Would you talk?....

tallaght01

I'm just sitting here in front of CNN, watching coverage of the US republican convention.

There's a bloke talking about John McCain, and his time as a prisoner of war in Nam.

The Charlie basically captured him after his plane was shot down. He had 2 broken arms and a broken leg when he hit the ground. He got the gee kicked off him for several days and was interrogated and tortured while he slipped in and out of consciousness.

He dropped to 100lbs in weight, and had his arm reset in the wrong place without anaesthetic!

For ages he couldn't even feed himself and was pretty immobile, so just had to lie in his own waste all day.

The batings he got where unbelievable to hear about...especially when he was in solitary confinement for 2 years, and had dysentry!!!!

Then he was offered early release, but he declined, unless the other guys who were put in there before him where released too. The Vietnamese told him to fook off. So, he took another 3 years in the camp, rather than get out early (He was offered early release coz his old man was an important admiral).

After his refusal, the beatings became unbearable, some days they happened every 2 hours!!!

So, when they finally "broke" him and made him give them the names of some group of US soldiers that they wanted....he wrote a whole load of names down for them. The Vietnamese were delighted.....but he'd just written down the names of the green bay packers offensive line!!!

What a legend. It almost made me want to vote Republican. 5 and a half years in a torture camp, and he still didn't break. That's Jack Bauer stuff.

So, what if you were a POW?

Would you talk? Could you hold out for over 5 years?

I know I'd defo hold out. For at least 12 minutes. But I'm tough as fook.

What about the rest of you? Do you think you could ever do anything like that? Or would the sight of an angry chink hanging his cigarette over your balls make you spill your guts about your parents whereabouts there and then?

Cunny-Funt

Bollocks, if that guy gets voted in I'll have zero faith in Americans and their country from then on.

Yeah well.

Barrack Obama is black.

the drifter

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Bollocks, if that guy gets voted in I'll have zero faith in Americans and their country from then on.

and you have faith with the bollocks thats there now?

fakearms123

tallaght01 wrote: »

I'm just sitting here in front of CNN, watching coverage of the US republican convention.

There's a bloke talking about John McCain, and his time as a prisoner of war in Nam.

The Charlie basically captured him after his plane was shot down. He had 2 broken arms and a broken leg when he hit the ground. He got the gee kicked off him for several days and was interrogated and tortured while he slipped in and out of consciousness.

He dropped to 100lbs in weight, and had his arm reset in the wrong place without anaesthetic!

For ages he couldn't even feed himself and was pretty immobile, so just had to lie in his own waste all day.

The batings he got where unbelievable to hear about...especially when he was in solitary confinement for 2 years, and had dysentry!!!!

Then he was offered early release, but he declined, unless the other guys who were put in there before him where released too. The Vietnamese told him to fook off. So, he took another 3 years in the camp, rather than get out early (He was offered early release coz his old man was an important admiral).

After his refusal, the beatings became unbearable, some days they happened every 2 hours!!!

So, when they finally "broke" him and made him give them the names of some group of US soldiers that they wanted....he wrote a whole load of names down for them. The Vietnamese were delighted.....but he'd just written down the names of the green bay packers offensive line!!!

What a legend. It almost made me want to vote Republican. 5 and a half years in a torture camp, and he still didn't break. That's Jack Bauer stuff.

So, what if you were a POW?

Would you talk? Could you hold out for over 5 years?

I know I'd defo hold out. For at least 12 minutes. But I'm tough as fook.

What about the rest of you? Do you think you could ever do anything like that? Or would the sight of an angry chink hanging his cigarette over your balls make you spill your guts about your parents whereabouts there and then?

eh why didn't he just give fake names at the very start of his capture?? I mean wouldnt that kind of imply as a republican he was a bit of an idiot for waiting 5 years to write down fake names when he could of just done that at the start

tallaght01

Obama would have talked, I reckon.

He'd have politely informed them of their obligations under the geneva convention, but he'd have talked nonetheless :P

Dave!

They wouldn't even need to torture me, just ask and I'd give them the answer.

Silenceisbliss

I was going to read your post, honest I was. But then I saw "john mcCain", and quickly feared. "FÜCK ....POLITICS", and i lost all interest. the purpose of this post then sir.

TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

but then i realised, sh1te, ill rob get a slap of the ban stick. then actually read your post.

and i can whole hartidly say, I would like to believe i wouldnt talk. I value my loved ones lives more than my own tbh. I have a pretty high threshhold for pain and boredom. but I could very well be surprised.

boogle

I wonder did he keep a pocket watch up his bum while he was there?

Cunny-Funt

the drifter wrote: »

and you have faith with the bollocks thats there now?

No but I'm hoping they would have learned from their mistakes...

CSC

What McCain did as a POW is very impressive. I don't think one can honestly say what they would do unless you were in that situation.

faceman

I went to a Christian Brothers school. Playing football in the yard one day and one of us whacked the ball off "Scanno" the headmaster by accident. Of course, "accident" isnt in the Christian Brother dictionary.

He lined us all up asking us who kicked the ball. It only took 3 seconds for me to break. "Heffo did it sir"

He didnt even need to threaten force.

Therefore those foreign millitants wouldnt need to beat me, id be like the speaking clock

Handsome Bob

I'd love to come in here and say that I'm tough as fook and that I wouldn't break, but I can't.:pac:

Black Swan

Geeeee, some volunteer for bindings and whips. Would they talk? "More! More!":pac::p

Irishcrx

I'm quite stubborn , i'd hold out as long as I could if I had a good cause but I would probably break long long before that man did...

r3nu4l

Where was Chuck Norris when all this was happening? Huh? That's the real question on everybody's mind! :mad:

flanzer

Never mind President of America, he should be the President of the World..... Oh wait, America is the world, my bad

Handsome Bob

r3nu4l wrote: »

Where was Chuck Norris when all this was happening? Huh? That's the real question on everybody's mind! :mad:

****ing Chuck Norris..........

Black Swan

r3nu4l wrote: »

Where was Chuck Norris when all this was happening? Huh? That's the real question on everybody's mind! :mad:

On the casting couch?

tallaght01

I vaguely remmeber some mad scene from a chuck norris movie, where he was captured. His captors put a bag over his head with a mad rat in it. BUt he bit through the rat and killed it.

Or did I make that up?

yomchi

tallaght01 wrote: »

I'm just sitting here in front of CNN, watching coverage of the US republican convention.

There's a bloke talking about John McCain, and his time as a prisoner of war in Nam.

The Charlie basically captured him after his plane was shot down. He had 2 broken arms and a broken leg when he hit the ground. He got the gee kicked off him for several days and was interrogated and tortured while he slipped in and out of consciousness.

He dropped to 100lbs in weight, and had his arm reset in the wrong place without anaesthetic!

For ages he couldn't even feed himself and was pretty immobile, so just had to lie in his own waste all day.

The batings he got where unbelievable to hear about...especially when he was in solitary confinement for 2 years, and had dysentry!!!!

Then he was offered early release, but he declined, unless the other guys who were put in there before him where released too. The Vietnamese told him to fook off. So, he took another 3 years in the camp, rather than get out early (He was offered early release coz his old man was an important admiral).

After his refusal, the beatings became unbearable, some days they happened every 2 hours!!!

So, when they finally "broke" him and made him give them the names of some group of US soldiers that they wanted....he wrote a whole load of names down for them. The Vietnamese were delighted.....but he'd just written down the names of the green bay packers offensive line!!!

What a legend. It almost made me want to vote Republican. 5 and a half years in a torture camp, and he still didn't break. That's Jack Bauer stuff.

So, what if you were a POW?

Would you talk? Could you hold out for over 5 years?

I know I'd defo hold out. For at least 12 minutes. But I'm tough as fook.

What about the rest of you? Do you think you could ever do anything like that? Or would the sight of an angry chink hanging his cigarette over your balls make you spill your guts about your parents whereabouts there and then?

The VC should have nailed him to a cross upside down by the scrotum and let the birds eat him. Fcukers had no right to be in Vietnam in the first place. Parasites on the worlds surface = American Republicans

Black Swan

tallaght01 wrote: »

Or did I make that up?

Maybe you're thinking of Conan the Barbarian when he was crucified on the Tree of Whoa he bit the vulture, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Squak Squak!:pac::eek:

tallaght01

Jon wrote: »

The VC should have nailed him to a cross upside down by the scrotum and let the birds eat him. Fcukers had no right to be in Vietnam in the first place. Parasites on the worlds surface = American Republicans

Sounds like they only barely stopped short of that!

silvine

That's it. I'm talking..

Earthhorse

Dave! wrote: »

They wouldn't even need to torture me, just ask and I'd give them the answer.

Damn straight. I've already given the Vietnamese the names of everybody who posted in this thread.

So long, fellas!

*rides off on the arms of a bi-plane*

humanji

tallaght01 wrote:

I vaguely remmeber some mad scene from a chuck norris movie, where he was captured. His captors put a bag over his head with a mad rat in it. BUt he bit through the rat and killed it.

Or did I make that up?

That was one of the Missing In Action films. The first one, I think.

With regards the OP's question, not only would I talk, I'd volounteer information they didn't ask for. After that I'd offer my services as a spy for them. It'll make things easier on everyone in the long run if you just help them out from the start.

Jay P

I have a deep phobia of torture. I know fo' sho' I would talk after a while.

Wibbs

I absolutely hate bullys and bullying authority types. I had a teacher(a priest) in school who back in the days of corporal punishment gave me a caning on the hands as a way of making me give the names of two other kids he suspected of something. Something I wasn't even involved in. He got to around 25 whacks, but the more he hit me the more I swore I wouldn't tell the prick anything. I couldn't close my hands for hours afterward. I was around ten AFAIR. I got home and the oul fella saw the state of me and went in the next day and gave the sadistic cnut a bollocking in front of other staff and pupils. I have the dubious distinction of being thrown out of the scouts for similar. Got suspended once for not ratting someone out too. Let the jumped up cretins do their own dirty work I say. If they're dumb enough to be bamboozled by kids, they're too dumb to be helped by me.

A stubborn streak in me I guess. May explain why I've only held down a "proper job" as an employee for a week. My boss decided his ignorance and lack of ability was an excuse to push people around. Cue one very loud bollocking from me about his general idiocy and I got the sack. Turns out they went bust a year or two later. The more they push the more I'll push back. I would say that it's often more bloody minded stubbornness than bravery in cases like this.

Though bravery is there of course. Serious bravery in the case of the McCain fella. I think he and his policies are hogwash but I would give him kudos for that. TBH Obama is as bad. Dumbed down rhetoric about dreams and passing on the dream and living the dream and dreaming the dream and well.... guff basically. Guff for an audience addled by bad media and worse education.

Steve_o

r3nu4l wrote: »

Where was Chuck Norris when all this was happening? Huh? That's the real question on everybody's mind! :mad:

Getting his ass kicked by Bruce Lee's ghost...

Pherekydes

tallaght01 wrote: »

but he'd just written down the names of the green bay packers offensive line!!!

The swine! Why'd he sell out the Packers? The traitor.

All American Irish are voting for O'Bama.

Honey-ec

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

I would like to believe i wouldnt talk. I value my loved ones lives more than my own tbh.

They really frown on that sort of thing in the army, y'know...

Earthhorse

Pherekydes wrote: »

The swine! Why'd he sell out the Packers? The traitor.

If you know anything about how Green Bay are financed you'd realise they are the traitors.

God damned communists!

carlybabe1

fakearms123 wrote: »

eh why didn't he just give fake names at the very start of his capture?? I mean wouldnt that kind of imply as a republican he was a bit of an idiot for waiting 5 years to write down fake names when he could of just done that at the start

LOL thats class, as for bein tough you've got me there tallaght01, id be lucky if I lasted 12 seconds.....mental torture I can take for years, just have to look at some of me exes, physical, im a weakling

Pherekydes

Earthhorse wrote: »

If you know anything about how Green Bay are financed you'd realise they are the traitors.

That's why I'm a fan.

MagicMarker

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah well.

Barrack Obama is black.

Yep, he can most certainly jump higher than McCain.

When i hear McCain i think ovenchip.

Obama ftw

marco murphy

What a legend. It almost made me want to vote Republican.

Rolleyes........

Mr. Presentable

CSC wrote: »

What McCain did as a POW is very impressive. I don't think one can honestly say what they would do unless you were in that situation.

The only snag being; he gave all the testimony himself. Now he's a politician. Seriously, do you believe him?

ashyle

I would talk but thats only because I wouldn't be very high up in the army/navy/marines/justice league anyway. So what could I know.

www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com

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aidan24326

I'd be sceptical about that story, I'd be very surprised if it isn't laced with a good big spoonful of exaggeration.

George W made some rather dubious claims about his role in the military too if I remember correctly.

Jon

Jon wrote: »

The VC should have nailed him to a cross upside down by the scrotum and let the birds eat him. Fcukers had no right to be in Vietnam in the first place. Parasites on the worlds surface = American Republicans

rights or wrongs of a war dont matter when someone is out of the fight as a prisoner. You are scum.

The VC skinned people alive - you condone this type of thing? To torture captives who cant get away? Brave you are

DublinWriter

A friend of mine in the states works in a government centre to help Vietnam Vets get medical aid.

She said the vast majority of them suffer from flashbacks and post-traumatic stress syndrome and wouldn't have had anything like the near experience that McCain had.

Do you really want someone who suffers from flashbacks to be in charge of the Big Red Button?

Dr.Strangelove comes to mind.

marco murphy

The VC skinned people alive - you condone this type of thing?

Proof? I have lots of videos of Napalm being used on Villages, and photos of massacres carried out by US forces.

MagicMarker

Poblachtach wrote: »

Proof? I have lots of videos of Napalm being used on Villages, and photos of massacres carried out by US forces.

You might want to talk to someone about that.

Dudess

nipplenuts wrote: »

The only snag being; he gave all the testimony himself. Now he's a politician. Seriously, do you believe him?

My thoughts exactly.

trout

I don't know any of the Green Bay Packers.

I'd probably take a few slaps just to show willin' ... and then I'd give up the names of boardsies who have crossed me.

You know who you are.

oeb

You got to be kidding right? I pay people to do that kinda ****e to me. That's some kinky stuff. 5 years? For free? And he got a medal?

I wouldn't talk but not for honor or the betterment of common good. Just out of poor spite.

AlmightyCushion

Deleted User wrote: »

You are scum.

Banned.

ejmaztec

You just need to think about the "Manchurian Candidate", when you decide whether or not you're going to talk. The Vietnamese government might end up running the world if McCain gets elected. The only upside would be that we'd all get free counterfeit dvds, fags and designer clothes.

Agamemnon

ejmaztec wrote: »

You just need to think about the "Manchurian Candidate", when you decide whether or not you're going to talk. The Vietnamese government might end up running the world if McCain gets elected.

Hmm, I see an ominous pattern emerging here. Gary Glitter's probably been reprogrammed to seize control of Britain and turn it into a paedo's paradise. I, for one, welcome etc.