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Beauty Therapy

  • 28-06-2008 10:47am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I am based in Dublin north and just curious if anyone has done any accredited beauty thereapy courses here?

    I have been looking around lately but there are so many to choose from and with so much info its starting to get overwhleming!

    What courses have you done and where??

    Does anyone have any college suggestions?

    I was looking at the www.beautyacademy.ie site but it only has an ITEC cert and I was thinking maybe its not enough. In this day and age I think I would need something a bit more accredited? If I could afford it I would love to do the course in Dun Laoghaire Senior College but man, going back to school full time would be a major shock to the system, never mind the pocket!!

    If there are any beauty thereapists / or poeple who have done the courses, what would you suggest, where to start that would give good qualifications and make me ready for a job after the course?
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    hey,

    So you're looking to do it part time is that what you're saying?

    I can tell you anyway that the Beauty Therapy course in SCD is brilliant. I have a friend who teaches on it and 5 friends who have done the course. I'd say if you're looking to do it full time you'll be looking at paying alot.

    There's places like
    Bronwyn Conroy (http://www.bronwynconroy.com/index.htm ),
    Coogin Bergin (http://www.cooganbergin.com/beautycourses.htm),
    Portobello (http://www.portobelloschool.ie/pagecarrier.aspx?pageid=3) and Galligans (http://www.galligangroup.com/galligan/Main/Home.htm)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭Cupcakes


    My friend did Beauty Therapy in Crumlin College. They do full time and part time courses. http://www.crumlincollege.ie/pages/full/full.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭d-redser


    Cupcakes wrote: »
    My friend did Beauty Therapy in Crumlin College. They do full time and part time courses. http://www.crumlincollege.ie/pages/full/full.html


    Cupcakes, what did your friend think of Crumlin College? Did she do it full or part time?

    I was thinking about doing this too but it would have to be part-time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    hey,

    So you're looking to do it part time is that what you're saying?

    I can tell you anyway that the Beauty Therapy course in SCD is brilliant. I have a friend who teaches on it and 5 friends who have done the course. I'd say if you're looking to do it full time you'll be looking at paying alot.

    There's places like
    Bronwyn Conroy (http://www.bronwynconroy.com/index.htm ),
    Coogin Bergin (http://www.cooganbergin.com/beautycourses.htm),
    Portobello (http://www.portobelloschool.ie/pagecarrier.aspx?pageid=3) and Galligans (http://www.galligangroup.com/galligan/Main/Home.htm)

    I would love to do it full time but I really have to sit down and work it out money wise etc.

    Your friends that completed the SCD course, do you mind me asking if they got good jobs after they finished the course? I am 29 so a bit wary about going back to school fulltime plus I would probably be the oldest in the class:o

    I noticed that Bronwyn Conroy offer a combined part-time course in Beautician & Electrolysis. The cost is €4000 :eek: and it is accredited by CIBTAC. I will pay it only once I know if it is worth it and that I would be able to get quite a good job after..

    any thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    I have decided that I am going to try and find a way to do this course full time.

    It makes more sense to do the course full time and then try and find some part time work for evenings & weekends. I was told that after the 1st 3 months I will be a qualified Beauty Specialist and be able to charge people for their waxing/facials etc... Just have to work up a client base.

    So now I just have to decide on which college to go for.

    SCD - CIBTAC Accretided, Crumlin College - CIDESCO or a private school which gives 3 certificates at the end - ITEC, CIBTAC & CIDESCO...

    HELP!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    In the 2nd year of Beauty Therapy in SCD you do CIDESCO. i'm not sure which was it actually works, like you get your qualifications or something and then you have to work up a certain amount of hours to get the overall CIDESCO one.

    SCD is great for a cv when looking for jobs too. It's not that you'll get 3 certificates. I can't remember exactly what the subjects are but ti's the same as when I did Holistic Therapies in SCD, i did whatever number of massage courses and i have 7 diplomas from my 2 years and then there's an overall Holistic Therapies one. For certain anyway you will have your Anatomy & physiology one and your body massage so that's 2 in the bag anyway!

    When they say full time they don't mean 9-5 everyday! I was in at mixed hours and had fridays off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    I rang them this morning and they are fully booked :( this year. So is Crumlin College...

    Very disappointed :(:(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    That's the thing about Dun Laoghaire it's very popular so you have to get in early and they have a long waiting list then for people who drop out etc! Now unfortunately is too late yeah! That's a pity!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭flynnser19


    i might be going to crumlin too cause i wanna do it part time aswell and i have a few interviews for day jobs in dublin. is it hard to get to from the city centre???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    flynnser19 wrote: »
    i might be going to crumlin too cause i wanna do it part time aswell and i have a few interviews for day jobs in dublin. is it hard to get to from the city centre???


    I doubt it would be too hard... they have listed the busses that will drop you near enough..
    Dublin bus provides the following services linking with Crumlin:
    17 Blackrock - Rialto
    18 Sandymount - Palmerstown
    19 Cedarwood Road - Dolphins Barn
    19a Glasnevin - Dolphins Barn
    50 City Centre - Firhouse
    56a City Centre - Tallaght
    77 City Centre - Crumlin Road - Jobstown, Tallaght
    77a City Centre - Crumlin Road - The Square, Tallaght
    83 City Centre - Kimmage
    121 Cabra - City Centre - Clogher Road - Drimnagh
    122 Cabra West - Drimnagh
    123 Griffith Avenue - South Circular Road
    150 City Centre - Willington Roundabout
    155 City Centre - Sundrive Road - Greenhills
    210 City Centre - Crumlin - Bawnogue


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler



    Your friends that completed the SCD course, do you mind me asking if they got good jobs after they finished the course? I am 29 so a bit wary about going back to school fulltime plus I would probably be the oldest in the class:o

    I noticed that Bronwyn Conroy offer a combined part-time course in Beautician & Electrolysis. The cost is €4000 :eek: and it is accredited by CIBTAC. I will pay it only once I know if it is worth it and that I would be able to get quite a good job after..

    any thoughts?

    Apologies, I never saw this post. well one of the girls works in the Four Seasons, another is well known name in the industry, working for a company who supplies a lot of skin care ranges, make up, wax to the salons in the country and she goes and trains all the qualified therapists how to use the products they sell, another is a beauty therapy teacher. The others have all got good jobs in salons! if it is a salon you want to work in. There is definitely jobs out there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Beautybeanie


    What beauty courses have you done and where??
    Cert III Beauty Services (eg. NVQ3 equivalent - Beautician's qualification)
    Diploma of Beauty Therapy - Sydney, Australia (Beauty Therapist)
    Grad. Diploma Dermal Science - Perth, Western Australia (Skin Therapist)
    Does anyone have any college suggestions?
    Research thoroughly. I can't emphasise this enough. Do you know what is happening in the beauty industry right now? Pay little attention to ITEC/CIDESCO/CIBTAC and more attention to how the college delivers its education and what they educate you in and whether it is relevant. For example, electrolysis is not used widely anymore as it has been largely superceded by IPL and SIPL. If you don't know what these are, this is further reason to educate yourself on what it is you need to know. After all, fat lot of good you'll do with your career if you pay $$$$$$ only to find out that your skills are current. And believe me, I've met a lot of Irish beauty therapists coming over here to Australia on working visas who are caught short because of exactly that.
    If there are any beauty therapists / or people who have done the courses, what would you suggest, where to start that would give good qualifications and make me ready for a job after the course?
    Start with a lesser qualification than the Diploma. That way, you won't be inundated, you can master the basics, hook into salon life and hone your skills set as well as earn money at the same time. Then, when you're ready, proceed with further studies at which time you are well able to work independently (ie for yourself) and, as such, well may be able to deduct the cost of those studies as a tax deduction. (That's how I did it).

    If I could add further suggestions: 1. Consider what it is you want to do exactly in your beauty career and look at what the market is doing. Salon work is lowly paid work and is not the be all and end all: there are many facets to the beauty industry. For example, the spa industry is booming and huge growth is anticipated in Ireland in this area over the next five years. Will your course be able to equip you to be able to work in a spa?
    2. Consider other modalities that complement beauty therapy. For example, I took additional education in film/tv/stage make up as this was my market niche and I trained further in massage therapy because it gave me a better employment opportunity (in Australia, formal beauty & massage therapy qualifications are a good marriage). Friends of mine have taken on other courses such as personal training, styling and airbrushing techniques which has ensured them a good position in the market.
    3. Keep abreast of changes. Apart from what I said about hair removal methods, waxing has gone through changes as has nail technology as well as treatment regimens for skin conditions such as psoriasis.

    Ultimately, when in doubt, don't. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    Cert III Beauty Services (eg. NVQ3 equivalent - Beautician's qualification)
    Diploma of Beauty Therapy - Sydney, Australia (Beauty Therapist)
    Grad. Diploma Dermal Science - Perth, Western Australia (Skin Therapist)

    Research thoroughly. I can't emphasise this enough. Do you know what is happening in the beauty industry right now? Pay little attention to ITEC/CIDESCO/CIBTAC and more attention to how the college delivers its education and what they educate you in and whether it is relevant. For example, electrolysis is not used widely anymore as it has been largely superceded by IPL and SIPL. If you don't know what these are, this is further reason to educate yourself on what it is you need to know. After all, fat lot of good you'll do with your career if you pay $$$$$$ only to find out that your skills are current. And believe me, I've met a lot of Irish beauty therapists coming over here to Australia on working visas who are caught short because of exactly that.

    Start with a lesser qualification than the Diploma. That way, you won't be inundated, you can master the basics, hook into salon life and hone your skills set as well as earn money at the same time. Then, when you're ready, proceed with further studies at which time you are well able to work independently (ie for yourself) and, as such, well may be able to deduct the cost of those studies as a tax deduction. (That's how I did it).

    If I could add further suggestions: 1. Consider what it is you want to do exactly in your beauty career and look at what the market is doing. Salon work is lowly paid work and is not the be all and end all: there are many facets to the beauty industry. For example, the spa industry is booming and huge growth is anticipated in Ireland in this area over the next five years. Will your course be able to equip you to be able to work in a spa?
    2. Consider other modalities that complement beauty therapy. For example, I took additional education in film/tv/stage make up as this was my market niche and I trained further in massage therapy because it gave me a better employment opportunity (in Australia, formal beauty & massage therapy qualifications are a good marriage). Friends of mine have taken on other courses such as personal training, styling and airbrushing techniques which has ensured them a good position in the market.
    3. Keep abreast of changes. Apart from what I said about hair removal methods, waxing has gone through changes as has nail technology as well as treatment regimens for skin conditions such as psoriasis.

    Ultimately, when in doubt, don't. :)

    A lot of information there! I will print if off and go through it properly later when I'm finished work.

    But here is a quick run down of the courses I'm looking at. They all have a very similar course content.
    Skin and Eye Treatments - To include Facials, Eyebrow Shaping, Brow & Lash Tinting
    Makeup Application - Day, Night & Bridal
    Manicure & Pedicure Treatments
    Hot & Cool Waxing Methods
    Anatomy & Physiology
    Professional Conduct & Business Awareness
    Holistic Body Massage
    Facial & Body Electrical Treatments
    Electrolysis

    Once I am finished this course I will want to do Reflexology, further massage courses, electrical treatments (endermologie etc).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    My parents said they will help me with the cost of the course if I want to go to a private college for it!!

    I am ecstatic! :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    Oh that's brilliant! Congrats! My parents have been paying me to go to private college for the last year, I'm so grateful. Get used to the "Can i just have a little massage??"

    Once you have your anatomy and physiology it opens up alot more for you. in SCD in beauty therapy they do aromatherapy & reflexology as part of the beauty course too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    Oh that's brilliant! Congrats! My parents have been paying me to go to private college for the last year, I'm so grateful. Get used to the "Can i just have a little massage??"

    Once you have your anatomy and physiology it opens up alot more for you. in SCD in beauty therapy they do aromatherapy & reflexology as part of the beauty course too!

    What college do you go to Lil' Smiler??

    I would love to study the reflexology, really fascinates me.. Once I finish the course I know I will have a much better point of view and want to study further in different areas..

    It really is a pity I cant go to SCD. When I rang up they said they are holding a beauty open day on the 16th so I might pop along to that anyway, wont hurt to have a "wee nose" :D

    Is there much need for Electrolysis in ireland do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    I was doing more research on beauty therapy courses and I came across this site http://dife.info/newsite/1024by768/home.htm what do you guys think???

    I emailed them and they still have places left. What do you think of the course itself compared to the private one costing €6k ??

    VEC: http://dife.info/newsite/1024by768/home.htm
    Private: http://www.beautyacademy.ie/beautytherapy.html

    It looks like I might have to do 2 years if I choose the VEC??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    are those 2 places near enough to you?
    In any case if you do choose the VEC, you can work after the first year because you'll have qualifications

    I've never heard of the VEC college, might have heard of the other one but I don't know, I'd look at it carefully and see if you know anyone who's been to any of the colleges you've been looking at.

    I'm not in SCD anymore, I've gone onto study Physical Therapy so I'm more in the massage/sports injuries end of things!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Beautybeanie


    Once I am finished with this course I will want to do Reflexology, further massage courses, electrical treatments (endermologie etc).

    Endermologie isn't worth doing a course for. It's basically a galvanic treatment. But you'll find this out as you progress.

    I'm afraid I'm not the one to speak to regarding course content as City Guilds/NVQ isn't accepted here. I'd say Lil Smiler would better qualified to advise you in that regard.

    If anything, I'd look at course content as opposed to cost and length of time. There are some truly crappy courses out there and plenty of colleges only too happy to take your money off you. Regarding the length of time spent at school, unless you have prerequisite courses that would allow you to register them as recognised prior learning, I would expect a Diploma to be more than a year at college. Over here, a Diploma of Beauty is around 18 months to 2 years (depending on the units you take) and a Diploma of Massage Therapy is normally 12-18 months but core units are shared with the Dip BT making it less time if you have that. With massage one has to take courses and seminars during the year that earn credit points so that your qualification remains current.

    To give you an idea of the standard, graduates of the above courses can get into university with a year's credit. Most choose a Bachelor of Health Science, Naturopathy, Acupuncture, things like that.

    Have you considered going to a few salons in your area and speaking to beauty therapists? Chatting with someone who's been where you want to go is always a good idea. Stay away from the disillusioned ones, though! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    are those 2 places near enough to you?
    In any case if you do choose the VEC, you can work after the first year because you'll have qualifications

    I've never heard of the VEC college, might have heard of the other one but I don't know, I'd look at it carefully and see if you know anyone who's been to any of the colleges you've been looking at.

    I'm not in SCD anymore, I've gone onto study Physical Therapy so I'm more in the massage/sports injuries end of things!


    Yea the two places are around 25min drive max away.. and it's against traffic which is great :D

    I dont know anyone that has done Beauty Thereapy full stop so I have no one to advise me on which course would be the best one to take.

    I posed in the Louth section asking for people's opinions on the college itself so hopefully I might hear back.

    Otherwise I am still stuck, I completed an online application for the college just to keep my options open, if I can save myself (parents) €6k then I will!!

    Lil'Smiler, by looking at the courses and contents of each, which do you think would be the better option?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Beautybeanie


    I dont know anyone that has done Beauty Thereapy full stop so I have no one to advise me on which course would be the best one to take.

    1. Walk into a salon, any salon. Ask to speak with a beauty therapist. Alternatively, talk to one during an appointment.

    2. Contact the Irish Beauty Professionals Association. They were very quick to respond to my queries about qualification equivalency - and I'm not even in the country! Their site is http://www.ibpa.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    Beautybeanie,

    Sorry I only seen your 2 posts now.

    Thanks for those suggestions, I will email them now and see what they say...

    I have an appointment on Sunday for a medi pedi (which I have never had before and badly need!) so I will ask loads of questions there also..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    I definitely agree with beautybeanie

    Medi pedi... amazing!! I'm trained in them. Really really amazing!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    Ok after a long think and a bit more research I am going to go with the Galligan Group.

    Only problem is I have no idea when the course starts and how much it is (although they all seem to be around the same price).

    I have rang and left a voicemail, emailed and sent a message on their website...

    They must be off for the week or just really busy..

    Just wondering if anyone here knows when they are starting and how much they are? (I trawled through their website but cant see fee's or start date anywhere).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Lil' Smiler


    I'd presume mid september kinda time.

    Hmm quite unprofessional of them not to get in touch, give them time I suppose. maybe they're just on hols


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭northdubgal


    I know..

    I suppose it doesn't help that I am really impatient!

    I finally know what I want to do career wise and I am eager to get going and I want to know that I have a place secured on this course!!

    i will give them a ring in the morning from work and hopefully get to talk to someone then..

    Thanks for all the help and advice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    Hi guys, I know im jumping onto this thread now but......... I got my interview for Beauty Therapy in a few weeks for a private collgege (saving my ass off and going to go by night ) but I need help. Im at a serious loss as to what to say in the interview?????
    I know i must tell them why I want to do it but as there are only about 18 places for this course I really want to impress!! Any one have any ideas or experience they could share as I could do with some advice/tips ???
    Thanks in advance :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mini mouse


    it's been a few years since I trained but I found in my interview that what they really were looking for is someone who genuinely wants to be a therapist and is not looking at it as their back up plan ( i dont mean to generalise but it does happen)) ....it's a tough job and you really have to love it to succeed !
    don't stress about it - just be yourself and im sure you'll have no problems!
    they'll prob ask why you want to be a therapist, what areas interest you- salon work, spa work etc, what do you imagine the job would be like?

    have you worked in a spa/salon environment at all before? If not and you're really looking to impress at the interview why not ask your local spa and//or salon if you can work with them for a day or two? it would show them how much you want to be a therapist !

    best of luck with you're interview, let us know how you get on !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    Thanks a mill for that!!! :)
    Just got a call and have my interview on Wednesday morning of next week.

    :eek:

    Going to have to look imaculate and have myself really prepared becasue I HAVE to get in!! :o Cant wait now xxx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mini mouse


    ah that's great!!!! best of luck with it now!!
    let us know how it goes!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    Thanks a mill, interview is tomorrow morning @9 so Im starting to get really nervous now!! :eek:
    If anyone has any last minute tips Id really appreciate it xxxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mini mouse


    get a good nights sleep, dont wear too much make up and RELAX!!!
    keep us posted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭flynnser19


    ive my interview for dun laoghaire on the 27th may at 12!!!wat should i wear???should i bring something???????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    Woohooo got in! She said they usually dont tell people until August but there was no point in waiting as I fitted the criteria! Im absolutely delighted!!! And so relieved! Thanks for the advice! :D xxxxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    flynnser19 wrote: »
    ive my interview for dun laoghaire on the 27th may at 12!!!wat should i wear???should i bring something???????????

    We were told that we didnt need to bring anything with us, depending on the college tho you may need to bring a copy of your leaving cert results with you. Ring the college and ask id say to be sure.
    I went in with natural enough make up and a grey office pants with a white tank top and yellow (lemony) coloured short sleeved cardigan over it. Just a small silver necklace and no other jewellery. Just wanted to look clean , neat and tidy and it seems to have done the trick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭mini mouse


    congrats smiley!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 liz51


    Congratulations! :D

    Im going to do one too, just trying to decide which college.

    What college did you go for?

    Im just wondering, is it hard to get a job once you finish the course?

    Like I have looked up a few job advertisements for beauty therapists, and all say min 2 years experience... how are you supposed to get experience? Do you have to do unpaid work experience, or training or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    liz51 wrote: »
    Congratulations! :D

    Im going to do one too, just trying to decide which college.

    What college did you go for?

    Im just wondering, is it hard to get a job once you finish the course?

    Like I have looked up a few job advertisements for beauty therapists, and all say min 2 years experience... how are you supposed to get experience? Do you have to do unpaid work experience, or training or something?

    Aw thanks a mill, im actually so happy about it you'd swear I just won an oscar or something! I just really cant wait to start! :D

    Im in Cork so I applied to Susan Ryans Beauty School, Its a private college so its pricey but worth taking the loan out for I think! Im nearly 23 now so the fact that I wasnt coming straight from leaving cert helped I think. She said that they wait on results before making a decision for people coming from school.Also that its great having people who are mature and enthuastic applying.

    Depending on all this recession bizz I dont really know how hard or easy its gonna be to get a job afterwards, apparently Beauty Therapy and similar industries havent been hugely hit so far, I may be wrong.

    Minimum 2 years experience? God if thats true then anyone coming out of college are gonna be screwed!! :eek:
    I called a few beauty salons and spa's in my area here to see if they take people straight from the course once completed and anyone iv spoken to has said that yes they take them and its a highly recognised course so I think Il be ok, hopefully!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 liz51


    ah well thats good, i didnt think of ringing salons, duh... :)

    i know i cant wait for it either! it will be great doing someting you love

    was going to do the part time evening, but i wouldnt make it in after work, so gonna do the Saturday one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    liz51 wrote: »
    ah well thats good, i didnt think of ringing salons, duh... :)

    i know i cant wait for it either! it will be great doing someting you love

    was going to do the part time evening, but i wouldnt make it in after work, so gonna do the Saturday one


    ya give a few a ring , they were really helpful and nice when I asked anyway. :)

    Its great that its not a full time day course isnt it? theres lots of different options so its more do-able when working etc.
    Im working full time (trying to pay for half of the fees ) so im gonna do it by night, apparently lots of study to do but when its only for one year I dont mind, just gonna work my a** off :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 liz51


    yea same here, im just gone 23 too, im not old enough to go as mature student, so have to pay the fees...

    but i wouldnt be able to go back to being a full time student with a part time job anyway, the drop in wages would kill me

    yea it will be tough goin, especially getting models to practise on and stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭smileysurfer


    liz51 wrote: »
    yea same here, im just gone 23 too, im not old enough to go as mature student, so have to pay the fees...

    but i wouldnt be able to go back to being a full time student with a part time job anyway, the drop in wages would kill me

    yea it will be tough goin, especially getting models to practise on and stuff

    a friend of mine is 25 and still has to pay the same fees as me, in the private ones I dont think it matters what age you are unfortunately! :(
    Also we were told yesterday that we wont need models until the end of yr for the exams , we'l need one model then for 3 days.
    All other practice is done on each other in class which is handy! Oh we'l be soo groomed!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Curvy Vixen


    Well done ladies!

    Let the work begin!!

    The A&P side is equivalent to first years nursing and I think that this is the most shocking thing for most people who do beauty therapy. It is hard work but well worth it.

    And although all colleges are different I assume that you will work on each other during the year and you will actually need a model per governing board exam, so if you are doing ITEC and CIBTAC you will need a minimum of two models as you would be waxing both so can't recycle them :D

    I love doing both my beauty therapy and also the massage year I went on to do though..hard work, but worth it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Rachob


    hey girls,

    Just wondering if anyone has any updates on the courses they did - if they were happy with the training and whether or not they gained work after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭beauty101


    Rachob wrote: »
    hey girls,

    Just wondering if anyone has any updates on the courses they did - if they were happy with the training and whether or not they gained work after?


    I did beauty therapy for 2 years in SCD full time and would recommend it to anyone.

    I thoroughly enjoyed the course..all the products are professional like the 1s you would use working in a salon..Dermalogica, Thalgo, Decleor, Matis etc

    After 2 years I came out with a CIDESCO + CIBTAC Beauty and Body therapy diploma. I also have diplomas in electrolysis, aromatherapy, reflexology, advanced waxing, gel nails, ear piercing and endermologie...all from just 2 years.

    I already had a job in a salon before I even started the course because I'm a MUA too but my other friends in the course have mostly all got jobs now in salons :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 shiner92


    Hi,

    Hoping someone can give me some info on courses. The one in SCD sounds great and good for the pocket but i called them and totally booked and 2waiting lists......good luck with that eh!

    So called Bronwyn Conroy,so expensive. Is it good does anyone know?

    Know Coogan Bergin is meant to be good but someone told me that owner is scary:eek: and also super expensive.....is it worth it?

    What kind of money can u expect to earn afterward?Going back at 27 so don`t wanna go into somethng where il be struggling to live. Interested on holistic side of things but told must to beauty therapy first as base.

    Some help would be lovely.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭beauty101


    shiner92 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Hoping someone can give me some info on courses. The one in SCD sounds great and good for the pocket but i called them and totally booked and 2waiting lists......good luck with that eh!

    So called Bronwyn Conroy,so expensive. Is it good does anyone know?

    Know Coogan Bergin is meant to be good but someone told me that owner is scary:eek: and also super expensive.....is it worth it?

    What kind of money can u expect to earn afterward?Going back at 27 so don`t wanna go into somethng where il be struggling to live. Interested on holistic side of things but told must to beauty therapy first as base.

    Some help would be lovely.

    Thanks

    Bronwyn Conroy + Coogan Bergin are both good but extremely expensive and to be honest I think SCD is better (maybe thats just me being biased) but in Bronwyns I hear you even have to bring your own towels + cotton wool which is a little ridiculous! However they're both good schools with high standards + good reputations.

    With SCD you do and interview around Jan/Feb to enroll for the following Sept. In SCD in 1st year you do CIBTAC Beauty + body therapy + ITEC reflexology..so 3 diplomas at the end of it. In 2nd year you do CIDESCO Beauty + Body Therapy, ITEC Aromatherapy, CIBTAC Electrolysis, they may also be introducing ITEC laser + IPL into the course next year..you also have the options to do gel nails, spray tanning, advanced waxing + endermologie.

    If you want to do Holistic Therapys that NOT true whatsoever about having to do beauty therapy first. For courses like indian head massage, baby massage, aromatherapy, reflexology, acupressure, sports massage, tuina etc you need a prequisite(not sure how to spell that) Anatomy + Physiology/Body Therapy diploma...some Holistic therapy courses like the 2 year one in SCD don't require this as they do it as part of the course. But there are other colleges where you can do a short 6 month A+P course.

    Beauty/Holistic Therapists usually start off on minimum wage-€10 per hour..usually after 2 years experience you get offered a better wage...usually along the lines of 23k-25k per annum...the most I've ever heard a beauty therapist on was 35k per annum for a senior therapist..obviously if you progress to management you could be earning more. + tips do help...I used to make up to 50 euro in tips a day when i was in the salon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 shiner92


    Hi,

    Thanks so much for getting back to me, really appreciate any info.

    So annoying because i do actually want to do the one in SCD as heard only good things,and obviously costwise its better.problem is im being impatient and dont want to wait another year, just want to get started you know. woman i asked in SCD sounded like no hope trying the way waiting list is, she was also the one who told me id need to do the beauty therapy first.

    what to do,what to do. really cant afford other ones whilst only workin part time and studying full time. euromillions!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Rachob


    Hey

    Thanks for all the info, I was in SCD a few years ago studying a different course, I didn't love the place so would be reluctant to go back! In saying that, there does seem to be a vibe on the internet tht it is one of the good places to study beauty therapy. I am also inclined to think that spreading it out over two years is possibly better than packing it into one as the private colleges do.

    However, I am thinking of doing this as a career change and want to get work in it asap, so one year may be better in that regard. I went to look in Coogan Bergin, was a bit taken aback that they only have 2 teachers and a small premises and can't quite see where the 6,250 you pay is being spent.

    Has anyone been here and what did ye think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Storminateacup


    Hi guys, could anybody please offer any info on the beauty therapy in LA make up?


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