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Are you really happy?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    nummnutts wrote: »
    Just make sure there's a nut case in your job who is not happy with his current predicament and only needs a little nudge to push him over the edge and burn the company down. Just in case your plan fails. ;)

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    awwh! thanks OP!

    i've had a really crappy two weeks, things just not been going well for me, and sick of being constantly broke and pennypinching... but **** it! i do love my job! i do pretty much get to pick my own hours, and days to work, and i do savour the couple of hours a day it takes to bus/walk to work, and i get to listen to some music on my mp3 player.

    you've just put it into perspective for me again! thanks!

    I don't know
    Because she says so
    He's a ****** boy
    The TV says so
    He's a junkie piece of **** because he says so

    All that first-class jet set brings me down, down, down
    All that first-class drug **** brings me down, down, down

    It's a big machine, it's a big machine
    We're all slaves to a big machine
    It's a big machine, it's a big machine
    We're all slaves to a big machine
    All tied up to a big machine
    I got houses
    Got cars
    I got a wife
    I got kids
    Got money in the bank

    Get away without borders
    I'm a slave, New World Order
    I guess I chose to be
    I guess I chose to be
    I guess I chose to be
    I guess I chose to be

    Hope I teach my son how to be a man
    Now before he hits 35
    Comic book lives don't really have any real life do they now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Elessar wrote: »
    There is no such thing as job happiness

    What about:
    Male pornstar. (most guys' dream job :p ).
    Chocolate/Beer taster
    Assassin/Hitman.
    Glamour Photographer. :)
    Travel Writer/Journo.
    F1 driver.
    Professional golfer.

    Seriously though of course job happiness exists.
    Should be just about matching personality/aptitude with job skills- some are luckier than others in knowing what they actually want though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭AngelinaJolie


    Beware the humdrum! When I first started my job I thought it was great and a stepping stone to even greater things.. mmm almost two years later, I'm still doing the same thing, day in, day out and don't get me even started about the commute! So I decided to quit.. with no other job to go to or idea about what I would do next. Felt I needed that (fairly dramatic) push. I went on the Internet to seek others who had done such a crazy thing as me, and surprise, surprise, I wasn't alone. As one put it, to do something as drastic as that, you have to have reached a level of deep, almost dark, level of dissatisfaction. Well, reader, I had. Thankfully, it has a (sort of) happy ending. My boss proposed that I work freelance for more money (although not much more) from home. Woo hoo! It's only for a short period so if I find I'm getting into the same rigmorole again I can re-evaluate. I am also going to do a web developer course at night because I feel I need new skills so I don't fall into this trap again of relying on one job and specific employer. The other trap is the stagnation of your imagination. Being in a repetitive job that stifles your imagination is a sinister cage because the longer you stay in it, the harder it is to find a way out of it. You begin to devalue yourself and eventually lose interest in doing anything but your job because you think you are too old/not qualified/lack experience/don't have financial resources to try something new. To those people who are deeply unhappy in a job , make a plan to escape. If you are young and with no commitments, just quit and devote 100% of your time to finding out what you'd really like to do. (Not go on the piss for a year in Australia, like a lot of people I know who were unhappy at work). Money will always be there (temping/dole/freelance work etc) and you will feel very positive about setting a goal and ecstatic when you achieve it. For those who have a mortgage, family etc, it will be harder but not impossible. Take a week off *sick* (Doctor will give you a note for stress) and devote your time to doing the CV, reviewing your skills, thinking about what new skills you would like to learn. If you don't have one already, get a savings account, and try to save €100 a month - cut out one luxury. I call my savings my 'escape money' because then I know I'm not totally reliant on a job.
    Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    tech77 wrote: »
    What about:
    Male pornstar. (most guys' dream job :p ).
    Chocolate/Beer taster
    Assassin/Hitman.
    Glamour Photographer. :)
    Travel Writer/Journo.
    F1 driver.
    Professional golfer.

    Seriously though of course job happiness exists.
    Should be just about matching personality/aptitude with job skills- some are luckier than others in knowing what they actually want though.
    You might get sick of those though. And I know exactly what I'd like to do, but there are just no jobs.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Doctor Denis Leary has a new book out which may help...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭RealEstateKing


    thoughtful and interesting posts Ive ever read on boards.

    The reality is this:

    In any given economy, the vast majority of jobs do not provide people with any sense of satisfaction or even interest: For every happy, fulfilled person working a job they love there are 5 people employed to clean his toilet, serve him drinks, and wash his car.

    The difference is, in our parents/grandparents day, everybody knew this: Nobody thought there was any such thing as a fulfilling career: You shot for a nice , steady job that would give you a little money, and figured that was as good as it could possibly get. The only people who were remotely fulfilled were the upper class, and you couldn't join them without being born one.

    Now: Our entire culture of advertising, marketing and PR is designed to tell us that happiness and fullfillment is possible, even though, statistically, the economy requires that most people are doing meaningless jobs in which they are merely a small cog in a much larger machine. Thus people that in the past would have been happy with their lot, are now miserable because they not a hedge fund manager, Dynamic entrepreneur/supermodel.

    T


  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Mits


    I worked for 15 years in a company. For 13 of them I was quite happy.

    The company was bought over in the 14 year. I was pushed aside, as I was very well paid, and the new company didn't value the section I was in. They promoted my junior to be my boss and left me with no work to do. I stuck this for 3 months while I planned my exit. It was an education for me to see people that I that were my friends stab you in the back or stand by idle while I was humiliated.

    That was nine years ago. Luckily I was well skilled and pretty secure at the time so I set up business on my own. It has been interesting for the last nine years and I visit offices every day and see people stuck in jobs they hate.

    But what I really value now is family life. I have dropped out of the rat race. I can't stand office politics or the boss attitude.

    At the end of the day life does not owe you anything. Most people are self centred. Luck is better than talent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    I went to college but got a bit disillusioned with the career that I got after. Too much stress too much of the time. I have since gone on to work shift with a different role. I now work 12hr shifts instead of 9-5, but now I have much more free time off. Im glad to be out of the rat race.

    My cousin is in a good high profile job, but the word is she wants to pack that in also.

    Id rather have less pay for less stress than the other way round.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    FuzzyLogic wrote: »

    Whats your life story so far, and what do you want to do?
    I'd love to hear more about real life things like this from all of yous, not just the usual AH "paris hilton's vag gets photo'd coming out of a taxi" type threads! ;)

    Just back from a road trip around the deep south of the USA (Highlight was going to a Gospel Mass!). Off to Kilimanjaro soon. Did my 1st triathalon last week. (Barely finished it), did white water rafting a few weeks ago too. Did a charity cycle for MS from Dublin to Cork with a guy I know. (just the 2 of us).

    Most of this stuff, i never had the energy or motivation to do when I was stuck in the rat race because I was so tired on my days off. Even my big loving of painting & art completely died for a few years due to all the work life stress. Thankfully thats back on track. My key is to shed any desire to buy an oversized house, a new X5, no smoking, a little drinking, shop around for the best price on everything, and focus the money into things you really want to do.

    My life plan is to try at least one new thing each year. Last year it was Surfing. Loved it. Next year I hope to do rock climbing or something similar. Its important to have an attitude that say I am williing to try anything at least once, even if it scares me! Often, these are the best stories to tell. Sometimes happiness comes from the small things. A few months ago, in the middle of winter on a freezing morning, I cycled in the dark at 730am down to Dollymount beach to watch the sun rise. Brill. In France last year, I decided go for a walk on the beach in the lashing rain and howling wind. Loved it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I'm happy, my job is crap but it pays ok and the people are nice that's all that matters. So I'm single, was married once when very young, still only 28, probably will see divorce papers soon, don't care about that, the only thing I care about are my parents, and I'm sure they want grandchildren and will be upset if they never have any. I don't like kids and never want any and my brother is even more determined never to settle down or have kids. So that's my only concern is my parents, apart from that everything is sweet, doing your own thing around the world is really the good life for me, wouldnt' do it any other way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    One of the few
    thoughtful and interesting posts Ive ever read on boards.

    The reality is this:

    In any given economy, the vast majority of jobs do not provide people with any sense of satisfaction or even interest
    Was linked to this last page just now.
    Thats very true. Most people are totally unsatisfied in their work, but their discontent is dulled by sheer force of habit.

    Thankfully, I am still young enough and my job is still interesting enough that I still enjoy it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭MJOR


    Absolutely totally completely and utterly ( i'd like to lose 2 stone though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    Nope
    Im a woman
    Therefore its my purpose in life never to be happy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    Its a hard fact of life that in order to have an enjoyable life, you need money, and to get money, you need to work.
    your only other options are:

    Win the lotto
    Large inheritance

    And neither are particularly likely. So unless you prefer drinking dutch gold out of tramps pocket and soiling yourself on a street corner, then working is one of the only ways to have an acceptable quality of life.
    Lets face it, nobody WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in an office or wherever, but its either that or be a bum clogging up the dole queue. Once you get older and realise that yes, you have to work for a living, and no, youre probably not going to win the lotto, it gets easier to resign yourself to your fate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    0ubliette wrote: »
    Lets face it, nobody WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in an office or wherever, but its either that or be a bum clogging up the dole queue. Once you get older and realise that yes, you have to work for a living, and no, youre probably not going to win the lotto, it gets easier to resign yourself to your fate.

    The biggest problem is accountability which has nothing to do with your age once you decide to be accountable for your own happiness/job satisfaction etc you don't have to leave anything to "fate".

    No one WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in the office but surely everyone would love to be paid to do something they're passionate about that they actually get up in the morning and look forward to the day ahead and there's very few people that couldn't achieve this but procrastination kicks in and silly excuses come out like "but it's too hard to get there" or "there's just no jobs in the field"

    People who do have the dream job, which I'm lucky enough to be one of them don't get their by "luck" "fate" didn't throw it into their lap's, it can sometimes take years of hard work and effort and determination but if you're not accountable and think it's only "luck" that people find the dream job then you deserve to do nothing but rot away in a dead end job IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭marco murphy


    This is the gospel according to FuzzyLogic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    Heres a twist. Does happiness come from pain. Think about it a little. The happiest time of the week for most of us is probably Friday evening when work is finished. But you may not be that happy if you had been sitting around all day off work.

    One of the happiest days of my life? Finishing the leaving cert and final college exams. Sometimes the best satisfaction is getting thru hardships like doing the brakes on the car, the driving test, whatever.

    I reckon a little hardship is needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    Nope.


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭needhelpguy


    Nope. Desperately unhappy. For a variety of reasons. But that's life.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    ntlbell wrote: »
    The biggest problem is accountability which has nothing to do with your age once you decide to be accountable for your own happiness/job satisfaction etc you don't have to leave anything to "fate".

    No one WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in the office but surely everyone would love to be paid to do something they're passionate about that they actually get up in the morning and look forward to the day ahead and there's very few people that couldn't achieve this but procrastination kicks in and silly excuses come out like "but it's too hard to get there" or "there's just no jobs in the field"

    People who do have the dream job, which I'm lucky enough to be one of them don't get their by "luck" "fate" didn't throw it into their lap's, it can sometimes take years of hard work and effort and determination but if you're not accountable and think it's only "luck" that people find the dream job then you deserve to do nothing but rot away in a dead end job IMO.

    Confuscias said that if you enjoy your job you never have to work, something like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ntlbell wrote: »
    The biggest problem is accountability which has nothing to do with your age once you decide to be accountable for your own happiness/job satisfaction etc you don't have to leave anything to "fate".

    No one WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in the office but surely everyone would love to be paid to do something they're passionate about that they actually get up in the morning and look forward to the day ahead and there's very few people that couldn't achieve this but procrastination kicks in and silly excuses come out like "but it's too hard to get there" or "there's just no jobs in the field"

    People who do have the dream job, which I'm lucky enough to be one of them don't get their by "luck" "fate" didn't throw it into their lap's, it can sometimes take years of hard work and effort and determination but if you're not accountable and think it's only "luck" that people find the dream job then you deserve to do nothing but rot away in a dead end job IMO.

    Care to share? What are ye? Pussy taster?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Care to share? What are ye? Pussy taster?

    yeah and yorema's is minging


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Up and down at the moment. Have to (try) to stay positive.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ntlbell wrote: »
    yeah and yorema's is minging

    Correction: was minging. She died 2 weeks ago you insensitive prick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Correction: was minging. She died 2 weeks ago you insensitive prick.


    insult the post not the poster..


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    ntlbell wrote: »
    insult the post not the poster..

    Sorry, your post was an insensitive prick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Sorry, your post was an insensitive prick.

    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Correction: was minging. She died 2 weeks ago you insensitive prick.
    No personal abuse. Infracted.
    ntlbell wrote: »
    No one WANTS to spend 8 hours a day in the office
    Exactly. But some people have to.
    but surely everyone would love to be paid to do something they're passionate about that they actually get up in the morning and look forward to the day ahead and there's very few people that couldn't achieve this but procrastination kicks in and silly excuses come out like "but it's too hard to get there" or "there's just no jobs in the field"
    Bollocks. Those excuses are perfectly legitimate when it comes to some fields. I busted my ass trying to get full-time work in the area I wanted. I got plenty of freelance but it wasn't full-time so I would spend days without work and was absolutely broke. I was also feeling frustrated and quite unhappy all the time but I stuck it out. Eventually though, there comes a point when you have to stop being broke and just go for something less exciting but which will at least keep the money rolling in. That's not giving up or being lazy or procrastinating, that's just being sensible. You can't survive on barely any money indefinitely. And the lack of structure, not knowing what you're gonna be doing from one day to the next, the inability to make plans, missing out on holidays and social occasions, the lack of security, benefits etc, not seeing your friends/partner/family - no career is worth that in my opinion. Getting a part-time job while freelancing isn't an option either as you have to be free all the time, otherwise if you turn down any work at all, you take a huge risk of being shoved off their radar and someone else will replace you.
    People who do have the dream job, which I'm lucky enough to be one of them don't get their by "luck" "fate" didn't throw it into their lap's, it can sometimes take years of hard work and effort and determination but if you're not accountable and think it's only "luck" that people find the dream job then you deserve to do nothing but rot away in a dead end job IMO.
    Being broke just isn't an option indefinitely though. And while a 9 to 5 might seem mundane, it has its attractions too: namely that any of the stuff I mentioned above no longer becomes an issue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Dudess, i like your new sig.


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