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Steer Clear of UPC/NTL. Terrible Terrible Service!!

  • 21-08-2008 3:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23


    Hey Guys,

    Just a word of advice. Steer clear of this company. They are the worst company for customer services ive ever come across. Firstly, I am getting phone calls up to 3 times a day from NTL asking do I want a phone line. 3 times a day and almost everyday, saturdays and sundays. I have asked around 10 times to be taken off the list but they keep calling.

    Secondly, I got upgraded to the 20mb line. It doesnt work properly, and NTL wont sort it out. The router broke 2 days after they gave it to me, but NTL dont support the routers so i have to buy a new one myself. The routers apparently arent something NTL will guarantee.

    Then when i took out NTL i set up a dd mandate. They never set it up, I rang them and gave my details again, they didnt set it up again, on the third phonecall, my bill was now 2 weeks late and they told me the only way i can pay is post office as ddmandates cannot be set up if there are arrears. The arrears are all their fault but nothing was done to accomadate me. I rang to make a complaint, and got cut off, rang back, got cut off again before i spoke to anyone and rang for a third time. The guy on the end of the time refused to put me through to a manager to voice my complaint, told me all the managers were out of the building???? yeah weird.

    So i decided to email. After 8 days I get a reponse. No apology in the slightest, in fact the response said that firstly, my name was taken off their marketing database so i wont get calls anymore, but it takes 30 days, so i will still be getting my 2 - 3 calls a day for another month. They didnt care that I gave my dd details 3 times , they said that my service will be suspended if i didnt pay. (it was paid with a mates cc in the end).

    THey simply just didnt care, not one bit about everything. If you can get sky, get it, NTL/UPC are woeful.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    i am a UPC customer and am very happy with them!

    have there tv service about twenty years ever since i moved into my hose and have only had two or three problems with them

    but that was due to someone trying to tapping into there service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    best thing to do, is to put everything in writing.. And send it using registered post.. It'll cost u a bit more, but will save you time in the long run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    i have them since last sept, no breakdowns package in two rooms for small money the wife and anklebiters are happy, then so am i, bar for the newa i rarley watch telly, as for the grief i got from sky well i just will not go there


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Also a sasitified customer here too, TV, Digital, BB, and phone service. Have been a customer for over 10 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    Had a few issues over the year but they're improving for sure and their broad band is unbeatable!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    If they sold you the router, they have to support it / replace it.

    I've never found UPC (or their predecessors) slow to swap out faulty equipment.

    Ring 1908 outside peak times if you can, it tends to get crazy around lunch time and close to the end of the working day.

    Try them at about 10am or so and you usually get straight through, or at most hold for a min or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭WithCheesePlease


    2 sides to this - when the service works I have no complaints. And to be fair this is most of the time.

    But when it doesn't - worst customer service ever in how long you have to wait. Very frustrating. And I couldn't believe it when I recently called to cut off my Setanta Sports and Sky Sports and was charged 20 euro!! A downgrade charge - 10 euro per service. Couldn't believe it. Unbelievably cheeky.

    Also got repeated phone calls about their new landline service. Weren't so quick to inform me about that downgrade charge!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 The_Diva


    As I use to work for the company in question, i can only side with those who have nothing but problems with their service. They just dont care about existing customers, just to get the sale. Have you all not noticed that on every call they are trying to upsell you??? The staff on the phone(s) have no clue as the turnover of staff is at an all time high. The management in the company just keep putting on the pressure on the staff and as a result the "Great Customer Service" that they harp on about is thrown out the window!!! If you need something sorted out on your service, it would be wise to say that you want o get a new service as then a technician would call out to you, when he arrives just say that you have changed your mind, but whilst you are here could you have a look at....
    In all honesty they have no clue as to what end of a pen they use to write with, and then we wonder why the service is sooooo crap!!! Bring back the days when UPC use to be both NTL and Chorus and worked seperately. I mean the suppose upgrade for the better has nothing but problems.
    Also, some of the technicians are a joke, they come through from some work experience program and then given the all clear to go and put up an aerial, connect tv, broadband and telephone.
    To get somewhere with this sh**e company you need to have a very no nonsense approach and be firm, and tough dont let them say all the crap about "its companys policy", "its in your contract" as this is aload of rubbish. They can make the alteration and do it, and do it straight away. So in all honnesty, Chorus/NTL a UPC company is offering a terrible service and get away with it as they are not monitored as closely as it should be. Make a complaint, kick up a fuss and let it be known on the radio and then we can listening to the crap that they will spin out about "in the future......., we are working on it...." If any other industry or service providers offered the same treatment to the public as the UPC does, there would be hell to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The_Diva wrote: »
    Have you all not noticed that on every call they are trying to upsell you??? .

    Well I never, a company trying to make more money?The Dastardly Bastards, I will be sending a strongly worded letter to my TD forthwith.

    Im a customer for 10 years or so with no problems. I have Digital TV, roadband and now phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭deanh


    The_Diva wrote: »
    As I use to work for the company in question, i can only side with those who have nothing but problems with their service. .
    What makes me think that they terminated your employment. You can't just blame management for the problem. it is the staff who deliver the service.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    deanh wrote: »
    What makes me think that they terminated your employment. You can't just blame management for the problem. it is the staff who deliver the service.

    It's managements job to manage the staff. If there is a problem, management should be on top of it and sort it out. There should also be someone to escalate calls to. This doesn't mean the staff are blameless but they're certainly not getting corrected.

    The staff in UPC get a rough time and that's because they're on the front line. Every problem with the staff is the fault of management. The fact the management is so bad implies that management up the chain are just as bad.

    I am a manager and while staff make mistakes, it is my fault if the department is running badly, not theirs.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    UPC will definitely need to improve their customer service now.They lost 24,000 customers in the last quarter and this is likely to increase with Freesat and increased competition from Sky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭NewDubliner


    My TV on RTE & any non-BBC channel - working.

    My TV (on BBC): "You have not subscribed for this service, please dial 1850-321-321"

    Dialled 1850-321-321 - recorded message: "Please dial 1908"

    Dialled 1908 - "Please enter your account number so we can help you"

    Entered account number, then went through menus, waited 10 minutes for a person: "Hello what's your account number please? ("It does not come up on my screen", says he.)"

    Explained problem, waited for a few minutes while he did some stuff, channels came back after a while. Says operative :"I just turned up the gain".

    hmm....

    Could try harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    My TV on RTE & any non-BBC channel - working.

    My TV (on BBC): "You have not subscribed for this service, please dial 1850-321-321"

    Dialled 1850-321-321 - recorded message: "Please dial 1908"

    Dialled 1908 - "Please enter your account number so we can help you"

    Entered account number, then went through menus, waited 10 minutes for a person: "Hello what's your account number please? ("It does not come up on my screen", says he.)"

    Explained problem, waited for a few minutes while he did some stuff, channels came back after a while. Says operative :"I just turned up the gain".

    hmm....

    Could try harder.

    he fixed it didnt he is that not enough for you or would you like him to come out to your house and spend a hour or so explaining every single thing he didd to fix it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭NewDubliner


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    he fixed it didnt he is that not enough for you or would you like him to come out to your house and spend a hour or so explaining every single thing he didd to fix it.
    It shouldn't break in the first place. I'm paying enough for a mediocre selection of advertising-riddled channels, the least they could do is properly monitor their systems. The main complaint I have is that I think it's pretty sloppy of them to waste my time by having me phone the wrong number and then ask me twice for the account number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kensington


    and then ask me twice for the account number.
    They only do this so that when you do get through to an operator, you'll have your account number to hand already. Granted, you would think it would automatically pull up your details on file from when you typed it in, but it does save the operator having to wait five odd minutes while the customer has to go off to find their account number upon getting through...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭bricks


    I canceled in July when I switched over to Eircom/Sky combination.
    When I first rung up to cancel they said the cancelations department was busy.
    Eventually got them and they gave be a PO box number.
    So I wrote to them and heard nothing back so I emailed them heard nothing, then I rang them, eventually I got a bill indicating services canceled.
    No mention of return of equipment, So I rang them to ask do they want it back and who was to collect it. They told me not to bother, I could keep the stuff. A DVR modem and router. I asked was she sure, YES.
    2 months later, 150Euros bill for non-return of equipment.
    So I rang them, they wanted the DVR back. I said no problem its no good to me. So a guy came along and collected it.
    Got a call a week later, I should pay the 150Euros or I'll be visited by debt collectors.
    I told the woman on the phone, I've returned it the guy came last week. She then asked if maybe I'd like to pay of part of the 150Euro... ffs
    Latest is that they acknowledge via email that I don't owe them anything.
    But ringing 1908 I still have -150Euro balance.
    They also canceled my direct debit 2 times and sent the initial install engineer to the wrong address twice. I had to listen to 'Rick Hatten' fight adverts several times when I rung them. I listed this as a reason for cancelation.
    My Da gets them phone calls regularily to sign up for a phone also.

    On the plus side, my sky+ service never has any missing channels.
    I now pay way more per month for BB from Eircom just so I don't have to put up with NTL and UselessPieceofCrap.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    my digital thing has never worked properly, its is always sticking and freezing.


    anyway, i want to know why their techs only cater for people who work from home?

    i just had a tech telling me i was final call (at 2.30pm). i explained to him that the girl had said that she would make sure some didnt up come until 5pm

    i am now stuck with no telly and years a contract and no possiblity to get someone out to fix it :(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭paulm17781


    irishbird wrote: »
    i am now stuck with no telly and years a contract and no possiblity to get someone out to fix it :(:(

    Don't take that! Get them to send someone out on a Saturday. They will.

    Insist you are not paying as they are not providing service. Don't ask, don't be rude. Just tell them this is the case and if they have a problem, you will bring them to the small claims court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    a mediocre selection of advertising-riddled channels.

    You'll be wanting the BBC 1 & 2 pack....not sure if UPC do that particular option, maybe you should ring them to complain?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    It shouldn't break in the first place. I'm paying enough for a mediocre selection of advertising-riddled channels, the least they could do is properly monitor their systems. The main complaint I have is that I think it's pretty sloppy of them to waste my time by having me phone the wrong number and then ask me twice for the account number.

    nothing last for ever lots of thing break these days.

    every channel has advertising the BBC don't have ads during the movies.
    sky movies dont have ads during the movies either but have 20mins of them before the next one starts.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    I hate NTL. I've had lots of problems with their service over the years. I don't know how many times over the years, I have had to plug out the receiver and then fumble to plug it back in again because the picture died or froze, how many times the service has been down completely, how much of my life has been spent on hold, DVR only brought in recently, ages after SKY introduced it, Still no HD. Broadband is good, although for a about a month earlier in the year it was borked for some reason until they eventually fixed the line. I would jump to SKY in a flash if I could. Years ago, when we had SKY at home, there was never any problems that I can recall.

    Also, I do wish they would get it through their ****ing skulls that I don't want a phone line. I don't want to be called on my mobile (used to get a call every bloody week until I sent them a letter in my capacity as a solicitor - one of the perks of the job!) or receive junk mail every other week offering my the same.

    To me it's a clear demonstration as to why a lack of competition is a bad thing for the consumer. If there was a proper alternative, this company would be dead and buried a long time ago or would now offer a fantastic service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭8gbMadness


    I'm getting tired of their broadband problems, outages, bad ping, packet loss- sick to death tbh, might be cancelling soon waster of €46 p/m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 limerick-kev24


    God some of you people are unbelieveable!!!!!! You sit there and insult people who work at ntl/chorus. They go to work, are given instructions on what to sell and when to do it.Why do they ask you do u want a phone line when u call, maybe its to maxamise their sales, Believe it or not thats the way some companys work!!!! its their job <<SNIP>>!!!

    Right i side with all of you who have had a bad experience, i know how long it takes to get through and how bad their customer service is. for anyone that is thinking of cancelling i advise you to ring their call centre, ask for retentions and hold, now you will be holding for a while but when you get through you will speak to an agent who will put a disconnection on the account. DO NOT send a letter as it goes on top of the 2000 plus a week and will take 6 to 8 weeks to be looked at!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    It took me 45mins to cancel Sky, then 1 month notice payments. It takes 5mins to reactivate.

    No-one makes it easy to cancel.

    Ring and write.

    Be patient.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    God some of you people are unbelieveable!!!!!! You sit there and insult people who work at ntl/chorus. They go to work, are given instructions on what to sell and when to do it.Why do they ask you do u want a phone line when u call, maybe its to maxamise their sales, Believe it or not thats the way some companys work!!!! its their job u morons!!!


    Who gives a flying **** if it's somebody's job? I never consented to being called every week for them to try and sell me a phone line I didn't want. I never asked them to mail every month about their phone lines.

    We shouldn't get annoyed about it because it "somebody's job"? And we're morons! If you meant to refer just to when people call NTL rather than the other way around then fair enough & my apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    They are obliged to stop calling /emailing/writing you if you ask them to stop.

    (Thanks Byte)


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Yeah but I remember with the phone calls, I asked them to take me off that list on maybe 5 occasions. Took a letter to sort out finally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭bricks


    DO NOT send a letter as it goes on top of the 2000 plus a week and will take 6 to 8 weeks to be looked at!!!

    I was told I could not cancel my service over the phone and that I would hav e to send it via mail to a PO box number in Limerick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 limerick-kev24


    bricks wrote: »
    I was told I could not cancel my service over the phone and that I would hav e to send it via mail to a PO box number in Limerick.

    U can cancel over the phone but if u get a tough retention agent they will insist on u sending a letter, but they def do cancel accounts over the phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I have uPC TV, broadband.

    Excellent servivce , no problems.

    If they want to flog me a phone service occasionally, no problem. I can say no thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    I am getting rid of NTL , they are a real PITA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭DoubleJoe7


    I was going to start a thread on the hassle I've had with them but saw this one so decided to post it here instead.

    I ordered Chorus over 3 weeks ago and have yet to be told my installation date. I called 3 times to ask and on each occasion I have been told that I would be called back - no call.

    The last time - last monday - I was told I was made a 'priority case' and that i could expect installation by the end of the week. No call. Monday's call was brought about having spoken to my sister last week who had hers ordered and installed within a week.

    I'm losing my patience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    My advice is to stay well clear of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 mldub


    Traumadoc wrote: »
    My advice is to stay well clear of them.


    Good advice indeed! I am trying to cancel my service with them, what a nightmare! I was left holding on the phone for ages trying to get through to their cancellation dept so decided to email them instead. When they eventually replied 4 days later, it was to advise that they had noted that I had already been onto their customer service and hoped that issue was resolved. No confirmation that they would cancel! They completely ignored my request and all because I had rang a couple of days after the email to complain about the reception and get a technician out (who by the way didn't bother to call at all). Anyway after sending a very irate reply to their email I have now been passed onto the Customer Loyalty Team - whatever that means! As I don't trust them to cancel the service now, I have had to call into my bank to cancel the direct debit just in case...

    I was interested to read an earlier post from a former member of staff of UPC/NTL - if morale is that bad no wonder some of the customer service people are so sullen when they answer the phones! I have to say of all the companies in Ireland that I have ever dealt with, UPC/NTL are the WORST EVER for customer service.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Dublin518317


    I work for them, In what way does the 20mb not work??

    Please let me know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 512 ✭✭✭ROC1977


    take a look at a few of my posts. I'm getting 40meg at the moment. Then 2 mins later getting 0 dl speed and 1440 up. Wired ethernet keeps dropping off. Wirelss on notebook the same problem. Mainly at peek times. Xbox 360 the same losing connection.
    I've formatted HDD's reinstalled windows, TCP optimsed, and about everyother troubleshoot going. I can't find a problem at my end. But UPC say 100% signal when they check my line. But as I said earlier full speed one minute 0 the next. Its on peak times the UPC lines overload.
    Either that or my modem or router is faulty. Looking at posts here some have a great service some up and down. Friend at the end of my block has the same PC and UPC contract and having no problems. So all I can think it is is either modem or router. Might try my old netopia router tomorrow and see if that makes a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    ROC1977 wrote: »
    take a look at a few of my posts. I'm getting 40meg at the moment. Then 2 mins later getting 0 dl speed and 1440 up. Wired ethernet keeps dropping off. Wirelss on notebook the same problem. Mainly at peek times.

    Same problem for the last few weeks at peak times with UPC - quick scan shows a number of UPC users in the area - no imagination when naming wireless routers! so maybe thats part of the issue ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Ill be cancelling NTL at the end of the month. Sick to death of being robbed blind. Getting in Sky. I have paid up for the month so this is the end of it. What is the best way to go about cancelling?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 512 ✭✭✭ROC1977


    Getting sky won't solve a broad band problem. As far as I'm aware no sky broad band in Ireland yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭ohnoigotsick


    only reason i stay with them is because of the analogue signal that can be split round the house.

    as for the service - ok granted it works fine but god forbid if you have a problem.

    i had the same issue with people calling and calling and calling from ntl - this was after i had rang in with a complaint - so i decided to tell the lad on the phone no thanks and preceded to tell him my complaint with ntl's service - he wasn't soon long in ending my call.

    as for the 20 euro cancellation for sky sports and ntl , i can only think of that being as a result of the boxes floating about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭Clover


    Stay well clear as they are to much hassle to deal with when something goes wrong, you will spend 20 minutes on the phone and more than likely get nowhere.

    I have had their broadband package for two years with very little trouble but when I got their tv service installed a few months ago it all went down hill from there, most weekends the would be no tv signal on either box even though the broadband would be working fine:confused: .

    I rang last month and canceled the tv service and sent the letter off , plus complained about the lack of a tv service i was not receiving but getting billed for.

    I rang today to get my bill adjusted and to pay the bill in full and ended up canceling my broadband service and getting rid of UPC/NTL completely.

    They are an utter joke to deal with when you have a problem or a billing issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Remo


    Here here....

    Stay well away from them... you have no idea the amount of stress they have caused me and many other people that I know.

    Sure last week they phoned my friend to say that they now have Broadband in her area. She agreed to the service ( altough I advised her not to ), and they scheduled it to be installed in five days time. They even sent her a txt message to say it would be installed between the hours of 9am and 1pm.
    Well needless to say, they never turned up after her waiting all day in the house for them. There was no call from them.
    When she called them they said they had no record of it !!!

    Well suprise surprise.......

    snip

    Modedits in bold. No need for the name calling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I did the maths and decided to get rid of eircom and go for the phone service.

    Savings about 30 euro a month ( I already have broadband, also upgraded to digital tv)

    I arranged for Friday am.

    On Thursday an automated phonecall asked me to confirm friday am.

    They arrived friday am and installed no prob.

    I got an automated call later that afternoon asking me to confirm that they had arrived on time and done what was needed. Which I did.

    Now I don't work for UPC and we have had our differences in the past, but I'm happy enough so far (keep you updated).

    BTW I still have the analog service for my kitchen tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭stevethesatguy


    My only experience with UPC was when I tried to Order there service 2 months ago, I made 4 telephone calls , I sent in 3 emails and even though I left my contact details no one from the company ever called me back to arrange an installation date and my emails were never answered, if I treated my customers like that , well I would not have a business, I agree with the posters above who commented on how poor their customer service skills are. Thanks be we have Satellite options :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    I have rang Sky 3 times over the last 2 weeks as they sent some letter to my house saying they now can to Sky in our complex.

    Anyway I have left my name and no. 3 times and no one has come back to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    I got the landline added to my service a few months back, told them on the phone that i could only have it installed on a saturday morning or they can forget about it. Shock horror two lads arrived that saturday morning, the only way to deal with ntl is play hardball. I have had the whole downgrade fee attempt when i cancelled my movies...told the customer service agent i was cancelling the direct debit and the box would be sitting outside the front door if they apply the charge....second shock ...they waived it.

    Dont cave or let them move you around departments just tell them this is what you want and if they dont do it then bye bye, we are paying for a service and i for one would rather not have the telly for a day or two if they want to arse about.


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