I'm injuried with a fractured rib :( - happened in the simplest way too, giving a Judo demonstration at a community centre open night.

    Tis the price you pay for caring mate.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Just to point out that even though the article mentions "local youths" as being suspected for the crime, I don't think they mean 2 or 3 10 year olds. "Local youths" could mean 7 or 8 (or more) 15, 16 or 17 year olds and this could be why local people (who could be old) are less than enthusiastic in helping out the police.
    Not to mention even if they where caught all they'd get is a slap-on-the-wrist punishment (as opposed to the banger-in-the-mouth punishment they deserve)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Heard bout this on the wireless this morning..


    Forcefeed the little Fcukers a blackcat sandwich I say..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    gardi should be given extra powers to round up these scumbags like the f'n animals they are and take them to the dog pound to castrate them and stop them breeding, and if the parents don't come get them put them the f down :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    What I want to know is what the hell is being done about this?

    Before the last general election, I went through the policies of the various parties and examined their intentions with regard to revision of laws relating to animal rights.

    From what I could make out, only the Green Pary had any intentions of changing legislation to give more protection to animals. This included the banning of fox hunting. I voted for the Greens on this premise.

    How long have they been power and nothing done so far? Just goes to show that they're just like the rest of the useless bastards in Dáil Éireann.

    There should be a wholesale review of the sentences applicable to cruelty against animals. We have the worst record on animal rights in the EU and it's about time we started doing something about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Dragan wrote: »
    I tend to worry a lot about the type of mind that thinks this **** is amusing.

    If only because it is likely to breed.

    There is good reason to be concerned. A person who can harm an animal for fun lacks empathy, not just for anmals but almost certainly for people aswell. And people who lack empathy are potentially dangerous, at the very least capable of very anti-social behaviour but possibly worse. Some of the world's worst serial killers (the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey and David Berkowitz for example) had a history of torturing and abusing animals before they moved on to killing and torturing people.


    Dudess wrote:
    Presumably it was done by really scummy, dangerous individuals. Have to say I freely admit I wouldn't be able to stand up to scumbags - for the simple reason I wouldn't want to gamble the possibility of them carrying a knife.

    Probably just a bunch of young fcukheads thinking they're hard, and as Dragan said these type of lads are invariably only hard and tough when they're in the group. Single one of them out and he'd probably be shown up for the coward he is. Best thing to do would be take their picture as evidence and call the guards. Sadly even if prosecuted they would probably escape with minor punishment.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is cruel to eat animals too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    It is cruel to eat animals too.

    Only when their alive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    It is cruel to eat animals too.

    No its not. Its cruel to inflict unnecessary pain and suffering on a harmless animal that you've no intention of eating.

    That poor bird :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭taibhse


    kraggy
    Before the last general election, I went through the policies of the various parties and examined their intentions with regard to revision of laws relating to animal rights.

    From what I could make out, only the Green Pary had any intentions of changing legislation to give more protection to animals. This included the banning of fox hunting. I voted for the Greens on this premise.

    How long have they been power and nothing done so far? Just goes to show that they're just like the rest of the useless bastards in Dáil Éireann.


    Was only thinking the exact same thing the other day! I voted for them because of their supposed promises on these issues. What exactly have they done since getting into power. sweet feck all

    socialist party's clare daly who I didnt vote for has done more by getting circuses banned in Fingal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    One other thing, if a case like this did make it to court you'd love to see the judge make an example of the little fcukers. Send them to Mountjoy for a few months and see how tough they'd be in there. Unfortunatley the judge's hands are often tied in these situations with jail space at a premium.

    taibhse wrote: »
    Was only thinking the exact same thing the other day! I voted for them because of their supposed promises on these issues. What exactly have they done since getting into power. sweet feck all

    socialist party's clare daly who I didnt vote for has done more by getting circuses banned in Fingal

    The greens have to be the most useless political party in the history of Irish politics, and that's really saying something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Dinter wrote: »
    Yeah the Queen used to own all the wild mute swans under the Royal Prerogative

    Yes. And the reason for that is that the monarchy would traditionally eat them.


    Anyway. This sort of thing comes as no surprise to me at all. My office over looks that park. I know only too well the sort of scumbag teenagers that are on the streets here.

    They're absolute cowards too... Got in scuffle with a bunch of them only on Friday. They'll always wait until your back is turned to have a go at you and they'll always have to have a lot of their friends around. You see them on their own and they'll cross the road to avoid you.

    Plenty of tea and biscuits here if Dragan and Mairt ever want to drop around to my office.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    kraggy wrote: »
    What I want to know is what the hell is being done about this?

    Before the last general election, I went through the policies of the various parties and examined their intentions with regard to revision of laws relating to animal rights.

    From what I could make out, only the Green Pary had any intentions of changing legislation to give more protection to animals. This included the banning of fox hunting. I voted for the Greens on this premise.

    How long have they been power and nothing done so far? Just goes to show that they're just like the rest of the useless bastards in Dáil Éireann.

    There should be a wholesale review of the sentences applicable to cruelty against animals. We have the worst record on animal rights in the EU and it's about time we started doing something about it.

    There are more pressing problems than animal rights in ireland. Infact, they're pretty damn far down the list.


    Also there is nothing wrong with fox hunting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    Wow, this is a really sad story.. makes you wonder where society is going..

    And even if the guy was caught he would get a slap on the wrist because of teh retarded justice system in Ireland...

    Tbh i would have him shot..


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes. And the reason for that is that the monarchy would traditionally eat them.


    Anyway. This sort of thing comes as no surprise to me at all. My office over looks that park. I know only too well the sort of scumbag teenagers that are on the streets here.

    They're absolute cowards too... Got in scuffle with a bunch of them only on Friday. They'll always wait until your back is turned to have a go at you and they'll always have to have a lot of their friends around. You see them on their own and they'll cross the road to avoid you.

    Plenty of tea and biscuits here if Dragan and Mairt ever want to drop around to my office.

    Any idea which little ****ers did it Monkey?

    Nice to see an AH thread that shows solidarity on something like this. Absolute scum whoever attacked that poor animal - it's wierd though I think. For some reason I think it's sadder because it's a swan compared to another animal....why is that!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Any idea which little ****ers did it Monkey?

    There are just way too many of the little sh*ts who are more than capable of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    Any idea which little ****ers did it Monkey?

    Nice to see an AH thread that shows solidarity on something like this. Absolute scum whoever attacked that poor animal - it's wierd though I think. For some reason I think it's sadder because it's a swan compared to another animal....why is that!?

    I hate Swans.
    In the old days people would put a coal in an eggshell to stop dogs from stealing eggs.
    They would catch seagulls with fishing line (to eat).

    Cruelty to animals is part of our culture and it must be respected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭taibhse


    There are more pressing problems than animal rights in ireland. Infact, they're pretty damn far down the list.
    .

    Yeah but everybody in government has a job assigned to them(or so we're lead to believe) so while have Mary Hearney "working" hehe on health issues education minister "doing their thing" etc etc why can't John Gormless be doing something at the same time? These issues were stated in their policy as priorities


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