80GB

younge

Hi all, bought a ps3 yesterday from smyths. Got the 80gb version, 2 dualshock controllers, nba live 08, gta4 and a ten euro voucher for 510 euros. I think this is an okay price, not that sure tho. I got a one year warranty with it and i asked the lad could I get another year or 2 if i paid more and he said no. Can anyone tell me is a one year warranty suffecient for the system. I've heard the horror stories etc. and saw harvey normans offering longer warranties for a small sum but they didn't have the 80gb in stock do i opted for smyths.

guil

i have min since june 07 and no probs with it

Retr0gamer

younge wrote: »

Hi all, bought a ps3 yesterday from smyths. Got the 80gb version, 2 dualshock controllers, nba live 08, gta4 and a ten euro voucher for 510 euros. I think this is an okay price, not that sure tho. I got a one year warranty with it and i asked the lad could I get another year or 2 if i paid more and he said no. Can anyone tell me is a one year warranty suffecient for the system. I've heard the horror stories etc. and saw harvey normans offering longer warranties for a small sum but they didn't have the 80gb in stock do i opted for smyths.

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

Vyse

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

Robbed might be a bit strong but I would have just bought the system separate (€400) and then picked whatever games you wanted separately. Since all PS3 games are region free you can pick up brand new ones for abou €40 online. You could have picked up those two games for less than that though.

guil

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

so does that mean sony have to fix my ps3 for free even though thr 1 year warranty is up

projectmayhem

guil07 wrote: »

so does that mean sony have to fix my ps3 for free even though thr 1 year warranty is up

Your contract isn't with Sony, it's with the store. Unless their warranty covers accidental damage and theft, then you've paid for something you were legally entitled to anyway

guil

i take it i would have to have proof of purchase, i bought it with a cc that the acc is closed so i dunno if i could get a statement

fdegir

game's bundle is better. ps3+gta4 for 415euro and additional dualshock costs 35euro (normally 60euro)they give you reward card free (normally 5euro) 10euro credit is loaded.
450 euro for ps3+gta4+ds3. so, you paid 60euro for nba which is normally 25euro on play.com. i don't even mention -25euro for ds3 and 15euro for reward card+credit.

by the way, xtravision deal is good too. ps3 + any game (up to 70euro) is for 410euro.

Sea Devils

Got mine today for about 450 Euro in HMV for two Dual Shock Controllers and a free game (GTA 4) Got the new madden seperately

Not as good as some of the other deals mentioned and I probably should have done what Vyse suggested but I did want it pretty bad at that stage and wasn't prepared to look around

noodler

I'd like to see know how many people have been successful with that EU thing Retro. I know when I worked in XV, we would do a straight swap if it was within a month or send it back to sony on your behalf if it was outside a month (only up to a year tho).

Im not saying thats the law but Argos sell 3 year warranties on nearly all their stuff. If that was illegal then I'd be surprised (altho that is a warranty that covers more)

That HMV deal sounds alright. Are you sure the extra controller isn't a sixaxis tho? I thought thats what I saw last time I was in there. I might get my ass to Xtra-Vision for that offer.

whiterebel

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

Could you provide a link for that please?

ongarite

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

It a 2yr warranty AFAIK by European law.

Flaccus

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You were robbed. You get a 1 year warrantee by default and even still by european law all electronics have to be covered by a 3 year warrantee.

actually you dont. that part of the directive was never ratified in ireland because we enjoy up to 6 years under sale of goods. year1 is covered by the assumption the product is doa, year 2 you have to proove a manufacturing defect, year 3 and on you have to proove it should have lasted longer. after 1 year is up, the courts are often the only option in this country on items sold with 1 year manufacturing warranty, regardless of your rights.

younge

Well fair enough i may have paid 30 euro more than what i could have done by buying on the internet but I'm glad rather than waiting a week for the post. I'm not gonna lose sleep over 30 euro.

noodler

Internet? Who said ANYTHING about an internet price?

younge

I was talking about buying games off the internet noodler, WHY are you getting so defensive over it. Its only a chat between people, not an arguement. Relax a tad.

noodler

Im sorry. Didn't mean it to sound like that. I like the XV deal but I don't want to buy one from my local XV cos I used to work there and lets just say the consoles are kept in extrenely high temperatures!

rabbitinlights

What do you mean extreamly high temperatures?

Malmedicine

rabbitinlights wrote: »

What do you mean extreamly high temperatures?

In a microwave?

noodler

Just a poorly ventilated 'stockroom'

Sea Devils

noodler wrote: »

That HMV deal sounds alright. Are you sure the extra controller isn't a sixaxis tho? I thought thats what I saw last time I was in there. I might get my ass to Xtra-Vision for that offer.

Yeah was in there today and you're right it was a Sixaxis controller. 'Note to self check what you're getting more carefully':pac:

I also saw a deal where you get the PS3 and Fight Night or Fifa for about 415 which is decent enough imo. Not sure about the Controller bit

whiterebel

According to MacFormat, they were talking about extended warranties and the like in the UK. The 6 years is covered under the Sale of Goods Act. The 6 years is the amount of time you have to bring a court case against the manufacturer, not the amount of warranty. Every single electronic thing I have bought has a one year warranty with it, so why would they ignore a 2 year rule if there was one in place?

Varik

what i can recall from school is it under 1 year to bring it back 1-2 year you have to prove it was not you fault and 2-3 prove it was meant to last longer and not die that soon

still the 60gb have 0.1% failure rate not sure of the others but that a lot better than the360 the newer ones have 10-16% and the 33% for the older

noodler

Sea Devils wrote: »

Yeah was in there today and you're right it was a Sixaxis controller. 'Note to self check what you're getting more carefully':pac:

I also saw a deal where you get the PS3 and Fight Night or Fifa for about 415 which is decent enough imo. Not sure about the Controller bit

Yeah man but I see they upped the price of that deal recently (was in today and theres a new sticker over all the bundles in question so you lucked out either way I think).

Flaccus

whiterebel wrote: »

According to MacFormat, they were talking about extended warranties and the like in the UK. The 6 years is covered under the Sale of Goods Act. The 6 years is the amount of time you have to bring a court case against the manufacturer, not the amount of warranty. Every single electronic thing I have bought has a one year warranty with it, so why would they ignore a 2 year rule if there was one in place?

By which time the product would be more then a year old anyway. Regardless you are still covered for up to 6 years of the products life but the burden of proof is on you in year 2 with various stipulations. The 1 year warranty is just an "optional" guarantee the manufacturer gives you. It does not infringe on your legal rights of up to 6 years cover. The 2 year rule was brought in by the EU to harmonise the situation, but was never ratified in Irish law as we already have cover which is superior. A manufacturer will give you his 1 year guarantee which you don't even need, and hope after the year is up you will go away which most people will do. I've aleady been in the small claims court on 2 occasions - once over a TV that was 2.5 years old and failed but had a 1 year guarantee and the shop wanted me to pay for the repair, and once over a Washing Machine, again with a 1 year guarantee, that was approx 1.5 years old - where the company only wanted to cover parts but make me pay labour. In both cases the Sale of Good Act worked for me and I won.

whiterebel

Flaccus wrote: »

Incorrect mate. I suggest you trawl through the Sale of Goods act again. You are covered for up to 6 years of the products life but the burden of proof is on you. The 1 year warranty is just an "optional" warranty the manufacturer gives you. It does not infringe on your legal rights of up to 6 years cover. The 2 year rule was brought in by the EU to help the sitation but was never ratified in Irish law as we already have cover which is superior.

If you look really, really closely you'll see I was putting forward what Macformat say about the UK interpretation.

However, if you have a link that shows our legislation I would appreciate it, because I have asked about 10 times on different forums and no-one has ever been able to show it.

Flaccus

Strictly speaking the 1980 legislation says you have the right to claim damages for up to 6 years after the sale was made, which would of course make the product 6 years old. This is why people say you have a 6 year warranty. Of course there are lots of conditions attached to that. I printed the act out once and highlighted the sections. I'll try and dig it out later mate.

whiterebel

Flaccus wrote: »

Strictly speaking the 1979 legislation says you have the right to claim damages for up to 6 years after the sale was made, which would of course make the product 6 years old. This is why people say you have a 6 year warranty. Of course there are lots of conditions attached to that. I printed the act out once and highlighted the sections. I'll try and dig it out later mate.

I'm looking though the 1980 Sales of Goods Act at the moment, and the only place I see 6 years mentioned is under the section dealing with Motor Vehicles?

I should have said, regarding the Macformat piece, as you correctly pointed out, you have 6 years to claim, but they say its only that you can prove a known or common manufacturing defect.

whiterebel

What I have found on first scout through the 1980 Act:

Terms of guarantee.

16.—(1) A guarantee shall be clearly legible and shall refer only to specific goods or to one category of goods.

(2) A guarantee shall state clearly the name and address of the person supplying the guarantee.

(3) A guarantee shall state clearly the duration of the guarantee from the date of purchase but different periods may be stated for different components of any goods.

(4) A guarantee shall state clearly the procedure for presenting a claim under the guarantee which procedure shall not be more difficult than ordinary or normal commercial procedure.

(5) A guarantee shall state clearly what the manufacturer or other supplier undertakes to do in relation to the goods and what charges, if any, including the cost of carriage, the buyer must meet in relation to such undertakings.

(6) It shall be an offence for the manufacturer or other supplier of goods to supply in connection with the goods a guarantee which fails to comply with this section.

Flaccus

That bit is in relation to the manufacturer's guarantee which does not affect your right to claim within 6 years of purchasing the goods. Unforutnately I can't find the information you are looking for........yet.

whiterebel

Flaccus wrote: »

That bit is in relation to the manufacturer's guarantee which does not affect your right to claim within 6 years of purchasing the goods. Unforutnately I can't find the information you are looking for........yet.

I await with baited breath:P

Flaccus

Ok..I was wrong..(sort of) it's covered by Directive 1999/44/EC. This incorporates minimum guarantee of 6 years on products. Other countries in the EU have less. Where the 6 years originated from I thought was the 1980 Act. It may have been the Statute of Limitations Act now that I think about it.

Anyway here is the link :

http://www.euroconsumatori.org/16856v18340d18510.html

whiterebel

Flaccus wrote: »

Ok..I was wrong..(sort of) it's covered by Directive 1999/44/EC. This incorporates minimum guarantee of 6 years on products. Other countries in the EU have less. Where the 6 years originated from I thought was the 1980 Act. It may have been the Statute of Limitations Act now that I think about it.

Anyway here is the link :

http://www.euroconsumatori.org/16856v18340d18510.html

Now, were gettting to it. I don't think Ireland signed up to that.

Flaccus

we did. that is why it was ammended to 6 years for us over the statute of limitations we have already which allows for a claim over this time period. what we did not sign up for was 2 years which is standard in most of the eu. just click greece for example on the link i posted.

rabbitinlights

This is all, well and good, but try explaining this to the guy behind the counter in GAME/HMV/X-V etc. He is not gonna buy it, either is his manager.

Overature

why do you need 80 gigs of hard drive. i got 20 wid my 360 and its fine

Flaccus

rabbitinlights wrote: »

This is all, well and good, but try explaining this to the guy behind the counter in GAME/HMV/X-V etc. He is not gonna buy it, either is his manager.

That's what the small claims court is for and only costs 15euro. I resorted to this a year ago with a washing machine that was 6 months over the manufacturers guarantee.

Overature‚ unlike the 360, alot of ps3 games install a fair chunk to the hard drive. DMC4, GTAIV and MGS4 take over 14gigs alone!!!

jaybe1

Was looking on GAME website and they have 80gb ps3 with MGS4 for less than €390 delivered from uk or you can choose to pick it up from a store of your choice. Anyone buy it this way ? with exchange rate being good now its better to order online off them

noodler

Personally think the Xtra Vision 80gb with any game is the way to go.

BArra

how much is the ps3 80gb and any game in xtravision?

noodler

410e. Checked it today.

noodler

Going to the North tomorrow. PS3 would work out cheaper I imagine but are there any warranty issues I need to think about.

I mean if it breaks I could just ring Sony, no? Rather than bring it back up?

EDIT: Game are selling them in the UK with a game for 310strl (about 390e). XV doing same for 410.

20E difference not worth it.

Kimbot

noodler wrote: »

410e. Checked it today.

There is an offer of 410 for the 80GB and one game to the value of 69.99 in Xtravision but it doesn't start until the 23rd of this month or something I was told.

noodler

I asked in an xtra vision in Newbridge on Tuesday and they rold me the deal. They didn't mention anything about the 23rd tho.

I doubt thats true. Maybe the store in question just had none in?

Kimbot

noodler wrote: »

I asked in an xtra vision in Newbridge on Tuesday and they rold me the deal. They didn't mention anything about the 23rd tho.

I doubt thats true. Maybe the store in question just had none in?

Sorry the store made a mistake and head office rectified it for them so the deal in Xtravision is as follows for anyone interested:

80GB PS3 console with any game upto the value of €69.99 for €409.99.
If you buy another game at the same time you get €10 off the second game.