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construction studies!

  • 09-06-2008 4:57pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10


    any one any good advice for construction??
    out of a book with 25 chapters my teacher covered 4 or somethin so im just lost =[
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Such a vast course ! My teacher reckons plumbing is dead set to come up to do with hot and cold, indirect sytems, all that. Planning Permission seeing as it seems to come up every year and just foundations for houses and all that really. I know its not much but its a start seeing as we get no prediction help or anything !:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭lol5605


    lucky you, all I've done since 1st year was a week of exams papers before the mocks, I've been teaching my self with the exam papers and solutions lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 coolcailin


    anyone no if the u-value come up every year?i heard it does but not sure :confused:
    if so ill learn that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 InVikingWeTrust


    coolcailin wrote: »
    anyone no if the u-value come up every year?i heard it does but not sure :confused:
    if so ill learn that

    its a Banker!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭A.Partridge


    Also....read up on the staircase.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Diarmsquid


    coolcailin wrote: »
    any one any good advice for construction??
    out of a book with 25 chapters my teacher covered 4 or somethin so im just lost =[
    Try doing the past papers. The questions have a habit of repeating themselves.
    coolcailin wrote: »
    anyone no if the u-value come up every year?i heard it does but not sure :confused:
    if so ill learn that
    Yeah, it was for the last number of years anyway. I'm not sure if it's 100% garunteed, but you'd be mad not to learn it. And...


    ...OMG! A GIRL DOING CONSTRUCTION?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭BJC


    Yeah, U-value, Plumbing, Planning permission and any drawings you can remember. Passing is easy since we're already 50% finished, A's are like trying to catch a greased up deaf guy however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Dr.Millah


    Hey guys. This is one of my strong subjects, but im having a small bit of difficultly with the U-Values question. We never did it in school so ive spent the morning learning how to do it.
    There is one part im cant fiqure out on the 2006 hl paper q5 part b.

    The formula is grand but then it gets to the calorific value (37350) and it devides it by 0.315k.j.s i know this is the answer from the forumla devided by 1000 but i do not know why it has been done? my book (construction studies today) does not seem to cover this area.

    Any help would be great, thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 coolcailin


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    ...OMG! A GIRL DOING CONSTRUCTION?:eek:


    haha :p theres three of us in my year!!

    thanks for the help!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ianmull


    Hey, I did this subject in my LC last year and I really liked it and didn't think it pretty hard...
    Foundations is something worth revising....plumbing systems aswell are quite popular....the U-value comes up every year and is a great mark earner if you know how to do it. As far as I can remember we got asked nearly the exact same question as the one asked in 06' and I was lucky I just revised it before heading into the exam, solutions are hard to find but examinations.ie has em up I think but im not too sure...
    Second floor openings/sound transmission, roof structure, walls are also worth a look and are popular. the q1 is handy enough, they always ask to incorporate some feature into it but the idea is a stencil from the book...if your doing tech drawing it can be helpful. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭luke999


    Yea, can there be more than one full drawing question asked? They wud be handy marks. On theleavingcert.com they had a file with all the drawings in it, but it looks like the page has been deleted. Did any1 download it and would be willing to share it on msn? This could be worth starting a thread for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ianmull


    luke999 wrote: »
    Yea, can there be more than one full drawing question asked? They wud be handy marks. On theleavingcert.com they had a file with all the drawings in it, but it looks like the page has been deleted. Did any1 download it and would be willing to share it on msn? This could be worth starting a thread for.

    True, there are two drawing questions asked and one is compulsory...so you have to learn them all anyways and if you know the second one they ask, its well worth doing...tis what I did I think. I had those very drawings from theleavingcert.com and studied them and yeah, they seem to be deleted now. I could have them somewhere but I'll have to check...;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭teckoda


    I really hate the U-Value question. I still have about 1/3 of the course to cover myself. I was doing construction in limerick tutorial college and our teacher had wrote the book himself. So I learned most of my stuff there until i returned to my old school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭luke999


    Aw man i deleted em too... ok let us know of any success. Did they give measurements on those drawings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Diarmsquid


    http://Diarmsquid.fileave.com/ConstructionDrawings.zip

    Is that the file you were looking for?
    I remembering downloading that a while ago. Just uploaded it to that website there a sec ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Dr.Millah


    Thanks for that Diarmsquid!
    I never even heard of a concrete flat roof aha.
    I find the drowings a small bit harder to follow to the freehand ones i have in my notes but there quite good none the less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭luke999


    thats the exact one! thanks a mill diarm!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 RA253195370HK


    Eco-friendly building, timber frame and all that crap is guaranteed to come up according to our teacher..

    Im not really worried about it at all, did a decent project and did well on the practical joint so Ive probably nearly passed already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Dr.Millah


    I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have the solution to the pres paper we did this year?
    If there are more than one, it is the one where the u values are on a pitched roof with 100mm glass fiber insulation.
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 coolcailin


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    http://Diarmsquid.fileave.com/ConstructionDrawings.zip

    Is that the file you were looking for?
    I remembering downloading that a while ago. Just uploaded it to that website there a sec ago.



    :eek:nice one :D

    still so screwed for it tho!!!
    i hope a designy kinda one comes up!!i love those


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Dr.Millah


    Dr.Millah wrote: »
    I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have the solution to the pres paper we did this year?
    If there are more than one, it is the one where the u values are on a pitched roof with 100mm glass fiber insulation.
    Thanks
    Nobody?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 haywire


    please help i did a heritage project for my project and my teacher says i will get close to full marks however my teacher is a lazy sod and never taught us anything except silage tanks and watertight chimneys???cud they come up?wud i be able to learn the u value before next week also???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭luke999


    yeah the u value is easy, ill tell u how to do it tmo. Ull pick it up after the 1st go. Just sleep for tonight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Doorzie


    haywire wrote: »
    please help i did a heritage project for my project and my teacher says i will get close to full marks however my teacher is a lazy sod and never taught us anything except silage tanks and watertight chimneys???cud they come up?wud i be able to learn the u value before next week also???


    I think u mean septic tanks you idiot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 haywire


    ooppps ye i did jus shows how much i know hahahah
    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭phase-3


    any predictions for Q 1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭BJC


    Time to drag this thread off from page three!
    Any more idea's anyone. So far This thread has hinted towards:

    U Value*
    Planning Permission*
    Foundations/flooring
    Roofs (pre-fabricated and otherwise)
    The Septic Tank
    Stairs (especially the drawings)


    * More or less gauranteed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Dr.Millah


    Yep,
    i need to go over the planning, find it a boring area of the course but its a very likely topic to come up.
    There is usualy another drawing question besides q1 aswell so if you know your details your sorted!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 frankysaysrelax


    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    Try doing the past papers. The questions have a habit of repeating themselves.


    Yeah, it was for the last number of years anyway. I'm not sure if it's 100% garunteed, but you'd be mad not to learn it. And...


    ...OMG! A GIRL DOING CONSTRUCTION?:eek:

    ...Can u credit it..:eek:...ha ha im a girl i do it... why not like!:cool:i did a model bridge for my project oh god never again!not gona like looked rather impressive was a lift bridge got it to lift up and down and all...it was really more of an enginnering project ha..
    im thinking the fireplace/chimney has a good chance of coming up in Q.1..just a feeling really...u can never tell...
    and yup U values nearly always a banker..cant say i like them i love the question 10s...that just me...no


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 john-btid


    coolcailin wrote: »
    haha :p theres three of us in my year!!

    thanks for the help!



    this is more rare than a nice principal.

    can i have your autograph lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Hey!!!:D i could reli do wit some tips 4 Q1???
    Any ideas???....besides fireplace????:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭i-cheat


    wat percentage of the overall grade is the written exam worth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    i-cheat wrote: »
    wat percentage of the overall grade is the written exam worth?

    50%,
    practical is 25 and project is 25 for honours, not sure about ordinary though.
    Think Theory is only worth 200 marks in ordinary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭i-cheat


    ah feck i was hoping that the written would only be like 25%!!! construction studies is a joke of a subject nearly all the teachers are ****e that teach it:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Nikkio237


    john-btid wrote: »
    this is more rare than a nice principal.

    can i have your autograph lol
    Diarmsquid wrote: »
    Try doing the past papers. The questions have a habit of repeating themselves.


    Yeah, it was for the last number of years anyway. I'm not sure if it's 100% garunteed, but you'd be mad not to learn it. And...


    ...OMG! A GIRL DOING CONSTRUCTION?:eek:

    Lol, there's five girls in my class doing construction, out of around 25 or so. Not as rare as you might think!!:D

    So does anyone on this thread have a teacher that's actually taught the course? Mine, like others mentioned, is useless. One 40 minute class a week is not enough!! I've learned most of the course myself! Any other tips besides those mentioned?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 moosejoose


    We have an unbeleivable construction teacher best teacher in the school and there is over 100 teachers in our school. BTW we have 3 girls doing construction in our class. I hope to f*&k that bloody chimney question doesnt come up the worst question on the whole leaving fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭pink-mist


    Right...my teacher wasnt too bad at all, he was a bit of an ass but he did the course.

    He wrote -one- of the mock papers, not the one that my school got, but he gave it to us for revision before school ended and said it was based on what he thought was to come up.

    ~ Planning Permission
    ~ U-values (total banker,unfortunatly im dreadful at maths)
    ~ Stairs - bottom 3 steps detail
    safety precautions and design features.
    ~ Sound & Soundproofing rooms
    ~ Removal of waste, septic tanks etc.

    Also for the drawing question FIREPLACE is one that may come up. DOOR had been asked quite regularly so that is also likely....
    And perhaps, window cill and head, maybe incorporated with sus.timber floor or something. thats higher level btw.

    also...im one of two girls in the class for whoever said it was rare hahaha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 yipenyapen


    I'm a girl too..
    One of 5 in my class about about 15..

    Not that rare. :)
    xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 john-btid


    no teacher buts in an effort because the corse is so wide and there is so little time to do it in,they really depend on the practical etc for students to do well tbh.


    but anyay can someone tell me the forumula for the luxs/light question i cant remeber it


    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 frankysaysrelax


    pink-mist wrote: »
    Right...my teacher wasnt too bad at all, he was a bit of an ass but he did the course.

    He wrote -one- of the mock papers, not the one that my school got, but he gave it to us for revision before school ended and said it was based on what he thought was to come up.

    ~ Planning Permission
    ~ U-values (total banker,unfortunatly im dreadful at maths)
    ~ Stairs - bottom 3 steps detail
    safety precautions and design features.
    ~ Sound & Soundproofing rooms
    ~ Removal of waste, septic tanks etc.

    Also for the drawing question FIREPLACE is one that may come up. DOOR had been asked quite regularly so that is also likely....
    And perhaps, window cill and head, maybe incorporated with sus.timber floor or something. thats higher level btw.

    also...im one of two girls in the class for whoever said it was rare hahaha

    i had that pre..the q1 was fab....
    my teacher was a bitch with the marking nobody got over a c...
    oh god i hope they ask loads about designing a room 4 people with wheelchairs thats a nice 1....
    or conservation thats farley easy 2...
    if septic tank comes up ill be sick....i hate it loads
    i dont think the window and door will come up they came up 2007 and 2006....:mad:wouldnt have minded the door..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Hahaha i think my class wins!!!....im 1 of 11 girls out of 11!!:D....n last yr der wer 27 girls!!!:P

    roll on septic tank!!!....love it!!!...n stairs!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭pink-mist


    Yeah septic tanks not so much...
    Its just so boring that i cant get it into my head!

    Well my bets are its either going to be door or fireplace...
    Ugh its tomorrow, im so not ready!
    Does anybody have all the measurments in mm for the stairs?
    The download (above) has bad labels...

    :)

    ALSO - Anybody know how to make a room soundproof apart from adding insulation in the floor/walls/celing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Ya its is bu i no it 4 sum reason!!!....did it as research in pro!!!

    nothing 4 u download!!! sorry!!!
    550<2R+G<700......max rise=220 n min going=220!!!
    most important thing!!!
    im so screwed...a week off was the worse thing evr...taut i was fin r summit!!! whoops!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭pink-mist


    thanks, thats even a help.
    Never did that drawing in class so im working from the book and some of the measurments are in meters... im awful at maths so im a bit lost!!

    Ouch, you didnt have spanish no? I had that today but some have been off for a week or so, must be awful!! I'm not drinking or going out until its all over, its torture! But 2mro at 5 im done :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Double up 12.7mm plasterboard
    Sand plugging in groundfloor roof/1st floor
    staggering battons etc
    use quilt insulation instead of rigid!!!:D......i think/hope!!!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Just multiply by 1000!!!
    nope been off 4 1full wk!!!...taut it was great!!....worst thing evr!!! slept in evry mornin n did no study!!:(

    ya im d same n all my 4nds finished n goin out n stuff!!!...its horrible!!...headin straight out after exam 2mro!!!...if im not deeply depressed!!!lol!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭pink-mist


    Awesome thanks for insulation stuff ;)

    Ouch, i did only a tiny bit of study at the end of 5th yr and a bit for the mocks so i stayed in all week before the exams and studied my ass off, and every day i had spare (well most...there were a few cinema trips hehe).I feel like such a loser :P i'll make up for it in parties this week though!

    oh btw, think soil investigation might come up to let ya know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 steffi-nof


    Ya me 2!!!:D:D

    Dats brill!!!:D tranx a million!!!...gotta do sum study i suppose!!:(
    besta luck 2mro!!!:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭pink-mist


    no worries ;)

    thanks to you aswell for the tips!
    Good luck!! I hope we all do great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Diarmsquid


    ...Can u credit it..:eek:...ha ha im a girl i do it... why not like!:cool:i did a model bridge for my project oh god never again!not gona like looked rather impressive was a lift bridge got it to lift up and down and all...it was really more of an enginnering project ha..
    im thinking the fireplace/chimney has a good chance of coming up in Q.1..just a feeling really...u can never tell...
    and yup U values nearly always a banker..cant say i like them i love the question 10s...that just me...no
    Nikkio237 wrote: »
    Lol, there's five girls in my class doing construction, out of around 25 or so. Not as rare as you might think!!:D

    So does anyone on this thread have a teacher that's actually taught the course? Mine, like others mentioned, is useless. One 40 minute class a week is not enough!! I've learned most of the course myself! Any other tips besides those mentioned?
    moosejoose wrote: »
    We have an unbeleivable construction teacher best teacher in the school and there is over 100 teachers in our school. BTW we have 3 girls doing construction in our class. I hope to f*&k that bloody chimney question doesnt come up the worst question on the whole leaving fact.
    pink-mist wrote: »
    Right...my teacher wasnt too bad at all, he was a bit of an ass but he did the course.

    He wrote -one- of the mock papers, not the one that my school got, but he gave it to us for revision before school ended and said it was based on what he thought was to come up.

    ~ Planning Permission
    ~ U-values (total banker,unfortunatly im dreadful at maths)
    ~ Stairs - bottom 3 steps detail
    safety precautions and design features.
    ~ Sound & Soundproofing rooms
    ~ Removal of waste, septic tanks etc.

    Also for the drawing question FIREPLACE is one that may come up. DOOR had been asked quite regularly so that is also likely....
    And perhaps, window cill and head, maybe incorporated with sus.timber floor or something. thats higher level btw.

    also...im one of two girls in the class for whoever said it was rare hahaha
    yipenyapen wrote: »
    I'm a girl too..
    One of 5 in my class about about 15..

    Not that rare. :)

    xx
    steffi-nof wrote: »
    Hahaha i think my class wins!!!....im 1 of 11 girls out of 11!!:D....n last yr der wer 27 girls!!!:P

    roll on septic tank!!!....love it!!!...n stairs!!!:D

    Wow. I didn't realise there were so many.

    Take it back so...


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