Using your looks and charm to get free things.

Nevyn

Personally I think it's a scuzzy thing to do, which is why I found this ad so shocking. What do you ladies think ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFUVZqeCa4

Jules

I just saw the ice cream.... hold on..

/me watches again

Yeah i agree a horrid thing to do but unforunately its the way of the world. The prettier ones go further most of the time.

Latchy

That kids got talent ,the little girl is cute to

panda100

Thats a pretty bad ad to be aimed at children. Young kids acting as adults is creepy!That boy kid is creepy!

Latchy

Nah , it's just a funny add for selling ice cream

Any man who falls for this **** deserves whatever he gets. Also any woman who tries it is laughable.

I was in Dicey Riley's when 2 stupid D4 girls tried to get myself and a friend to buy them glasses of red wine. I asked the barman for 2 glasses of blackcurrant in wine glasses and we walked off laughing. We'd seen them do it to 2 other guys from across the room 20 mins before. They both deserve to be unhappy with abusive husbands with lots of money imo.

Anti

Its the way of the world, and rightly so.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

It's a very sad way to be. I hate seeing women do it....and it never works on me!

Quality

She wont be too charming or pretty if she keeps eating ice creams like that, I would say that is her full RDA of calories...

Oryx

Jules wrote: »

I just saw the ice cream.... hold on..

/me watches again

My sentiments.:)

Other than the icecream I just thought it was a stupid ad. If it was a grown woman getting a drink that way it would be cliched and silly, using a kid is supposed to make it cute. Didnt work for me, I just thought it was lame, without even getting to whether its inappropriate or not. Id say it appeals to the same demographic who enter their 4yo daughters in beauty pageants (a la little miss sunshine).

I buy my own drinks and icecream, so maybe Im just bitter.

Drift

To be fair to ye wimmenz there's not actually that many women around who try this sort of thing (at least in my social group anyway). Having said that one or two have tried to get free stuff out of me - I think they deliberately target the "average" looking guys because they think it'll work better on us. I have to say that the look of :eek: on their faces when they don't get things that easy is a joy to behold.

A while back a girl walked up to me in supermacs one night and "suggested" I buy her a burger; which i did. When I handed to her and said "That'll be 2.50* please," she was none too impressed. Had to go to her friend to get the money. In the end I couldn't take it off her cos I felt a sorry for making her feel bad (even though she probably does it most nights) but I made a mental note to beware next time!

R0ot

Yes that's it! Lets teach our children to get by on looks alone, exactly the message that needs to be sent out there. Although I suppose with the obesity problem in the States (and growing problem here in Europe) it's not that bad an ad.

BrynW

BrynW wrote: »

It's a very sad way to be. I hate seeing women do it....and it never works on me!

Its amazin how many still have the neck to try. I often get girls tryin to get me to buy them drinks...the only thing it buys them is a nice polite "Get lost".

Peared

It'd be nice if kids got another year or two out of life before figuring out that lookin hawt gets you places and people are generally shallow sh1ts and men fall for it every...ok most times.

But this is the world we live in.

Next thing ya know, nappies will be printing logos on the bum.. 'bite me' and such.

Sigh

Meh!
I've more respect for someone who uses charm to freeload, than someone who uses the emotional blackmail that is biological responsibility.

MLE

I agree that trying to get someone to spend money on you is a bit silly alright.

But I have to admit that I use my charm to my advantage as Im sure anyone who can does. The most obvious example I can think of is if I need help with something in work and the only person who can help me is always really busy, well I would be sweet and nice to get a few moments of their time. And of course I would always give my time if they needed it.

Is that the same thing... although I wouldn't go looking for free drinks or anything.

Aisling(",)

one of my friends get drinks bought for her every night she goes out.she has a great body and just kind of flirts and teases lads till they buy her a drink then she wanders off a while later.she has a boyfirend aswell.it drives me mad

jtbub15

oh my god that ad is brill!! If you can get away with it.....why not!!!:D

ChewChew

I would have considered this is the thing to do by 17/18 year old girls. maybe girls up too about 21 or 22 even. Anyways thats neither here nor there.Personally, I hate this kind of thing! If I wanna go out and have a good time, I make sure I have enough cash on me to get me through the night.

If I DONT have the cash, I DONT go out. I most certainly do not go on the hope that I can catch a few lads off their guard and get them to buy me drinks.

girls who do this are tastless, sleazy, disrespectful little so and so's.

stovelid

Aisling(",) wrote: »

one of my friends get drinks bought for her every night she goes out.she has a great body and just kind of flirts and teases lads till they buy her a drink then she wanders off a while later.she has a boyfirend aswell.it drives me mad

To be honest, the guys are the mugs for doing it.

It's a convenient form of idiot tax even if the person doing it isn't being nice.

Oryx

jtbub15 wrote: »

oh my god that ad is brill!! If you can get away with it.....why not!!!:D

Sooooooooo many reasons, and none of them have to do with getting fat on icecream.

ChewChew

Oryx wrote: »

Sooooooooo many reasons, and none of them have to do with getting fat on icecream.

+1

only a cheap, tarty girl would justify doing this to a guy.

2Scoops

Jules wrote: »

its the way of the world. The prettier ones go further most of the time.

Up as far as the glass ceiling, at least.

Cokehead Mother

I don't really see a problem with using your looks/charm/orifices to obtain material goods or favours, and I have no disrespect for people who do so.

Aisling(",)

Aisling(",) wrote: »

one of my friends get drinks bought for her every night she goes out.she has a great body and just kind of flirts and teases lads till they buy her a drink then she wanders off a while later.she has a boyfirend aswell.it drives me mad

:mad::mad::mad:

I havent met your friend and I already dislike her! That said, the lads are worse. From her perspective there's always another sucker around the corner.

ChewChew

Aisling(",) wrote: »

one of my friends get drinks bought for her every night she goes out.she has a great body and just kind of flirts and teases lads till they buy her a drink then she wanders off a while later.she has a boyfirend aswell.it drives me mad

you mind me askin how old is your friend?

Alicat

I don't really see anything wrong with using a bit of charm to get some help with something as a previous poster said. It's about being nice to the person in the hope that they'll be nice back to you.

But this looking for freebie stuff is bollocks. I've seen girls fluttering their eyelashes to skip queues and get free drinks out of lads and it drives me nuts. Grow the f*ck up, wait your turn and pay for your own bloody drinks. If someone really wants to buy me a drink or something, and they're doing it because they want to, I can accept that and appreciate the compliment.

I hate scavengers!! I hope their ugly personalities start to show through in their looks, sooner rather than later.

Peared

Getting back to the ad though, is the crappy part not that she's a kid using her looks to get stuff in an overly aware 40 year old hooker in a bar kinda way?

Very different to a 20 year old 'Im so hot, watch this, girls' kinda situation.

Zaph

MLE wrote: »

I agree that trying to get someone to spend money on you is a bit silly alright.

But I have to admit that I use my charm to my advantage as Im sure anyone who can does. The most obvious example I can think of is if I need help with something in work and the only person who can help me is always really busy, well I would be sweet and nice to get a few moments of their time. And of course I would always give my time if they needed it.

Is that the same thing... although I wouldn't go looking for free drinks or anything.

I think that's a bit different because you're prepared to reciprocate. For example, I've always been good friends with the people in the IT department in work, and it generally means that if I need something in a hurry the chances are they'll give me priority over someone else. The flip side is that if they need some testing or something done, I'll always make myself available to help them. nothing wrong with a bit of quid pro quo, it's the abuse by one side not giving something back is the problem.

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

I don't really see a problem with using your looks/charm/orifices to obtain material goods or favours, and I have no disrespect for people who do so.

I have to say that it dismays me to think that any woman who posts in this forum would have so little respect for themself, or other women, that they'd post that.

jellie

i now have a giant craving for a brownie & some icecream...

i have a friend who recently told me about how at the weekend she managed to flirt her way in somewhere for free. she was so proud of herself, because "all the girls" do it & shes never been able to do it before. by "all the girls" she means another group of friends shes met recently, d4 types.

ive known this girl years, & shes pretty & she knows it. shes actually a lovely girl & theres no harm in her whatsoever, shed be there in a second for you if you needed her, but its times when she says stuff like that i just despair of her. she was so happy she had managed to get herself in somewhere for free, like that proved her worthy of something. id rather pay than lower myself to that to be honest.

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

I don't really see a problem with using your looks/charm/orifices to obtain material goods or favours, and I have no disrespect for people who do so.

sooo.. prostitution then..?

Cokehead Mother

Zaph wrote: »

I have to say that it dismays me to think that any woman who posts in this forum would have so little respect for themself, or other women, that they'd post that.

If you disagree with people whoring themselves out, then fine, but it'd be really great if you didn't assume that I've no self-respect or respect for other people purely because I think prostitution is ok.

Stheno

Zaph wrote: »

I think that's a bit different because you're prepared to reciprocate. For example, I've always been good friends with the people in the IT department in work, and it generally means that if I need something in a hurry the chances are they'll give me priority over someone else. The flip side is that if they need some testing or something done, I'll always make myself available to help them. nothing wrong with a bit of quid pro quo, it's the abuse by one side not giving something back is the problem.

I'd agree here, expecting/trying to get something due to how you look etc is not something I'd agree with.

Zaph

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

If you disagree with people whoring themselves out, then fine, but it'd be really great if you didn't assume that I've no self-respect or respect for other people purely because I think prostitution is ok.

Your original post makes no mention whatsoever of prostitution. If someone chooses to make a living that way then who am I to argue with their choice. However, if someone prostitutes themselves in a non-professional capacity, e.g. sleeping their way into a better job or so that a man will buy them nice things, then that to me is morally indefensible. They instantly lose my respect, as does anyone who thinks that this is ok. And on a much lower scale, I don't have a lot of time for freeloading women who think that if they bat their eyelashes at me it entitles them to a free drink or whatever.

Latchy

This song popped into my head while reading this thread

''Some of them want to use you ,some of them want to be used by you ,some of them want to abuse you ,some of them want to be abused ''

Eurythmics

metaoblivia

I can't imagine just walking up to someone and asking them to buy me a drink, or expecting someone to buy something for me. In a book store once, a guy behind me offered to buy me the books I was taking up to the register and I refused. I found it really creepy, tbh. He was a complete stranger.
I have gotten out of a few speeding tickets by crying. But they weren't crocodile tears, they were real.

Crumble Froo

definitely disagree with the ad on principle, though, i guess at least the mother looked more shocked than proud, which is one good thing, i guess. i do have a mate who, if she ends up meeting (kissing) a fella at a nightclub, will sorta expect him to buy the drinks. she'd never ask outright, but is always thrilled when it happens. i roll my eyes mostly, i love her to bits, but some things we'll just never agree on.

Reku

Peared wrote: »

Next thing ya know, nappies will be printing logos on the bum.. 'bite me' and such.

Sigh

Thankfully unless the company's marketing director is into scat I can't see that particular logo being printed.:eek:

Knew a girl in college who got loads of free stuff at (nerd) games conventions by this method, but then if there was anywhere it was bound to work a place where the gender odds are as biased as they are at those things would obviously be it.

Suppose it's a milder form of con-artistry really so not something that should be encouraged. Thankfully I don't think I've ever had a girl try this sort of thing with me, but then I tend to look a bit hostile and even without attempts at coaxing am usually generous enough if I don't think the person's a moocher anyway (which attempts at coaxing me into being generous will of course make me suspect you of being).
e.g. the two street beggars I've given the most money to in the last few months are the old lad who just kneels there hands in front of him, overlapped and palms up and the girl who sits outside supermacs with her art. The lad never says a thing to ask for money, never causes any trouble, just stays there kneeling and moves on without a fuss if asked to move, have a lot of respect for him. The girl has talent IMO and it's a shame to see it going to waste as she can't afford a place to stay never mind classes to help her make the most of it.:(
The lads who come up asking for money, half the time they even have slurred speech so I'll give them a little (like to try give them the benefit of the doubt [have had one or two repeat "I lost my bus fares" though, one idiot tried it on consecutive days!:mad:), but then you'll usually still get "aw, you couldn't spare another fiver could you, I only need €X?!" - there's gratitude for you....:rolleyes:

Zaph wrote: »

Your original post makes no mention whatsoever of prostitution. If someone chooses to make a living that way then who am I to argue with their choice. However, if someone prostitutes themselves in a non-professional capacity, e.g. sleeping their way into a better job or so that a man will buy them nice things, then that to me is morally indefensible. They instantly lose my respect, as does anyone who thinks that this is ok. And on a much lower scale, I don't have a lot of time for freeloading women who think that if they bat their eyelashes at me it entitles them to a free drink or whatever.

I suppose when you break it down to its base level blagging (think that's the term for trying to flirt/charm your way to free things) isn't that different to prostitution/escourt services, only significant difference being that I'd imagine the prostitution/escourts have a more clear and defined pricing on the service - "pay x and get y", as opposed to "well if you pay x you might get y".

Dragan

BrynW wrote: »

It's a very sad way to be. I hate seeing women do it....and it never works on me!

Then your doing it wrong! :pac:

As a dude i really don't mind this type of behaviour. If someone is stupid enough to get charmed then so be it.

Nothing to do with the fact that i have charmed myself into some pretty decent situations in the past.

Equal rights and such.

Femelade

I think i have done it to an extent..like, if i am stuck at a junction, it will usually a guy that will let you out. (but i in turn let people out of junctions too if there is a long queue of traffic behind me)
Once i was at a garage getting a part for my car..it was over €200..so i turned on the charm ( i was also wearing my work uniform which always helps with every situation i have been in wether i ask for it or not) and got it for cost price, i saved about €20 i think.

MissyKiki

I wish I was blonde!

WindSock

I'm pretty sure Ive had things done and bought for me in the past because people think I am charming. If people want to buy me things/do things for me, that's fine. I don't expect it and they shouldn't expect anything else in return from me.

Oryx

Femmy wrote: »

i was also wearing my work uniform which always helps with every situation i have been in wether i ask for it or not) .

Which begs the question, what do you wear to work??

ntlbell

I think the ad is great and a few years ago I would of been that kid sucker!

It seems pretty harmless to me.

Look, if you're good looking or have a charming smile things like this will happen all the time like it or not a lot of people treat people based on how they look.

If you're the cutey getting free stuff your not going to mind

if you look like the back of the bus with a puss on you you'll begrudge..

that's life

Kazobel

There's a gay guy that works in the pharmacy where I get my hormones in town that always gives me stuff if there's an offer, now I don't mean stock or anything, it'd be you know those promotions where if you spend so much on make-up you get a gift pack with loads of free samples? anytime there's something like that on I'll get the gift pack, I'm under no illusions that it's because he fancies me or anything (why would he I wouldn't be his type) but he's always real friendly with me I'm not slagging him or anything but he's very camp (my favorite gay type) and is bloody awesome for make up tips, I only go in once a month for my prescription but I'm usually there for about an hour chatting to him, a few times I've even walked out with a bag of brand new tester make up just because he thinks it'll suit me, he saves me a bloody fortune

The guys in the local shop have given me credit at times until I get paid but I do flirt with them at times, nothing seedy I'll just take the time to chat if I'm there and they just know me well now, there's also a guy in the local off licence that only charges me cost if I go in and a barman in the local bar that will serve me straight away no matter how many people are at the bar and if I go in with my sis and neice for dinner on a weekend won't charge me for anything my neice wants(Dinner/crisps/lemonade, she's only 3). Can't say I know exactly why they do it but it's not like I'd complain On the other hand I've never accepted a drink if some guy I didn't know bought it in a bar, I always buy my own for two reasons 1. I don't want to give them the wrong idea and a guy that buys you drink all night expects more than a pat on the back and an "I'll see you around sometime" and 2. I don't trust anyone not to spike me (massive generalisation I know but, for me, I prefer to be safe than sorry)

daiixi

If someone is dumb/happy/generous enough to give people things for free just because they're cute/flirty/charming then isn't that their problem?

Catari Jaguar

That little girl won't be able to use her looks for much longer if she keeps eating those fudge sundaes.

I think men are stupid horn dogs and if they are that easy to manipulate then go ahead. Some women have brains in spades, some have charm and some have looks. Do what ya gotta do!

Zaph

Lil Kitten wrote: »

I think men are stupid horn dogs and if they are that easy to manipulate then go ahead.

I'd qualify that and say that some men are. There's a good proportion of us capable of thinking with our brains and not just our groins.

Latchy

Zaph wrote: »

I'd qualify that and say that some men are. There's a good proportion of us capable of thinking with our brains and not just our groins.

Exactly, which is why lots of women go for and are attracted to complete bastards
.

Phlann

I had an acquaintance who used to get roped in by this sh1t all the time. He was a nice enough guy but was a virgin until quite late (lost it to a prostitute in SE Asia in fact - but that's another story) and would go mad at even the faintest whiff of a possibility of getting laid. Girls used to fleece him for three or four drinks a night and then bugger off without even a peck on the cheek.

I used to feel pretty sorry for him, it's awfully bad form and I think it really humiliated him at times. It's generally done by the kind of girl who thinks all men are assholes anyway so who cares if you make them look stupid... (ie girls who are total tw@ts)

It's only happened to me personally once and she got absolutely nothing out of me. Just laughed in her face, told her she was neither pretty enough nor skinny enough to pull off that routine and walked away

I hope it happens again some time. I love screwing over people like her.

Black Swan

Humourous thread, especially some of the lofty comments. Such ads will continue to appeal to primal needs, because they sell products. Attractive girls and young women showing a bit of skin in seductive poses on SUVs, trucks, and Harley's come to mind. Or partying in a pub with lads drinking Bud. If you've ever been a clothes horse, you know what is being sold... or why would "Walk the walk" and "Look the look" be so important to what you're wearing? LOL!

Femelade

Oryx wrote: »

Which begs the question, what do you wear to work??

Lets just say..Promotional Work.