Steroids in PSNI?? allowed?

J.0

Class C Schedule II are not legal for possession or use by just anyone. They are controlled drugs and can only be lawfully obtained through prescription. If you have been prescribed them, then it is explainable, if not, start considering another career or reapply after 6 months of being clean.

PSNI are requesting "2 samples of hair of 3cm in length and containing at least 50 -100 strands of hair per sample". This covers a 6 month period for testing purposes.

Gee-22

They even ask if you have been near any drug users. So be careful who you party with.

Sthm

J.0 wrote: »

Class C Schedule II are not legal for possession or use by just anyone. They are controlled drugs and can only be lawfully obtained through prescription. If you have been prescribed them, then it is explainable, if not, start considering another career or reapply after 6 months of being clean.

PSNI are requesting "2 samples of hair of 3cm in length and containing at least 50 -100 strands of hair per sample". This covers a 6 month period for testing purposes.

You're missing the point and don't seem to understand the legality. You can import for personal use into the UK, without a prescription, from different countries where they are legal over the counter. It is legal to possess same. I'm sorry, but this is a fact that isn't up for debate.

And I'm only posting this to clear up the legality on it. I do not use PEDs or have any interest bar clearing up the misconceptions here.

Bob Law

Interesting reading some of the opinions here.

I've a lot of friends in the bodybuilding scene and a lot more in the strongman scene. Both involve a lot of steriod use and frankly, if you want to be bigger and stronger than everyone else, use steriods. Highly unlikely you're born genetically gifted to reach the level of ELITE (edited out the word professional, you can just enjoy the sport without it being your job) without them.

I know doctors on gear who compete as bodybuilders and they don't have a bad word to say about it when they're used safely (I am fully aware of their biasis)

As for testing, it does cost a fortune to test for steriods (A sample test of 10 male / female competitors will run you around £4/5K). [Source: I know people in the UK Weightlifting Committee]

Creatine, Fish Oil, ZMA, Multivitamin and Protein Powders & LOTS OF FOOD wil get your very far before you need gear.

I've no plans to use them myself but once you hit your mid/late 30s and want to maintain a high level of test then serioids are a useful tool.

I'd say a bigger concern would be pre-workout stuff like Jack2d, Craze, Tier1, Haemorage etc as you can fail a test for stims.

biker701

Bob Law wrote: »

Interesting reading some of the opinions here.

I've a lot of friends in the bodybuilding scene and a lot more in the strongman scene. Both involve a lot of steriod use and frankly, if you want to be bigger and stronger than everyone else, use steriods. Highly unlikely you're born genetically gifted to reach the level of ELITE (edited out the word professional, you can just enjoy the sport without it being your job) without them.

I know doctors on gear who compete as bodybuilders and they don't have a bad word to say about it when they're used safely (I am fully aware of their biasis)

As for testing, it does cost a fortune to test for steriods (A sample test of 10 male / female competitors will run you around £4/5K). [Source: I know people in the UK Weightlifting Committee]

Creatine, Fish Oil, ZMA, Multivitamin and Protein Powders & LOTS OF FOOD wil get your very far before you need gear.

I've no plans to use them myself but once you hit your mid/late 30s and want to maintain a high level of test then serioids are a useful tool.

I'd say a bigger concern would be pre-workout stuff like Jack2d, Craze, Tier1, Haemorage etc as you can fail a test for stims.

Pardon my naivety, but why would stimulants like those you mentioned be a bigger issue than Steroids? [clueless about all of it so just curious]

Bob Law

Mainly because it's very easy for someone to take this stuff without realising it's similar to a class A/class B amphetamine.

You can walk into a supp shop and get legally buy a tub of craze for £35 which will give you one hell of a workout, but could register a fail on a standard tox test. More and more of these products are being reduced in strength or banned.

In short, stims are more of a problem because people are taking this stuff without realising. I knowingly take it as it helps me no end and it's not banned in the competitions I enter. However, I've ceased all use as I'm not taking a risk with a tox screen.

CallTheCobra

Hi, new to the forum and find this quite an interesting debate. I think pre trainings pose a risk as they could show up on the recreational drugs test as amphetamines. We have seen how some pre trainings have come under scrutiny, Craze for example.
As for the PSNI testing for anabolic steroids, I can't see it! Too expensive too test every recruit for steroid use. Steroid testing requires a different test as to that for recreational drugs. Also when have you ever read of a PSNI officer being suspended or dismissed over steroid 'use'? There has however been a number of cases across the water... http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseyside-police-officer-suspended-after-6287836

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/steroid-taking-police-sgt-fight-job-1402175

The case above is quite interesting in that the Officer was found not guilty by the courts but still was dismissed by the force. Personal use is not against the law if it is in the form of a medicinal product with a prescription. However possession with intent to supply is against the law. An issue may also arise in relation to the means in which Officers obtain their steroids....
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21154316

I also found this article online which states that anabolic steroids are not included; see page 23.
http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/workforce/2009/200911WDSMT01.pdf

It's quite a grey area, I think the only way of knowing whether or not for sure the PSNI tests for anabolic steroids would be through a freedom of information request, unless of course anyone can shed any further light on the matter?

Thanks

gigity gigity

Question for somebody in the know- say for example you have been working in a social housing development and in one of the apartments you were working in someone was clearly smoking the reefer, what are the chances of this being in your system if you had been there for 10-15minutes?