All Ireland Event Part 2

Fallschirmjager

Gatling wrote: »

just hope all those who plan on actuly attending the next event pays upfront in full ,to save all the messing over bookings and failing to turn up

most excellent point. which ever site wins needs to consider this.


We probably should consider an end date for voting? I propose 31 May as the close date to see which site people prefer.

what say ye?

NMC

Seems good falls.

Dr_Pepper

Return of The Gathering at GTAC sounds like a good plan.
Since they were planning another event it would make sense to go with theirs.

That and the place is Epic, truly Epic

ED E

By the looks of it we may have a problem, the results are continually tied! It was 8-8 last time I looked and now its 26-26...we may need to flip a coin.

sci-ops

I voted for G-tac as I love the site, but just curious, was there a reason why the site in Longford was excluded?

kdouglas

30-26 now...

I say we close the poll on the 31st

Dont forget that while GTAC hosted the gathering last time, it's not known yet if Drogheda could host this event and nobody has actually spoken to john about it yet that I'm aware of.

kdouglas

sci-ops wrote: »

I voted for G-tac as I love the site, but just curious, was there a reason why the site in Longford was excluded?

Too small and no space for camping as far as I'm aware.

A.T.F

kdouglas wrote: »

30-26 now...

I say we close the poll on the 31st

Dont forget that while GTAC hosted the gathering last time, it's not known yet if Drogheda could host this event and nobody has actually spoken to john about it yet that I'm aware of.

we spoke to him yesterday about he seems game on:D

Dr_Pepper

Looks like someone from Drogheda should have been on campaigning.
GTAC is is the lead

Masada

Id love to go to Gtac again but havent been to drogheda yet,., hows the situation up there as regards camping, facilities etc?.,

gandalf

Hmmm I thought the idea of this was to tour the event around the sites. If thats the case I think Drogheda should be given the opportunity.

Casper I agree it is misleading to call it All Ireland if we are not including up North as well. I will beat Falls severely next time I see him

kdouglas

vtec wrote: »

Id love to go to Gtac again but havent been to drogheda yet,., hows the situation up there as regards camping, facilities etc?.,

Ive been to both, personally I think drogheda is a great site, and I really must get up there more often, but I think Gtac would be more suited to the whole weekend/camping thing and is a bigger site too.

Fallschirmjager

gandalf wrote: »

Hmmm I thought the idea of this was to tour the event around the sites. If thats the case I think Drogheda should be given the opportunity.

Casper I agree it is misleading to call it All Ireland if we are not including up North as well. I will beat Falls severely next time I see him

just so long as it doesnt involve your usual roll of duct tape...

ED E

kdouglas wrote: »

Ive been to both, personally I think drogheda is a great site, and I really must get up there more often, but I think Gtac would be more suited to the whole weekend/camping thing and is a bigger site too.

Retrospectively I'd have to agree. I dont think that Drogheda has the facilities for large numbers. With a bit of work it would be great, but as is dont think its suitable.

AirsoftEire.com

gandalf wrote: »

Hmmm I thought the idea of this was to tour the event around the sites. If thats the case I think Drogheda should be given the opportunity.

I couldn't agree more.
Not because i'm 30 minutes away, i don't really mind where the event is held. And G-Tac is a fantastic site, but to have it in the same place twice in a row makes no sense to me.
If we're looking to further the sport of airsoft, there should be a fair rotation of the sites. HRTA got the first birthday event, G-Tac got the first All Ireland, Drogheda should be next on the list, it would give John a fantastic financial boost and he could really do a lot with his site, which I believe has the best natural site in the country.

By rotating these events, all the different sites get a great bit of advertising, a chance to prove how good their site is and more importantly that financial bump that lets them develop their site on a par with the UK and the rest of Europe.

I think it would be incredibly unfair to have such a large event like this hosted in the same place twice in a row. Please think of the sport as a whole aswell folks, not just a fun weekend.

Steve

hairball

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

I couldn't agree more.
Not because i'm 30 minutes away, i don't really mind where the event is held. And G-Tac is a fantastic site, but to have it in the same place twice in a row makes no sense to me.
If we're looking to further the sport of airsoft, there should be a fair rotation of the sites. HRTA got the first birthday event, G-Tac got the first All Ireland, Drogheda should be next on the list, it would give John a fantastic financial boost and he could really do a lot with his site, which I believe has the best natural site in the country.

By rotating these events, all the different sites get a great bit of advertising, a chance to prove how good their site is and more importantly that financial bump that lets them develop their site on a par with the UK and the rest of Europe.

I think it would be incredibly unfair to have such a large event like this hosted in the same place twice in a row. Please think of the sport as a whole aswell folks, not just a fun weekend.

Steve

100% agree with this

FingalAirsoft

I have to say that seems to be fair and better for the sport overall.

CrazyRabbit

AirsoftEire.com wrote: »

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By rotating these events, all the different sites get a great bit of advertising, a chance to prove how good their site is and more importantly that financial bump that lets them develop their site on a par with the UK and the rest of Europe.

Steve

Just to note that HRTA didn't get any financial boost from the Birthday bash....all money was donated to charity.

AirsoftEire.com

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Just to note that HRTA didn't get any financial boost from the Birthday bash....all money was donated to charity.

Sorry if I inferred as much, wasn't intentional.

Steve

Gatling

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Just to note that HRTA didn't get any financial boost from the Birthday bash....all money was donated to charity.

just also happened to be HRTA's birthday ,hopefuly G-Tac and drogheda will also host there bithdays,

before any site holds the event shouldnt there be a list of facilities required,
1-safety and marshals
2-camping
3-full chrono facilites
4-food+water facilitys
5-space and different game types

Dr_Pepper

I agree with Gatling, however perhaps John could come on here and let us know first hand if he wants to do it and if he can facilitate it? Having never been to the site i'm a little worried since he hasn't even come on to put his site forward even for financial gain.

Either way i'll be looking forward to GTAC's event regardless of where this event is held.

Spitfire666

john stays off the forum for the most part as its full of crap and petty arguments.
A phone call to the mobile number in the drogheda thread will answer any questions. as far as i know he would have no problem hosting the event at the site.

Mrs MaxForce

Gatling wrote: »

just also happened to be HRTA's birthday ,hopefuly G-Tac and drogheda will also host there bithdays,

before any site holds the event shouldnt there be a list of facilities required,
1-safety and marshals
2-camping
3-full chrono facilites
4-food+water facilitys
5-space and different game types

1. we have the man power and and brillant saftey measures in place.
2. We have fantastic camping facilities which now includes a fire pit .
3. We have full chrono facilties.
4. We have food and water on site [Ithink mY burgers and breakfast rolls went down well}:D:D
5. we have infinate space and new game sceanerios in place for such an event as we were plannig another anyway
6.futher more we have just finished our new toilet block and have ladies and gents toilets in place and also a dedicated are for changing and fixing your equipment
7. We have as much parking facilties as need even been able to accomadate camper vans and have hook up facilties if needed

Regards Evelyn

Dr_Pepper

Spitfire666 wrote: »

A phone call to the mobile number in the drogheda thread will answer any questions. as far as i know he would have no problem hosting the event at the site.

Sweet i guess that will be Fal's job if the masses are chosing Drogheda,
Sounds like someone just got a lovely co-ordinator job!

2. We have fantastic camping facilities which now includes a fire pit

Fallschirmjager

thanks gatling....for bringing us back down to earth. bravo sir.

okay dont read this as a rant or angry but i am laying my cards out on the table. if you want a rant i have one in the last para or so marked RANT...so dont go getting all emotional, i am just stating some bare facts as i see them. feel free to disagree.

just to get the ball rolling here..we are currently not playing airsoft in the republic. offended, upset, annoyed, disgusted...excellent..now what are you going to do to change those emotions into ACTION.

i have no issue with rotation, in fact it was what i suggested the first time out but bear with me as i check my business card...one sec....

nope, nope, it doest say anywhere on it either master of the universe or dictator ...those bastards in hr never updated it...

so, you know, i thought, and to quote jack nicholson, im spitballing here, maybe we could, oh i dont know, have a democratic vote? Us meat eating, global warming is crap members of the secret right wing conspiracy, gun toting nuts are weird like that i know.

the last time there was a vote also. i suggested there would be a vote this time. im all on for rotation, i love rotation, the earth does it, solar system does it, jeeze, the water in the sink does it, hell if its good enough for them, its good enough for me, but i am also on for having players turn up. And spare me the both sites are equal, you didnt know that until the poll went up. it seems to me the best way of playing is to play where the majority want to play. your opinion may differ. if you want something different, or think you can do better...lets hear it.

i also asked on the first page for feedback from the sites, the only one to date to respond was mad_ozzie saying Cork could not deal with the numbers and bravo to him and gtac saying they were about to offer. we also got someone speaking on behalf of a site saying game on. wow, really? thats the level of commitment is it? game on...let me repeat...g a m e ...o n..thats it? fuk me, where do i sign up for that, heres the deeds to my house, hell you can have my car, you can sleep with my sister, ...let me be a part of 'game on'. for the beginners here, that last sentence is called sarcasm.

As yet no other site has confirmed they can or want to manage this. All we have here, NOW, is a thread offering options and a date in a calendar. nothing more nothing less.

Also i totally accept that running a site is tricky and tough. But where are the events for the summer? for the vast majority of players, this is the campaign season, they disappear into houses in the winter. then its just you and me and a few dozen other sad bastrds. Seems to me that would be a good way for the sites to get our hard earned cash if they step up a gear. Jeeze i am on a roll with ideas today, anyone want to pay me a consultancy ????

There is nothing to stop any one of them running a super event like red hammer from the lads and lassies across the border. In that respect asi_casper is entirely correct...we have a marker to reach. Casper is very smart chap, he knows full well, if we all went north, their would be no going back...the difference is night and day. Casper if it werent for the VCRA, dude, that guy bumping into you in the queue to register would be me.

It seems some people on page one agreed with a vote and now on page 4 dont. Sorry you cant have it both ways, there is no such thing as a vote until you dont like the outcome, okay, with the obvious exception of the EU referendums, but i am not aware of it in airsoft.

Look, here is my stance on it..we have to move on from where we are. So lead or follow or get the fuk out of the way, this isnt rocket science people- there was a window for action by the sites after the gathering to grasp the opportunity. we have to move on from a bunch of guys in a field shooting plastic at each other. Thats for every saturday or a kickabout for a laugh, but events need to be events. They need to have a story, a reason to pick a side, an interactive game. a compelling event. That is what i will part with my hard earned cash for. look at red hammer? look at the european events, look at the websites, the registration, the stories. Its not difficult -- it requires someone who wants to push. Last time i checked we have about 260 on the map at the IAA! Have you met these 260 people? what are the sites going to offer to get 260 to play? If you want 260*the daily cost, they will need something more the 2 teams lining up. if 260*daily charge doesnt give you an incentive as a site owner - may i politely suggest a different line of business.

i honestly dont give a crap where these events are located. I dont live in the arseend of nowhere, but i can see if from the back bedroom so everywhere is an hour and half for me. I want to play. I want to give you my money to play.

Finally, and i am in RANT mode now, so prepare to be offended, this is not the socialist peoples republic. I am not working all week to give my money so a site can get a 'financial bump' to build their site. They offer a service, i pay for a service....if they believe they have a great site, excellent...make a case for me to play and i will turn up...i am not paying my hard earned cash to give anyone a financial bump. I am all financial bumped out. i dont expect it from where i work, i dont see why anyone else should either. (i asked the VP i work for, for a financial bump, trust me you are getting the polite version here) The financial bump agenda was to show the sites that if they build it we will come. If they didnt understand that from 'the gathering', again pm me for my consultancy rate, they are very competitive.


so feel free to get all emotional and offended, and go ahead and rant and bitch and moan about how unfair i am, hell, go ahead and report me and get me banned but you know what, that wont make the 260 players turn up. I am no different then you, i am betting a lot of us here who truly love airsoft want to see the next evolution in the best game in the known universe...the current situation will only get us so far before we level out...we will top out in numbers unless we can build it. Also i will puke blood if someone mentions, its a new sport, its in setup or any variation of same, sorry its time to let go of that excuse.


my part in this equation is that i pay to attend an event on your site. Have aeg...will travel- with wallet. So are you going to get offended or are you going to get my money?? i know which i would pick.

Mrs MaxForce

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

thanks gatling....for bringing us back down to earth. bravo sir.

okay dont read this as a rant or angry but i am laying my cards out on the table. if you want a rant i have one in the last para or so marked RANT...so dont go getting all emotional, i am just stating some bare facts as i see them. feel free to disagree.

just to get the ball rolling here..we are currently not playing airsoft in the republic. offended, upset, annoyed, disgusted...excellent..now what are you going to do to change those emotions into ACTION.

i have no issue with rotation, in fact it was what i suggested the first time out but bear with me as i check my business card...one sec....

nope, nope, it doest say anywhere on it either master of the universe or dictator ...those bastards in hr never updated it...

so, you know, i thought, and to quote jack nicholson, im spitballing here, maybe we could, oh i dont know, have a democratic vote? Us meat eating, global warming is crap members of the secret right wing conspiracy, gun toting nuts are weird like that i know.

the last time there was a vote also. i suggested there would be a vote this time. im all on for rotation, i love rotation, the earth does it, solar system does it, jeeze, the water in the sink does it, hell if its good enough for them, its good enough for me, but i am also on for having players turn up. And spare me the both sites are equal, you didnt know that until the poll went up. it seems to me the best way of playing is to play where the majority want to play. your opinion may differ. if you want something different, or think you can do better...lets hear it.

i also asked on the first page for feedback from the sites, the only one to date to respond was mad_ozzie saying Cork could not deal with the numbers and bravo to him and gtac saying they were about to offer. we also got someone speaking on behalf of a site saying game on. wow, really? thats the level of commitment is it? game on...let me repeat...g a m e ...o n..thats it? fuk me, where do i sign up for that, heres the deeds to my house, hell you can have my car, you can sleep with my sister, ...let me be a part of 'game on'. for the beginners here, that last sentence is called sarcasm.

As yet no other site has confirmed they can or want to manage this. All we have here, NOW, is a thread offering options and a date in a calendar. nothing more nothing less.

Also i totally accept that running a site is tricky and tough. But where are the events for the summer? for the vast majority of players, this is the campaign season, they disappear into houses in the winter. then its just you and me and a few dozen other sad bastrds. Seems to me that would be a good way for the sites to get our hard earned cash if they step up a gear. Jeeze i am on a roll with ideas today, anyone want to pay me a consultancy ????

There is nothing to stop any one of them running a super event like red hammer from the lads and lassies across the border. In that respect asi_casper is entirely correct...we have a marker to reach. Casper is very smart chap, he knows full well, if we all went north, their would be no going back...the difference is night and day. Casper if it werent for the VCRA, dude, that guy bumping into you in the queue to register would be me.

It seems some people on page one agreed with a vote and now on page 4 dont. Sorry you cant have it both ways, there is no such thing as a vote until you dont like the outcome, okay, with the obvious exception of the EU referendums, but i am not aware of it in airsoft.

Look, here is my stance on it..we have to move on from where we are. So lead or follow or get the fuk out of the way, this isnt rocket science people- there was a window for action by the sites after the gathering to grasp the opportunity. we have to move on from a bunch of guys in a field shooting plastic at each other. Thats for every saturday or a kickabout for a laugh, but events need to be events. They need to have a story, a reason to pick a side, an interactive game. a compelling event. That is what i will part with my hard earned cash for. look at red hammer? look at the european events, look at the websites, the registration, the stories. Its not difficult -- it requires someone who wants to push. Last time i checked we have about 260 on the map at the IAA! Have you met these 260 people? what are the sites going to offer to get 260 to play? If you want 260*the daily cost, they will need something more the 2 teams lining up. if 260*daily charge doesnt give you an incentive as a site owner - may i politely suggest a different line of business.

i honestly dont give a crap where these events are located. I dont live in the arseend of nowhere, but i can see if from the back bedroom so everywhere is an hour and half for me. I want to play. I want to give you my money to play.

Finally, and i am in RANT mode now, so prepare to be offended, this is not the socialist peoples republic. I am not working all week to give my money so a site can get a 'financial bump' to build their site. They offer a service, i pay for a service....if they believe they have a great site, excellent...make a case for me to play and i will turn up...i am not paying my hard earned cash to give anyone a financial bump. I am all financial bumped out. i dont expect it from where i work, i dont see why anyone else should either. (i asked the VP i work for, for a financial bump, trust me you are getting the polite version here) The financial bump agenda was to show the sites that if they build it we will come. If they didnt understand that from 'the gathering', again pm me for my consultancy rate, they are very competitive.


so feel free to get all emotional and offended, and go ahead and rant and bitch and moan about how unfair i am, hell, go ahead and report me and get me banned but you know what, that wont make the 260 players turn up. I am no different then you, i am betting a lot of us here who truly love airsoft want to see the next evolution in the best game in the known universe...the current situation will only get us so far before we level out...we will top out in numbers unless we can build it. Also i will puke blood if someone mentions, its a new sport, its in setup or any variation of same, sorry its time to let go of that excuse.


my part in this equation is that i pay to attend an event on your site. Have aeg...will travel- with wallet. So are you going to get offended or are you going to get my money?? i know which i would pick.

well said falls as we have already said you beat us to it as usual we were planning another event our selves anyway and we are by no means offended we will gladly provide you with a good event i think we have a good track recorded on this and {we have no problem taking your money:D:D}

Dr_Pepper

Fal i dont know how you manage to write those excellent massive replies, i would have given up after 4 lines and just wrote "forget it"! You are 100% correct and i completely agree with all of your points.
I just wanna shoot ppl, in a safe way.

Again bravo to Fal!

Now i know you have said that this is just to show interest for site owners, and some are indeed interested but lets take your point on who is.

1. GTAC are already running a summer event so they are ahead on this.
2. Cork are too small to host a huge event
3. Drogheda are game.

Tbh i think its a great place to show interest in summer events but i'd leave it to the individual sites to run their own games.

Tigger

Spitfire666 wrote: »

john stays off the forum for the most part as its full of crap and petty arguments.
A phone call to the mobile number in the drogheda thread will answer any questions. as far as i know he would have no problem hosting the event at the site.

1. this is a poll for where would be popular its not decisive its judging popular opinion its not up to you or anyone else to demand anything if you wnat an event then organise it

2. i object to the tone of your comment re "crap" and "petty arguments" its invalid and useless

Stercus Accidit

Tigger wrote: »

1. this is a poll for where would be popular its not decisive its judging popular opinion its not up to you or anyone else to demand anything if you wnat an event then organise it

2. i object to the tone of your comment re "crap" and "petty arguments" its invalid and useless

I object to YOUR tone.

rabble rabble rabble

Masada

HOLY DOG SH*T FALLS!!

where you find the commitment to think and then post such long replies baffles me.,lol.,
fully agree with ya though,
Post of the day.,:D