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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    People care to speculate what has been the cause of the apparent low turnout? Could it be the public's resignation to being asked again and again until they vote yes?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    When can we expect the first indications? When would the result be expected??

    DeV.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    People care to speculate what has been the cause of the apparent low turnout? Could it be the public's resignation to being asked again and again until they vote yes?

    I'd say it could be a win for the "If you don't know, don't vote" campaign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭ircoha


    DeVore wrote: »
    When can we expect the first indications? When would the result be expected??

    DeV.
    full result tmrw afternoon, tallies by noon


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    IRLConor wrote: »
    I'd say it could be a win for the "If you don't know, don't vote" campaign.

    I really hope so. I also think that most people who made up their minds at the last minute went for Yes, at least judging from boards posts. Hardly scientific though. I won't hold my breath.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Yesterday I was sure of a No win. I would have thought a low turnout would be a No turnout because of the sexiness of the No campaign. I thought there wouldn't be as many yes people coming out because there isn't so much of an incentive for them but pundits seem to think it's the opposite so I dunno.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    cornbb wrote: »
    I really hope so. I also think that most people who made up their minds at the last minute went for Yes, at least judging from boards posts. Hardly scientific though. I won't hold my breath.

    On my way home from work today I over heard a group of women (about 7) who were discussing the vote. They were deciding which way they would vote (communally as a whole). They changed their minds about 3 times in the time it took the traffic lights to change. It was as casual as deciding whether to have pizza or chinese. The last I caught from the conversation someone said I think we should vote no. The rest said "yeah your probably right". If one of them had of said "I think we should just vote yes" they would have all casually voted yes. They might as well have flipped a coin. I think they were just out for a walk to the polling station tbh.

    I wonder how many last minute voters (a) turn up and (b) decide in a way other than what there mate decides at the last minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭carveone


    clown bag wrote: »
    They changed their minds about 3 times in the time it took the traffic lights to change. It was as casual as deciding whether to have pizza or chinese.

    Man, I need a drink... :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    carveone wrote: »
    Man, I need a drink... :(

    I want a pizza.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Antithetic wrote: »
    I want a pizza.

    No, you should really get chinese... just click link in my sig and read about-

    Ok, time to shut up now :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    We can have both!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭carveone


    cornbb wrote: »
    No, you should really get chinese... just click link in my sig and read about-

    Ok, time to shut up now :D

    ROTFL! Ok, that's freaking funny.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    We can have both!

    Way ahead of you:


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    We should send this pizza and wine back again and again until we get the wine and pizza we believe we are entitled to! :)

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    The exit poll on politics.ie has both sides painfully close.

    Personally hoping

    *the working class vote came out.
    My dad is the classic working class voter. Labour/Sinn Fein depending on candidates, not a second of time for Libertas, strong trade unionist values but highly skeptical of further immigration. Odd mix, will never understand it myself- but its very common. He's a fireman, the entire station voted no today. Around here (Ballyfermot) turnout seems to have been steady enough. Walkinstown was packed too. Mams side are FF since the 20s....they voted no too.

    *the farmers vote no
    i think a lot of farmers will vote no. two-way bet. i think the IFA were merely covering themselves anyway in the event of a yes vote, i can't see the rank and file voting yes now.

    *fine gael/fianna fail ripped each other apart
    its your fault! no its your fault! i don't know how many people bought the 'i'm ****ting it-you?' united front, and ff attacking fgs efforts hopefully got the leinte gorma rank and file behind a no :pac:

    *the roscommon/monaghan/galway protest votes
    and the fisheries too. These votes will play a huge part, hopefully.

    *The trade-unionists
    Unite and several other strong unions will hopefully deliver today.

    *skepitcal people came out
    the middle class liberals (richard boyd barrett? nearly elected? you're having a laugh...), republican fianna fail voters, mcevaddy business types, the gay byrne lovers, the 'democratic deficit' people, even the bloody mad pro lifers..... (*though I've said from day one abortion is a non-issue. I'm pro choice, and wear that on my sleeve)

    2 minutes left.
    I'm hoping for a resounding no!
    A croissant and a Danish pastry (get it?) on Satusday morning maybe.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    DeVore wrote: »
    We should send this pizza and wine back again and again until we get the wine and pizza we believe we are entitled to! :)

    :D

    This is one of the things that I have no problem doing again and again and again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭Breezer


    DeVore wrote:
    We should send this pizza and wine back again and again until we get the wine and pizza we believe we are entitled to! :)
    But if we keep that up we'll eventually starve to death, while others get fat on Chinese food ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    My polling station was deathly quiet when I arrived up around half 5. Apart from myself, there was one other couple and those working looked bored out of their minds.

    However, when the guy was flicking through the sheets for to cross off my name, I noticed that about 90%+ of every sheet was crossed off, thankfully.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    RTE said that the turnout was 40ish% at 2210.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭Fast_Mover


    Id believe it.
    My polling station was fierce quiet when I went in to vote at 4pm, only myself and my mother were in there. When they were crossing my name off the sheet hardly any of it was marked.
    My father was the last of my family to vote, he went in at 9.30pm tonight and said it was very quiet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yesterday I was sure of a No win. I would have thought a low turnout would be a No turnout because of the sexiness of the No campaign. I thought there wouldn't be as many yes people coming out because there isn't so much of an incentive for them but pundits seem to think it's the opposite so I dunno.

    RTE are suggesting a 40% turnout which is fairly typical but imo deeply embarrassing. Passed or not it is hardly resounding when only 20.04% (assuming 50.1% of 40%) of the eligible vote end up making a decision on it.
    As pointed out somewhere else, probably by Scofflaw, the No vote that comes out in these types of referenda is hard core and tends to be fairly fixed. Nice 1 was defeated with a 35% turnout and Nice passed with 50% or so turnout. Generally speaking the higher the turnout goes above 40% the more likely a non abortion/divorce referendum will be passed. What will decide it is the proportion of those who were "deeply unhappy" with it in polls, who actually bothered to vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    IRLConor wrote: »
    RTE said that the turnout was 40ish% at 2210.
    Quite disappointing considering how important the issue is. 67% turned out for the last General Election, yet don't bother for something I'd consider a lot more important.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭StickyMcGinty


    Rb wrote: »
    Quite disappointing considering how important the issue is. 67% turned out for the last General Election, yet don't bother for something I'd consider a lot more important.

    hardly.

    theres plenty of reasons why referenda usually have a lower turnout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    hardly.

    theres plenty of reasons why referenda usually have a lower turnout.

    I wonder how many people find it vaguely ludicrous that we are expected to respond to a 200 page question with Yes or No. This is what lawyers and politicians are for- to negotiate the details so we don't have to turn off the PS3 and read about politics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Rb wrote: »
    Quite disappointing considering how important the issue is. 67% turned out for the last General Election, yet don't bother for something I'd consider a lot more important.

    +1 on that. Imo there's not all that much difference between the main political parties likely to be in power after a general election (I'm almost equally unimpressed with all of them but I still vote though of course), so I rarely seel local or general elections of being likely to lead to major changes.

    I really do feel that a No vote here will do significant damage to our relationship with Europe and as this comes at a time of global economic uncertainty, a significant downturn in our construction and property markets, and reduction in attractivenss of Ireland as base for foreign multi-nationals due to high costs, I fear we would look back on a No vote in 20 years time with much regret.

    The COIR group were right in stating 'It'll cost you' on their posters, I just feel they got it wrong in believing it is a Yes that will cost us.

    I hoped for a Yes but I now fear it will be a No, or at best a Yes by a tiny margin of a pathetic turnout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Thought folks might find this interesting:
    One of the country's leading bookmakers, Paddy Power, decided within minutes of the polls closing to pay out early to those who had bet that the Yes campaign would win.

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0613/1213305635509.html

    While thats pretty unique, do I remember PP not getting stung on something like this before?

    edit: Oh, and click through the link and open up the front page photo large. Its great :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    crash_000 wrote: »
    Thought folks might find this interesting:



    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0613/1213305635509.html

    While thats pretty unique, do I remember PP not getting stung on something like this before?

    edit: Oh, and click through the link and open up the front page photo large. Its great :D

    Now that's gone and gotten me all excited. If a no vote happens now I will be very upset.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Given that its a 50% turnout, i will be surprised if the Yes camp do not win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Just home from a night out... turn-out only in the low 40% range, which has the Yes side sweating.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    I am very disappointed that so many people could rationally convince themselves to vote no. I despair for my country. Too many have such short memories and are so easily mislead by neo socialist scaremongerers purporting to offer a better way. My bollix. The younger set seem to think that a certain nameless party actually offers a better alternative (nameless because of all the grief you get here when you mention them in any disparaging way). More and more frequently wonder why I choose to live in Ireland other than the fact that I was born here. Its hardly worth having pride in anymore with so many far left loonies and dressed up thugs getting so much say. Here's hoping common sense prevails and YES wins.


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