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Irish Union & Revolt Against NWO
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19-09-2008 3:51pm#1
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If your not familiar with the New World Order, F.E.M.A. Camps, RFID Chips and Americas current economic collapse and emerging police state then this one probably isn't for you.
I can almost guarantee most people on this board have a fair overview nof all the above, it kinda goes with the general territory...
Heh if you aren't interested in debating and testing the authenticity of your theories then you're already a dupe of the Greatest Conspiracy of All...Ignorance. That and the central exercise in Conspiracy Theory...endless suspicion
How do you know Zeitgeist isn't disinfo? Serious question.
Seriously, Zeitgeist is not the be all and end all, it was a loose amalgamation of a couple of pre-existent CT's, Freke and Gandy style Gnostic revivivalism, and so forth, dumbed down and with the edges knocked off. Good agitprop, fails as theory...But good luck with the union...0 -
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I call that a model hehe, an emergent one, and one I pretty much agree with.
I thought you had a specific model in mind. Simply put first thing I'd adress (if I'm fortunate enough to amass a few comrades here) is what the site should contain. My only stipulation is that initially it targets the Irish demographic rather than internationally. 0 -
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Oh noes, the webdesigners are up in arms! How will we cope when your union rises up and threatens to strike? The vital service you withdraw will cripple us! With out flash and java, society will crash and crumble around ruination, fire plague and famine, and the very pillars of western civilisation with be rent assunder.
I smiled at the semblance of humour that can be found in Diogenes' post. Indeed a mere website shall salvage the populace :rolleyes:. If this conversation were in the real world and had I not time to think I'd simply have called you a dick in a knee-jerk retort. Since I've had the oppurtunity to collect and manifest my response there won't be a need for that. Score one for civility, eh?
I geuss its time I whipped out the cliched Freudian book of all things psychoanalytical and concede to the fact that behind every angry comment theres an angry home grown spud. Tell me Diogenes, whats ticking your angry clock and what compels your bone dry wit? Is it that you see an uncredible (thats not a typo) ambitious newcomer or is it that delusionally you've conceded to the fact that none of your actions can prevent 'the ruination of society'.
Do you honestly think that the notion of a website would be the 'end' or the 'means'? A national Irish website would serve as nothing more than a vehichle. Quintessentially a vehichle of solidarity but nontheless a medium of communication. The subsequent action (or reaction rather) and unison would be the true fruit of such a site.
I joined boards.ie today and immediatley I knew I was out of my depth in terms of my authentic CT knowledge. But in that time I've proposed (actually Im crying out for) a national cohesion and collaboration...
What action(s) can you profess to? Honestly tell me what proactive steps you have taken to tackle the myriad of contemporary global conspiracies?
So far all I can only hold you with is as much regard as a nay-sayer. Do you comprensivley understand where you fall on the hierarachy of all things truthful? It goes something like this:
1. Informed benevolant activists.
2. Misinformed benevolant activists.
3. Informed benevolant inactivisits.
4. Uninformed.
5. Informed malevolant inactivisits.
6. Misformed malevolant activisits.
7. Informed malevolant activisits.
Hmm, besides impressing myself with that concise little summary it should also be evident that you fall under the lower tier right at number three. Note thats less emperical that than number two, the misinformed.
Hell, I'd rather be ever so slightly wrong and righteous rather than fully informed and passive like you.
I'm open to the fact that I may have misjudged you (I doubt it) in which case you still owe an explanation for your smart-ass comment. A subsequent smart-ass comment will not suffice.
I'm looking for men and women of Ireland, void of saracastic inhibitions mind you, who are fed up of the bull**** thats permitted to transpire in this ****ty lifetime. Its time to put or shut up. Join me or choose to hide behind your inaction. Its time to fight. All I extend is my hand, its up to ye to grasp it. :cool:
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I'm after learning so many new words from you rexusdiablos. It's a pleasure to read your posts.:D
What do you mean exactly by Irish union?
Thanks Conceited.
When I say Irish union I refer to a gathering of Irish persons who are already informed of the core conspiracies and are willing to either debunk them or fight against them. Whats the point in speculating when we can have closure? If I could get one goddamn person from boards.ie whose willing to join me then I'll be satiated. Right now, amongst my family and freinds I'm alone. I'll present the topics to them (half in gest) but no to avail.
We've already taken the first step by voting no to Lisbon. Why stop before the final hurdle?0 -
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Ah, don't let Diogenes put you off boards/ct, he just *really* doesn't like conspiracy theorists, seems to spend all his time debunking 'em, and is more of an activist than you give him credit. So play nice
He's less passive and better intentioned than you give him credit, imo.
And the last thing mutual solidarity needs is mutual b1tching, no?
The question you asked him applies to you and me and everyone else; what are we fighting, and how? Answers on postcard...0 -
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yeah but this forum is already fairly good for htat sort of thing, also on a site like boards people will feel more obliged to think out there theories a bit before just postin wild speculation as they are much more likely to be submitted to peer review and independant scrutiny based on the nature and size of the community.
anyway a new site just means one more site that Casey will be permabanned from 0 -
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Mahatma coat wrote: »NO, you are most certainly wrong there, the only way forward is to establish the core message from the beginning and never waver, being the 'one true voice crying out in the wilderness' if you need a tagline, if you attempt to use subterfuge then you are no better than the people you claim to fight, and trust me they will destroy you if you do as they have experience.
we must consistently and concisely put our points across, the more we put it out there the more people will hear the message and make up their own minds, no mater how outlandish the message initialy sounds all you have to do is inform the people and then gradualy the ideas will begin to satick in the public conciuosness.
so the most important thing now is not the formation of a new message board its the formation of a clear MESSAGE
I'm sorry Mahatma but your just being purist and naive. Ireland is but a belated Uncle Sam. Such candid advocates of the truth have come and gone and gone or exist today in abundance. Our current state of global play is indicative of unyielding societal resilience. While your correct on the requisite concise message your deliverance just won't make the grade.
Our enemies weapons are neither technological nor militant; they simply subvert. How can we expect to progress lest we harness their superior arsernal against them.
I both assure and warn you that if you pursue an honest expression of the truth then you'll fail. Kennedy did; Ron Paul is now. You'll be met with scrutiny, ridicule and dismissal. Sure you'll penetrate the psyche of a few additional folk but know that an interim subversion is the only way for mass persuasion.
While our ambitions are one and the same your means limit you to substantially limited audience. If you choose to continue to limit yourself to absolute and unflinching righteousness then your dratisically retarding your scope.
Think about it...
If we subvert its simpy to gain credibility and enhanced public relations in order to relay the truth.
When they subvert lives are a detroyed to perpetuate a lie.
Choose the lesser of two evils or forever sit on the fence of inadaquacy.
Haven't you heard? Silencing the purile righteous is their speciality. 0 -
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rexusdiablos wrote: »What action(s) can you profess to? Honestly tell me what proactive steps you have taken to tackle the myriad of contemporary global conspiracies?
Generally I just point out the problems and falsehood put forward here.
The ignorance about reality is simply staggering.So far all I can only hold you with is as much regard as a nay-sayer. Do you comprensivley understand where you fall on the hierarachy of all things truthful? It goes something like this:
1. Informed benevolant activists.
2. Misinformed benevolant activists.
3. Informed benevolant inactivisits.
4. Uninformed.
5. Informed malevolant inactivisits.
6. Misformed malevolant activisits.
7. Informed malevolant activisits.
Hmm, besides impressing myself with that concise little summary it should also be evident that you fall under the lower tier right at number three. Note thats less emperical that than number two, the misinformed.
No see you don't understand. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE NEW WORLD ORDER. THERE ISN'T SOME SHADOWY SECRET GOVERNMENT TRYING TO RULE THE WORLD.Hell, I'd rather be ever so slightly wrong and righteous rather than fully informed and passive like you.
I'm open to the fact that I may have misjudged you (I doubt it) in which case you still owe an explanation for your smart-ass comment. A subsequent smart-ass comment will not suffice.
I'm merely pointing out that a union's Raison dtre is to protect workers rights, not to fight a shadowy non exist organisation.
Furthermore if an organisation like the NWO existed, don't you think a group of web activists trying to bring them down wouldn't be swatted out of existed the moment the surfaced?I'm looking for men and women of Ireland, void of saracastic inhibitions mind you, who are fed up of the bull**** thats permitted to transpire in this ****ty lifetime. Its time to put or shut up. Join me or choose to hide behind your inaction. Its time to fight. All I extend is my hand, its up to ye to grasp it. :cool:
Wow. And my spine was truly tingled by that "Ye can run, and live, or fight and die" bit in braveheart, but the above jesus, wow.
Tell us, rex how exactly will you fight, and what exact examples of this bull**** are you fighting against, and what alternatives do you suggest?Oh and Diogenes, your a dick.
And you're reported.0 -
Very true but also bare in mind that our moustached philogical freind mentally collapsed at the feet of a flogged horse
Syphilis will do that to you
Just a note on praxis; if you are going to mount an elitist conspiracy based on subterfuge with a cadre 'in the know' with a 'Noble Lie' for the 'useful idiots' and the masses, announcing it in public *might* be a poor choice of approach. Mind you, it worked for the NeoCons!
When staring into the Abyss, and the Abyss staring back, sometimes it's the Doctor who walks away, and sometimes it's the Master (The bees are dying, are you my mommy?). Fighting Monsters is Serious Business, but becoming one is lacking in lulz. Also worth remembering is the last Batman film: 'so...you've discovered that your boss, the richest man in the world, is a unstable psychopath who goes out at night and beats men half to death with his bare hands...and you want to blackmail this man?'.
Translate that to a sociopathic ruling elite with massive coercive faculties, and perhaps you get the point. Against a bigger guy, you're probably better off using aikido than taekwando.
Another general point is that you aren't alone, and it's easier to join something than start something; here's an Irish website by a guy in Wexford who has a pretty long-running discussion group and site on similar conspiracist lines, with more politics and less Gnosticism than say, Zeitgeist. Skipping to the end:In order for the movement to end elite rule and establish livable societies to succeed, it will need to evolve a democratic process, and to use that process to develop a program of consensus reform that harmonizes the interests of its constituencies. In order to be politically victorious, it will need to reach out to all segments of society and become a majority movement. By such means, the democratic process of the movement can become the democratic process of a newly empowered civil society. There is no adequate theory of democracy at present, although there is much to be learned from history and from theory. The movement will need to develop a democratic process as it goes along, and that objective must be pursued as diligently as victory itself. Otherwise some new tyranny will eventually replace the old.
A last note: my cousin said something to me once which always stuck with me: 'If you're going to lie, you'd better have a damn good memory'. It's good personal advice, and I think has some relevance...0 -
rexusdiablos wrote: »Oh and Diogenes, your a ***.
putting a smiley after this will not make you any less likely to recieve a banning.
Oh look you've just got one for 3 days 0 -
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE NEW WORLD ORDER. THERE ISN'T SOME SHADOWY SECRET GOVERNMENT TRYING TO RULE THE WORLD.
Well, we know where you stand on all this stuff. And if anyone had any doubt, they're well informed now.
But are you sure, and if so, How do you know?
Oh and by the way
from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller
In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography “Memoirs” wherein, on page 405," Mr. Rockefeller writes: “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
I thought this was common knowledge.
But I guess you'll tell me it's not a secret ... or something.0 -
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Well, we know where you stand on all this stuff. And if anyone had any doubt, they're well informed now.
But are you sure, and if so, How do you know?
Oh and by the way
from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller
In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography “Memoirs” wherein, on page 405," Mr. Rockefeller writes: “For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
I thought this was common knowledge.
But I guess you'll tell me it's not a secret ... or something.
Ah so David Rockfeller is part of a shadowy secret organisation dedicated to world control, and then admits as much in his own autobiography
Do you understand how retarded that argument is?
Rockfeller is simply stating that he wants a more integrated global political and economic structure, and some people view that anyone with this ambition is part of some kind of shadowy NWO cabal.0 -
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