Randy Orton involved in motorcycle accident.

rovert

From WWE.com:

Randy Orton was involved in a motorcycle accident resulting in him re-injuring his collarbone. Orton had initially injured his collarbone last June at One Night Stand, during his confrontation with Triple H in a Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship.

As a result of re-injuring the collarbone, Orton will be out of action for three months.

Not good, not good at all.

Headshot

rovert wrote: »

From WWE.com:




Not good, not good at all.

he was suppose to show up at summerslam wasn't he

bad news

rovert

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

he was suppose to show up at summerslam wasn't he

bad news

Yes he was.

Maybe not as there is no mention of a hospital or a quote from a doctor etc. Not to mention there is an element to storylinese to how it is written. They have been on a swerving the audience kick with the Adamle announcement etc.

rovert

rovert wrote: »

Yes he was.

Maybe not as there is no mention of a hospital or a quote from a doctor etc. Not to mention there is an element to storylinese to how it is written. They have been on a swerving the audience kick with the Adamle announcement etc.

Or any specific timeframe when the accident happened.

Fozzy

I've got to say that I found it strange to read a return date at the same time as the initial news of the "accident". Either the accident happened a few days ago and it was kept quiet by everyone or there was no accident

If he did reinjure his collarbone in some way then it wouldn't be good, it's the sort of injury that might never heal and it would severely limit him in the ring

EDIT: Or WWE.com just made up a return date

rovert

Fozzy wrote: »

I've got to say that I found it strange to read a return date at the same time as the initial news of the "accident". Either the accident happened a few days ago and it was kept quiet by everyone or there was no accident

Really good point when someone is injured in WWE they normally no longer exist anymore look at Gregory Helms for example. Either that or we are both really jaded Wrestling fans.

Fozzy wrote: »

If he did reinjure his collarbone in some way then it wouldn't be good, it's the sort of injury that might never heal and it would severely limit him in the ring

Also very true.

Tricity Bendix

rovert wrote: »

Really good point when someone is injured in WWE they normally no longer exist anymore look at Gregory Helms for example. Either that or we are both really jaded Wrestling fans.

You can't really compare Helms to Orton. Orton is too over to be quickly forgotten.

rovert

b.ie curious wrote: »

You can't really compare Helms to Orton. Orton is too over to be quickly forgotten.

Not my point. WWE makes no/little mention of injured wrestlers when they are out as they think it detracts from their eventual return.

Firewalkwithme

Bring back RNN I say.

Tricity Bendix

rovert wrote: »

Not my point. WWE makes no/little mention of injured wrestlers when they are out as they think it detracts from their eventual return.

I'm not refuting your point. Alls I'm saying is that you chose a poor example.

rovert

From the ProWrestling.net forums, spoilers just in case:

http://www.wwe.com/worldwide/germany/ortonaug08

Orton was just touring Germany. I think the WWE is trying to work us since Orton made the scrollbar on the side of the site when Kennedy was subjugated to being in the bottom when he got legitimately injured at Macon. The Article about Orton was written on the 11, just like the injury article, so that is odd. I am going to post what the article says because I think it might disappear. Here is what the article says:

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COLOGNE, Germany – Despite being in the midst of undergoing physical rehabilitation for an injured broken clavicle he sustained at One Night Stand, Randy Orton is on a European promotional tour with WWE. While Orton’s mind is clearly focused on returning to in-ring action and going for WWE gold, the Superstar took the time to visit our fans and the media in Germany this week. Orton visited Germany's oldest city, Cologne, to promote the upcoming WWE tour of Germany in September and November. SmackDown returns to Germany Sept. 27. (TICKETS) In Cologne, he was the key attraction at the German music store, Saturn, where tickets for his autograph signing sold out within two days. Throngs of enthralled German and Austrian fans were treated to the rare chance of meeting the Legend Killer himself and the atmosphere was electric with excitement over his anticipated return to the ring. Orton was interviewed by Bravo Sport, a major youth-targeted sports magazine with a readership of 570,000. He answered questions about his career, family background, his clavicle injury and determination to return to WWE action. The Superstar was also a guest at BigFM, one of the most-listened to radio stations in Germany, which focuses on daily news and lifestyle features with a national audience of 1.8 million people. Orton shared his thoughts on Germany and the country’s WWE fans, why and how he became a WWE Superstar, his tattoos, lifestyle and next Sunday’s SummerSlam as well as the upcoming Germany tour. At Express Online TV – the online television outlet of Germany’s second largest daily national newspaper with 4.5 million unique users per month – Orton discussed the upcoming tours and SummerSlam. His interview is expected to be syndicated to the Express TV channel. Orton was also interviewed by WWE Magazine Germany and Power Wrestling magazine. Questions covered the Raw Superstar’s career, his injury, his favorite opponents, matches and the upcoming tour dates. While in Cologne, Orton posed for photos outside Cologne’s oldest and most famous landmark, the Cologne Dom (Cathedral), which will be syndicated to German media. Orton also created trailers to promote WWE on DSF. DSF is WWE’s free-to-air television affiliate, and reaches 35 million households in Germany. At Premiere, WWE’s pay television affiliate which reaches 3.6 million German households, Orton created a short interview and promotional trailers, as well as created material to act as the centerpiece for a week-long, Premiere-funded, SummerSlam promotion. Finally, Orton was photographed signing ringside chairs for a fan auction to raise funds for the German charity Future 4 Kids, a children’s organization. The chairs will be auctioned on a local language eBay in a section specially designed for fundraising.

rovert

b.ie curious wrote: »

I'm not refuting your point. Alls I'm saying is that you chose a poor example.

No, I didnt. Outside of the draft edition of Raw, Orton has been barely mentioned on a week to week basis. Which is the uniform policy for everyone.

Fozzy

I think that bit off the ProWrestling.net forums is wrong, there was an article on Orton's unofficial website dated August 5th saying that Orton was in Cologne: http://www.randy-orton.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1218065872&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1,3& It looks like WWE.com just waited nearly a week to put up photos of it. It's unlikely that he went there, went to the UK, then went back to Germany a week later

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

No, I didnt. Outside of the draft edition of Raw, Orton has been barely mentioned on a week to week basis. Which is the uniform policy for everyone.

Yes you did but it's not a big deal since b.ie agrees with your main point anyway. Helms is nowhere near the same level as Orton so its completely different. Remember I mentioned RNN? That was used to keep Orton in fans minds during a previous injury. Other major players have been given non-competitive on screen roles while they rehabed too.

Firewalkwithme

Fozzy wrote: »

I think that bit off the ProWrestling.net forums is wrong, there was an article on Orton's unofficial website dated August 5th saying that Orton was in Cologne: http://www.randy-orton.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1218065872&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1,3& It looks like WWE.com just waited nearly a week to put up photos of it. It's unlikely that he went there, went to the UK, then went back to Germany a week later

Even so - there is no mention of where the accident (if there was one) happened. Maybe it was in Europe and he finished the promo work anyway.

rovert

Fozzy wrote: »

I think that bit off the ProWrestling.net forums is wrong, there was an article on Orton's unofficial website dated August 5th saying that Orton was in Cologne: http://www.randy-orton.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1218065872&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1,3& It looks like WWE.com just waited nearly a week to put up photos of it. It's unlikely that he went there, went to the UK, then went back to Germany a week later

Good spot.

Save Us Fozzy

CMpunked

Hmmm, thats really really interesting.

At first i was like "Aw S***!"

And the thoughts of whats going on with cena/batista at Sslam?

But wait, wwe have had a recent spell of saying that wrestlers are going to be sidelined for months, look at mysterio or more recently Cena?

Maybe because it was leaked that the plans for randy to make an appearance
at the slam wasnt liked backstage.
If they milk this tonight on raw, you know its a work...

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Yes you did but it's not a big deal since b.ie agrees with your main point anyway. Helms is nowhere near the same level as Orton so its completely different. Remember I mentioned RNN? That was used to keep Orton in fans minds during a previous injury.

RNN was a STORYLINE which lead up to his return. You are getting mixed up here Im talking about when a Wrestler is off TV completely.

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

But wait, wwe have had a recent spell of saying that wrestlers are going to be sidelined for months, look at mysterio or more recently Cena?

This a differnet deal in fairness both just rehabbed quicker than scheduled.

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Maybe because it was leaked that the plans for randy to make an appearance
at the slam wasnt liked backstage.
If they milk this tonight on raw, you know its a work...

I blame Geordie from Sky Sports News's seductive interview style.

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

RNN was a STORYLINE which lead up to his return. You are getting mixed up here Im talk about when a Wrestler is off TV completely.

Of course it was a storyline - but he was still injured. Besides there are other examples such as guys being made G.M. while they rehab so they don't have to be taken off TV. You said that they were always taken off and never mentioned. I'm not the one getting mixed up rovert.

CMpunked

rovert wrote: »

This a differnet deal in fairness both just rehabbed quicker than scheduled.

Maybe not, you not remember that literally 2 weeks before the Royal Rumble Cena done an interview and said that "Rehab was going great and he was sure he would be after Mania before he returned"?

Its just a thought, but its always a possibility to be an angle, after all this is the promotion which has twice tried to "Kill" its chairman...

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Of course it was a storyline - but he was still injured. Besides there are other examples such as guys being made G.M. while they rehab so they don't have to be taken off TV. You said that they were always taken off and never mentioned. I'm not the one getting mixed up rovert.

What I actually wrote and not what you said I wrote:

rovert wrote: »

Really good point when someone is injured in WWE they normally no longer exist anymore look at Gregory Helms for example.

Notice the word normally and not the use of the word always.

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

You know not as a GM or a part of a storyline.

You are trying to change what you originally said rovert. Maybe you should be as specific as you expect others to be. Or God forbid you might actually admit you made a mistake :eek:

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Maybe not, you not remember that literally 2 weeks before the Royal Rumble Cena done an interview and said that "Rehab was going great and he was sure he would be after Mania before he returned"?

What do you mean maybe not? I posted this, which above is replying to:

rovert wrote: »

This a differnet deal in fairness both just rehabbed quicker than scheduled.

Cena did rehab quicker as instread of returning at or after Wrestlemania as scheduled he returned at Royal Rumble ahead of schedule.

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Its just a thought, but its always a possibility to be an angle, after all this is the promotion which has twice tried to "Kill" its chairman...

I and others said this already and this what we are actually talking about in this thread. Welcome by the way.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

You are trying to change what you originally said rovert. Maybe you should be as specific as you expect others to be. Or God forbid you might actually admit you made a mistake :eek:

I didnt change what I said look at post #22 you said I used the world always when if fact I said normally. I didnt make a mistake here, you did. I made no edits to post #6 which is where all this stemed from.

CMpunked

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

You are trying to change what you originally said rovert. Maybe you should be as specific as you expect others to be. Or God forbid you might actually admit you made a mistake :eek:

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

I didnt change what I said look at post #22 you said I used the world always when if fact I said normally I didnt make a mistake here, you did.

Sorry rovert but you just choose to ignore what doesn't suit you i.e.:

rovert wrote:

Outside of the draft edition of Raw, Orton has been barely mentioned on a week to week basis. Which is the uniform policy for everyone.

It's not a uniform policy as anyone can see from the examples I have already given.

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

If you actually read the thread I did admitted my mistake for posting that post for ProWrestling.net.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

It's not a uniform policy as anyone can see from the examples I have already given.

It is the uniform policy for people off television which was the context I was speaking in:

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Outside of the draft edition of Raw, Orton has been barely mentioned on a week to week basis. Which is the uniform policy for everyone.

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

It is the uniform policy for people off television which was the context I was speaking in:

You didn't frame the context very well then did you since you needed to 'clarify' what you meant later :rolleyes:

Fozzy

Am I the only one who knew what rovert meant?...

Firewalkwithme

Fozzy wrote: »

Am I the only one who knew what rovert meant?...

No, it's grand now that he is being clear about it. I only wish for him to live up to the high standards he expects of others.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

No, it's grand now that he is being clear about it. I only wish for him to live up to the high standards he expects of others.

How was that not clear? The draft was Orton's only appearence ON television since the injury, otherwise he has been OFF television it and barely mentioned on a week to week basis.

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

How was that not clear? The draft was Orton's only appearence ON television since the injury, otherwise he has been OFF television it and barely mentioned on a week to week basis.

more twisting and turning - rovert you know what the point was, it's been done, get over it.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

more twisting and turning - rovert you know what the point was, it's been done, get over it.

How exactly is it twisting and turning? How is what Im say now different from what I said in post #6 and #12?

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

You didn't frame the context very well then did you since you needed to 'clarify' what you meant later :rolleyes:

I didnt need to as I remained consistant in what I said.

A person who replies like this asks for clarity, ok:

rovert wrote: »

This a different deal in fairness both just rehabbed quicker than scheduled.

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Maybe not, you not remember that literally 2 weeks before the Royal Rumble Cena done an interview and said that "Rehab was going great and he was sure he would be after Mania before he returned"?

rovert

Enough bitching lets get back on topic.

Firewalkwithme

As I already said, I'm not going over this again, it's been done.

Quote and re-hash all you like rovert but it just makes you look foolish.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

As I already said, I'm not going over this again, it's been done.

Quote and re-hash all you like rovert but it just makes you look foolish.

I hardly came off foolish here in fairness or relatively speaking. So much for people admitting when they are wrong, eh.

Anyway:

rovert wrote: »

Enough bitching lets get back on topic.

Looks like all them majors are reporting this as news not as storyline but are keeping a moderate stance.

rovert

Latest:

Randy Orton escapes accident with only a broken collarbone
Written: August 11, 2008

Randy Orton was involved in a motorcycle accident near his home Sunday night that could have ended his life were he not wearing a helmet.

Orton, who has only been riding motorcycles for a month, said he was riding around a sharp curve on a steep hill home when an oncoming car veered into his lane causing him to widen his turn.

Orton then struck a curb and was thrown from his bike. He collided with the ground, knocking him unconscious. In his words, Orton "bounced and rolled just under 300 feet, landing in a ditch."

"When I came to, I knew I had rebroken my collarbone," said Orton. "When the police and fireman got there, they asked me 'Where's the guy who was in the wreck?' and I said 'It was me.'"

Orton, who was wearing just shorts and a sweatshirt, only sustained the rebroken collarbone.

"Without a helmet, I would be dead," said Orton. "Now that I have a newborn daughter, so much was going through my head."

Although the initial prognosis is that Orton will not need surgery, this injury will set him back an additional three months before he can return to the ring.

Orton did have one final message for his fans ... "I will ride again."

Tricity Bendix

Christ, I feel like I'm on crazy pills here.

The point I was trying to make was that when people being pushed heavily get injured they are not always treated like they no longer exist. Its far more likely to happen to a guy like Helms than it is to a guy like Orton. RNN and McMahon's give-away have already been mentioned, but also if you look at when Lashley was injured he was still getting mentioned by Kennedy.

rovert

b.ie curious wrote: »

Christ, I feel like I'm on crazy pills here.

The point I was trying to make was that when people being pushed heavily get injured they are not always treated like they no longer exist. Its far more likely to happen to a guy like Helms than it is to a guy like Orton. RNN and McMahon's give-away have already been mentioned, but also if you look at when Lashley was injured he was still getting mentioned by Kennedy.

One more time I NEVER said they always treated like they no longer exist which in fact you never admitted to wrongly quoting me say.

If you want to rehash lets rehash:

rovert wrote: »

Really good point when someone is injured in WWE they normally no longer exist anymore look at Gregory Helms for example. Either that or we are both really jaded Wrestling fans.

rovert wrote: »

No, I didnt. Outside of the draft edition of Raw, Orton has been barely mentioned on a week to week basis. Which is the uniform policy for everyone.

rovert wrote: »

RNN was a STORYLINE which lead up to his return. You are getting mixed up here Im talking about when a Wrestler is off TV completely.

rovert wrote: »

How was that not clear? The draft was Orton's only appearence ON television since the injury, otherwise he has been OFF television it and barely mentioned on a week to week basis.

Tricity Bendix

Obviously its not me thats taking crazy pills.

One more time I NEVER said they always treated like they no longer exist which in fact you never admitted to wrongly quoting me say.

Your grammer is so poor I can't make out the last part, but I never said you said they always treat wrestlers like they no longer exist. Its a word I used myself as part of a point I was making, which was in relation to a point you were making but not in direct opposition to it. I even said I wasn't refuting your original point, remember?

As for your little "rehash", I fail to see the point. If your point is that Orton and others rarely get mentioned or are rarely seen when injured, then well done you. I never disagreed with you.

rovert

b.ie curious wrote: »

Obviously its not me thats taking crazy pills.

Your grammer is so poor I can't make out the last part, but I never said you said they always treat wrestlers like they no longer exist. Its a word I used myself as part of a point I was making, which was in relation to a point you were making but not in direct opposition to it. I even said I wasn't refuting your original point, remember?

As for your little "rehash", I fail to see the point. If your point is that Orton and others rarely get mentioned or are rarely seen when injured, then well done you. I never disagreed with you.

Maybe I shouldn’t be posting when work is so busy.

I confused you with Cartoon Head, sorry. I’m just bored with this whole thing and I over reacted.

In fairness my point makes both makes your and Cartoon_Head points as well. As it was hardly a greatly exclusive one on the issue. So why the **** are we arguing here?

EdK

Maternity leave?

Fozzy

Does Orton still live in Missouri? Because their Highway Patrol online crash reports have nothing for Orton: http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/HP68/search.jsp. I'd find that a little odd considering that he said the police were at the scene. Unless he lives in Florida with every other wrestler, but I'm sure I read an article on him recently that says he lives in Missouri

rovert

Fozzy wrote: »

Does Orton still live in Missouri? Because their Highway Patrol online crash reports have nothing for Orton: http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/HP68/search.jsp. I'd find that a little odd considering that he said the police were at the scene. Unless he lives in Florida with every other wrestler, but I'm sure I read an article on him recently that says he lives in Missouri

Not sure but I do know that is no actual news report for the accident.

Machismo Fan

If Orton is to be believed and he was thrown 300 feet, it is highly unlikely that he would only re-break his collarbone.

rovert

Machismo Fan wrote: »

If Orton is to be believed and he was thrown 300 feet, it is highly unlikely that he would only re-break his collarbone.

Wasnt thrown 300 feet he rolled for it but the point still stands.

mrpobb

i can't wait for him to come back and kick ademle in the head

CMpunked

The following was posted on Randy-Orton.com last night:

"i was ran off the road last night at 1030 by a car that had its hi beams on and was veering into m lane during a sharp turn a the top of a hill near my home. i had no choice but to crash, and was thrown 300 feet from the concrete block that sent me flying. i was traveling about 30 miles per hour. i'm lucky to be alive. i have some pretty severe skinned up areas such as my left knee right foot, and left shoulder trap. wwe. com should be posting that it wasn't 30 feet but 300 soon. i just called and bitched em out, for the typo. i was wearing a helmet, and if not for that i would have without a doubt been a goner. i see what the extent of my rebroken collarbone is tommorow. ill let you all know. the bike was a harley fat bob, and it was a rental. it is totaled.im happy im alive, and that the bike wasn't mine. all i could think about was my daughter and samantha. God was definetly watching over me!!

rko"

......

Fozzy

Machismo Fan wrote: »

If Orton is to be believed and he was thrown 300 feet, it is highly unlikely that he would only re-break his collarbone.

I can understand that happening. But it would mean that his collarbone couldn't have been close to being fully healed. If he got roughed up a bit and his collarbone snapped, then the same thing would likely have happened in the ring after a big bump