Terrorist type camo/rags?? + themed skirimish

little buda

ok i've played as SAS/swat and in camo, been there, done that yada yada yada........ but now i just want to be the bad guy, you know the ones who dress like a terrest/arab bandit/dictator or sueaside bommer or something (i just want to be EVEL for a change)

any one know were i can get the gear to do this!! as most places on do camo/swat only
also would anyone be up for a theamed skirmish?

think evel crazed world domanation,we have goverment hostages, out numbered by the good guys,they have to rescue them but we've got a nuke bomb or missils and they only have a set amount of time to win there mission!!

you know you wanna!!

Necron99

Hmmm

kdouglas

Not sure where you could get the type of outfit you want, but honestly you want to be careful about things like that, dressing like an arab doesn't make you a terrorist and some people may find it offensive.
Terrorists dont have to wear ethnic outfits, normal clothing would be the best for a terrorist outfit, jeans and t-shirt with a balaclave/neoprene facemask would do it. Or even just jeans and a OD army style jacket, that kind of thing.


Edit: And an AK of course.

José Alaninho

I always thought a terrorist-themed team / clan would be an interesting idea.... anyone else? Could wear shemaghs and M65's or something like that. And of course AK's all around...

TheDoc

well if you want to be a "professionaly trained " terrorist unit, youd use more advanced weaponry then an ak :P

those are now more rebel themed.

most well trained terrorist units are getting their hands on more igh tech high end equipment afaik,

im sure dex can shed light on this he is very knowledgable in the area

of who carrier what, not terrorism :P

José Alaninho

Yeah but that said, the AK is THE classic terrorist / rebel weapon. Plus it's my favourite so

gunner_twotone

Scrim net, combat shirt and a tea towel.....?:)

José Alaninho

gunner_twotone wrote: »

Scrim net, combat shirt and a tea towel.....?:)

Exactly... and a pair of big aviator sunglasses

zero19

AK for the win, balaclavas are you friend if you wanna go down the "Tango" route lol

weeder

had to laugh at the teatowl remark,


shirt,camo trousers, black vest and balaclava and an ak
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/5/56/Terrorist.jpg

best made terrorist ever :P

gunner_twotone

weeder wrote: »

had to laugh at the teatowl remark,


shirt,camo trousers, black vest and balaclava and an ak
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/5/56/Terrorist.jpg

best made terrorist ever :P

Yup! but aviator glasses like from TopGun would totally finish it off!!!:D

Stercus Accidit

Balaclava pretty much does it combined with any clothes.

I suppose it depends on the group look you are going for.

There is so much 7.62x39mm ammo going in so many countries, and stock piled in caves, any terrorist on a budget will be packing an ak47 or if he's lucky an akm, or some poorly made varient of either.

A proper mercenary group or well funded guerilla army could have anything.

The AK given their reliability and proliferation across the globe and low cost is an obvious choice though, and the iconic terrorist, freedom fighter, whatever weapon.

Spetzcong

I reckon, a mixture of Civilian clothes, some camo, and an AK or G3 and you've got a pretty convincing terrorist load out. A red or black shemagh if you're going for a middle eastern terrorist, or a balaclava if you're going for a South American/Eastern European rebel/terrorist load out.

Fiach Dubh

Any of the earlier MP5 variants would work too, many have found their way into the hands of paramilitary groups. FN FAL's are often used in Africa as well as earlier AK's. RPD's, PPSH SMG's and many WWII bolt action rifles are still used by some groups in the far East.

José Alaninho

So, joking aside, does this sound like a good idea for a team? I'm only into airsoft this past three weeks and would like to get in on something original... plus I have the shemagh

Alvin T. Grey

Spetzcong wrote: »

I reckon, a mixture of Civilian clothes, some camo, and an AK or G3 and you've got a pretty convincing terrorist load out. A red or black shemagh if you're going for a middle eastern terrorist, or a balaclava if you're going for a South American/Eastern European rebel/terrorist load out.

You've just described the SAS there too....

Puding

along with any number of other militery/intel/pmc/freedom fighters units

CrazyRabbit

AK + Civilian clothings = Modern terrorists. They look just like everyone else.

I'm a bit annoyed and disappointed at the stereotypical (or racist) "Arab = terrorist" comments here.

I was half-tempted to press the report button for these remarks:

"terrest/arab bandit/dictator "

"Scrim net, combat shirt and a tea towel.....?"

I would hope that we would be more careful with our comments.

Ample Free ...?

I don't see the point in dressing up as an arab. Apart from the fact it's a little offensive, it won't really work in the irish country side. For a terrorist look a DPM jacket, a pair of jeans and a balaclava will do the job. Don't forget were pretty good at producing terrorists here in dear old Ireland:(.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZKp9rBam8

That said, I wouldn't advise anyone to go around playing at being the IRA, it's a sensative subject and some people may not see it in the right context. Plus I personally wouldn't want to glorify the IRA even if it is just for an airsoft skirmish.

Whether you're pretending to be IRA, Al Qaeda or any other extremist group(the IAA:p), it could easily cause unnecessary offence to someone. So think before you go running around shouting Allah Aqbar or other such phrases.

TheDoc

im sure someone dressed in random atire isnt going to cause offence...

Puding

Whether you're pretending to be IRA, Al Qaeda or any other extremist group(the IAA), it could easily cause unnecessary offence to someone. So think before you go running around shouting Allah Aqbar or other such phrases.

be careful with any impersonation you try and do dressing as a real work unit e.g navy seals and using the correct badges and insignia can cause just as much offense as dressing as you stereotypical 'terrorist'

Shiva

I think we'd all rather not see something like this in one of the Irish scandal sheets.

kdouglas

a terrorist based team could not just have to emulate the look of a terrorist but the entire attitude and behaviour, i.e. fire the AK over your head sideways

nah, but seriously, terrorists act differently to trained army

iceage

+1 Thanks Shiva, I was thinking all day how I could maybe bring this up without seeming too OTT about this and getting my head bitten off for being to sensitive (some of my closest family friends are Arab Muslims) A very touchy subject, and to handled with kid gloves. Again nicely put Shiva

the_syco

You do realise that you won't be able to dress like a terrorist and carry a bag of guns in the UK, don't you, without getting "delayed" in a british prison?:D

Puding

a terrorist based team could not just have to emulate the look of a terrorist but the entire attitude and behaviour, i.e. fire the AK over your head sideways

nah, but seriously, terrorists act differently to trained army

yes people have a very specific image of a 'terrorist' normally passed around Hollywood or fox news

gunner_twotone

I do think the natural stereo type for a terrorist does point the finger at some Arab nations as the lads have already pointed out in this post. One country's freedom fighter is another country's terrorist.

Do we have to get specific when talking about using different clothing to add ( or take away ) from a role playing mission?

How about " i'll be on the team with the green and brown army clothes with Western made weapons with special equipment and boots" or " I'll be on the team with the sandells, pale loose fitting clothes and Eastern weapons and equipment whilst wearing face masks with the eyes cut out".

The link that Shiva showed is what happens when things go way to far!
And lads the way I see it, this country is the worst place for taking things way too far.(Too much time on peoples hands!)

If all parties invloved in the mission do not object and that there is no way of publicly or privately insulting or hurting peoples beleifs and its not broadcasted then its your call, I personally see no harm if the above is adhered to.

And i agree 100% with pudding "yes people have a very specific image of a 'terrorist' normally passed around Hollywood or fox news " You cant really blame people for using that image. There's not really a national army that fits that description, i suppose the better term to use would be Rebel?

At the end of the day, a bit of cop-on would make sure no bad comes of it

José Alaninho

On reflection it seems a bad idea alright; walking through rural Ireland wearing a balaclava and carrying a Kalashnikov could warrant some unwelcome attention from a certain Special Branch + ERU :eek: Not worth the risk!

Puding

well if thats the case in in trouble i spend most of my skirmishes is a balaclava with an ak but a terrorist load out was the last thing in my mind when i put it on, head protect and i like the vfc ak aims

MAD Ozzie

Blue Nike tracksuit pants, black jumper of a sport brand, tac-vest(camo) white runners
The AK47 and a towel. Oh and some goggles, and your in ready for every one to shoot at you.

Not the best idea really.

TheDoc

its a pity really that people are worried of media exposure for what to wear in airsoft.

obviously it would be fun to have a terrorist/rebel team that has hostages or whatever and have another side taking them out,

would be very interesting.

i showed this topic to a muslim pal of mine who just dropped in, and he said your a bunch of soppy girls the only people who make a fuss are the so called " representitive groups" who are only interested in getting attention.

shivas article shows that clearly.

would defo like to see a game like that played.

and if a hullaboolu did come up about it, first reminding you dont have to comment abou it, but you could jsut say,

"were playing counter strike"

Spetzcong

I think it's being a bit OTT to avoid wearing Arab headscarves when portraying a terriorst/rebel/freedom fighter load out for fear of offending our muslim bretherin. Just because you are going for a particular look i.e. that of a middle eastern terrorist doesn't mean that you believe all Arabs, or even all muslims are terrorists, in saying that I think there are far more interesting (although possibly equally as controversial) groups you could look to emulate, perhaps an eastern european rebel group.

Part of the fun of airsoft is the suspension of reality and a bit of dressing up and having a laugh, I wear british DPM, that doesn't mean that I'm in the british army, it also doesn't mean that I think all british people are soldiers, even though I wear their countries BDU and sometimes carry an SA80 (although I have gotten a bit of slagging about that).

At the end of the day its a game, we play it to have fun, the politics and ideaologies behind the uniforms we wear has little or nothing to do with the sport itself.

iceage

Correct spelling of the word Terrorist ...Terrorist.
Latest outfit?rig? ...jeep Wranger(might have been other make, hard to tell, it was on fire and parked in Airport Lobby)
Accessories required ...Rucksack/Gas Cylinder.
Attire (optional) ...Levi's/ Blue shirt.
Favoured AEG/GBB ...None, not required.

Just goes to show that there are many misconceptions about the appearance of a terrorist. I personally have no problem with peoples need to bring more realisim to the game, in fact it is only to be applauded.

I just ask that there be awareness as to the expected impressions given to the non Airsofters looking in. This runs quite closely to the bone of the earlier thread to do with a certain WWII outfit.

Its more about the negative impressions picked up by Joe Public, and I'm sure we can all recall the amount of negetivity and rowing it caused in this forum.

Iceage.

Shiva

iceage wrote: »

Its more about the negative impressions picked up by Joe Public, and I'm sure we can all recall the amount of negetivity and rowing it caused in this forum.

Agreed. I personally wouldnt be offended by any of the above, I'd say the majority of Muslims wouldnt bat an eyelid, and all in all it'd be great craic.

The problem is, as Doc pointed out, the media-hungry "representatives" of any ethnic groups will always find a reason to be appalled, disgusted, upset, shamed etc, etc.....and they'll ALWAYS find a sleazy rag to print their statements, push their agenda and generate controversy. And controversy is the one thing we should be trying to avoid.

And this has gone way off topic

JonAnderton

Without calling them terrorists, why not use the term OpFor?

Depending on the situatuion or the team/game, OpFor's can use a variety of uniforms/non uniforms and kit..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPFOR

johnboyire

i think the middle east style terrorist/whatever "look" would be great in a mil-sim game,

as it seems that a large amount of people have u.s. uniforms/loadouts, its a case of too many cowboys and not enough indians,

having a game at one of the sites with one side being terrorists/freedomfighters would be a good idea, something different and would be great for game scenarios,

c-90

theres no need to be so sensitive, would anybody here be offended if you saw airsofters in brittan prettending to be IRA? i wouldnt,and im sure it would be the same for muslims,germans or eastern europeans if airsofters here were playing al quidea,ww2 germans or eastern european terrorists. people arnt assertive enough these days.:rolleyes:

Fallschirmjager

sits back, munches away, looks for cola....

yep and we are off....

awaiting inevitable repeat of last thread on this....

budda15c

I think a terrorist loadout would be pretty cool, but if its realism your going for I think the best outfit, as iceage and many others have pointed out, would be a pair of levis and a t-shirt or even a smart shirt and a pair of trousers.. when was the last time a terrorist was seen walking down the street in any part of the western world, wearing any form of head - dress or ethnic clothing.. hell some of them were even educated in the west.. Timothy McVeigh (spelling???) was a terrorist and he wasnt of any minority, or didnt look or dress any differently to anyone else, modern terrorists dont necessarily stand out, they want to blend in and go unnoticed...

just my opinion on the subject, before it all snowballs:):):)

Shiva

budda15c wrote: »

Timothy McVeigh (spelling???) was a terrorist and he wasnt of any minority,

Yeah he was. The Mad as Sh*te minority

budda15c

Shiva wrote: »

Yeah he was. The Mad as Sh*te minority

ha ha, thats true:D:D but im not sure if thats a minority :D

JonAnderton

more reason for the OpFor term... It refers to the opposing Force, as used by US military trainers, not 'terrorists'.. I think from what I've read, people don't want to dress like terrorist's (or everyones perception of one), but insurgents and OpFors from particular conflicts...

Not only may it be insensitive to use the term 'terrorist Loadout', it may, in essence, be incorrect...

budda15c

JonAnderton wrote: »

more reason for the OpFor term... It refers to the opposing Force, as used by US military trainers, not 'terrorists'.. I think from what I've read, people don't want to dress like terrorist's, but insurgents and OpFors from particular conflicts...

Not only may it be insensitive to use the term 'terrorist Loadout', it may, in essence, be incorrect...

+1 well said

Frank the Manc

JonAnderton wrote: »

more reason for the OpFor term... It refers to the opposing Force, as used by US military trainers, not 'terrorists'.. I think from what I've read, people don't want to dress like terrorist's (or everyones perception of one), but insurgents and OpFors from particular conflicts...

Not only may it be insensitive to use the term 'terrorist Loadout', it may, in essence, be incorrect...

what about this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Milspec-Tactical-SWAT-Vest-w-Holster-COYOTE-VT-30-CB_W0QQitemZ270235464888QQihZ017QQcategoryZ36077QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

with about 6 of these attached
http://www.eirsoft.ie/store/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=61

that would hardly be incorrect or incorrect would it?

jill_valentine

I don't think people are too seriously concerned about offending people with the actual kit, but I think there's some valid concern that folks might be using the term "terrorist" inappropriately, and in a manner that implies a slightly worrying insensitivity.

Yeah, I reckon I vote for the term "OpFor" too. Brings back fond Call of Duty memories.

And I actually love the idea, leaves a load of wiggle room for the loadout.

little buda

hang on there lads and ladys, lets stop the maddness, in my first post what my idea by "arab bandits" was more like dessart pirates turn raiders.
i did'nt mean to open up a big can of worms. sorry if anyone got offened

all that aside all i wanted was to be the evel bad guy wether it be eastern looking ,cubain durg lord , italain maffia, irish gansters, german(hitler), ja-faa from stargate. yes they are all sterotypes and some people can get offened.

but come on guys did no body ever play cowboy and indains as kids, bet you did;) every one wanted to be a cowboy:pac:...:pac:...:pac:...:pac:, well this time i wanna be the indain!!:D(catch my drift)

i just wanna have a bit a crac thats all, no religion,no poilatacs. after all its just make belive

jill_valentine

Stercus Accidit

I imagine a tango would wear whatever he had access to in military gear.

I'd just wear my regular gear and throw on a regular jacket instead of the cammo one and a balaclava and maybe use my ak47 for once.
Hell I could leave on all the bdu and just use the balaclava, like a professional terrorist

Tango can be anything really, have you been tangoed? The battle cry when you are hit

Job done.

Shiva

little buda wrote: »

all that aside all i wanted was to be the evel bad guy

Louis Copeland. He can fit you out with a Bertie Ahearn suit

kdouglas

Cuban drug lord ftw! You must play with a big fat cigar in your mouth at all times though.

The Master

Scarface load out! - for that crazed drug lord look